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Rob Chipman
10-08-2020, 12:01 PM
FYI

As most of you know, whenever there is an election BCWF develops some questions for the parties running. BCWF is non-partisan and asks the same questions of everyone.

The party line response sometimes differs from what you might hear from your particular MLA, but sometimes your MLA will simply repeat the party line. It's good to know if and when that is happening (because, as we all know, you should be contacting your MLAs right now and busting their chops to get more funding and better management of wildlife).

Anyway...here is the Liberal party line response, along with the questions.

1. FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT

In B.C., we now have endangered steelhead, endangered caribou, record low salmon and
moose populations, and in parts of the province, declining sheep and mule deer populations.
Dwindling fish and wildlife values mean increased social conflict and a loss of food security and
tourism-related jobs, all while leaving today's British Columbians wondering if they will leave
this province better than they found it.


Fish and Wildlife Questions: What do you feel is the most critical factor negatively
impacting B.C.'s fish and wildlife and their habitats? If you are elected, what legislative
changes or initiatives will you commit to in order to reverse the declining trends for
B.C.'s fish and wildlife, and how do you envision that change making a positive impact?
Please include costing and timeline for your plan.

BC Liberals Response:


British Columbia’s landscape represents an incredibly diverse range of species and habitats –
some of the most incredible in our country and the world. BC Liberals believe our natural
environment must be protected for future generations – we owe it to our kids to make sure
that we leave things in better shape than we found them. The challenges of today are
significant – from invasive species, conservation challenges, to the protection of wetlands and
more - but they can be met head on and the BC Liberals will do just that.
Unlike John Horgan’s NDP Government that cut the Ministry of Environment’s budget by $4.6
million, a BC Liberal Government led by Andrew Wilkinson will act to enhance fish and wildlife
populations, for the benefit of all British Columbians who love and depend on our great
outdoors for jobs and recreation. We look forward to sharing more details on these actions
with the release of our full platform.

2. HABITAT AND WATER SUSTAINABILITY


The BCWF, in partnership with the Watershed Security Coalition, is calling for increased
investment in watershed security in British Columbia. Population growth, increased
development and a warming climate are putting pressure on watersheds in every region of B.C.
The solution is to invest in wetland and streambank restoration, invasive species removal,
indigenous and local government watershed monitoring programs, and fish and wildlife
stewardship. We need to ensure we have sufficient water left in rivers to support salmonids'
migration to their spawning grounds in regions most impacted by climate change.
Habitat and Water Sustainability Questions: Will you establish a B.C. Watershed Security
Fund to fund local and regionally-led clean water initiatives and create good, sustainable,
local jobs for British Columbians of all ages and backgrounds in watershed restoration,
monitoring, technology, training and education? Please provide costing and timeline for
your water security plan.


(Jurisdiction: MoE, FLNRORD, Ministry of Health)


BC Liberals Response:
Clean water is a vital to maintaining a healthy province and rebuilding B.C.’s economy. BC
Liberals have a long and deep commitment to promoting healthy watersheds, sustainable
ecosystems, and thriving communities supported by responsible resource development. A BC
Liberal government led by Andrew Wilkinson will continue to build on that record. As a cabinet
minister, Andrew Wilkinson helped pass B.C.’s Water Sustainability Act and supported
hundreds of millions of funding for initiatives to protect B.C.’s water. His commitment to
promoting healthy watersheds as a cabinet minister will only continue as Premier.
British Columbians across our province depend on our natural environment for not only their
recreation, but also their jobs. Over the coming days, we will be releasing our platform that will
outline how we intend to prioritize the protection of B.C’s watersheds and the local jobs and
economies that depend on them . As we adapt to our new normal during the pandemic, we
must take strong action to protect and enhance our fish and wildlife populations – and the BC
Liberals pledge to do that.

