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Corona1986
08-01-2020, 10:18 PM
Looking for peoples input and recommendations for a single burner stove for hiking camping/ hunting. Anyone can read the store labels but I really want reviews from people who use them. I dont need the best but I dont want junk. Not sure what fuel is the best or what unit has the lowest maintence or what fuel is the lightest and last the longest. Coleman single burner stove inexpensive amd small propane bottles are very easy to find but not sure how they work in wind and rain and snow.
Hope everyone can help me out. Thank you

g_man668
08-01-2020, 11:18 PM
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tdot
08-02-2020, 12:39 AM
MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe has become my favouritd stove.

I prefer the MSR Isopro fuel, but unless you are camping in cold weather most of the fuel works perfectly fine.

digger dogger
08-02-2020, 07:03 AM
I have a msr whisper lite.
It’s been a good stove and never failed on me.
It’s 15+ yrs old, and used.
If I crushed it, I’d buy another.

Bustercluck
08-02-2020, 08:51 AM
I think it depends what your intentions are. If you’re planning on boiling water for mountain house, etc I think the jetboil is hands down the best stove you can get. If you want to cook eggs, bacon and pancakes I would say you need one of the other msr type stoves with a lightweight frying pan. I just did 4 days in the backcountry with three people and heated up all of our dehydrated meals with one small fuel canister and the jetboil(I can tell you the size if you want me to go look).

as for fuel, I only buy the all season. This last trip I used a can of msr and it seemed to boil faster longer than whatever I used last year. It might be just me, but it didn’t seem to slow down as much as whatever I was using.

I have a single burner propane one I throw in my quad and the odd day out in the field I’ll throw a pack of johnsonvilles in the back for a nice mid day snack.

Graden
08-02-2020, 11:26 AM
I got a msr whisperlite universal. It works great and can use a variety of fuels. Gas canister, white camp fuel, and then kerosene, diesel and if desperate, gasoline.

grantk
08-02-2020, 02:26 PM
I really like my MSR Windburner, but just use it for rehydrating meals and coffee. It seems pretty bomb-proof, except it doesn't have a piezo start like the Jetboil. Pocket Rocket or similar is going to be the smallest/lightest and cheapest. Can't go wrong with a Whisperlite either, there's a reason it's been around forever and is still popular.

jtred
08-02-2020, 04:27 PM
I really like my Primus Ti, weighs next to nothing and you're not limited to just boiling like the Jetboils. When we're headed into one of the many alpine lakes in the region we always carry a small frying pan and some oil, nothing like pan fried cutthroat trout. Spend the morning hunting, do some fishing while glassing the surrounding slopes, head out for an evening hunt followed by fresh caught trout. Sure beats Mountain House.

Nero
08-02-2020, 06:32 PM
I have a 20 yr old Primus Multi-Fuel stove which I used every summer backpacking and camping. The stove is a beast, very powerful burner. I have used gas canister and camp fuel without any issues. It is not the lightest but very durable. I haven't replaced any parts yet.

HarryToolips
08-02-2020, 06:52 PM
MSR pocket rocket with the white gas canisters have served me well....

Squamch
08-02-2020, 08:19 PM
I also hqve a pocket rocket. Small pot, then inside is a small fuel can, the stove, pot holder, and a lighter. I pad the fuel can with a shop towel and wrap the stove itself all folded up in another one. Stops the clinking.

I had a whisperlite before, which was great but sicked to get going with cold, wet hands. I would like to pick up an international for a just in case stove in the truck.

waserwolf
08-02-2020, 10:43 PM
Like mentioned.....it depends what your use is.
I only have experience with the MSR Pocket Rocket and I really like it!
It has 2 great features;
A built in Regulator to keep the same gas pressure when your Fuel Bottle is low as well as sufficient pressure for Cold Weather operation.
It also has a built in Piezo Igniter.
I dehydrate my own Meals so I run Toaks Titanium Pots and Cups.

