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Sitkaspruce
03-10-2022, 07:09 PM
We are being screwed over folks and it is only going to get worse.

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022FLNRO0009-000316

We can all thanks the present NDP Government and their decision on UNDRIP.

Mark my words, within 5 years, we will buying our tags, if allowed, from the FN. Just look at the above release and the words around "Sheltering". We will be come third class citizens when it comes to our wildlife!!

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whitlers
03-10-2022, 07:19 PM
Sad times in this province. There is a very good possibility we will lose what we love. All in the name of the Untied Nations and the NDP. Pisses me off to no end.

Bugle M In
03-10-2022, 07:29 PM
Yup, NDP, Horgan and even worse, Heyman!
Farnsworth ain't far behind either.

Hopefully we get someone in that actually puts hunters and hunting rights "into stone".
Not based on race.

One person I know who is trying to set up a new hunting coalition was slightly upset with me when privately I told him we dont
need more hunting associations etc.
ITs not that we don't need them, we do.
But we need hunters in Politics....period!
The clubs would help support them in initiatives certainly.
But we need people in the right "seats" that are actually driving the bus.
Rather than folks telling them how to drive the bus.
They see to be deaf these days!!???

scoutlt1
03-10-2022, 07:34 PM
This is a really good part....

Sheltering
This change enables the minister and First Nations to enter into legally binding agreements on “sheltering.” Sheltering is the practice of a host First Nation permitting a guest First Nation to harvest wildlife within the host’s territory. Permission typically comes with conditions (such as who may hunt what species, when, where and by what means). When a First Nation enters into these agreements with the minister, it will bring provincial laws into alignment with the existing Indigenous laws. This change is expected to improve certainty around data collection and sharing of information on wildlife.


I will never buy a "tag" or "license" from any kind of Indian (race based) "authority". Ever.
It's all a sad and embarrassing joke if it wasn't so serious.

358mag
03-10-2022, 08:13 PM
This is a really good part....

Sheltering
This change enables the minister and First Nations to enter into legally binding agreements on “sheltering.” Sheltering is the practice of a host First Nation permitting a guest First Nation to harvest wildlife within the host’s territory. Permission typically comes with conditions (such as who may hunt what species, when, where and by what means). When a First Nation enters into these agreements with the minister, it will bring provincial laws into alignment with the existing Indigenous laws. This change is expected to improve certainty around data collection and sharing of information on wildlife.




I will never buy a "tag" or "license" from any kind of Indian (race based) "authority". Ever.
It's all a sad and embarrassing joke if it wasn't so serious.

In other words us "Whity's" the hard working middle class tax payers are totally FAKED
Thanks to all you that voted for this current NDP government .

high horse Hal
03-10-2022, 08:27 PM
Not sure whether to blame the province or faux pm and his apologist sunny ways signing on to UNDRIP
Once that was done, the courts started the crash course , any party would have to follow, no?

scoutlt1
03-10-2022, 08:49 PM
Not sure whether to blame the province or faux pm and his apologist sunny ways signing on to UNDRIP
Once that was done, the courts started the crash course , any party would have to follow, no?

I don't know about others, but as far as I'm concerned they are all to blame. Including the "citizens" that are ok with it in any way and are/were ok with voting in these p***ks.

The UN and it's policies mean nothing to me.

If there is a party that I can vote for that feels the same way then they may get my vote. If there aren't any, then I just won't vote and deal with shit how I see fit.

F*** the province, f*** JT, f*** the UN.

Don't like it? F*** you too.

Ohwildwon
03-10-2022, 09:38 PM
I will always be a hunter, and I will always go hunting, regardless

Harvest the Land
03-10-2022, 10:18 PM
4.9% of the population will dictate wildlife mgt policy for 100% of the population. Horgan wasn't joking when he said last month that UNDRIP would be at the core of everything his government does. Last week the socialists also announced that Indigenous Studies will be mandatory requirement for high school kids beginning next school year. I agree Sitka the future of hunting and fishing for non natives in BC looks grim, and shit's getting real faster than many of us probably ever imagined. Time to call a realtor!

Bill 14, the Wildlife Amendment Act, 2022, brings in a requirement to consider Indigenous knowledge and establishes a process by which the Province can align its laws with protocol hunting agreements and traditions that have long existed. These changes complement the non-derogation provision recently added to the Interpretation Act. This ensures that the Wildlife Act does not negatively impact Aboriginal constitutional and treaty rights.

“Operationalizing the rights of Indigenous Peoples in British Columbia requires shifts in legislation, policy and practice," said Grand Chief Stewart Phillip, president of the Union of BC Indian Chiefs. "The Wildlife Act amendments are one positive step, while much work is needed to steward and protect species and habitat for Indigenous Peoples. Moving forward, the government must continue to review the act in collaboration with Indigenous Peoples to ensure it is aligned with the United Nations Declaration on the Right of Indigenous Peoples and as part of its commitment to implement the Together for Wildlife Strategy."

Vortex hunter
03-10-2022, 11:21 PM
I don't know about others, but as far as I'm concerned they are all to blame. Including the "citizens" that are ok with it in any way and are/were ok with voting in these p***ks.

The UN and it's policies mean nothing to me.

If there is a party that I can vote for that feels the same way then they may get my vote. If there aren't any, then I just won't vote and deal with shit how I see fit.

F*** the province, f*** JT, f*** the UN.

Don't like it? F*** you too.


110% Couldn't agree with you more..Vortex

Bean
03-10-2022, 11:51 PM
Well we have a chance soon to turf Horgan. Will always hunt regardless of these BS decisions based on feeling or politics.

wildcatter
03-11-2022, 12:01 AM
I don't know about others, but as far as I'm concerned they are all to blame. Including the "citizens" that are ok with it in any way and are/were ok with voting in these p***ks.

The UN and it's policies mean nothing to me.

If there is a party that I can vote for that feels the same way then they may get my vote. If there aren't any, then I just won't vote and deal with shit how I see fit.

F*** the province, f*** JT, f*** the UN.

Don't like it? F*** you too.

Well said Martin, most of us feel the same way.

For the "keepers of the land" traitor Horgan implemented UNDRIP https://www.bcdripa.org/
As it stands you can't do any mining, exploration, fishing, hunting, building of infrastructure,
pipelines, logging and a whole bunch of things without the Indians approval.
2.5-3% of the population dictates the rest and all the land and natural resources belong to them.

But will see, they can push only so much before hell comes calling!

BULLNUTTS
03-11-2022, 01:45 AM
True dat braa!! I can't count the people who have said the same thing!! We're Just goin! To hell with everything! Not sure I would wanna be standing in front of that train when she blows!! And the train IS coming as said and we are on the tracks....... Lock n Load������ the circus is coming������

koothunter
03-11-2022, 08:49 AM
Guess it's about time to finish the walk in cooler and get the home butcher shop improved a little. Gonna have to get sneaky about getting my meat.

Redthies
03-12-2022, 08:49 AM
As I’ve said before, if you all “identify” as FN (like I do), you can’t legally be told you are not.

moosinaround
03-12-2022, 09:37 AM
I will always be a hunter, and I will always go hunting, regardless

Yup, thats how I feed my family too!!