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Bustercluck
07-22-2020, 12:25 AM
There’s lots of threads on gear and I was looking at my homemade First aid kit tonight as I was throwing my gear together. I know the most important part is having training to use the stuff you have, but what are you guys packing with you?

butterfly bandages
super glue
electrical tape
clotting sponges
one Israeli type compression bandage(mine is a different brand that seems to cover a lot of bases)
Moleskins
I have a few other things, but I can’t think of them right now. I’ll post the rest when I get home.

Would Rather Be Fishing
07-22-2020, 07:12 AM
Think about what, realistically, can happen on your hunt and how you would address it. E.g. no need to pack a Tourniquet or Compression bandage if you never used one before. Many ways to skin a cat, it really only matters what you know how to use. Clotting sponges are a good example: Looks good in a movie but you actually need to know what you are doing or you do more harm than good. Butterfly bandages for example only apply in certain situations, and if it's hot and you are sweatty you actually need to think about how to clean and prep the skin before using them.

Single day/vs multi day? Distance to transportation?

Headache/Muscle ache: Painkiller
Meds as needed

Deep cut/laceration? You carry a hatchet? What if you hit your foot? What if you hit your femoral?
You roll your ankle?
Blisters.
If you roll your ankle/wrist/etc on a multi-day solo hike: Do you have a plan for how you get out? Ever tried to stabilize your own ankle in the field? Water supply?
You fall in water. Really have a plan for preventing hypothermia when you are 2 days out?
You injure yourself with your firearm?

All I am saying is: There is nothing worse than a false sense of confidence when it comes to first aid. Not important what's in your kit, it is more important that you think about what, realistically, can happen, plan it out, and PRACTISE that before you leave. Don't think "I would never cut myself with a hatchet or chainsaw" or "I would never accidentally shoot myself". Many other have made that mistake. If you only hike 3 hours from your car your kit will look very different from a week in the camp or a week long mountain solo hunt.

Becomes more interesting when you go with a partner/group: You need to talk about this stuff? Allergies? Do you know how to administer an epi pen? Do you know where it is? Do you know what kind of allergies your buddies have? What kind of meds they need?

ACE
07-22-2020, 07:22 AM
Cut a 1.5" strip/strap from a bicycle inner tube. Roll it up, and secure it with a couple of 'elastic bands' cut from the tube. Done, it's about the size of a 35mm film canister. Fits in pocket or pack. Can be used as a tourniquet, bungee, cut some off for fire starter, etc. Bike shops will give you old inner tubes.

Scance
07-22-2020, 07:34 AM
Check out ZipStitch.. for accidental knife injuries.

adriaticum
07-22-2020, 07:39 AM
Cut a 1.5" strip/strap from a bicycle inner tube. Roll it up, and secure it with a couple of 'elastic bands' cut from the tube. Done, it's about the size of a 35mm film canister. Fits in pocket or pack. Can be used as a tourniquet, bungee, cut some off for fire starter, etc. Bike shops will give you old inner tubes.


This is a good idea.
You can do the same with surgical tubing.

I think having some tylenol is good.
I took a Level 2 first aid course for the company I work for which helps (theoretically). I will renew this again when it comes up.
Good to have some anti histamine like Benadryl in case of allergies yet undiscovered.
Go through scenarios of what could possibly happen.
Cuts, bleeding, breaks, sprains, blisters, heat stroke etc.
One thing that never crosses people's minds is that if you find blood or needles scary you need to get over it.
Last thing you need is to get injured and then faint because you see blood.
Thankfully I have not had to deal with any emergencies in the field, but being mentally ready is very important.

WetLeopard
07-22-2020, 07:42 AM
That's some good, solid advice Would Rather Be Fishing. A good reminder to time filling those knowledge gaps before filling gaps in the kit.

My suggestion as a good multi-use item is Leukotape - it's kind of like your standard white athletic tape, but on steroids. It will last a week even if it gets wet, prevents blisters/heel rub, and can be used to wrap up a sprained ankle, wrist, shoulder etc. effectively with a little practice.

Ron.C
07-22-2020, 08:53 AM
Aside from very basic daily stuff ( couple Band-Aids, zincofax, moleskin, and some Pepto/Motrin/2 Aspirin ) I carry very little for F/A.

