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Murder
07-23-2020, 05:34 PM
Having a bit of trouble understanding moose bag limits and just want to be sure I understand correctly. Our group of 4 got a shared hunt LEH moose draw good for 2 bull moose. I am assuming any size as there are no restrictions stated on the authorizations. Now the area we are going also is open for spike/fork moose with a bag limit of 1.

Does this mean our group can cancel our 2 bull moose tags on any animal, AS WELL AS shoot another spike/fork each. Is there a provincial bag limit on moose that I am not seeing in the regs?

Thanks all

Everett
07-23-2020, 05:53 PM
Bag limit for Moose is one province wide.

RyoTHC
07-23-2020, 06:01 PM
One person one moose. You shoot a spike and that’s technically your LEH bull.
mid all stars aligned 6 people could take 6 bulls if you found two immys..

but I think you’re counting your eggs way before they hatch lol.

huntingfamily
07-23-2020, 06:03 PM
Murder said, "Does this mean our group can cancel our 2 bull moose tags on any animal"
No, it means your group can take 2 bull moose and 2 of them tag those 2.
The other 2 could take spike/fork bulls and tag them.
As stated, the provincial bag limit is one moose.

Murder
07-23-2020, 06:13 PM
Thanks for clearing it up gang!

Cheers

Rieber
07-23-2020, 06:15 PM
What I understand is in your group, everyone will purchase a moose tag. Two bulls can be knocked down under the LEH authorizations and then 1 spike/fork each per the other 2 hunters with un-cancelled tags can be knocked down. The 4 of you in your group could go home with a total of 4 bulls but at least two will have to be immies. One cancelled moose tag per hunter. Don't waste money buying two moose tags - actually I hope the system has a self check to ensure you can't buy more than one moose tag per hunting year.

lol - two other replies before I finished typing. Cheers

Murder
07-23-2020, 06:34 PM
What I understand is in your group, everyone will purchase a moose tag. Two bulls can be knocked down under the LEH authorizations and then 1 spike/fork each per the other 2 hunters with un-cancelled tags can be knocked down. The 4 of you in your group could go home with a total of 4 bulls but at least two will have to be immies. One cancelled moose tag per hunter. Don't waste money buying two moose tags - actually I hope the system has a self check to ensure you can't buy more than one moose tag per hunting year.

lol - two other replies before I finished typing. Cheers

It would seem you are correct. Thanks for taking the time to write!

srthomas75
07-23-2020, 07:38 PM
I don't think the online tag shopping cart would allow you to purchase two moose tags under the same hunter number.

boxhitch
07-24-2020, 07:27 AM
You have a shared hunt for two moose. The point of the hunt is multiple hunters can share in the hunt and share the harvest. The group in the shared hunt is limited to two moose in your case.

"For shared hunts only,each hunter of the shared group is required tocarry the Harvest Report form while hunting.The Harvest Report form is on the bottompart of the shared limited entry hunting authorization. Your shared limited entryhunting authorization is available online inyour Fish and Wildlife profile. Communicationis required within the group while huntingto avoid exceeding the group limit. Once anauthorized animal is harvested, the successfulhunter must immediately inform the othermembers of the group, and each member ofthe group must immediately document thesuccessful harvest on their Harvest Reportform"

And yet the LEH paper is not clear that each hunter must cancel their own individual tag or not
What is the wording on the Harvest Report form?

Darksith
07-24-2020, 08:32 AM
One person one moose. You shoot a spike and that’s technically your LEH bull.
mid all stars aligned 6 people could take 6 bulls if you found two immys..

but I think you’re counting your eggs way before they hatch lol.
they only get 2 moose on LEH, so you would need 4 immys

Darksith
07-24-2020, 08:33 AM
What I understand is in your group, everyone will purchase a moose tag. Two bulls can be knocked down under the LEH authorizations and then 1 spike/fork each per the other 2 hunters with un-cancelled tags can be knocked down. The 4 of you in your group could go home with a total of 4 bulls but at least two will have to be immies. One cancelled moose tag per hunter. Don't waste money buying two moose tags - actually I hope the system has a self check to ensure you can't buy more than one moose tag per hunting year.

lol - two other replies before I finished typing. Cheers
The first 2 moose you shoot will have to go against your LEH. You will have a hard time explaining how you shot 2 immy's first and then droped to 50" bulls after the 2 immy's.

KodiakHntr
07-24-2020, 09:06 AM
You have a shared hunt for two moose. The point of the hunt is multiple hunters can share in the hunt and share the harvest. The group in the shared hunt is limited to two moose in your case.

"For shared hunts only,each hunter of the shared group is required tocarry the Harvest Report form while hunting.The Harvest Report form is on the bottompart of the shared limited entry hunting authorization. Your shared limited entryhunting authorization is available online inyour Fish and Wildlife profile. Communicationis required within the group while huntingto avoid exceeding the group limit. Once anauthorized animal is harvested, the successfulhunter must immediately inform the othermembers of the group, and each member ofthe group must immediately document thesuccessful harvest on their Harvest Reportform"

And yet the LEH paper is not clear that each hunter must cancel their own individual tag or not
What is the wording on the Harvest Report form?