Ponderosa Pine
08-03-2020, 12:12 AM
MSR WindPro 2 if ambient temperature is below freezing.
Pocket rocket all other times.
All suggestions above sound good though.

Blockcaver
08-03-2020, 06:31 AM
MSR Pocket Rocket for backpacking. I go through 1 ounce of fuel per person per day heating coffee/tea/tang water for breakfast and a Mt House for supper. I size the fuel canister(s) to the trip duration with an ounce or two planned to be left over. Mine is about 20 yrs old and going strong. I think the latest new ones are more effective as the bottle runs low on fuel but no personal experience. I always weigh the full canisters and write that info on the bottom with a marker, then you can re-weigh them to know how much fuel remains in the partial cans. And some even have the info printed on them.

For the the back of the truck or quad box it's hard to beat a one burner Coleman propane stove that uses the 1# bottles. They put out a lot of heat and are cheap to buy and run vs the backpack style canisters.

B.C.Boy(100%)
08-03-2020, 06:45 AM
I’ve been using the Primus Classic Trail for quite a few years now, it breaks down nicely and fits in my pot with my cup and spoon.
I can boil or simmer with it.
I have poached (steamed) many a trout with it.
Been used up high during a goat hunts, and down low at the beach, never an issue.

Greenthumbed
08-03-2020, 07:56 AM
I have two stoves. I have a 25 year old Colman PEAK 1 white gas that I use in the wintertime. This is a very reliable stove that simmers well and boils like crazy summer or winter. I like the refillable bottle and that you can buy white gas anywhere. It is a very stable base for cooking on even on uneven ground. It’s a little bulky in comparison to modern stoves, but still considered a backpacking stove.
I also have a ultra small GSI Butane/propane stove with a GSI one litre pot that is a super compact kit that really turns out the heat for boiling and simmers quite well too. This is the stove I bring for backpack Mountain adventures. This is a great stove, but has limitations. The draw back of these kind of stoves is they don’t perform well in the winter, the fuel bottles are not refillable And the cooking platform is not nearly as stable as the PEAK 1
If I had to only have one I’d have to go with the PEAK 1 with the white gas. Very reliable.

TeamGrizzly
08-03-2020, 09:36 AM
I have a Jetboil Flash which works fast & efficiently at boiling water. The MSR Pocket Rocket is great too for it's small size. Either one is good. And the Jetboil can be used with other pots using a separate pot support. I would also consider getting the extra support legs for the Pocket Rocket just to make the whole system more stable. The Jetboil comes with support legs.

twoSevenO
08-03-2020, 09:41 AM
I have a MSR XGK and pocket rocket. The xgk Whitegas stove is just overkill unless you're doing long trips or cooking for a large group


These days I stick with just the small pocket rocket types

wildcatter
08-03-2020, 10:21 AM
I have a 20 yr old Primus Multi-Fuel stove which I used every summer backpacking and camping. The stove is a beast, very powerful burner. I have used gas canister and camp fuel without any issues. It is not the lightest but very durable. I haven't replaced any parts yet.

I have a really old Primus stove with a pump, made out of brass, strictly for liquid fuel and once heat up it burns like crazy, never anything wrong.

Marc
08-03-2020, 11:40 AM
I just purchased the MSR Windburner (Gas Canister) with coffee press last fall and like it's compactness and dependability for those light weight camping / hunting trips.

I also purchased the MSR Dragonfly and installed a "quiet stove" adapter for it's simmering and cooking abilities. It's a liquid stove that can run on white gas, as well as gasoline and Kerosene if you are in a pinch. The stove fits inside a 2 liter MSR Alpine pot and the lid also acts as a plate / frying pan if you are trying to cut weight. The heat shield, pot holder, and fuel pump all fit inside the pot as well for storage. I purchased the dragonfly for the times I'll be hunting / camping below -12C and when I'm hoping to catch fish or want to pack something a little more substantial then dehydrated meals for an overnighter. I've had it out on a couple of overnights this summer so far. Great for making Eggs and Bacon in the morning or a hearty fry-up for supper in the evening. I've been testing an 11 Oz fuel bottle for weekend trips (cooking for two) and still have half 3 to 5 Oz left over at the end of the weekend. This is cooking fresh food and boiling water for coffee etc, we are talking 30-45 minute meals not just doing a 2 minute boil for dehydrated meals. I also have a 20 Oz bottle for longer trips. hoping to do some winter backpacking this winter and this stove should melt snow and cook pretty much anything I throw at it. It's actually become my favorite stove and the windburner has been sitting idle pretty much since I got the dragonfly. It's not the lightest stove out there, but probably one of if not the best stove for cooking real food out of a backpack anytime of year.

