Tsilhqotin’in Nation

[Dench]

Has anyone been around there? Just looking at the regs and wondering if they have it marked so you know where the boundary is.

[Otto1946]

Is that the tribe whose "chief" threatened BC Wildfire staff with "bullets" if they came on their territory to fight fires about 3-4 years ago and then this same character was awarded the Order of Canada, last spring............

Well, I spent over 20 years fighting fire in the BCFS, Alberta FS and private companies. I will only say that his attitude is exactly what is exacerbating serious racism in BC and Canada, in general. If, this happens, bloodshed will follow........

[REMINGTON JIM]

Atta Boy Otto :wink: RJ

[TheObserver]

Is that the tribe whose "chief" threatened BC Wildfire staff with "bullets" if they came on their territory to fight fires about 3-4 years ago and then this same character was awarded the Order of Canada, last spring............

Well, I spent over 20 years fighting fire in the BCFS, Alberta FS and private companies. I will only say that his attitude is exactly what is exacerbating serious racism in BC and Canada, in general. If, this happens, bloodshed will follow........

All a part of the bigger picture, division of the masses comes to mind. Every little bit helps for those who are really weilding power.

[Dench]

Is that the tribe whose "chief" threatened BC Wildfire staff with "bullets" if they came on their territory to fight fires about 3-4 years ago and then this same character was awarded the Order of Canada, last spring............

Well, I spent over 20 years fighting fire in the BCFS, Alberta FS and private companies. I will only say that his attitude is exactly what is exacerbating serious racism in BC and Canada, in general. If, this happens, bloodshed will follow........

No idea. There are a few bands up there that share the area, I think. So does anyone know if the area is marked lol.

[Otto1946]

How sadly true, and the entire BC legislature apparently supported the UNDRIP bulls**t as Horgan boasted of on yesterday's Global News.......what a pathetic disgrace.

[Otto1946]

I recognise tribes and bands, BUT, to quote the great John George Diefenbaker, "Canada,....one country....your country and my country"........

[Dench]

Guys, anyone actually have an answer?

[whitlers]

Was in the general area this October. You can get a map online showing the boundary. Would be best to stay out of the Nemaiah Valley and I wouldn't venture too far down the Taseko Lake Rd.

[Harvest the Land]

Think its on page 42 in the regs. Here is a more detailed map Map_DeclaredTitleArea_2018.pdf (tsilhqotin.ca) (https://www.tsilhqotin.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Map_DeclaredTitleArea_2018.pdf)

[Arctic Lake]

I’m not sure about this topic but I think S.Rupp knows quite a bit about that Valley
Arctic Lake
Was in the general area this October. You can get a map online showing the boundary. Would be best to stay out of the Nemaiah Valley and I wouldn't venture too far down the Taseko Lake Rd.

[Dench]

Thanks everyone.

[Arctic Lake]

I again am not sure but are the First Peoples not a bit hostile in that valley ?
Arctic Lake

[REMINGTON JIM]

Who draws the boundary lines on the MAP ? :roll:RJ

[CranePete]

Uncle Joe is the mouthpiece west of the Fraser that has asked anyone without a status card to stay away. Maps mean nothing out there. I wouldn’t leave a camp or vehicle unattended anywhere out there. Hopefully Mr Rupp will chime in.

[Arctic Lake]

Very sad indeed what happens that as a resident of this province that you paid your taxes to , your dues , contributed to the provinces society, and you can’t go wander , hike , fish , camp ,and hunt there .
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[REMINGTON JIM]

Uncle Joe is the mouthpiece west of the Fraser that has asked anyone without a status card to stay away. Maps mean nothing out there. I wouldn’t leave a camp or vehicle unattended anywhere out there. Hopefully Mr Rupp will chime in.

101% agree ! The map question was DO they just get to pick what CROWN land they want ? :-? RJ

[180grainer]

Guys, anyone actually have an answer?
Go to the Band office and ask for a map.

[dakoda62]

Uncle Joe is the mouthpiece west of the Fraser that has asked anyone without a status card to stay away. Maps mean nothing out there. I wouldn’t leave a camp or vehicle unattended anywhere out there. Hopefully Mr Rupp will chime in.
Sheep creek bridge should be removed lol

[Dench]

Go to the Band office and ask for a map.

I ended up phoning the chief. He was polite and the map is the one harvest the land shared. Thanks everyone

[REMINGTON JIM]

Sheep creek bridge should be removed lol

At least have a Toll $$ put on it ! :-) RJ

[Arctic Lake]

That’s a lot of nice topography !
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[Redthies]

At least have a Toll $$ put on it ! :-) RJ

Like “give back 100 acres to the crown per crossing”?

[HappyJack]

I ended up phoning the chief. He was polite and the map is the one harvest the land shared. Thanks everyone

Did you by chance happen to ask him for permission to hunt on the land they hold legal title too?