As to the tag cancellation, NO, only the two guys who killed moose cancel their tags. You do not cancel a tag unless you have a dead animal at your feet and you killed it. The only thing that LEH does is allow 4 guys to hunt for moose in a zone or for a class of animal that they wouldn't have gotten to without the LEH, and allows anyone two of those four hunters to kill two moose. It doesn't mean that you can't hunt moose anywhere else if you weren't one of the two guys who killed one.

The part you have bolded means to avoid exceeding the group limit for that LEH Authorized hunt. Meaning that if you have 4 dudes hunting in a LEH zone at the same time you have to be able to communicate among each other to ensure that you don't end up with 3 dead bulls on an LEH Authorization that allows 2 bulls.
Or to word it slightly differently if you are hunting a zone that ALSO has a spike/fork hunt that you have to be able to communicate amongst the authorization holders to ensure that you don't end up with 3 or 4 dead bulls that aren't spike/forks. You have to be able to communicate to make sure that you don't kill more bulls on the LEH Authorization than is allowed. If your authorization is for "any bull" then you can shoot any bull you see on that permit. If there is a spike/fork season, then you can shoot a spike/fork the same as any other hunter in that zone at that time and it wouldn't count against your LEH Authorization.


they only get 2 moose on LEH, so you would need 4 immys

You are half correct. They get 2 any size bulls on LEH. OR they could shoot 4 spike/forks.

The first 2 moose you shoot will have to go against your LEH. You will have a hard time explaining how you shot 2 immy's first and then droped to 50" bulls after the 2 immy's.
Nope. IF the first two bulls are 50's, that is the total for the LEH Authorization and the Harvest Report is filled out with the shooters names and other pertinent info. If a guy runs across a legal animal (spike/fork) and has a tag, and it is an open season in the LEH Authorization area, then he harvested a legal animal in a legal season. Exactly the same if he killed a 50" bull in 7B in August. Takes him out of the LEH hunt, but doesn't count against the other people in the group.
This is the reason behind the Harvest Report Form. If you kill a legal animal in a legal season for which you have a tag then you are good. And it wouldn't be hard to prove in court at all in the day of modern cell phones and digital pictures. There is NO law saying that if you have a LEH Authorization that you cannot hunt for that species in that region at a different time, or in the same zone at the same time if there is a legal season. I have a late cow elk draw, doesn't mean I can't hunt a bull earlier, OR a cow in the exact same zone earlier in the year.


Don't make this shit harder than it is by trying to misinterpret stuff intentionally.

300rum700
07-24-2020, 09:27 AM
The first 2 moose you shoot will have to go against your LEH. You will have a hard time explaining how you shot 2 immy's first and then droped to 50" bulls after the 2 immy's.


Wrong on all accounts. You can hunt a regular season with an LEH, which is what a immy season is. What you cant do is harvest another moose if you've punched your tag outside your LEH authorization and that still doesn't affect your groups shared hunt quota.

tyreguy
07-24-2020, 09:47 AM
What Reiber says is correct - If you all have tags and you're hunting in an area of a GOS you can harvest animals as designated by the LEH. But if you shoot a moose that is part of the GOS, it doesn't count against your LEH, but that tag is cut and the tagholder is done for the season. The LEH gives you an "authorized "animal which in many cases is any bull or antlerless, and if you take a GOS animal it does not count against your LEH tag
You can go out with 4 guys with a shared LEH for 2 bull moose, you can harvest 4 moose so long as at least 2 are part of the GOS.
I think the original poster's thought was that it was like an additional moose tag - a bonus with LEH that gave him another tag.
No problem explaining why 2 immature moose were shot first then 2-50" bulls - they are all legal so long as there is a General Open season for immature bulls and it is open at the time of harvest.
See a few others jumped in as well during my slow typing!!

The first 2 moose you shoot will have to go against your LEH. You will have a hard time explaining how you shot 2 immy's first and then droped to 50" bulls after the 2 immy's.

ruger416
07-24-2020, 11:41 AM
I think it also states that when one of the 4 shots a leh bull he must notify the other 3 as soon as possible. At this point the other 3 must fill in their harvest report at to who shot the bull and what date. If you don't the CO's can fine you. This one reason why they want each hunter in the group hunt to carry a radio or any other device. If 2 of the hunters arrive in camp on Friday and the other 2 on Monday they better have their reports up to date when they arrive. MURPHY'S law. The last 2 guys drive into camp and 2 big bulls are fighting in an open cut block. Both go down and they think the party is about to start. They then find out the 2 guys in camp also have a big bull down. It can happen.
A number of years ago a buddy and I both shot our leh bulls fighting along a river bank. Did our thing and went back to camp to find one of the other 2 guys had also filled his tag. Two over 40 inches and the 3rd was a spike. Got the 3rd bull back to camp, skinned and quartered at 3 the next afternoon. yep one great hunt. To tired to even think of a whickey.

HappyJack
07-27-2020, 08:45 PM
Keep it simple and leave the spike forks for the poor buggers that didn't get drawn in the LEH.

RyoTHC
07-27-2020, 09:51 PM
Keep it simple and leave the spike forks for the poor buggers that didn't get drawn in the LEH.

But I’d imagine they are as tasty as white tail fawn..

MOWITCH SLAYER
07-30-2020, 10:25 AM
​ts important to note . that once a hunter tags any moose he can no longer be allowed to participate in the hunt for another moose. but a immature bull can be tagged outside the leh