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silveragent
12-10-2022, 04:42 PM
Had a memorable misadventure at Boundary Bay this morning. Most of the time Boundary is dead easy, very flat, not as many hazards as other places and you can stay out of the wet most of the time. But not today.

Boundary had tides in excess of 4 meters. In my mind all I thought was "oh good, I get to use my floater dekes" but I was not prepared to see almost the entire foreshore inundated.

Where my usual pattern is to find a piece of scrub and sit right on the edge of the water knowing that the shallow nature of the bay would generally make it easy for human retrieves, I was so wrong today. Just walking in from the dyke the water at dawn was already up to the thighs. My two partners for the day had forged on ahead as I had arrived later and I met them part way off the dyke coming in the opposite direction. "What happened?" Answer: Friend #1 one had stepped in a bad hole and went down. Despite being a two season veteran of Boundary he had stepped into one of the bigger channels and was now soaked.

While waiting for him to extricate himself, my other friend and I discussed a new plan seeing as there was basically little ground that was out of the water and none of us had brought stools. Plus, as I looked around for other hunters' lights, I became aware that my one year old TideWe waders had begun to seep water into the my left leg. And feeling that water made me realize the water was damn cold. Last week the ground was frozen and this week it was still frigid.

Finally getting within earshot of my struggling friend, we decided to try to tough it out. Seeing as EVERYWHERE was the water's edge at this point, we chose a section close to a channel we knew was productive and began throwing dekes out. However, since neither of us had brought any kind of standing blind we were basically deciding the day was a lark and we would see what we could get. Thankfully, two of us had brought sleds so at least our equipment was going to be dry.

As we were throwing out decoys, we realized that for those who did brave the driving rain and the wind, the conditions were very good for ducks. So although at this point I was nursing a cold left foot, I was beginning to feel it might be worth the suffering. Indeed, ducks began circling and the group that had left just before us had already begun shooting. Soon enough, we were ready to join in not knowing that it would shortly become a real misadventure.

For one thing. even though ducks were sailing in, standing out in the open was surely an advertisement for them to stay away. Remarkably, singles and doubles were still willing to play and we got of our initial shots while doing our best to pretend to be immobile trees. However, incredibly, between three decent shots, we began missing what looked like easy opportunities. Cupping ducks flapped away unscathed. Fat mallards seemed to be armored after being peppered. Could it be we were actually that bad? Was the 10k wind throwing off the shot?

Still, it wasn't long until one of us brought down what looked like a wigeon. However, even though the shot was well within 20y, the dying fowl managed to flutter a 100y away. As our friend waded off to find that one, the neighbouring group brought down a drake that was over their heads and it also sailed off well away. We waved them over and indicated where it landed but they seemed unwilling to come. Shouting for our friend to look for two ducks, we turned back to opportunities in front of us.

That opportunity turned out to be a flight of at least fifteen snow geese. Appearing as dots out of the haze of the rain and darkness, the two of us who weren't occupied realized the gift approaching our way and yelled at each other to get ready. Sure enough, those dots got bigger and they joyfully were rowing through the air directly for our position. Telling my friend "wait wait wait", we were able to wait until they were point blank before we started shooting. As the flight scattered, I saw that we had brought down three, stone dead.

However, that was the start of the end - at least for me. Although the birds fell what looked like only 25y away, it might as well have been on the moon. To my dismay I saw that the two that I had downed fell into the fast moving channel that had earlier sucked in my friend at the start of the morning.

At this point, my left leg was already full of water. Thinking it couldn't get that much worse, I decided I had to retrieve the two snowies and secured my shotgun in my sled and left it to go a'wading.

Many of you who have done this know how perilous human retrieval can be in deep water. You don't know where the holes are, you can only search your memory for where the channel might deepen, where a small stream you could hop over in low tide is now a potential malestrom. Gingerly, now, I strode into waist deep water that increased in height with every step.

I was able to retrieve the first snowie without much issue, thankfully dead and only mobile because of the incoming tide. The second one, however, was now being taken up by an eddy and was now quickly being driven out of legal bounds. In retrospect, I should have just let it go and then circled around from the dyke side hoping to mark where it went. But unwilling to let it go when it seemed tantalizingly within reach, I took an extra few steps too far and sunk down over my chest and over my face.

