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Jamesonm
04-15-2020, 06:58 PM
Hi everyone

I have a Sako 270wsm that I am looking to put a new scope on.

The rifle weighs about 6.5 lbs and I want to keep the new scope within a reasonable ratio.

I was hoping to grab a bushnell during their big sale but the lightest I like is 24 oz. and I wasnt a huge fan of the MOA deploy Christmas tree reticle.

I love researching anything outdoor gear related. I've been looking at the Swaro 3 and 5, don't know much about Leupold but have heard some negative and much more positive. Also looking at the zeiss conquest equivalent.

I know there's a huge array of options nowadays. I've been hunting for a few years and love the lifestyle. I do a combination of spot and stalk and open glassing. I would like to be able to poke out to 6 or 700 yards.

What does everyone suggest? Ideally I could find a nice used scope around 1k. I'd say 1k is my budget.

Cheers!

Citori54
04-15-2020, 07:44 PM
If you have been hunting for only a few years then I would guess you have been shooting for the same amount of time. I think at this stage looking to shoot 600-700 yards is not realistic. I have been hunting for over 50 years and in that time I have had four kills at a measured 400-450 yards. I had practiced at that distance and knew what the rifle would do, but it is not very often you will have shots at this range. Get proficient out to 400 yards, preferably shorter distances before you look at anything further. Now if you are an experienced long range shooter that is just starting out hunting that may be different. For what you are looking at a Leupold VX3i 4.5-14x 40 would be a perfect scope for that rifle. Good balance of light weight , good quality glass and adequate magnification.

porthunter
04-15-2020, 08:02 PM
Swaro glass is great, but they do lack the real long range abilities unless you step into a Z8 or X5.

I'm currently running a Zeiss Conquest V4 4-16x44, nice light weight set up that has the ability to get out there when you want to. The Leupold VX5 3-15x44 would probably be a good alternative to that, havent used one but have heard lots of good.

REMINGTON JIM
04-15-2020, 08:15 PM
Cannot BEAT a Leupold VX111 I 4.5-14 x 40 30 MM TUBE Side Focus and CDS ZL with a Duplex reticle #177861 jmo RJ




The Zeiss Conquest V4 4-16 x 44 is another Excellent scope BUT a bit Heavier and Bulkier ! RJ

Jamesonm
04-15-2020, 08:29 PM
Thanks guys super helpful!

Gateholio
04-15-2020, 08:35 PM
What you do is call Nechako Outdoors, ask for Mark, describe what you want, and he will set you up with what you need. :)

Weatherby Fan
04-15-2020, 08:54 PM
For lightweight I would look at the a Leupold VX3i 4.5-14x40 CDS 30mm tube, after that the Leupold 3-15x44 or one of my favourites the ZEISS V4 4-16x44 zero stop MOA dial, an amazing scope, tough as nails, excellent low light performance,
Talk to Mark at Nechako Sports or Omer at Precision Optics, if those two guys can’t help you no one can.

warnniklz
04-15-2020, 09:09 PM
Has anyone done a side by side of the vx-3i 2.5-8x36 an the z3 3-9x36?
"swaro is the best"... I get it. But is it worth the extra $200?

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sames14
04-15-2020, 09:55 PM
Why dont you just buy the scope "Remington Jim" is selling.

decker9
04-16-2020, 07:28 AM
Has anyone done a side by side of the vx-3i 2.5-8x36 an the z3 3-9x36?
"swaro is the best"... I get it. But is it worth the extra $200?

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my z3 3-9x36 beside my vx3 1.75-6x32, the difference is nil (besides the vx3’s heavy duplex). I’d personally take the z3 in that magnification range, I’d even spend the extra $200.