warnniklz
08-03-2020, 11:43 AM
Been rockin pocket rocket and pocket rocket 2 for the last 8 years. Some foil to wrap around on a windy day helps. But not necessary.

Colder weather, set it up on a pad or something to keep the fuel out of the cold. Also warm up the fuel in your jacket first on cold days. -32 it can be finicky.

Edit: my parents keep one in each of their quads and sleds.

Weatherby Fan
08-03-2020, 12:34 PM
Jetboil or MSR Windburner are the two I have both work excellent, the Jetboil has the auto ignition which the MSR doesn't other than that flip a coin.

Corona1986
08-03-2020, 01:35 PM
Wow lots to think about but I just made a small stainless expanded metal grill rack so im going with a boiling water style of cooker. Been looking at the Jetboils and the MSRs. Thank you for the info and input for personal uses.

jlirot
08-03-2020, 02:28 PM
I survived last week with the primus. I got the kit that comes with 2 pots. One with the vents at the bottom and one plain one. I liked it a LOT. I was boiling water for 4 people so got the larger one. For 1 person I would go with the smaller version. My online searches turned up the Primus as the best bang for the buck - and you can control the temp if you need to. I am very impressed.

upperleftcoaster
08-04-2020, 10:26 AM
i have the pocket rocket deluxe. built in igniter and built a little more tough than the regular pocket rocket. my buddy used his pocket rocket 2 on a month long trip and it didn't survive super well, he is a bit rough on things though. if you're just boiling water, the jet boil is hard to beat. i wanted some more options on pots and stuff, so pocket rocket.

Laurp99
08-04-2020, 10:37 AM
I've been backpacking/Winter camping for 30+ years. I use a MSR Whisperlite International and it has performed flawlessly in any condition.

About 8 years ago I purchased an Emberlit Titanium wood stove for backpacking, it weighs next to nothing and as long as you can find wood, twigs, pine cones you will have a fire and hot water in no time.

https://emberlit.com/collections/stoves

pg83
08-04-2020, 11:23 AM
Surprised the MSR Reactor hasn't been mentioned yet. Not the lightest option out there, but you'll be hard-pressed to beat it in any other category.

digger dogger
08-04-2020, 02:36 PM
Jetboil or MSR Windburner are the two I have both work excellent, the Jetboil has the auto ignition which the MSR doesn't other than that flip a coin.

Dave M, had the jetboil and msr reactor, he did a side by side comparison. He kept the reactor I do believe.

But it was more of a coin toss for sure.

Night Hawk 3
08-04-2020, 02:38 PM
This is like asking how long is a piece of string...

I have many stoves, love them all for what they are good at, but none are good at everything.

I have 3 very well used Coleman Peak 1 (separate burner and fuel bottle) stoves that are no longer produced - totally reliable, have had them since the early 90s. Great stove, reasonably hot, not super fuel efficient, reasonably quiet and fast lighting. Simmers amazingly well. Good in cold weather with liguid fuel. Stable for pots. Parts are hard to get.

I have the all-in-one Coleman 1 burner multi-fuel - good stove, moderately hot, quiet, lights fast, simmers well. Heavy. Ok on fuel. Good in cold weather. can be tippy with larger pots.

