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boxhitch
05-03-2021, 10:03 AM
I'll just put this here instead of in politics, so more get p.o.ed

"They say permits issued by the provincial government hold no authority unless permission is first received from hereditary chiefs

“We do not play with our fish… we’ve come to understand that catch and release will cause higher fatality,” they said in the statement.

The watershed includes, Bulkley River, Kitwanga River, Gitsegukla River, Kispiox River, Babine River and the Nass River in the Nass watershed.".

https://www.interior-news.com/news/gitxsan-nation-extends-ban-for-non-indigenous-fishing-permit-holders-across-their-territory/?mc_cid=9f3ca12f0f&mc_eid=a1e77eff14

Razor84
05-03-2021, 10:11 AM
netting them for resale, then dumping thousands of pounds of rotten fish into the bush is ok tho

Bugle M In
05-03-2021, 10:27 AM
I spoke with a Bio last season.
When it comes to the closure on the Skeena, it is "purely political/FN related issue"!
Not a science based one.

There was no real reason for it to be closed, at least not due to science.
Purely FN BS, and something that we need to be fully aware of as this disease could spread.

Harvest the Land
05-03-2021, 10:35 AM
Not surprising in the least. the Gitxsan have always been one of the most hostile FN's towards "colonizers". Confiscating (stealing) the boats and gear of anglers' who don't obey their non legally binding order would be a criminal offense and I guarantee many guys will not allow that to happen without a fight.

This could get really ugly

wildcatter
05-03-2021, 11:51 AM
Not surprising in the least. the Gitxsan have always been one of the most hostile FN's towards "colonizers". Confiscating (stealing) the boats and gear of anglers' who don't obey their non legally binding order would be a criminal offense and I guarantee many guys will not allow that to happen without a fight.

This could get really ugly

This is an example why I argued wit Rob Chipman in the Crown Land Given To Now Be FN Land post.
Yes this will get ugly as the FN get more and more emboldened and militant.
Thanks for UN/UNDRIP, gutless politicians and greedy lawyers.

Weatherby Fan
05-03-2021, 11:56 AM
this is just the tip of the iceberg as its going to get stupid, really stupid.......like it isn't already..............pretty soon tax paying citizens in BC/Canada will have no rights to anything except to pay taxes to support........all this Bull $hit.

One day it will come to a head probably not in my lifetime.

Surrey Boy
05-03-2021, 12:02 PM
It's a race war. Stop being politically correct and fight for your own team.

adriaticum
05-03-2021, 12:06 PM
Bring a shotgun fishing.
Lots of gbears up that way

Bubbacanuck
05-03-2021, 12:29 PM
This crap is getting way out of control...at some point this will turn bad for everyone

Bugle M In
05-03-2021, 12:47 PM
This is an example why I argued wit Rob Chipman in the Crown Land Given To Now Be FN Land post.
Yes this will get ugly as the FN get more and more emboldened and militant.
Thanks for UN/UNDRIP, gutless politicians and greedy lawyers.
Its not that Rob is making the rules.
Yes, your feelings are legit as to what can happen or rather what appears to be starting to happen.
Its not that Rob is trying to downplay your concerns, or even mine.
He is just letting us know "how the recent rules are" and why this is happening.

Is no surprise the FN are pushing the envelope, but it is very disappointing and concerning.
But, its going to be "our " government that is either going to "step in" and shut this BS down by the FN or keep playing dumb
or without care to "our" impact if they allow this to carry on.

Eventually, the word spreads, rural towns will get impacted by this sort of stuff.
Look at QC Lodge last summer when the FN shut them down.
The stuff that the FN are starting to do "IS" starting to impact rural towns in the interior and all along the coast!
As this continues on, and folks start to "not make a living", they will let the government know that "it isnt working"!
And eventually another party will see the "open door", and take up the charge to "correct it".

You can only be a whining, bitching, spoiled neighbor so long, until you piss off more than your neighbor,
and start pissing off the entire community!
One community at a time will start to want to see changes, and that is on the political scale.

My suggestion, don't support any FN campsites or recreation areas with your money that they may be owners of.
Don't spend a dime at any of their casinos or gas stations or any other FN owned business.

