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todbartell
01-03-2023, 01:26 AM
Some of us beat the winter blues by heading out and hunting predators.

If you shoot a coyote this winter and want to share a picture or story, feel free to add to this thread. Any info on guns, bullets, scopes, calls, setups for calling, baiting, etc, can be asked here and maybe we can help out in any ways.

Coyotes, WOLVES, lynx, bobcats, cougars...trappers post up too!

I went out on New Years Day trying for a lynx. No luck with the cats but did call in a coyote, it popped out about 125 yards up the road. I was trying to get a bit fancy and do an ammo swap from the reduced cat load to a full power load. Almost got the bolt closed when it turned and trotted back into the trees. I switched the Foxpro from Snowshoe hare to Coyote Pup distress and within a minute the coyote was right across from the caller 50 yards in front of me. Just as I got my eye in the scope, it was gone. Wind was blowing right at my back. SOB! Always sucks to blow an opportunity

Plan was to go out the next morning for an all-day hunt for Lynx again. That story will continue, but for now it's bed time

TheObserver
01-03-2023, 07:40 AM
I'm going to be trying to call Coyotes freqeuntly using a fawn call and a cottontail/rabbit distress. Mountain Lion kind of relying on snow but will try those two calls as well, won't have money for E caller this year but may try to play Mountain Lion vocalizations (I hear this is highest success for calling them in) from a speaker through phone or something.

Got question for bait what is good to use for Coyote's? And is there any places anybody knows of that will give you stuff like a grocery store meat expiring for example?

Also going against my previous thoughts, I have read from many experienced guys and trappers that you can actually bait Mountain Lion?

todbartell
02-21-2023, 11:24 AM
Plan was to go out the next morning for an all-day hunt for Lynx again. That story will continue, but for now it's bed time


Headed out for a day of lynx calling. Weather was overcast and -5c

Tried four different spots, no luck.

Around 3pm, made the fifth stand on some fresh lynx tracks and there was scat on the road too. Lots of rabbit tracks around. Set the Foxpro about 50 yards down the road with my old Jack in the Box decoy bobbing around.

Four minutes into the reee reee reeeee of a high pitch cottontail rabbit distress, I spot something step out from the ditch 150 yards ahead. A lynx! It walked out into the middle and sat down facing us, my 8 year old son was urging me to start shootin'! - After a minute or two, it crossed into the bush and was gone. My son says to me "You ruined my dream of getting a lynx!" haha - I told him to be patient, let's see what happens

https://i.imgur.com/8851NFv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tlxLQ4K.jpg

About ten minutes go by and no more cat. I switch the Foxpro to Woodpecker in distress, and my wife grabs her camera and I creep up the road to the call. I don't see anything, but the bush is thick as hell. I heard a squirrel chattering about 40 yards into the trees, I suspect the cat is somewhere in there. We slowly walk back to the Foxpro and I spot a tuft of hair coming from a cat's ear , hiding behind a pine tree just inside the trees. The lynx was watching us, then turn and look at the Foxpro/decoy, then back to us. My wife was slowly moving around trying to find a better lane for a pic. The cat would see her moving and hide it's head behind the tree, then the head would slooowly coming peeking out, then back in. Pretty funny to see. There was no better pics coming, I whispered to her that if I don't shoot this lynx, we're going to have a mighty disappointed kid. She's not a hunter. She's not afraid to get her hands dirty skinning or packing, but she doesn't like to see animals die. I told her to turn around and I took the rifle off my shoulder.