MSR 1.7L Reactor. Amazing for speed. Is a one trick pony in as much as it's not good at simmering, but will boil water fast and rehydrate meals fast. Good fuel efficiency. Canister fuel, so starts to get limited in colder weather (-8c-ish). A bit heavy with the included and required pot. Has a good fit in a pack as it's all contained in the pot, but a bit bulky. This is an amazing stove all round, and the Windburner is amazing too.

MSR pocket rocket deluxe (the deluxe has the built in piezo starter). Amazing!! Light weight. Tiny to pack. Canister fuel. Can simmer. Quiet. Best used for ultra light weight trips combined with a Ti stove. Super fuel efficient if you run it so that there's little excess/waste heat around your pot (run it slightly below full blast for best efficiency) - has similar fuel efficiency to the Reactor if you use it carefully. Canister stove so no that great in cold weather as the fuel freezes. Better quality fuel mixes do work better, as do larger fuel cans. Piezo starts to get sketchy at really high elevation, cupping your hand around the burner while lighting helps in this situation (keeps gas near the spark). I used this on a 5 week/900 km hike last year and with two people we went through maybe 2.5 mid sized (400gr) fuel bottle cooking every night. My No. 1 Choice all round.

MSR Dragonfly. Hot. Loud, does not simmer well (mine in an older version - it's settings are a fairly binary - flamethrower or almost flamethrower). If you want to boil water in the winter, this one is a great choice as parts are available. Takes time to warm up the fuel tube. It's the stove I use the least... folds up into a weird shape that does not pack nicely. Liquid fuel so great in winter. Uses a stupid, annoying aluminum foil windshield for the burner...

I also have a Ti Tri alcohol stove that I hardly use, it's for super light weight stuff - can also be converted to wood use. https://www.traildesigns.com/products/sidewinder-ti-tri They are restricted in some areas due to no open burning, so that's when I went with the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe.

I have other stoves too, but not worth mentioning (larger, heavier etc.).


In a nutshell:

If in warmer than freezing weather -

Get an MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe

Get premium fuel canisters (MSR or other main brands, not Canadian tire fuel - it makes a difference in the cold).

Practice on being fuel efficient. Only have it on for the time you need to heat.

Canisters are recyclable if you puncture them once they are empty.

Get an Evernew Ti pot (a bit larger than what you think you might need - the operating capacity is less than the total capacity). A shorter/wider pot works better to take up heat than a taller skinnier pot. 1.3L is good for 2 people. 900mL for 1 person if not melting snow.

If in cold weather, then use a liquid fuel stove. Same pot as above.

For most reliable and best stove lighting, get a Light My Fire fire steel and you will not carry matches again.

Now you're done.... stop researching stuff and go camping.

BimmerBob
08-04-2020, 04:10 PM
I have been a stove nut for many years (must be my pyro genes surfacing) and to me and the country I most find myself in, with plenty of small wood chunks available. the best has been the Biolite Campstove bundle. I have added the grill which is bulky and heavy but carry it on a quad so not much of an issue. (the stove and kettle weigh just over 3 pounds and nest together nicely) Controlling the temp takes a bit of practice for actual cooking but for boiling water it is foolproof. As others have indicated for a carry your fuel stove, I favour a white gas stove, they work in all temps and have a fantastic range from simmer to blow torch heating.

My want for future is to find or make a reliable rocket stove engine that I can dig a small hole and bury the engine inside my tent with the exhaust vent taken underground outside the tent so I can minimize fuel use and still get the tent warmed up while having a handy cooking solution inside if required.

Here is a link to the Biolite site for their offerings, I will caution that they are pretty pricey but the quality is exceptional.

https://ca.bioliteenergy.com/products/campstove-2?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=NE+%7C+Brand+%7C+CAN+%7C+2.14.2020+l_ DE1+864f&utm_content=431441251108&gclid=CjwKCAjwjqT5BRAPEiwAJlBuBQPQ0fhV0VvdgblNwvw_ 7ajo5lx7v8ciRDofNITiNR8onwX6BKD7vBoCfwIQAvD_BwE

boxhitch
08-04-2020, 05:56 PM
For the wood burners, this one works
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61GauTLZKoL._AC_UL115_.jpgRio Rand

Ron.C
08-04-2020, 07:15 PM
Another vote here for the MSR pocket rocket.

walker1985
08-04-2020, 10:51 PM
Anybody ever try a snow peak Giga power?