I believe it was SRUPP a couple years ago that recommended carrying 2 Aspirin to chew in the event of cardiac incident. When you think of it, few of us know someone that needed medivac or suffered a major injury requiring hospitalization in the backcountry but we all know someone who has had a heart attack. For people like me who hunt alone and are not the youngest folks in the mountains, could be life saving.

I always carry a Israeli pressure bandage(very small and versatile) in case of a bad bleed and 1/2 roll of electrical tape (so many uses).

Most importantly Communications. Cell phone or satellite device. I just upgraded from my gen 1 Spot to an Inreach mini.

Lastly, make sure you always have some way to start a fire and create some basic shelter if you are immobilized and need to wait for help.

madcalfe
07-22-2020, 09:05 AM
id loose the mole skin for some leukotape. mole skin sticks for all of 30 mins if that. been there done that.
probably dont need a compression bandage either. your probably carrying a extra shirt or clean socks than can be used along with leukotape.
superglue works wonders. if i ever nick myself with my knife just clean the area and glue it up and throw a wrap of tape around it.
Alcohol pads are good for cleaning areas if a water source inst available.

my sheep hunting kit literally fit into a little snack size zip lock.

Leukotape
half roll of electrical tape (also used to cover barrel of the gun)
couple small gauze pads
super glue (replace every season)
Advil and muscle relaxers
small tube of chapstick (luxury item haha)
chlorine tablets (for water)
alcohol pads.

the most valuable item though if something happens would be a SPOT or taking a satellite phone (i rent a sat phone every year for fly in sheep hunts. 125$ for a sat phone for 2 weeks is pretty valuable if you really need it)

blackbart
07-23-2020, 08:36 PM
Most of the old time coastal layout guys I worked with carried rather simple first aid kits while working 14 day shifts in the bush with no support vehicles.

A pill bottle or film canister packed with "weed" and they all called it their first aid kit!

mastercaster
07-24-2020, 06:56 AM
A small tube of polysporin is not a bad item to add to the list.

slowjo
07-24-2020, 07:21 AM
i have had a number of occasions when i've had multiple insect bites, stepping on a wasp nest, huge mosquito swarms, etc. so i always have lots of anti-histamine tablets. an israeli pressure bandage is a good item, as well as leukotape, self-adhering pet bandage wrap (pet supply store), large tampons for heavy bleeding, tweezers.
circumstances can change quick, even if you're a pro, just ask these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGVy55eUCkg

Bustercluck
08-08-2020, 09:44 PM
Most of the old time coastal layout guys I worked with carried rather simple first aid kits while working 14 day shifts in the bush with no support vehicles.

A pill bottle or film canister packed with "weed" and they all called it their first aid kit!
I know many guys like this. Lol. The funny part was when they said they were meeting up for a safety meeting, but they were actually meeting up to burn one.

Bustercluck
08-08-2020, 09:46 PM
Something I never really thought of until last week was I tried feeding my eleven year old some adult Advil, but he’s never had to swallow a pill before and he couldn’t overcome it.

So I had to add kids Advil to the list

2tins
08-09-2020, 04:12 AM
Hey fellas, I'll chime in hear too. I cut my leg with my chain saw a couple months back and posted up some pics and a bit of a story. The point I was trying to make then was to take measures to prevent the injuries from occurring in the first place. I know that shit happens and you can not plan or predict everything but if I had been wearing my bucking pants I would not have been cut. If you can wear PPE to do some of your hunting chores like cutting fire wood, or using an axe do it. I'm going to from now on. It would have sucked if I was in hunting camp up the river when I cut my leg with my saw. So guys and gals, be safe have fun and try to make good decisions. Good luck.

srupp
08-09-2020, 02:06 PM
Hmm to a certain extent..it's better to have it and not need it..then to need it and not have it..
ie couple 82 MG Asa.
Once basics are learned ..improvisation. .not what is in a level 2 first aid kit..what have I got that will accomplish the same task ?
this comes with experience.
No matter how prepared you are there will be times when calling in for help is the wisest decision. .do not delay that decision..
That 1st hour is referred to as the golden hour..bleed out..time is heart muscle in a cardiac event
Have a Globalstar SPOT..or Garmin INREACH..or sat phone. ..ALWAYS.
practice safe hunting skills to prevent as much as you can..
Having a $1500 trauma kit is no good if it's 100 air miles at the truck..your kit is only as good as what you always take with you.
I have seen a calm minded untrained individual do wonders with improvisation and determination.
Cheers and be careful
Srupp