Now my son is in the truck watching all of this through the binoculars. He couldn't see the cat, but seen Mama taking pics. He said when I unslung the rifle "Ohhh they see it! Daddy's gonna WHAP IT" haha

I turned the scope down to 3x and took aim

https://i.imgur.com/8QjCW56.jpg

After the shot, the door of the truck opens and my son yells "DIDYA GIT'M?!?" - The door flies open and he's charging down the road towards me full tilt looking like he was holding back tears of joy. I knelt down and he plowed into my arms and we had a big celebratory hug. He was on cloud 9

A nice 24 pound female, will get it tanned up for the memories. And enough meat off it for a couple good dinners

todbartell
02-21-2023, 11:25 AM
https://i.imgur.com/jkbDtmj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hZXItKo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sGXSWsI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qzJfX0a.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/C7RLM6i.jpg

todbartell
02-21-2023, 12:07 PM
It's been a winter of too much working for me. I only made two coyote stands in January, and two so far in February. I've been taking my 8 year old son with me, so I haven't ventured too far from the beaten path. Trying to teach a bit of patience, not an easy job :mrgreen: He likes to carry the rifle, at least for a couple hundred yards

https://i.imgur.com/1RkKcBC.jpg

We had a bit of action on one of the last stands though

11am we are set up in the north pasture. A 15 min hike in, we see some fairly fresh coyote sign on way in. Wind is blowing pretty hard from the west. I set the foxpro about 30 yards upwind of us and we go sit down.

I began with a female lone howls. After the series of a few howls, a pair of coyotes approx 600 yards to the west fire up and begin to howl and yip. I then went with a breeding sound , then a coyote fight. I’m scanning the west, but don’t see them yet. I switch to a pup distress, and that's when I see movement at the far end of the pasture. A coyote is hard charging in, about 500y out , And a second coyote is 50y behind it! We're about at the 8 min mark into the stand.

The lead coyote barks a few times and then swings to the south into the timber when about 250 yards from us. The other coyote is standing in the pasture surveying our direction. The lead coyote was out of sight for less than a minute and I hear it bark a few times in the timber about 200Y below us. It pops out into the pasture and is heading right to left, angling to the downwind of us.

I'm usually a trigger happy coyote hunter, typically the first time they stop inside of 300 yards, I'm shootin'! But I want to try to exercise some more patience and see if I can get a coyote inside of 100 yards before I shoot. Hudson is pretty revved up, I can see him shaking pretty hard. Hudson shuffled over to keep a better look at the circling coyote, it sees him move.

The coyote slams on the brakes and turns, heading off straight away from us and into the timber. Now the second coyote follows a similar path and comes out of the timber, I had it broadside a couple times stopped at 200 yards. But when the first coyote started to bark it in the timber turned and headed that way. They're gone. Hudson is dejected and begins to cry - The hunt is ruined! haha - I told him - that's hunting. The hunt was a success even without a shot fired.

I went with a more aggressive coyote fight sound, hoping to pull them back in. The Female coyote pops out a few hundred yards downwind, trying to get our scent. She is barking and running around 400y out; the male is a ways behind her and last I see of them is quartering away into the bush about 500 yards away. I start again with female howls, then another breeding sound. Hudson tells me to put on woodpecker distress. Later I find out he was hoping a we’d call in a lynx! :cool:

I put on Woodpecker distress, and soon after spot a coyote standing at the treeline 285y away, facing us. The wind was just howling hard, my hood was flappin’ like a sky diver ready to bail out. We’re about at the 28 min mark now. The Female turns and trots away towards the male who was hanging back around 400y on the edge of the pasture. They meet up and disappear into the timber. We stuck around for another 10 mins, but no luck. Hudson was happy to get back to the truck, but halfway back home he said we should go try another spot. We went out the next morning with a friend and his daughter, but it started to blizzard just as we got set up. No action

https://i.imgur.com/I51tsWX.jpg

HarryToolips
02-21-2023, 02:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/jkbDtmj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hZXItKo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sGXSWsI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qzJfX0a.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/C7RLM6i.jpg

Priceless memories right there, congrats man! I look forward to seeing more input on this thread..