3. PARKS AND PUBLIC ACCESS


The BCWF is calling for the government to increase funding for B.C. parks and to build new
campsites with a B.C. resident priority to catch up with the current heavy demand. Additional
funding is required to hire more park rangers and conservation officers. Public access to public
resources such as fish, wildlife, public roads, and campsites is a growing British Columbia issue.
Parks and Access Questions: Will you increase funding for B.C. parks and Conservation
Officer Service and implement resident-priority booking processes? If so, how much will
you allocate for these budgets, when and how many more campsites will be built? Is
public access to public resources and activities such as fishing, hunting, camping and
hiking important to you? How will you protect British Columbians access to crown land
and address attempts to restrict public access to B.C. parks and wild spaces


(Jurisdiction: MoE)


BC Liberals Response:


British Columbia is world renowned for its unique and diverse environmental features. An
essential part of that is B.C.’s vast parks and protected areas system. As British Columbians
learned this summer during the pandemic – our parks and protected areas are critically
important as we navigate our new normal and stay close to home.
Earlier this John Horgan’s NDP Budget cut the funding of the Ministry of Environment and
Climate Change Strategy by $4.6 million, including significant cuts to the Environmental
Protection, Environmental Sustainability, BC Parks, and Conservative Officer Services. By
comparison, Andrew Wilkinson supported millions of dollars of investment for campsite and
park expansion. Under the BC Liberals, 84 new parks were established as well 156 new
conservancies, two new ecological reserves, and 13 new protected areas. We also expanded
more than 75 parks, six ecological reserves, and four protected areas.
Parks, protected areas and public access to the backcountry will be prioritized under BC Liberal
government. We’re excited to share our commitments with you soon.

Rob Chipman
10-08-2020, 12:02 PM
4. FISH AND AQUACULTURE


The BCWF joins with other sports fishing and conservation groups to push for full
implementation of the Cohen Commission's recommendations. The aquaculture industry needs
to be transitioned to closed containment where possible.
BCWF members and partners have been doing salmon enhancement for years. Citizen
scientists and Indigenous communities know what needs to be done to help the fish both as
smolts and returning adults. We need to engage all parties to work on sensible solutions to
issues. The community fishers need to have a place at the table when discussions are held
between governments. There are roughly 9,000 jobs created by community fishing service
providers.


Fish Management Questions: With the collapse of salmon populations happening across
B.C., how do you anticipate the rebuilding of these populations? How will you ensure the
recovery of the endangered steelhead? Will you ensure aquaculture moves to closed
containment? Please provide the resources you will dedicate and a timeline for all three
questions.


(Jurisdiction: Ministry of Agriculture)


BC Liberals Response:


As a cabinet minister, Andrew voted to provide over $12 million to the Pacific Salmon
Foundation, a non-profit citizens group dedicated to the conservation and restoration of wild
Pacific salmon and their natural habitats in BC and the Yukon. He also voted to provide about
$3 million per year to the Freshwater Fisheries Society of BC.
In July, the BC Liberal Steelhead Caucus once again called on the John Horgan and the NDP to
take action to protect the endangered species. For three and a half years, John Horgan and the
NDP have ignored the issue. While recent federal funding is important – steelhead are a
provincial, not federal responsibility and the NDP’s failure to take real action could result in the
loss of this incredible species.


If the BC Liberals form government, we will take action on salmon and steelhead conservation
in order to protect these vital and iconic species. For more details, please see our platform
soon.

5. PREDATOR MANAGEMENT


Many mountain caribou populations are at a record low and moose populations are in
significant decline in parts of B.C. Science has shown anthropogenic change as the leading cause,
as wolf predation has become a major source of mortality.


The growing grizzly bear population has become a major concern in many of the northern rural
and First Nations communities recently. There have been close-call bear encounters and
attacks including human and livestock losses. While this scenario may not be important to most
of the population that lives in the southern part of the province, it is of serious concern to the
northern portion.


Question: Do you support predator management as a part of sustainable science-based
wildlife management?


Response:


Any time there is a close call with a predator, that is very concerning to us. As a party, we are
committed to protecting both people and wildlife.
A BC Liberal government led by Andrew will take the necessary steps to protect people and
species if endangered by predators with a responsible, thoughtful, science-based approach.
Predator management has to be part of a prudent and holistic approach to species and
ecosystem management.





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If I run across responses from other parties I will post those as well.

Ron.C
10-08-2020, 12:23 PM
thanks for sharing Rob

Surrey Boy
10-08-2020, 12:47 PM
Will the BC Liberals pull out of UNDRIP?

Rob Chipman
10-08-2020, 01:39 PM
I feel you, Surrey Boy, but look outside your window. You live in Canada. You know what that means.

UNDRIP is here to stay until the majority of every other western liberal democracy rejects it. Our politicians aren't exactly known for blazing brave independent paths, regardless of whether it makes sense or not. (I mean, seriously - The CCP is holding 2 Canadians hostage and the Ontario legislature was actually planning to fly the PRC flag on PRC independence day because....um....yeah, no, UNDRIP is here to stay).