Coming up sputtering and tasting brackish water, I could feel the frigid water rush into my waders and briefly felt panic strike me. Looking around I realized even going down that deep I was still close enough to either shore that IF I could swim, I was in no real danger. But at that moment I remember thinking: is any bird worth it? And I decided - YES. So even with my waders by now icy and filled, I threw myself at the remaining snow goose one-handed while clutching the other one close. And swimming awkwardly, I was able to kick my way to the bird and secured it.

It was then after getting my footing again, I realized I had ended my day in a miserable fashion. Struggling up onto the opposite bank I could see my friend and his bird well within shouting distance but with the same channel that had sucked in both of us at different times seeming like an impossible gulf. And standing up, I could feel the freeze now paralyzing my legs and shortly the rest of my body.

Shivering in the cold, I knew immediately my day was over and that my chances of making my way back to the our original spot were not good. I shouted to my friends that I was headed back and plead with them to take my gear back with with them while I tried to find a safe way for me to get back to the dyke. They agreed but I was then faced with a twenty minute odyssey to get back to solid ground.

As I held the two snow geese like twin newborns in both arms, I slogged, fell, staggered through the swamp with my only goal to get back to my car. Logs floated past, seagulls mocked my progress and I could still hear my friends and other hunters bringing down ducks. Meanwhile, with each step it felt like ice had formed blocks around my feet and my core was rapidly become a solid ice block. I must have dropped those snowies twice over.

Finally making it to the dyke, I looked back and I couldn't believe how short a distance it seemed. But I was damned cold and I needed to get dry. Back with my car, I was grateful to have prepared for such an event by having an extra set of clothes. Peeling myself out of the waders full of icy water was another challenge and I was sorely temped to cut them right off my legs. The heat from my old car took its sweet time blowing and I was exhausted besides. Once out of the soggy clothes, I walked barefoot on the pavement and it seemed much warmer than the clothes I was in. Not so long after, having gotten into my dry clothes, I went back to the dyke to see that my friends had also pulled up stakes and were almost back.

After gathering at our cars, thankful that we had only suffered that much, I gratefully gifted one of my geese to the friend who dragged back my sled back to shore. Then after saying goodbyes I filled my body with hot tea until I could control my shivering enough to drive safely home.

Elkaddict
12-10-2022, 05:45 PM
An adventure indeed. Happy to hear you are safe and sound. Reading of waders chuck full of water in water over your head gives me the willies.

MichelD
12-10-2022, 05:57 PM
I thought today could have been good too, but a different physical misadventure has sidelined me with an injured shoulder. Have to take it easy. It's my left shoulder, but I can't carry a backpack full of dekes right now. Don't know if I ever will again.

But when I hunt at Boundary Bay I try to stick to areas where there is nothing but hard-packed bottom in front of me.

I'm sure happy you got out of there alive. That kind of scenario is my worst nightmare. I was worried about something similar happeneing to me this spring at the Pitt River wading out towards a dead goose where the bottom dropped sharply off from nice and flat to steep, slippery and deep.

ACB
12-10-2022, 06:37 PM
If you're going to continue having adventures like this it might be an idea to invest in an inflatable PFD that you can wear outside of your camo. Or a retriever.

ACB
12-10-2022, 06:40 PM
I glad to hear you had a good outcome albeit some what soggy.

VLD43
12-10-2022, 08:16 PM
A couple of other suggestions to consider. Use neoprene waders and a walking stick. I have been in over my head once with neoprene waders and an inflatable vest. Floated like a cork and stayed dry and warm.

walks with deer
12-10-2022, 08:56 PM
Wading belt.. sounds dangerous you must be younger thats very dangerous for a goose
. A fishing rod can work with a big hook too.

silveragent
12-10-2022, 11:29 PM
I'm not younger but I may be stupider.

I never thought of wearing my PFD while shooting from the shore but seeing as the foreshore of Boundary had turned into an extension of the ocean, that might have been a good idea.