todbartell
03-07-2023, 12:36 PM
"Snow Angels"

https://i.imgur.com/7x82MNN.jpg

Daybreak had me snowshoeing into a field bordering a willow choked swamp. I started with a series of lone howls and had a bunch of coyotes approx 800 yards to the north of me howling back. Then three coyotes much closer howled from the swamp. I could see one on the edge of willow 200 yards away as I slooowwlly moved the tripod and rifle that direction. I switched to a coyote whimper/whine sound and they came in quick single file. The front coyote stopped at 108 yards and the 223 barked, sending the coyote down and flopping around. I reloaded and got on the second coyote, it was just frozen staring my way but there was a small tree blocking a shot. That's when the first coyote began to yelp - the second coyote tore off towards it and was on the wounded coyote within seconds, biting at its back end. It took a few seconds for the coyote to offer a standing shot, the 53gr Nosler sent it into an egg beater death spin. The coyote taking up the rear was long gone. Double Down! I kept calling and had a coyote come to the edge of the willow about 10 minutes later, but it seen me move the gun and it was outta there. A heavy drag back to the truck - male and female in good shape

Harvest the Land
03-07-2023, 01:27 PM
Awesome work and story. Are you hunting your own property or someone else's? Or is that crown land? Love the trick of leaning a branch against the pickup to help cut the tag

HarryToolips
03-07-2023, 03:05 PM
Right on congrats TB!

todbartell
03-07-2023, 03:52 PM
Awesome work and story. Are you hunting your own property or someone else's? Or is that crown land?

Lynx was on crown land, most of my coyote stands are on private

hunterdon
03-08-2023, 11:37 AM
Lots of work taking all the photos, write up and post the story. Appreciate it Tod. I especially like the photo of your boy next to his dad with the cat. A wall hanger for sure. Congrats!

Farmer
03-10-2023, 10:01 PM
Very nice. Doubles don't happen too often.

todbartell
03-11-2023, 01:43 PM
Very nice. Doubles don't happen too often.

Calling in a pair isn't uncommon, but getting them both dead is another :mrgreen:

as they lay in 2016, shot 10 minutes apart
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/12469573_10153397577342992_6785952477123152946_o.j pg

Called in a triple last year, killed the female and the male hung around too long barking and howling at 425 yards
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/RenderedImage_3_.jpg

And throwback thursday to 2006 when I got my first double
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/Dec_26_2006_020.jpg

todbartell
03-13-2023, 12:31 PM
Made a couple stands after work yesterday. Loving the time change!

Second stand at the 8 minute mark, I spot a pair to my 9 o'clock, parallel to my position, but not coming directly in. They got into the brush and were gone. I sat tight and about 5 minutes later I spot a coyote slip through the fence below me 115 yards and it's staring at the Foxpro. I slowly begin to get the gun on it, but the coyote seen me move and spun a 180 and was out of sight.

Another 5 minutes or so go by and it comes back in, this time I was ready and the Tikka 223 barked. A nice male, the female begun to howl from way back in the bush as I walked up to him. The 53gr Nosler Varmageddon did a good job with no hide damage. Half a mile drag back to the truck helped build an appetite for a late dinner

https://i.imgur.com/Tkk33J1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vQMBBbW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/W0Z8NKs.jpg

MRP
03-13-2023, 01:19 PM
Lucky dog,,,, you not the Coyote ;) I just can’t seem to get it together to get out. Appointments, family, flu, more family :roll: What we have here is improperly placed priority’s...

Livewire322
03-13-2023, 04:07 PM
Made a couple stands after work yesterday. Loving the time change!

Second stand at the 8 minute mark, I spot a pair to my 9 o'clock, parallel to my position, but not coming directly in. They got into the brush and were gone. I sat tight and about 5 minutes later I spot a coyote slip through the fence below me 115 yards and it's staring at the Foxpro. I slowly begin to get the gun on it, but the coyote seen me move and spun a 180 and was out of sight.