Lone Tree
08-05-2020, 06:53 AM
MSR whisper light international has worked well for me for over 20 years. But I only bring it if I’m camping in the alpine or somewhere really windy. Otherwise I use a 40 gram alcohol stove, it’s basically just a little titanium platform for a bit of marine alcohol or even better an esbit cube, which is a fuel block that burns for 12 mins and will boil a cup of water in 8 mins. It doesn’t perform like a real stove, but it will warm some water up to rehydrate food or make coffee or tea. And it weighs so little, you need a esbit or two for each meal and they only weigh 12 grams! So all together yoh can do a couple nights for around 100 grams, and that is truly ultra light weight.

Osprey87
08-05-2020, 07:02 AM
I've been running the soto micro regulator ost-1 for 2 years, better build quality over a pocket rocket. Before that I had a jetboil that was junk. I paired the soto with a snowpeak mini solo cookset, perfect combo and extremely lightweight

ForealBoreal
08-05-2020, 01:42 PM
..........

slimbo
08-05-2020, 04:22 PM
Windburner for the win!

Corona1986
08-06-2020, 07:54 PM
I think im going to get the MSR Whisperlite International.

Beachcomber
08-06-2020, 08:23 PM
I think im going to get the MSR Whisperlite International.

That is a good call. I just had mine apart today for a good cleaning and replaced o-ring in the fuel bottle pump before a four day hike. Simple and efficient and functional. Not sure how old mine is but has always worked well with no issues.

Treed
08-07-2020, 07:35 PM
I’ve had an MSR whisperlite for around 25 years. Just keeps on ticking...

Marc
08-08-2020, 11:43 AM
Check out this video,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ftvhAANhQ8

I have it an it's amazing at dispersing the flame outwards giving a more even cooking surface as well as cutting the noise by half. I've done eggs and bacon as well as steak with onions and mushrooms with no issues with simmering at all. We've also cooked full size sausages on it and cooked right through without charring the outside.


This is like asking how long is a piece of string...

I have many stoves, love them all for what they are good at, but none are good at everything.

I have 3 very well used Coleman Peak 1 (separate burner and fuel bottle) stoves that are no longer produced - totally reliable, have had them since the early 90s. Great stove, reasonably hot, not super fuel efficient, reasonably quiet and fast lighting. Simmers amazingly well. Good in cold weather with liguid fuel. Stable for pots. Parts are hard to get.

I have the all-in-one Coleman 1 burner multi-fuel - good stove, moderately hot, quiet, lights fast, simmers well. Heavy. Ok on fuel. Good in cold weather. can be tippy with larger pots.

MSR 1.7L Reactor. Amazing for speed. Is a one trick pony in as much as it's not good at simmering, but will boil water fast and rehydrate meals fast. Good fuel efficiency. Canister fuel, so starts to get limited in colder weather (-8c-ish). A bit heavy with the included and required pot. Has a good fit in a pack as it's all contained in the pot, but a bit bulky. This is an amazing stove all round, and the Windburner is amazing too.

MSR pocket rocket deluxe (the deluxe has the built in piezo starter). Amazing!! Light weight. Tiny to pack. Canister fuel. Can simmer. Quiet. Best used for ultra light weight trips combined with a Ti stove. Super fuel efficient if you run it so that there's little excess/waste heat around your pot (run it slightly below full blast for best efficiency) - has similar fuel efficiency to the Reactor if you use it carefully. Canister stove so no that great in cold weather as the fuel freezes. Better quality fuel mixes do work better, as do larger fuel cans. Piezo starts to get sketchy at really high elevation, cupping your hand around the burner while lighting helps in this situation (keeps gas near the spark). I used this on a 5 week/900 km hike last year and with two people we went through maybe 2.5 mid sized (400gr) fuel bottle cooking every night. My No. 1 Choice all round.

