LEH antlerless W/T Question

[BCKID]

I have a antlerless W/T tag for 4-06 zone A. The tag says valid for (antlerless or spike buck only) the regs say.

The bag limit for white-tailed deer in
MUs 4-1 to 4-7, 4-20 to 4-26, 4-34 to 4-37 and
4-40 is two, only one of which may be a buck.
So my question is, If I take a spike can I still shoot another buck?
I will also call the CO but I would think they are kinda busy now.

[Elkaholic]

I had this issue last year and I am pretty sure the answer is NO. 1 buck or two does if it works out that way. But still ask a CO

[Poguebilt]

I got a leh for 4-5 w/t doe..

from what I read... 1 doe and 1 buck...

[KodiakHntr]

That spike is a buck isn't he....Just a lil one...You can't shoot two bucks in that zone. One of each.

[ruger#1]

If it is a button buck, then I'm sure you can classify it as a doe.

[J_T]

Good idea to check with the CO. I know they want to make that a bit more clear in the regs.

Part of the confusion is that the East Kootenay is managing does and allows only one buck while the West Kootenay they are managing bucks and allow two bucks. That seems simple enough, but when you factor in LEH, new sr/jr seasons and bow only seasons it creates confusion.

In GOS in the EK, a hunter can only take one WT deer. A buck unless he has an LEH, or he takes one with a bow during a bow only season, or if he is a senior/junior and takes one during the sr/jr season.

In the EK, using a bow, in the bow only season (Sept 1- 9) or (Dec 1 - 20) a hunter can take two does without an LEH.

My interpretation of your dilemma is that if you take a spike on your LEH. Your done. in 4-06, the regs state one WT buck. Take the doe and buy another tag for a buck.

Good idea to check with a CO.

[SavageShooter]

J T, If he takes a doe with his LEH (by rifle), doesn't that count against his regional baglimit of one WT, i.e. he can not shoot another WT in 4-06 (even if it a buck) unless it is in an archery season.

SS

[BCKID]

That spike is a buck isn't he....Just a lil one...You can't shoot two bucks in that zone. One of each.

You are quite right it's a buck. Seems odd the way the LEH card is worded. I haven't heard back from the CO but I will post the reply. BCKID

[KodiakHntr]

The only reason it says antler-less or spike buck (and this comes from both CO's in Creston, Deboon and Barber) is that it can be very hard to distinguish a smaller spike from a doe. The gov't doesn't want people accidentally shooting a spike and walking away from it.

[J_T]

J T, If he takes a doe with his LEH (by rifle), doesn't that count against his regional baglimit of one WT, As I understand it, the regional bag limit for WT is two.

[Seeadler]

The only reason it says antler-less or spike buck (and this comes from both CO's in Creston, Deboon and Barber) is that it can be very hard to distinguish a smaller spike from a doe. The gov't doesn't want people accidentally shooting a spike and walking away from it.

I had this very thing happen to me once, shot a "doe" and when I walked up on her, turned out she was a he.

[SavageShooter]

As I understand it, the regional bag limit for WT is two.

Sorry I meant the MU limit is one. From the regs:


WHITE-TAILED DEER 4-1 to 4-7, 4-20 to 4-26, 4-34 to 4-37, 4-40 . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Sept 10 - Nov 30 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1(limit)

So if you shot a doe (with rifle) in 4-06 with an LEH, then it would count against your MU lmit of one whitetail, wouldn't it?

Thanks,

SS

[BCKID]

Original post quote;

The bag limit for white-tailed deer in
MUs 4-1 to 4-7, 4-20 to 4-26, 4-34 to 4-37 and
4-40 is two, only one of which may be a buck.

On page 48 of the regs under Regional bag limits says the above.

[ruger#1]

Deer

: The aggregate bag limit in the Kootenay
Region is two. The bag limit for mule (blacktailed)
deer is one. The bag limit for white-tailed
deer in MUs 4-8, 4-9, 4-14 to 4-19, 4-27 to 4-33,
4-38 and 4-39 is two, only one of which may be
antlerless. The bag limit for white-tailed deer in
MUs 4-1 to 4-7, 4-20 to 4-26, 4-34 to 4-37 and
4-40 is two, only one of which may be a buck.
(antlerless white-tailed deer may only be harvested
during the bow only season,

[SavageShooter]

I got it now thank you.
So I have an LEH draw in 4-07, so I can take both a buck and a LEH doe in 4-07.

Thanks

SS

[BCKID]

OK here is the response I recieved from the CO in Creston.

-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 12:37 PM
To: deBoon, Arnold ENV:EX
Subject: RE: LEH

Arnold: I have a antlerless W/T tag for 4-06 zone A. The tag says valid
for (antlerless or spike buck only) the regs say.

The bag limit for white-tailed deer in
MUs 4-1 to 4-7, 4-20 to 4-26, 4-34 to 4-37 and 4-40 is two, only one of
which may be a buck.
So my question is, If I take a spike can I still shoot another buck?
Spike considered antlerless or buck?

Response from CO;
If you kill a spike buck on your antlerless permit you can still kill a
buck on a second tag, but you must carry your LEH Permit with you even
after you kill the spike buck to prove it was taken under LEH. A spike
buck is considered antlered but the LEH allows it to be killed on the
permit. The general open season allows you to kill one other buck.