Another 5 minutes or so go by and it comes back in, this time I was ready and the Tikka 223 barked. A nice male, the female begun to howl from way back in the bush as I walked up to him. The 53gr Nosler Varmageddon did a good job with no hide damage. Half a mile drag back to the truck helped build an appetite for a late dinner

https://i.imgur.com/Tkk33J1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vQMBBbW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/W0Z8NKs.jpg


right on!

what stock is it that you’ve got on your rifle?

todbartell
03-13-2023, 05:25 PM
it's a McMillan Game Warden 2.0 (https://mcmillanusa.com/stock/game-warden-2-0/)

Livewire322
03-13-2023, 06:11 PM
it's a McMillan Game Warden 2.0 (https://mcmillanusa.com/stock/game-warden-2-0/)

Sweet, thanks!

Not to derail the thread too much, but what drove the change from the LSS to the McMillan?

TheObserver
03-13-2023, 08:31 PM
Made a couple stands after work yesterday. Loving the time change!

Second stand at the 8 minute mark, I spot a pair to my 9 o'clock, parallel to my position, but not coming directly in. They got into the brush and were gone. I sat tight and about 5 minutes later I spot a coyote slip through the fence below me 115 yards and it's staring at the Foxpro. I slowly begin to get the gun on it, but the coyote seen me move and spun a 180 and was out of sight.

Another 5 minutes or so go by and it comes back in, this time I was ready and the Tikka 223 barked. A nice male, the female begun to howl from way back in the bush as I walked up to him. The 53gr Nosler Varmageddon did a good job with no hide damage. Half a mile drag back to the truck helped build an appetite for a late dinner

https://i.imgur.com/Tkk33J1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vQMBBbW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/W0Z8NKs.jpg

Buddy right on your smokin em'!!

Arctic Lake
03-13-2023, 08:39 PM
Mr. Bartell What do you with them if I may ask ?
Arctic Lake

todbartell
03-13-2023, 10:39 PM
Sweet, thanks!

Not to derail the thread too much, but what drove the change from the LSS to the McMillan?

It just had the plastic factory CTR stock on it prior to the Game Warden 2.0. I do have a MDT LSS chassis on my kids Tikka 204, maybe that's what you're remembering


Buddy right on your smokin em'!!

thanks! Had a bit of action this evening when a pair began to bark and howl back to me early in the stand but nothing came of it. Waited them out right 'till dark but no luck


Mr. Bartell What do you with them if I may ask ?
Arctic Lake

I've been giving them to a local woman who uses them for projects. Nice to see them not go to waste. When fur prices were decent I was giving them to a trapper

here's a pic of last night's coyote that she's skinned for a rug. She's learning how to tan her own hides which is pretty cool

https://i.imgur.com/5Dmtoox.jpg

Arctic Lake
03-14-2023, 10:03 AM
Great stuff Mr.Bartell ! I thought their hides would make good furs for something !
Arctic Lake

todbartell
03-14-2023, 11:16 AM
Great stuff Mr.Bartell ! I thought their hides would make good furs for something !
Arctic Lake

Here's a bit from an article on 2023 fur values :


Fashion trends continue to drag on the fur market. Despite all of the obvious benefits of fur – its incredible warmth and durability, sustainable management, environmental friendliness and biodegradability, and the necessity to harvest animals to manage healthy populations, the animal rights movement continues to influence the industry and fashion.

Several fashion lines have announced they’ll discontinue using fur. Canada Goose – the largest buyer of coyote pelts and trendsetter in fur lined parka fashion, has gone ‘fur free’. In addition, several cities in the U.S. have passed rules banning the sale of fur products, and some states are contemplating fur bans as well. Just when we should be celebrating the benefits of wild fur, society seems to be running away from it.