We do what we can. As St. Augustine said - limit yourself to set yourself free. We probably need to limit our political goals in order to actually accomplish a few. JMHO.

Call your MLAs.

Tell them funding, science and predator control matter. It's a small thing compared to UNDRIP, but we might grow from a little lump of coal into a genuine burr under someone's saddle (Live in hope, right?)

Surrey Boy
10-08-2020, 05:16 PM
I try to live in hope, and thanks for the encouragement.

I remember Gordon Campbell's landslide after campaigning against special interest groups. It was unifying and energizing, even though it was essentially a hate campaign. He shot many sacred cows.

Agitation is a fertile effort, and cultivating broad antipathy towards opponents is effective in democracies.

Thanks for your work, and I'll continue to agitate.

Walking Buffalo
10-10-2020, 01:39 PM
Does the BC Liberals consider Hunting and Fishing to be unalienable essential rights for ALL BC citizens?

IronNoggin
10-11-2020, 01:13 PM
Does the BC Liberals consider Hunting and Fishing to be unalienable essential rights for ALL BC citizens?

Given their current leader is a Hunter and firearm owner, methinks that is about as close as we can expect from a politico at this point.

As opposed to those who obvious intent and desire is to give away access / ownership of all lands and all resources on them (including hunting and fishing) to one particular group. Oh, and are also covertly backing True Dummy's play on gun bans...

Hmmmmm...

Nog

338win mag
10-11-2020, 07:47 PM
I feel you, Surrey Boy, but look outside your window. You live in Canada. You know what that means.

UNDRIP is here to stay until the majority of every other western liberal democracy rejects it. Our politicians aren't exactly known for blazing brave independent paths, regardless of whether it makes sense or not. (I mean, seriously - The CCP is holding 2 Canadians hostage and the Ontario legislature was actually planning to fly the PRC flag on PRC independence day because....um....yeah, no, UNDRIP is here to stay).

We do what we can. As St. Augustine said - limit yourself to set yourself free. We probably need to limit our political goals in order to actually accomplish a few. JMHO.

Call your MLAs.

Tell them funding, science and predator control matter. It's a small thing compared to UNDRIP, but we might grow from a little lump of coal into a genuine burr under someone's saddle (Live in hope, right?)
A puzzling statement....No western democracy has accepted UNDRIP, nor have they rejected it.... not the USA, Canada thus far has not accepted it.
Its a BC thing, just wondering why you think otherwise?

HarryToolips
10-12-2020, 08:02 AM
Thanks for posting Rob....they need to start addressing our wildlife & habitat concerns by putting all hunting & tag revenue back into wildlife & habitat...before the previous election I had that discussion with Steve Thompson and it sounded like that was the direction that they were planning on taking....

Rob Chipman
10-12-2020, 07:05 PM
338win mag:

"Its a BC thing, just wondering why you think otherwise?"

Just looking out my back door. Nothing more. Canada (in various editions) has called for UNDRIP to be accepted. BC has started giving it legislative force. I think that will continue.

Really, what you're asking me is why I think that with three spades on the flop that it's likely going to be a flush that's going to win. I could be wrong, but I think that's what's going to happen. I also think it's going to be very challenging and problematic (diplomatic enough?)

338win mag
10-12-2020, 07:49 PM
338win mag:

"Its a BC thing, just wondering why you think otherwise?"

Just looking out my back door. Nothing more. Canada (in various editions) has called for UNDRIP to be accepted. BC has started giving it legislative force. I think that will continue.

Really, what you're asking me is why I think that with three spades on the flop that it's likely going to be a flush that's going to win. I could be wrong, but I think that's what's going to happen. I also think it's going to be very challenging and problematic (diplomatic enough?)
Don't be so quick to fold em, its not done yet. There is alot of stuff going on, small potatoes BC is just that, small potatoes.

One shit storm will... shit can the entire thing. Personally, I don't think its going to go, but, if it doe's then get ready for some serious shit, real serious shit.

Rob Chipman
10-14-2020, 11:48 AM
"Don't be so quick to fold em"

You could be right.

As I've mentioned to some other people, look at the Mik'maw scrap in Nova Scotia over the lobster.

There's no question they have a treaty right from some king in England from 270 some odd years ago. I understand "honour of the crown" and everything, but I think that king was some kind of German engaged in a fight with some French king as well as being worried about some uppity colonists getting even more uppity. OK, fine.