And i will go out on a limb to say, there are some businesses who do hire FN, to keep the peace.
Well, they better watch out too, as sooner or later "that wont be enough for them".
And i sure as hell wont spend a dime at an FN fishing lodge or for one of their shit salmon that has sat in the sun all day
and carried around in a plastic garbage bag!!

Hmmm....so much respect for their fish that it sits in a garbage bag!
Thats says everything to me!

wildcatter
05-03-2021, 04:04 PM
Its not that Rob is making the rules.
Yes, your feelings are legit as to what can happen or rather what appears to be starting to happen.
Its not that Rob is trying to downplay your concerns, or even mine.
He is just letting us know "how the recent rules are" and why this is happening.

Is no surprise the FN are pushing the envelope, but it is very disappointing and concerning.
But, its going to be "our " government that is either going to "step in" and shut this BS down by the FN or keep playing dumb
or without care to "our" impact if they allow this to carry on.

Eventually, the word spreads, rural towns will get impacted by this sort of stuff.
Look at QC Lodge last summer when the FN shut them down.
The stuff that the FN are starting to do "IS" starting to impact rural towns in the interior and all along the coast!
As this continues on, and folks start to "not make a living", they will let the government know that "it isnt working"!
And eventually another party will see the "open door", and take up the charge to "correct it".

You can only be a whining, bitching, spoiled neighbor so long, until you piss off more than your neighbor,
and start pissing off the entire community!
One community at a time will start to want to see changes, and that is on the political scale.

My suggestion, don't support any FN campsites or recreation areas with your money that they may be owners of.
Don't spend a dime at any of their casinos or gas stations or any other FN owned business.

And i will go out on a limb to say, there are some businesses who do hire FN, to keep the peace.
Well, they better watch out too, as sooner or later "that wont be enough for them".
And i sure as hell wont spend a dime at an FN fishing lodge or for one of their shit salmon that has sat in the sun all day
and carried around in a plastic garbage bag!!

Hmmm....so much respect for their fish that it sits in a garbage bag!
Thats says everything to me!

I know Rob is not making the rules, but pointing them out.
My beef is the government that either sit idly or side with FN.
Laws, rules can be changed or amended to include something that is pertinent
to the current situation and hopefully taking into account of the peoples wish.
However the likliness of changes that would protect non native rights is pretty slim.
To say it plain and simple is: they can't have all the land in BC!
The more people realize what's going on and the more they get pissed of, the better chance for a fair outcome.

BeerMan
05-03-2021, 05:04 PM
I have been on this program for years.My suggestion, don't support any FN campsites or recreation areas with your money that they may be owners of.
Don't spend a dime at any of their casinos or gas stations or any other FN owned business.

RyoTHC
05-03-2021, 05:15 PM
I have been on this program for years.My suggestion, don't support any FN campsites or recreation areas with your money that they may be owners of.
Don't spend a dime at any of their casinos or gas stations or any other FN owned business.

bingo! Who do you think is funding this bullshit? US. Every damn idiot that supports them buying their illegal fish, or their tax free weed or their sketchy at best casinos.

didn’t the African Americans use this principal to prop up their own and change their lives up and out of the ghetto? They kept every dollar in their own community, only bought services from their people..

BeerMan
05-03-2021, 05:27 PM
^^^^ I quoted Bugle M In on that post. His post is #10. I could not agree more.

Surrey Boy
05-03-2021, 06:04 PM
bingo! Who do you think is funding this bullshit? US. Every damn idiot that supports them buying their illegal fish, or their tax free weed or their sketchy at best casinos.

didn’t the African Americans use this principal to prop up their own and change their lives up and out of the ghetto? They kept every dollar in their own community, only bought services from their people..

Prolific reproduction helps.

Any family-oriented folks here?

Or just Charlie Sheen X Elmer Fudd.

FlyingHigh
05-09-2021, 09:49 AM
Is there any salmon fishing left available to non-indian people in BC now? Starting to look like we'll have to take our tourism money to Alaska instead if we want to catch salmon.