Coyote – For years coyotes were the one standout in an overall poor fur market. This was driven primarily by the trendy fur lined parka hoods sold by Canada Goose and other similar coat companies. The trend appears to have finally reached its end, and demand for coyote pelts dropped off a cliff last year. That’s unfortunate because coyotes are one of the most prolific furbearing species, and humans benefit greatly from responsible, sustainable levels of coyote harvest. With the low prices to come, we may not see much harvest for fur, and animal damage control trapping will likely need to play a larger role in harvesting coyotes. The best quality Heavy western coyotes will still be in demand, but at a lower price, likely around $30-40.
With the limited demand for coyote pelts likely to be filled by western heavies, the lower quality Eastern and Southern coyotes will be priced low, with Easterns bringing in the $15-25 range and the rest around $10-15.

todbartell
03-20-2023, 10:42 AM
Made it out for a few days of predator hunting

Called a few coyotes in but no luck killing anything. Had a pack of wolves howling the one morning from a mile away, but I had prior commitments and no time to go after them. Walking away from a wolf pack, talk about painful. I went the next day, but they were long gone.

https://i.imgur.com/t6XLIpr.jpg

RICKADY
03-20-2023, 08:32 PM
Great pics and story, a lifetime memory for all.
Great looking family. Keep it up.
Great stuff right here for HBC
Thanks
Rickady

todbartell
03-28-2023, 11:45 AM
One last hunt for the season

Left the truck at daybreak and walking into my spot I see two coyotes working the edge of the willow swamp. One made the mistake of stopping to look back at 312 yards. 223 Rem / 55gr Vmax

https://i.imgur.com/ViOYrzq.jpg

HarryToolips
04-04-2023, 07:12 AM
NIce work Tod!

HarryToolips
04-04-2023, 07:24 AM
A quick story: I had zero wolf hunting experience until last year, as I spent the majority of my bush time in reg 8 where we had pretty much no wolves (at least in the areas I resided in)...so then we moved to the North Thompson, and wow is there ever a wolf prob....so back in November, I had a moose draw in one area, hunting fresh moose sign, and as my partner and I are sitting there, we can hear a cow moose call from the other side of the river...we can tell right away that it is another hunter, shortly after he starts his calling sequence, we hear 3 gun shots followed quickly by another cow moose call followed immediately by a wolf howl - we quickly deduce that wolves came into the moose calls, he took cracks at them, they ran, he then tried to stop them with another moose call, didn't work, so he tried a wolf howl - only real logical explanation...

So my partner decided to check sign elsewhere while I sat there for a short period of time before deciding that there's no point after all that noise...so, I start still hunting with the wind in my face, nice and slow, towards the river (probably a half hour after the commotion we heard)...so as I'm approaching the river nice and quietly, I hear a dog bark, sounded just like a regular dog, so I creep up to the river, and see this large wolf looking canine standing broadside, standing still for almost 2 seconds, I'm quickly thinking before I shoot it, that the other hunter is in the area, maybe it's his dog and he's playing in the river? So before I take a shot at it I thoroughly peak down the river both ways, but just then, the wolf notices me and takes off like a bat out of hell - crap! It was a wolf, sure I'm glad that I didn't shoot someone's dog and I'm glad I checked, but damn, I would've loved to have bagged my first wolf..so I proceed to the river, I could see where the wolf ran into the bush, I sit there for a couple minutes on a log pile and do a wolf howl, just then another peers out from behind a tree - I quickly mount my gun to my shoulder but it noticed my movement and quickly runs off (it's amazing how well they notice movement), I proceed to track it through the timber for 90 minutes but no luck...

This experience gave me motivation to dedicate a little time to hunting wolves from now on, even though I know odds of success are low...

HarryToolips
04-04-2023, 07:33 AM
https://i.imgur.com/UeqwPY5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KMaGCKy.jpg

Tracking it through the timber....

https://i.imgur.com/l7EODgN.jpg

todbartell
04-04-2023, 01:20 PM
right on, be thankful you even got to lay eyes on one. Good luck in your pursuits!

HarryToolips
04-04-2023, 08:31 PM
right on, be thankful you even got to lay eyes on one. Good luck in your pursuits!
Thanks! Sounds like I'm gonna need luck and a lot of it lol....

