Sheep Counts

[tdot]

Are there any other sheep counts, other then the Southern Okanagan this year? I was hoping to get out and volunteer this year, but family just decided to fly into town that weekend and from the look in my wife's eyes, I'll be murdered if I leave.

[blackbart]

August 1 - October 25 Start in region 7 and finish in region 4....

[45freezer]

Are there any other sheep counts, other then the Southern Okanagan this year? I was hoping to get out and volunteer this year, but family just decided to fly into town that weekend and from the look in my wife's eyes, I'll be murdered if I leave.

Haven't heard anything about Spence's Bridge yet but that was the beginning of April last year, think there was an earlier count as well.

[pg83]

Dates for Spences are not currently confirmed, but hopefully early April.



Kamloops Lake counts are running April 5th, for more info:

Annual Spring California Bighorn Sheep and Deer count along north side of Kamloops Lake from Rousseau Creek to Ord Road area. Doug will be at the turnoff to Fredericks road at 7 am to assign areas. BBQ to follow the count Dewdrop at the standard location. Contact Doug Jury (250-573-5570) for more information on areas and data sheets if you would like to start earlier.

Highland Valley Outdoors Association from Logan Lake will be assessing the area west of Rousseau Creek west to Cache Creek Contact Ray Town(250-253-9474), Highland Valley Outdoors Club.

[twoSevenO]

Bump. Spence's bridge announced yet? I want to attend this year.

[Big Lew]

I've attended the Spences Bridge area count several times and have always wondered why it's so late in the year.
Often the hillsides have already turned green enough that the sheep are up into the hills and out of sight.
Talked to local farmers and they agree...the sheep are in and around their farms, often in large bands, till just before
the annual counts after which they break up into smaller more dispersed groups.

[REMINGTON JIM]

I've attended the Spences Bridge area count several times and have always wondered why it's so late in the year.
Often the hillsides have already turned green enough that the sheep are up into the hills and out of sight.
Talked to local farmers and they agree...the sheep are in and around their farms, often in large bands, till just before
the annual counts after which they break up into smaller more dispersed groups.

I AGREE Bud - earlier would be MUCH better ! jmo RJ

[NMO]

Not sure if it's officially confirmed but I believe Spence's count is slated for Saturday April 4th.

[pg83]

Not sure if it's officially confirmed but I believe Spence's count is slated for Saturday April 4th.

This is correct although I am still working through some things before an official announcement.

[srupp]

Hmmm doesn't really matter..the Indians have declared all those sheep are theirs anyhow....
Cheers
srupp

[pg83]

Hmmm doesn't really matter..the Indians have declared all those sheep are theirs anyhow....
Cheers
srupp


Sheep counts are about helping our biologists keep track of local herd numbers while at the same time enabling folks to get out and enjoy the animals and the landscape they call home. They are also a great opportunity for collaboration between different user groups for the benefit of wildlife.

The day that doesn't matter will be a sad one indeed, although my outlook on things differs from yours entirely it seems.

[srupp]

Sheesh. .chill..been at Spencer sheep count many times..know exactly what why where..
my comment was tongue in cheek due to almost continuous claims by indians.
Srupp

[puddlejumper]

Sheesh. .chill..been at Spencer sheep count many times..know exactly what why where..
my comment was tongue in cheek due to almost continuous claims by indians.
Srupp

Here we are again. srupp continuing to illustrate his ability to detract from a constructive conversation. Here we are trying to get a handle on when the 2020 Sheep Counts will occur for the benefit of the sheep and srupp chimes in with yet another stupid comment.

[twoSevenO]

Not sure if it's officially confirmed but I believe Spence's count is slated for Saturday April 4th.

Thank you, sir!!

[pg83]

I will post an official thread on here after the wssbc Kamloops Convention is done, but April 4th is the date.

[porthunter]

I will post an official thread on here after the wssbc Kamloops Convention is done, but April 4th is the date.

Oh boy... already getting excited! :-o

[srupp]

Here we are again. srupp continuing to illustrate his ability to detract from a constructive conversation. Here we are trying to get a handle on when the 2020 Sheep Counts will occur for the benefit of the sheep and srupp chimes in with yet another stupid comment.

And EWE can eat the peanuts out of my poop...see not stupid at all.
Do not need to demonstrate to anyone my contributions.. or constructive inputs....
If you can't handle some humour you just might be a protestor..or ¥¥¥¥₩₩₩₩¥£€.
Srupp

[puddlejumper]

And EWE can eat the peanuts out of my poop...see not stupid at all.
Do not need to demonstrate to anyone my contributions.. or constructive inputs....
If you can't handle some humour you just might be a protestor..or ¥¥¥¥₩₩₩₩¥£€.
Srupp

Now that was funny! But don't me wrong, you make very few, if any positive contributions to the most of the conversations on this forum, including your comment to this thread which was only humorous to yourself. And no I am not a protester, I just see your limited ability to effectively and proactively contribute to society as a whole, which is emphasized by your stupid comments and feel the need to point that out.