MSR Dragonfly. Hot. Loud, does not simmer well (mine in an older version - it's settings are a fairly binary - flamethrower or almost flamethrower). If you want to boil water in the winter, this one is a great choice as parts are available. Takes time to warm up the fuel tube. It's the stove I use the least... folds up into a weird shape that does not pack nicely. Liquid fuel so great in winter. Uses a stupid, annoying aluminum foil windshield for the burner...

I also have a Ti Tri alcohol stove that I hardly use, it's for super light weight stuff - can also be converted to wood use. https://www.traildesigns.com/products/sidewinder-ti-tri They are restricted in some areas due to no open burning, so that's when I went with the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe.

I have other stoves too, but not worth mentioning (larger, heavier etc.).


In a nutshell:

If in warmer than freezing weather -

Get an MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe

Get premium fuel canisters (MSR or other main brands, not Canadian tire fuel - it makes a difference in the cold).

Practice on being fuel efficient. Only have it on for the time you need to heat.

Canisters are recyclable if you puncture them once they are empty.

Get an Evernew Ti pot (a bit larger than what you think you might need - the operating capacity is less than the total capacity). A shorter/wider pot works better to take up heat than a taller skinnier pot. 1.3L is good for 2 people. 900mL for 1 person if not melting snow.

If in cold weather, then use a liquid fuel stove. Same pot as above.

For most reliable and best stove lighting, get a Light My Fire fire steel and you will not carry matches again.

Now you're done.... stop researching stuff and go camping.

B-rad
08-08-2020, 01:16 PM
this MSR everyone is referring too,,,,,where is that from??,,,,,all i have here is a Canadian tire,,,,,and all they carry is the single burner woods stove,,,butane,,,,,,,and another question,,,,,,whats difference between isobutane and standard butane?,,,

albravo2
08-08-2020, 04:19 PM
I have a Jetboil and an MSR Reactor. I prefer the Reactor because I don't like how the Jetboil pot attaches to the stove in a twist/lock fashion. I always feel like I'm going to splash hot water all over myself when I go to pour.

I like the fact that the Jetboil has a sparker built in but not enough to get over the attachment issue.

Weatherby Fan
08-08-2020, 04:53 PM
Dave M, had the jetboil and msr reactor, he did a side by side comparison. He kept the reactor I do believe.

But it was more of a coin toss for sure.

I did a boil comparison with the Jetboil and the MSR Windburner and they were within seconds of each other, they are both as good as it gets for reasonably priced backpackers stove, I take the Jetboil as it has the autoignighter but they don't last either !

35rem
08-09-2020, 11:07 AM
I am surprised nobody mentioned Trangia (https://www.canadianoutdoorequipment.com/trangia-27-1-ul-cookset.html) stoves yet. They have been around for ever and work well. Still made in Sweden; tried and tested for decades by hunters, campers, scouts as well as the army. It is a compact unit with burner, base/windshield, pots and a frying pan all fitting together for easy transport. The base/windshield is stable and directs the heat around the pot really well. The standard alcohol burner is simplicity itself; fill with alcohol/methyl hydrate and light. No pumps or hoses that can leak or fail, jets that get plugged and the fuel can be bought cheap at every hardware store. And it is quiet; very, very quiet. Adapters are available for other types of fuel if you desire; I can use my Primus Multi fuel burner in it, but find I use the original alcohol burner more as it works well without the smell of gasoline and fiddling with pumps and plugged jets. The burner lid allows you to temper the flame so you can simmer things on it while at full burn it is hot enough to quickly boil water, bake pancakes or fry your bacon and eggs. They are not expensive either; my base version is only $95.50 for the whole package. Add the no spill extra fuel bottle (https://www.amazon.ca/Trangia-327511-Fuel-Bottle-1-Liter/dp/B000Q6BQKG/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-p13n1_0?crid=W8ZG0NAQVRS9&cv_ct_cx=trangia+fuel+bottle&dchild=1&keywords=trangia+fuel+bottle&pd_rd_i=B000Q6BQKG&pd_rd_r=d0a4b32c-07de-4fb9-b718-b9cfef5807fc&pd_rd_w=DHI2O&pd_rd_wg=scKma&pf_rd_p=43a9c4d1-127a-4491-8ea0-641567812f17&pf_rd_r=NAD8GQEHJFZ48NS2PA9W&psc=1&qid=1596996827&sprefix=trangia%2Caps%2C221&sr=1-1-791c2399-d602-4248-afbb-8a79de2d236f)for $25 and you have a great setup to go camping for a whole week.