BowsUp
12-11-2022, 12:25 PM
2x the wading belt. I've gone down twice and the second time the belt made a difference in how much water I took on.

silveragent
12-11-2022, 12:46 PM
Good thoughts about the wading belt. When I get my new waders in I will definitely use one.

Arctic Lake
12-11-2022, 01:07 PM
I don’t duck hunt as I always thought it best to have a bird dog for retrieving so would limit loss of birds , again though I’m not a duck hunter . You fellas know more !

The wader issue is a bit scary as I can’t imagine trying to move around in deep water with your chest waders full . Yikes !
The belt is a good idea I would think .
Glad you made it out safely !
Arctic Lake

Marc
12-11-2022, 06:36 PM
Glad you made it out OK. The tides were definitely higher than it should have been yesterday. Where I hunt we had and Easterly wind pushing the tide up even higher. It was only supposed to be 7km/h winds with gust to 30km/h but there was whitecaps.

MB_Boy
12-12-2022, 11:50 AM
Back when I used to hunt waterfowl in MB we would always carry a knife on our belt for the usual purposes but also so you had easy access to it in the event you had to cut yourself out of your waders in a situation like yours.

Ron.C
12-12-2022, 12:46 PM
OP, glad you are ok and thanks for sharing. You are not the first or last waterfowler that has went in. The tidal area I hunt is full of small channels that can be upwards of 10' deep at high tide and are often impossible to see if you are not familiar with the area.

Last summer, I did test and submerged myself in my neoprene waders without my wading belt. I was actually quite boyant. When I added my pfd, I floated no problem. Next I tried to swim. Reality set in fast. There was no way I could swim far as I weighed a ton with my waders full of water. I became fatigued VERY quickly.

I figured swimming would be a problem so I brought my layout boat kayak paddle with me. I was able to move myself much easier laying on my back with the paddle, but still very difficult. And in if I were in anything less than ideal conditions, wouldn't be doing this to long either. And trying to drag myself out of the water into a boat by myself would be slim. So I now make sure I am very closer to shore when paddling out to my spots.

I speant 25 years in the Navy and we did a pile of sea survival/cold water emersion training. Hypothermia is the enemy!!!

Ourea
12-12-2022, 01:55 PM
Good share and great writing.

guntech
12-12-2022, 05:22 PM
When I used to hunt ducks it was always big fat green heads east of Calgary... never in waders... I can't imagine the discomfort of waders in water and going under. I always thought I was suffering when it was snowing and the ducks were plentiful.

Ourea
12-12-2022, 08:04 PM
Have had a few water adventures in my day. Steelheading up in the Charlottes I ended up going for a float down the Mamin River while trying to cross.... for 500 meters and managed to grab onto a snag before i was about to go down a canyon. Quite the experience. Water can be your best friend yet your worst enemy.

Dutch
12-13-2022, 01:13 AM
Great story SA and a great learning exp.as well.I have been in a few of those sloughs as the tide comes in and you lose positioning of where they are.My eye opener was back in the early 80's where I used to hunt burns bog almost exclusively until they made it a park.The peat was mined out with large high pressure water hoses which turned it to a type of slurry where it was pumped in pipes back to the plant which dried it through old paper machines and shipped it for packaging.Once the peat was gone it left big ponds of water which the ducks would flock to.We had plank walkways built to most of these ponds to walk to as well as permanent blinds and decoys.The only problem is there were several places where the walkway crossed over some of the water sloughs left over from old pipelines and this was not really water but a soupy peaty mixture .Coming back after night flight with a dead flashlight I missed a turn and the plank that crossed over the slough and fell face first into this mess with my gun in hand and hip waders on.Tried to swim nope it was like moving in a slurry ,gun was gone down there to,the bank was only feet away but harder I struggled deeper I sank and there was nothing on the bank to grab onto, luckily I had 85 lbs. of black lab with me who naturally had stopped and not followed me in.I called him repeatedly until he inched his way off the bank,bit by bit ,then got my hand out and grabbed a chunk of neck fur.As soon as I grabbed him he backed up and he managed to pull me out slowly like a boot stuck in the mud. Crawled up the bank and rested but boy was that close ,so little water in the slurry didn't fill my boots but it was an ordeal, saved by old Sam.Next morning rake in hand went fishing in that slop for my old 870 wondering if I had emptied the shells and if not hoping the safety was on .Got it back ok was empty ,and marked the edge of that peat slough with some orange cones ,just in case LESSON LEARNED.Cheers D