HarryToolips
04-04-2023, 08:50 PM
So my 10 year old son and I while out on our treks have found a small wolf pack in our area...unfortunately all the cam footage, as expected, has shown nocturnal movement only.. they are using powerlines, and a riverbed as their primary highway at night we discovered...

https://i.imgur.com/jY6H65r.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zSw2jT7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cSGf5gK.jpg

HarryToolips
04-04-2023, 08:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/apO4jfb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/EMDOZhq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3fagAZi.jpg

HarryToolips
04-04-2023, 08:55 PM
https://i.imgur.com/nldMt9V.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/g0G65hG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fplzXZZ.jpg

HarryToolips
04-04-2023, 09:01 PM
So around my other life and bushtime obligations, I have done one sit and calling set, after using the cam footage and tracks to determine one of the patches of thick forest where they are heading into during the day...so I figured that obviously they will not come into the open during daylight, so I sat my ass down in the old growth thickets and called for awhile, trying to mimic a calf moose in distress sound (I know it's not calving season yet, but would they really know?)...I figured next time, given the fact from my first wolf experience that they come into cow moose calls, that maybe I'd try that? I figure that a rabbit in distress may not work as a rabbit is a very small animal and wolves are always in pursuit of larger game, so they most likely wouldn't come into a call like that for such a small animal? Those in the know please provide me with your suggestions, as to calls and/or tactics I should be using, and thanks in advance...

https://i.imgur.com/6IFYSGH.jpg

todbartell
04-06-2023, 03:24 PM
the last wolf I called in came to rodent distress

HarryToolips
04-06-2023, 09:15 PM
the last wolf I called in came to rodent distress

Good to know thanks...

HarryToolips
04-26-2023, 06:22 PM
So my 10 year old son and I tracked the wolves to a different location, we setup cam on an old moose hide that we found, and sure enough, as we anticipated, they have been frequently visiting that location...to my surprise, for the first time we got the small pack on camera during the daylight hours...appears to be only 2 adults + a young one as seen in some of the pics below..so we sat one morning, and tried a rabbit in distress call with no luck...I have an idea of where to sit next in the general area, anyone with experience suggest I stick with a rabbit in distress call, or try something different? I'm even thinking that even though it is not the rut, maybe a cow moose call could bring them in? Thanks for any tips in advance...

https://i.imgur.com/pidKNQy.jpg

HarryToolips
04-26-2023, 06:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/AteBgc0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fhQU0zS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6cP5rNs.jpg

HarryToolips
04-26-2023, 06:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ctvQ0sI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/61Nq9ax.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XSfJHtu.jpg

HarryToolips
04-26-2023, 06:28 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8hHSKRA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/F3KOsXd.jpg

HarryToolips
04-26-2023, 06:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/hhxJz2Z.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ieR3T85.jpg

todbartell
04-27-2023, 09:44 AM
I'd howl for them and use a pup distress towards the end of the stand. Cool pics!

walks with deer
04-27-2023, 11:03 AM
So my 10 year old son and I tracked the wolves to a different location, we setup cam on an old moose hide that we found, and sure enough, as we anticipated, they have been frequently visiting that location...to my surprise, for the first time we got the small pack on camera during the daylight hours...appears to be only 2 adults + a young one as seen in some of the pics below..so we sat one morning, and tried a rabbit in distress call with no luck...I have an idea of where to sit next in the general area, anyone with experience suggest I stick with a rabbit in distress call, or try something different? I'm even thinking that even though it is not the rut, maybe a cow moose call could bring them in? Thanks for any tips in advance...

https://i.imgur.com/pidKNQy.jpg

Looks like a great bear spot come mid to late may.

HarryToolips
09-17-2023, 05:19 PM
Looks like a great bear spot come mid to late may.
Sorry I didn't see this reply til now: I'll have to check it out your right, if it's got lots of green up including dandelion and clover, it should be good...cheers..