I do have an Emberlit Ti twig stove, a Solo wood burning knock off, a Primus Ti Multi Fuel, a Coleman white gas stove, and an old Primus kerosene gasser. For short trips the Trangia wins every time due to its light weight, complete package (900 gr for pots, burner combined) and bomb proof, hassle free performance.

islandarcher
08-09-2020, 12:39 PM
I have a whisperlite. I like the white gas over the butane canisters. I like the fact I can visually confirm fuel levels and top it off before I leave for a trip. It boils water fast, but there is no simmer of cook. I keep one in my work truck to make coffee on long, isolated drives to sites.

Had mine for 13 years. Rebuilt it once and replaced a fuel pump 8 years ago.

grantk
08-09-2020, 01:09 PM
this MSR everyone is referring too,,,,,where is that from??,,,,,all i have here is a Canadian tire,,,,,and all they carry is the single burner woods stove,,,butane,,,,,,,and another question,,,,,,whats difference between isobutane and standard butane?,,,

Which stove? I ordered mine from Atmosphere.ca, on sale + free shipping.

Isobutane has a lower boiling point that regular butane, so it will produce gas vapour down to about -12C rather than only -1C. The MSR fuel canisters also contain propane, which has boosts cold weather performance, as propane is good to -40.

B-rad
08-09-2020, 01:59 PM
Which stove? I ordered mine from Atmosphere.ca, on sale + free shipping.

Isobutane has a lower boiling point that regular butane, so it will produce gas vapour down to about -12C rather than only -1C. The MSR fuel canisters also contain propane, which has boosts cold weather performance, as propane is good to -40.
thanku for response,,,,your answer actually cleared alot of things//questions i had,,,,im good to go now,,,,,,,have a really good idea what im looking for now

grantk
08-09-2020, 03:30 PM
I haven't tried the CT Woods brand canisters to compare, but even though it is labeled as butane, it is iso-butane + propane, or at least mostly iso-butane. I'll probably just buy the Woods one next if it goes on sale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7oi6Idc0Qg

35rem
08-09-2020, 04:02 PM
Downside of white gas stoves is that they are noisy, none of them simmer well, they have a fair amount of moving parts and jets that like to get plugged at inconvenient times. If you ever need to disassemble one on the trail do so in a Ziplock bag (ask me how I know..). The (iso) butane/propane stoves are simple to operate and worry free. The ones that have the burner on top of the fuel canister tend to be wobbly, have poor wind resistance and, depending on the brand, the canisters are not sold everywhere. Both types will require a windshield in windy conditions; for most models this is an extra.
Alcohol stoves like the Trangia have none of these issues. Downsides of alcohol stoves are their soundless, colourless flame making it hard to see if the stove is lit. Waving your hand over it will quickly tell you though. Alcohol/methyl hydrate does not have the same BTU per weight (10,000 BTU/lbs) as white gas (20,000 BTU/lbs) or propane (21,500BTU/lbs). You will need to refill the burner often; basically before each meal. Since filling only takes a few seconds not a big deal.
If weight is your most important consideration a basic propane stove is hard to beat for longer trips. For short trips an alcohol stove still wins due to the low weight of the burner. Both butane/propane and alcohol stoves are virtually maintenance free.

Here is a good article comparing different types of stoves:

https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use