Not comparable, but my vx5hd is definitely noticeably clearer and sharper then the z3, but looks like a club on my little rifle, the first day was first love, I haven’t even shot it yet.... and I’m thinking of a divorce lol. Not a fan of the big 30mm tube.

moosinaround
04-16-2020, 08:04 AM
What you do is call Nechako Outdoors, ask for Mark, describe what you want, and he will set you up with what you need. :)
Absolutely, Mark will hook ya up, and you will be usually installing it the next day! Moosin

Ride Red
04-16-2020, 08:43 AM
Hi everyone

I have a Sako 270wsm that I am looking to put a new scope on.

The rifle weighs about 6.5 lbs and I want to keep the new scope within a reasonable ratio.

I was hoping to grab a bushnell during their big sale but the lightest I like is 24 oz. and I wasnt a huge fan of the MOA deploy Christmas tree reticle.

I love researching anything outdoor gear related. I've been looking at the Swaro 3 and 5, don't know much about Leupold but have heard some negative and much more positive. Also looking at the zeiss conquest equivalent.

I know there's a huge array of options nowadays. I've been hunting for a few years and love the lifestyle. I do a combination of spot and stalk and open glassing. I would like to be able to poke out to 6 or 700 yards.

What does everyone suggest? Ideally I could find a nice used scope around 1k. I'd say 1k is my budget.

Cheers!


For lightweight I would look at the a Leupold VX3i 4.5-14x40 CDS 30mm tube, after that the Leupold 3-15x44 or one of my favourites the ZEISS V4 4-16x44 zero stop MOA dial, an amazing scope, tough as nails, excellent low light performance,
Talk to Mark at Nechako Sports or Omer at Precision Optics, if those two guys can’t help you no one can.

Never dealt with Mark, but have with Omer. Over the phone top notch service and shipped right away. Lots of good advice from everyone, but like a couple have pointed out; you need time behind a scope to shoot any distance with confidence. I’ve hunted over 40 years and have taken many species from BC to across the prairies, but judging/knowing distance is not an easy task. From bush to prairies, visual perception changes drastically. If you don’t already have one, buy a range finder also to get your distances. My farthest reach is 500 yards for target and 300 on game, which is a long ways out. (to me anyway)
*Disclaimer* I’m not judging your inabilities, just adding my two cents for a better experience in the field.

Jamesonm
04-16-2020, 08:47 AM
Thanks everyone -- I appreciate all the constructive opinions and guidance.

My cousin and used to do a lot of long range shooting (past 1000 yards with his rifles - he has over 60). I recently moved back to Vancouver Island and haven't had a chance to shoot as much.

My ideal mag would top out at 16x.

twoSevenO
04-16-2020, 09:54 AM
I think $1000 budget is a little tight to get a proper long range setup.

Nechako did have some amazing deals on Z5 scopes a few months back. Ask if they still have any kicking around.
Pretty sure they were selling them for less than Z3 prices at the time

BgBlkDg
04-16-2020, 10:16 AM
I have and have had scores of scopes since 1964, currently have eight Zeiss, three Swaros and over a dozen Leupies plus many others.

For about a grand, you can buy a Swaro Z3 plex in 3x10x42 and the best prices on these are from Joe Camele, at Italian Sports, call him and see. I like this aa an "all around hunting" scope better than any others due to quality, WEIGHT and it just plain works.

I would go no higher than 10-12x top end for BC game hunting. I consider the Swaro Z3s to be the best practical hunting scopes available at present.

BRvalley
04-16-2020, 02:45 PM
I've owned a Z3 3-10x42 before, I liked the scope and glass was great...but the thing I did notice was the Z3 was very particular about eye relief, I feel it had a small sweet spot, much smaller compared to my leupold scopes, so I eventually sold it

I think a VX5HD in 2-10 or 3-15 would be nicely suited for what you want, retail price would be 500ish out of budget, but I've seen them used on cgn pretty close to your budget

Jamesonm
04-17-2020, 07:24 AM
Picked up a bushnell 4200 off RJ. Watch out critters!

Thanks again for everyone's input. This turned out to be a great thread and I can see it being useful for other members too.

What a great bunch of fellas!

REMINGTON JIM
04-17-2020, 07:35 AM
Shhhh ! James ! :grin: RJ