AZ Elk......Massive

[tinhorse]

This is from another site, non hunting related..

"Some pics coming in from AZ...I dont personally know this hunter and prob wouldnt share something I didnt shoot...but this is darn close to a record. Unofficial 471. Unit 27 Governors tag."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-TFStPwLmuO0zSL7kc7mzkFNcqzbsCfP/view?usp=drivesdk

[porthunter]

Heres a video of the hunt;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf0JXZqzsyE

[The Hermit]

great bull. excellent shot but somehow, for me, a guy that admits he isn't a hunter killing a majestic bull like that at nearly 1000 yards just doesn't do it justice. Like he implies it is killing not hunting per se.

[Retiredguy]

There is nothing that money can't buy. Enough coin will get you a governors permit. Enough coin pays for an outfitter and a dozen people to locate and then keep tabs on the single animal that the "hunter" wants to kill. In this case the shooter did have to make the thousand yard shot and so had to spend time at the range practicing to do what I think is generally a bad idea...shooting at those distances can go wrong in a fraction of a second. Luckily the bull was calm and stationary, occupied with feeding.

A legal hunt and a wonderful bull...but in the end it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and the whole circus that revolved around the taking of this bull does not portray hunters in a positive light to the masses.

[Ride Red]

Well he seemed humble and appreciative; that’s all that matters, rich or not. I give credit to people who have the ability to shoot that distance. ( ya I know, expensive gun, but you still need to be able to hold it) I’m a stalk close guy cause that’s what jacks me up. All I can say, what a bull!!!

[emerson]

We sure love to criticize. Same words used by trad bow hunters to describe rifle hunting.

[Fella]

I don’t have a problem with a governors tag. That’s a huge injection of money into fish and wildlife that the small amounts that resident tags cost couldn’t hope to match. So one rich guy gets to spend a couple hundred grand on a tag, doesn’t bug me at all.

[weatherby_man]

Good god thats an awesome beast. I dont have any problem with the rich paying ridiculous amounts to hunt and have the dirty work done for them. To me and others that isn't my definition of hunting, but usually businessmen work a huge amount and dont have time to put in scouting and figuring our spots, he even admits he's not a hunter as such. They still enjoy the thrill of the hunt and like said before a huge injection of cast to DFW. His attitude was I think very good, humble and emotional about taking such a fine animal. I'm happy for him.

[Retiredguy]

I don't have any problem with a rich guy winning the bid on a governor's tag at an auction. As was said the money goes to a good cause. I am talking about the overall picture. After 45 years of guiding I do have my own views when it comes to the "hunters" and it has nothing to do with money. It has to do with the hunters and how we view our self imposed "ethics" or "proper" way of doing things.

The guy who buys the very expensive tag and then hires a good outfitter and heads off on the hunt for as long as it takes for the hunter and their guide and packer to locate a great bull, stalk and successfully kill it...outstanding! Then there are the guys who buy the expensive tag at the auction and send an army out to locate and babysit a specific animal until the opening day of the season. They fly out on their private jet to be there for the opening morning, get lead by the hand to where a bunch of guides have the animal staked out after days of following and sleeping out overnight to keep tabs on it...using radios to keep in constant contact between the members of the surveillance crew and keep tabs on any unwanted resident hunters that may plan on hunting in the area. They get the hunters butt into a place where he can make the 'long range' shot because he is in no kind of conditions to actually climb up and down in that country and get within a reasonable shooting distance.

The shot is made and they video the rather prolonged death of the bull because they do not want the hunter to shoot the bull again incase the shot hits a tine on those magnificent antlers. They ride the shooter over on a mule and eventually get him to where part of the 'crew' has been lounging by the great bull for some time, and then take the customary grip and grin pictures and video for that all important look at me production for Youtube. The shooter then gets back on the mule and heads for the airport to quickly return to corporate America after spending almost an entire day getting nature on him. The crew is left to process the bull and get all the bits and pieces out of the steep terrain and the antlers and cape off to the taxidermist for mounting and an official green score on the rack. Outstanding? Not so much.

Sorry, but there is limit as to what we should view as acceptable. It may all be legal, but it is over the top in my books. Disagree with me all you want, but it is a sad commentary on what hunters view as acceptable and how it has morphed over the years. It most assuredly provides easily available fodder for the anti-hunters from Youtube to continue their never ending attacks on us. It is this view of hunting by non-hunters that brought about the demise of our grizzly hunting...the escapades of the "evil, rich trophy hunter".

[GreyDog]

Not a hunt in any way, shape, or form. "Hunter" didn't hunt the bull, didn't find the bull, didn't gut the bull, didn't pack the bull out. Probably didn't even climb on the mule by himself to get to the dead bull. From what I could tell, there was no helicopter involved in the "hunt" but it would not surprise me to learn there was. The bull is impressive; nothing else about the story is. The "hunt" and the culture which fosters hunts like this are both bulls**t. GD

[Downtown]

There is nothing that money can't buy. Enough coin will get you a governors permit. Enough coin pays for an outfitter and a dozen people to locate and then keep tabs on the single animal that the "hunter" wants to kill. In this case the shooter did have to make the thousand yard shot and so had to spend time at the range practicing to do what I think is generally a bad idea...shooting at those distances can go wrong in a fraction of a second. Luckily the bull was calm and stationary, occupied with feeding.

A legal hunt and a wonderful bull...but in the end it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and the whole circus that revolved around the taking of this bull does not portray hunters in a positive light to the masses.

All around quite something. Not to many People can hit a Target at 960 yards. Even with lots of practice with the 7mm Rem Mag or the 8*68 Weatherby I tap out at under 500. Would love to see the actual Shooter take the shot, caliber and Rifle would also be of interest.