silveragent
12-13-2022, 09:26 AM
Dutch, that's a hair raising story as well

MRP
12-13-2022, 10:53 AM
Well from this story and others over the years I think you lower mainland duck-goose hunters are the ((toughest)) in the province. I’ve never really hunted ducks, but there’s no way I’m going out in the conditions you dedicate shot-slingers go out in. I do brave a bit of rain and wind for moose but not too much, guess I’m a wimp. I’ll try to suck it up and do better in the future. Keep em stores coming.

Beachcomber
12-13-2022, 11:33 AM
OP, glad you are ok and thanks for sharing. You are not the first or last waterfowler that has went in. The tidal area I hunt is full of small channels that can be upwards of 10' deep at high tide and are often impossible to see if you are not familiar with the area.

Last summer, I did test and submerged myself in my neoprene waders without my wading belt. I was actually quite boyant. When I added my pfd, I floated no problem. Next I tried to swim. Reality set in fast. There was no way I could swim far as I weighed a ton with my waders full of water. I became fatigued VERY quickly.

I figured swimming would be a problem so I brought my layout boat kayak paddle with me. I was able to move myself much easier laying on my back with the paddle, but still very difficult. And in if I were in anything less than ideal conditions, wouldn't be doing this to long either. And trying to drag myself out of the water into a boat by myself would be slim. So I now make sure I am very closer to shore when paddling out to my spots.

I speant 25 years in the Navy and we did a pile of sea survival/cold water emersion training. Hypothermia is the enemy!!!

Interesting immersion experiment. I hunt the Fraser marsh and never wade without my pfd on and one hand on my punt when picking up decoys or birds (Unless I am certain of the ground). I haven't used a wading belt for ages but will start on reading this. I also have a small stainless dive knife in a plastic screw-on sheath on my the opposite wader strap from my shooting shoulder in the event of a situation such as you describe if I need to get out of my waders. I haven't tested this yet, but know getting my feet out of my boots would not be easy so it is the best idea I have seen (stole it from a friend who has hunted there for ~60 years and had more than his share of mishaps).

Glad the OP is alright.

silveragent
12-13-2022, 01:51 PM
Well from this story and others over the years I think you lower mainland duck-goose hunters are the ((toughest)) in the province. I’ve never really hunted ducks, but there’s no way I’m going out in the conditions you dedicate shot-slingers go out in. I do brave a bit of rain and wind for moose but not too much, guess I’m a wimp. I’ll try to suck it up and do better in the future. Keep em stores coming.

I've seen videos and read about east coasters who practice body booting which is sitting in the surf as high as they can get to hit diver ducks. So not only are they prepared to get deep in the water, that is actually their strategy! I'm not sure I would want to risk that unless I had a full drysuit on.

Speaking of that my wife reminded me I have a neoprene surfsuit that might have helped during my misadventure. I will dig it up

MRP
12-13-2022, 03:36 PM
I've seen videos and read about east coasters who practice body booting which is sitting in the surf as high as they can get to hit diver ducks. So not only are they prepared to get deep in the water, that is actually their strategy! I'm not sure I would want to risk that unless I had a full drysuit on.

Speaking of that my wife reminded me I have a neoprene surfsuit that might have helped during my misadventure. I will dig it up
Yup sounds like a good idea. I’ve just put another log in the stove and moved the chair a little closer.

tigger
12-15-2022, 01:44 PM
Great write up Silveragent, glad you made it out safe. I've hunted Brunswick on a low tide, but I wouldn't feel comfortable without being able to see those channels during a higher tide. I hunt solo so not hard to imagine miss-stepping and finding yourself in a world of trouble. I'm assuming the wadding belt folks are referring to is the same as a waist belt on waders?

silveragent
12-16-2022, 07:01 AM
Yea most waders come with a belt that you use to tighten around your waist so that water doesn't just rush right into your legs. I mean it won't totally prevent it but it slows it down I guess