The governments of today, federally and provincially, have talked a good talk, and they've reaped the benefits at the ballot box (mom and apple pie will do that, right?) *but they haven't delivered*.

Reconciliation (which we need, simply because the conflict exists and conflicts need to be resolved, one way or another, eventually) hasn't actually been pursued in concrete ways. Ask FNs what they think of Horgan or Trudeau. Many FN people are completely unhappy with both of them.

The result?

We see non-FN fishermen burning vans and boats in Nova Scotia and the RCMP seems hesitant to step in. We've already seen the latter here in BC. How long until we see violence erupt?

That would be your shit storm that would shit can the entire thing. I'm pretty sure the shit storm will come. I think I'm more confident than you that we will see violence here, and it will be between different parts of the people rather than one group of people vs the government (as we've seen in the past in BC already).

I *hope* we don't see it, but I think we will.

338win mag
10-16-2020, 04:55 AM
"Don't be so quick to fold em"

You could be right.

As I've mentioned to some other people, look at the Mik'maw scrap in Nova Scotia over the lobster.

There's no question they have a treaty right from some king in England from 270 some odd years ago. I understand "honour of the crown" and everything, but I think that king was some kind of German engaged in a fight with some French king as well as being worried about some uppity colonists getting even more uppity. OK, fine.

The governments of today, federally and provincially, have talked a good talk, and they've reaped the benefits at the ballot box (mom and apple pie will do that, right?) *but they haven't delivered*.

Reconciliation (which we need, simply because the conflict exists and conflicts need to be resolved, one way or another, eventually) hasn't actually been pursued in concrete ways. Ask FNs what they think of Horgan or Trudeau. Many FN people are completely unhappy with both of them.

The result?

We see non-FN fishermen burning vans and boats in Nova Scotia and the RCMP seems hesitant to step in. We've already seen the latter here in BC. How long until we see violence erupt?

That would be your shit storm that would shit can the entire thing. I'm pretty sure the shit storm will come. I think I'm more confident than you that we will see violence here, and it will be between different parts of the people rather than one group of people vs the government (as we've seen in the past in BC already).

I *hope* we don't see it, but I think we will.
I believe you are correct.

Walking Buffalo
10-17-2020, 08:45 AM
Given their current leader is a Hunter and firearm owner, methinks that is about as close as we can expect from a politico at this point.

As opposed to those who obvious intent and desire is to give away access / ownership of all lands and all resources on them (including hunting and fishing) to one particular group. Oh, and are also covertly backing True Dummy's play on gun bans...

Hmmmmm...

Nog


Focus Nog....

The question should be posed to the Liberals.
Get them to commit in writing.

The NDP opened the door to having Hunting and Fishing for ALL be defined as essential.

I'm concerned that "you all" in BC just are not seeing the legal value in this label.
Don't let this big one get away.

Rob Chipman
10-17-2020, 06:39 PM
Focus Nog....



The NDP opened the door to having Hunting and Fishing for ALL be defined as essential.

I'm concerned that "you all" in BC just are not seeing the legal value in this label.
Don't let this big one get away.


That is an excellent observation. Sometimes pointing out the obvious takes a really smart dude. We've been ignoring that development. Again, excellent observation.

Walking Buffalo
10-17-2020, 10:04 PM
That is an excellent observation. Sometimes pointing out the obvious takes a really smart dude. We've been ignoring that development. Again, excellent observation.

Yay!!!!

Glad you heard me this time Rob.

The eighth or ninth time is the charm. :mrgreen:

Seriously, the BCWF and all the other groups should be contacting their lawyers to dig and pour the cement.

IronNoggin
10-18-2020, 11:07 AM
Focus Nog....

The question should be posed to the Liberals.
Get them to commit in writing.

The NDP opened the door to having Hunting and Fishing for ALL be defined as essential.

I'm concerned that "you all" in BC just are not seeing the legal value in this label.
Don't let this big one get away.

Woah! Now I see what you were / are getting at.
Guess sometimes I live a little too close to my name on here...

Now that is something I think we should be rolling with, and will do what I can to drive the message to where it may help the most...

Cheers & Thanks!
Nog - The Sometimes Blind...

Rob Chipman
10-18-2020, 12:38 PM
"the eighth or ninth time is the charm. :mrgreen:"


"Guess sometimes I live a little too close to my name on here..."


K, there's two good morning chuckles at once... :-)