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Dakota Creek
04-12-2022, 01:16 PM
Other than for the almighty $$$$ …. Why would someone screw up two very good hunting breeds by purposely breeding this cross ….. see latest classified ad for “Griffockers”???

mastercaster
04-12-2022, 03:07 PM
Maybe just an accident but that should have been mentioned so eye brows aren't being raised as to why these two breeds were thrown together. Generally responsible breeders sell their pups with non breeding contracts that can/may be rescinded if the sire/dam in question scores a certain number of points on a hunt test and has passed the various health checks (hips, elbows, eyes, etc.).

Dakota Creek
04-12-2022, 04:11 PM
Maybe just an accident but that should have been mentioned so eye brows aren't being raised as to why these two breeds were thrown together.

I did think that, and agree you would think that would have been mentioned in the ad ….. but if it was a oops litter, they certainly wouldn’t be asking $1,500 for a pup.

Redthies
04-12-2022, 09:31 PM
Are they WPG x Cocker mix? That would be interesting. Not necessarily in a good way. I am not (much of) a dog snob, but I far prefer to know what my dogs likely temperament will be.

mastercaster
04-13-2022, 07:12 AM
Are they WPG x Cocker mix? That would be interesting. Not necessarily in a good way. I am not (much of) a dog snob, but I far prefer to know what my dogs likely temperament will be.

The pups are a 3 way mix is what I got our of it,,,,,1/2 griff, 1/4 cocker, and a 1/4 springer, something he called a sprocker. Mixing pointers with flushers,,,,not good, IMHO.

Since this is the case with this breeding, shouldn't the mix be called a grisprocker? lol

wideopenthrottle
04-13-2022, 07:21 AM
sad when dogs are being bred to come up with catchy sounding names..how bout a St Berhuahua

ACB
04-14-2022, 10:10 AM
Thats a lot of money for a mongrel. If I was going to buy a hunting breed puppy for a substantial amount money I think I would want to see that the sire and dam came out of proven lines and showed well themselves. But then again, there can be duds out of proven lines as well, myself I'v lucky so far with any dog that I'v had.

mastercaster
04-14-2022, 01:30 PM
Thats a lot of money for a mongrel. If I was going to buy a hunting breed puppy for a substantial amount money I think I would want to see that the sire and dam came out of proven lines and showed well themselves. But then again, there can be duds out of proven lines as well, myself I'v lucky so far with any dog that I'v had.

Considering that you can buy griffs out of the States for $1200-1500 from proven lines I'd say you're right. Paid $1400 up here in Canada pre-Covid for mine and mine came from a third time breeding from the same parents so I could check on past litter's in terms of confirmation, behavior, and hunting abilities.

mastercaster
04-20-2022, 11:00 AM
sad when dogs are being bred to come up with catchy sounding names..how bout a St Berhuahua

https://i.imgur.com/nzS9B29.jpg

Dutch
04-20-2022, 03:33 PM
Had a shitzu once think he thought he was a bull terrier ..:)

Spy
04-20-2022, 05:39 PM
Best hunting dog I ever had was a Dalmatian Weimaraner cross just saying ;-)

srupp
04-20-2022, 06:26 PM
hmm only had Labs but when looking i found a LOT of new mixes i had not heard of before..chatted with a couple of those selling these new lines of dogs..all explanaitions seemed to indeed suggest they were oooopses..non planned...and yet demanded the same $$$ as purebred from known lineages...total BS.
HAD a friend that had a small dog with short nose..like a pug..bought into a new shorter nosed breed..damn things..he has 3..cant breathe when even sitting still..no thought no planning..outcome was cruel on the dog..an entire lifetime struggling to breathe..constant trips to vet for upper airway infections/blockages....
glad we stuck with purebred Lab...well known couch hound lol
steven