HarryToolips
09-17-2023, 05:27 PM
So while elk hunting, I called in a bull (not 6 points, so not legal)...then, my partner and I heard the wolves start a howling..just prior to that, we noticed wolf scat all over the road unfortunately, we had not scouted this area all year, and the wolves did not appear to be residing in the area last year...so, after confirming that the bull wasn't legal, we quickly switched gears and hiked a ways back onto the FSR, and I caught this guy, waiting a little too long on the road...after I shot him, the pack continued howling in the thick regrowth cutblock, so my partner snuck in and almost got a shot off on another...the days after I shot this guy, the wolves either went quiet or, vacated the area...

https://i.imgur.com/KVadZ3o.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5R9xbZC.jpg

Arctic Lake
09-17-2023, 05:42 PM
What do you guys do with them wolves ? Get the hides done ? Is that expensive ?
Arctic Lake

HarryToolips
09-17-2023, 06:56 PM
What do you guys do with them wolves ? Get the hides done ? Is that expensive ?
Arctic Lake

Good question.. I've frozen the hide now, and in the winter I'm going to try to tan it..

Arctic Lake
09-20-2023, 09:35 PM
That’s a beauty of a coat on Thats wolf !
Arctic Lake
Good question.. I've frozen the hide now, and in the winter I'm going to try to tan it..

HarryToolips
12-29-2023, 11:00 PM
I'd howl for them and use a pup distress towards the end of the stand. Cool pics!Hey thanks there Tod, I just saw this reply now... so you think howling like another wolf will be potentially more effective than doing a rabbit or Fawn in distress call? Cheers..

KodiakHntr
12-30-2023, 07:37 AM
Howling is way more effective with wolves over rabbit distress.
A wolf distress howl is probably the most effective call. Seen it happen on less than effective first round hits on wolves, the others will come back to the wounded wolf repeatedly.

HarryToolips
12-30-2023, 10:07 AM
Howling is way more effective with wolves over rabbit distress. A wolf distress howl is probably the most effective call. Seen it happen on less than effective first round hits on wolves, the others will come back to the wounded wolf repeatedly.OK good to know thanks... I've howled with a pack before but I've never done a distress howl, I'll have to youtube that...

HarryToolips
01-28-2024, 03:41 PM
Question for those in the know: I pulled out the wolf hide that I had in my freezer since September...freezing it was what I thought to be my only feasible option for being able to preserve the hide, since I did not have time to deal with it back in Sept and, it was way too warm out...pulled it out to start working on it, started to flesh the hide and all the hair pulls right out of the skin....what is a better way to prevent a hide from rotting in the future, when you don't have time to deal with it immediately and/or it's too warm out? Thanks in advance..

Walking Buffalo
01-28-2024, 06:02 PM
Freeze or salt.

Get it skinned asap, then frozen or salted asap.
When freezing, don't roll it up tight at first.
The hair will insulate the skin from freezing for much longer than you might expect.

Salting is fast and quite easy.
Do it twice, then dry the hide.

Don't do both!


If you have time and a desire,
salt the hide right now before doing any more fleshing.
Then get some hide pickle and soak it.

It's possible that this might save the hide.

HarryToolips
01-28-2024, 10:36 PM
Freeze or salt.

Get it skinned asap, then frozen or salted asap.
When freezing, don't roll it up tight at first.
The hair will insulate the skin from freezing for much longer than you might expect.

Salting is fast and quite easy.
Do it twice, then dry the hide.

Don't do both!


If you have time and a desire,
salt the hide right now before doing any more fleshing.
Then get some hide pickle and soak it.

It's possible that this might save the hide.

OK thanks man, really appreciate the info, cheers..

Walking Buffalo
01-30-2024, 10:24 AM
Another option for a hide starting to slip is to not tan it.

If I really wanted the hide, even in a poorer shape, as I probably would with a your wolf....

Salt it overnight, then string it up in a wood frame to scrape, snug but not stretched tight.
Scrape it to get the heavy meat and fat off.
As it dries, keep scraping carefully to remove the remaining tissue.
Let it completely dry on the frame.

You now have a rawhide wolf with fur that probably will not fall out.

This may be best you can do now.