[Dench]

Did you by chance happen to ask him for permission to hunt on the land they hold legal title too?

Yeah, he said to come up whenever


***I didn't speak with Joe it was another chief

[srthomas75]

We hunted in the Nemiah vallley about 8-10 years ago for a moose leh. [ We made an error on the leh code and won the 5-4 draw ] We stayed at a rec site at Big Lake. We weren't successful on the hunt but weren't bothered by any locals or anyone either. Drove around a bunch and checked out lots of the area.

[whitlers]

The problem with that area is they have gated and blocked FSR's outside their territory. Plenty of other area to hunt though. Just need to make sure your camp is secure.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Can someone describe the Difference between TERRITORY vs RESERVATION for me please ? RJ

[Dench]

Can someone describe the Difference between TERRITORY vs RESERVATION for me please ? RJ

Territory is where natives lived before and reserves are where they were put.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Territory is where natives lived before and reserves are where they were put.

Territory could be ANYWHERE then and ANY Crown land ? :frown: RJ

[180grainer]

Yeah, he said to come up whenever


***I didn't speak with Joe it was another chief
What was his name?

[Dench]

Territory could be ANYWHERE then and ANY Crown land ? :frown: RJ[/QUOTE
I honestly don't know

[QUOTE=180grainer;2372515]What was his name?
I can't remember lol

[elker]

First Nation population has exceeded 1 million. this country's welfare wagon is getting bigger and bigger.

[HappyJack]

We hunted in the Nemiah vallley about 8-10 years ago for a moose leh. [ We made an error on the leh code and won the 5-4 draw ] We stayed at a rec site at Big Lake. We weren't successful on the hunt but weren't bothered by any locals or anyone either. Drove around a bunch and checked out lots of the area.

We stayed there before, the locals were very friendly.

[CranePete]

Big Lake is a loooong way from Nemiah. Jimmy Lulua is the chief in Nemiah. He’s a very strong advocate, but not quite as caustic as Joe. At least Jimmy resides in Nemiah, Joe has chosen a more comfortable abode near 150 Mile.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Big Lake is a loooong way from Nemiah. Jimmy Lulua is the chief in Nemiah. He’s a very strong advocate, but not quite as caustic as Joe. At least Jimmy resides in Nemiah, Joe has chosen a more comfortable abode near 150 Mile.

Pete there is a Big Lake there too I was there in the summer . VERY nice rec site too ! RJ

[180grainer]

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[180grainer]

i can't remember lol
lol lol lol Reference to my question at post 31

[srthomas75]

Big Lake is a loooong way from Nemiah.

there is a big lake in the middle of nemiah. I think there a several named " Big Lake" lakes in the province.

[CranePete]

[QUOTE=REMINGTON JIM;2372689]Pete there is a Big Lake there too I was there in the summer . VERY nice rec site too ! RJ[/QUOTE
i stand corrected, thanks. Thought you were at Chaunigan. My bad.

[Stump]

I ventured as far as Konni lake by the old church. A fellow stopped to say it’s not a good idea to go any further best turn around. No problem we went to Fletcher lake and a great time was had fishing.

[Dench]

I ventured as far as Konni lake by the old church. A fellow stopped to say it’s not a good idea to go any further best turn around. No problem we went to Fletcher lake and a great time was had fishing.

Was it a native that said that?

[Otto1946]

My family has lived in BC for about 153 years and in Canada, since the Alexander Expedition, 1629. I AM A NATIVE CANADIAN and the various Aboriginal groups are NO MORE "native" than I am, end of f**king story!!!

That loudmouth "chief" and his ilk should be gaoled for their violent rhetoric, not awarded the OC!!!

[Dench]

My family has lived in BC for about 153 years and in Canada, since the Alexander Expedition, 1629. I AM A NATIVE CANADIAN and the various Aboriginal groups are NO MORE "native" than I am, end of f**king story!!!

That loudmouth "chief" and his ilk should be gaoled for their violent rhetoric, not awarded the OC!!!

This post just dismantled the indian act.

[REMINGTON JIM]

My family has lived in BC for about 153 years and in Canada, since the Alexander Expedition, 1629. I AM A NATIVE CANADIAN and the various Aboriginal groups are NO MORE "native" than I am, end of f**king story!!!

That loudmouth "chief" and his ilk should be gaoled for their violent rhetoric, not awarded the OC!!!

Atta Boy Dewey ! RJ

[REMINGTON JIM]

[QUOTE=REMINGTON JIM;2372689]Pete there is a Big Lake there too I was there in the summer . VERY nice rec site too ! RJ[/QUOTE
i stand corrected, thanks. Thought you were at Chaunigan. My bad.

I Was there too ! Not far from each other and Big Lake being the first stop as you drive right by it to get to the rest of the area ! . RJ