Cheers

[ACB]

I have to agree with GreyDog, that's not hunting or fair chase. It's just the harvesting of a magnificent bull elk that wasn't earned by the hunter. I think we have to separate hunting and LOOOOONG range shooting. Don't get me wrong, I realize how hard it is to shoot 600,700,800 900 and 1000 yards and the type of equipment you have to have to be able to shoot those extreme distances and never mind the practise it takes to pull it off. But that's shooting, not hunting.

[Huntingtyler123]

At what yardage does it not become hunting but shooting then? Everyone in my opinion ( not just here) is shooting themselves in the foot. All was legal, guy has money , gets a fantastic bull and goes home. He showed good character and wasn’t full of himself. Whatever floats your boat. There is many different ways to hunt and many different ways to hunt when you have extra cash to burn

[weatherby_man]

At what yardage does it not become hunting but shooting then? Everyone in my opinion ( not just here) is shooting themselves in the foot. All was legal, guy has money , gets a fantastic bull and goes home. He showed good character and wasn’t full of himself. Whatever floats your boat. There is many different ways to hunt and many different ways to hunt when you have extra cash to burn

Agreed. The guy never claims to be some bad ass hunter that got the trophy after miles and days of pursuit, he even admits to not being a real hunter. You dont know his situation, or the circumstances, or the story behind the story. Dont apply how you think it should be done to every other hunt taking place in the world. We are all different and have access to do different levels of things. If you think this gives PETA more ammo, it doesn't, they dont need more ammo, they just constantly regurg the same tired old stories to the people that give that byline credence. It doesn't meet what I would consider hunting for myself, and some of you think the same, but dont paint the hunt and guy with a bad brush because he did that. IMHO hunters dissing hunters for a completely legal harvest that doesn't meet some internal moral compass of what some think hunting should be for all makes the hunting community look bad, not that hunt.

[willyqbc]

IMHO hunters dissing hunters for a completely legal harvest that doesn't meet some internal moral compass of what some think hunting should be for all makes the hunting community look bad, not that hunt.

Whole heartedly agree with this! Some of these comments reek of "elitism" to me....something akin to the dry fly purist looking down their nose at the "bait fisherman".

Bottom line...... it was a legal hunt, that put a bunch of dough back into fish and game, and the hunter was happy with HIS harvest. when the ethics/morals police shit on that, they are doing as much damage to our cause as any anti.

JMO
Chris

[emerson]

Maybe a few folks should be required to build their homes with their own hands. Not really fair to buy it, is it?

[GreyDog]

Maybe a few folks should be required to build their homes with their own hands. Not really fair to buy it, is it?
I did. Dug the hole, mixed and poured the concrete, pounded every nail, ran every wire, every pipe. So there!
This wasn't a hunt any more than when some duke took a ride on a train and shot buffalo from the car. Sorry, but no admiration here; except for the bull. They grow some big bulls down there and a lot of elk. GD

[dapesche]

I don’t have a problem with a governors tag. That’s a huge injection of money into fish and wildlife that the small amounts that resident tags cost couldn’t hope to match. So one rich guy gets to spend a couple hundred grand on a tag, doesn’t bug me at all.

I'm with you. Listened to a podcast regarding gov tag and it sounds like those dollars are required to go back into projects. The $$ does not go into a general revenue pool.

Wish we had more revenue for projects like that.

[butthead]

great bull. excellent shot but somehow, for me, a guy that admits he isn't a hunter killing a majestic bull like that at nearly 1000 yards just doesn't do it justice. Like he implies it is killing not hunting per se.
iam with you on this one

[butthead]

great bull. excellent shot but somehow, for me, a guy that admits he isn't a hunter killing a majestic bull like that at nearly 1000 yards just doesn't do it justice. Like he implies it is killing not hunting per se.
iam with you on this one

[Ambush]

Anti-hunter: "Lets go fight those murdering hunters!"

Other anti-hunter:: Not yet, they're doing a good job of fighting and killing each other. We'll pick the little splintered tribes off, one by one."

"A house divided cannot stand."

Pathetic.

[GreyDog]

Very noble sentiment but not applicable. One could decry market hunting and still support hunting. In fact, had sportsmen not done so, we might have no hunting today. This is, in essence, the modern day version of market hunting; selling game to the wealthy and excluding residents. This may be the hunting opportunity model we want to promote but I don't think so. GD

[hawk-i]

This in no way from my view point constitutes fair chase hunting...tracking the animals movement over the course of a year to pattern it with electron surveillance is BS.

Guy made an awesome shot though!

[264mag]

300k for the tag and 150k for the outfitter. Yowza!!!

[weekender7]

Maybe a few folks should be required to build their homes with their own hands. Not really fair to buy it, is it?

Been reading replies here and on youtube for an hour or so. As I sit here tired from working on the house my wife and I (both very senior citizens) are building, I find the above quote to be by far the best reply I have read concerning this subject.

[Gateholio]

Impressive bull. Good shot.

I also built my own home, when I was 25 years old. Plus some outbuildings including 2 small barns, 2 shops, a chicken coop and a woodshed. Just this spring I cut down some trees, dragged them out of the bush, peeled them and built another woodshed. It was easier when I was 25 years old. :)

[WhiteTailAB]

Fat rich guy shoots an elk, cool story bro post it again.

[Downtown]

300k for the tag and 150k for the outfitter. Yowza!!!

Just wondering,
Would you be so kind and provide the source of your information !

Thanks
Cheers

[Ubertuber]

I agree that it was a legal kill, but it wasn't hunting. Not my cup of tea.
My daughters 2x3 mulie is more of a trophy than that magnificent bull. She worked for it, he didn't.