Lets count sheep!

[RyoTHC]

I will post an official thread on here after the wssbc Kamloops Convention is done, but April 4th is the date.

looks like something I’d be interested in since the real bear hunting doesn’t start until May.

[albravo2]

Now that was funny! But don't me wrong, you make very few, if any positive contributions to the most of the conversations on this forum, including your comment to this thread which was only humorous to yourself.
Lets count sheep!

If you want to keep this thread on topic it might help to refrain from criticizing one of the most popular members on the forum because it makes people like me want to defend him instead of talking about sheep counts.

Srupp has contributed time and knowledge to more hunters on this forum than anyone else I can think of, and I can think of a few amazing people that have contributed a lot.

[Bubbacanuck]

If you want to keep this thread on topic it might help to refrain from criticizing one of the most popular members on the forum because it makes people like me want to defend him instead of talking about sheep counts.

Srupp has contributed time and knowledge to more hunters on this forum than anyone else I can think of, and I can think of a few amazing people that have contributed a lot.

I was about to say this but you beat me to it. I personally have not had interactions directly with Srupp but I have seen how much he contributes and supports others on this site for quite some time.

I think some people need to just chill the f out and take some humor for what it is. Srupp is stand up and should not have to defend himself considering how much he has helped others over the years.

With that said, let's get some dates slotted and go count some sheep!

[twoSevenO]

If you want to keep this thread on topic it might help to refrain from criticizing one of the most popular members on the forum because it makes people like me want to defend him instead of talking about sheep counts.

Srupp has contributed time and knowledge to more hunters on this forum than anyone else I can think of, and I can think of a few amazing people that have contributed a lot.

X2. While you may not agree with his comment in this thread, there is no shortage of us on here who can vouch for his level of insight over the years.

He has helped many people get many animals. Puddlejumper, you're a relatively new member on here ... stick around and you WILL learn a thing or two from Srupps years of knowledge and experience.

[IronNoggin]

Now that was funny! But don't me wrong, you make very few, if any positive contributions to the most of the conversations on this forum, including your comment to this thread which was only humorous to yourself. And no I am not a protester, I just see your limited ability to effectively and proactively contribute to society as a whole, which is emphasized by your stupid comments and feel the need to point that out.


Back slowly away from both your war drum and your keyboard there chief!
You personally have not contributed even a single percentage point here of what Steve has over the years.
Until you do, put a sock in it Pocahontas.

Nog

[puddlejumper]

X2. While you may not agree with his comment in this thread, there is no shortage of us on here who can vouch for his level of insight over the years.

He has helped many people get many animals. Puddlejumper, you're a relatively new member on here ... stick around and you WILL learn a thing or two from Srupps years of knowledge and experience.

Fortunately, the number of posts a person makes does not correspond to experience when it comes to hunting. Unfortunately I don't think I would learn anything from srupp as he seriously hasn't said anything that positively contributes to hunting for sometime.

That being said, I will admit I fell into the trap when I reacted to srupps stupid comment rather than focusing on the sheep count(s) which is what I was interested in learning about when I first saw this post and to tdot I apologize.

[IronNoggin]

... Unfortunately I don't think I would learn anything from srupp as he seriously hasn't said anything that positively contributes to hunting for sometime...


Yet more arrogance? Really? :shock:

Off to the IGNORE dungeon for you then.

Nog

[boxhitch]

looks like something I’d be interested in since the real bear hunting doesn’t start until May.Bears have been spotted on the slopes at Spences during the count, but no one gets excited about running over to whack one )

[boxhitch]

I've attended the Spences Bridge area count several times and have always wondered why it's so late in the year.
Often the hillsides have already turned green enough that the sheep are up into the hills and out of sight.
Talked to local farmers and they agree...the sheep are in and around their farms, often in large bands, till just before
the annual counts after which they break up into smaller more dispersed groups.The date for the count has flexed around somewhat over the years, some more winter-like than spring
At one time the April date was chosen to fit in with other weekend commitments/club partnering/conventions/pairing with other counts/predictable weather/gun shows/ ad nauseam
It is what it is and being consistent has its value in data collecting also

[REMINGTON JIM]

Bears have been spotted on the slopes at Spences during the count, but no one gets excited about running over to whack one )

Last Year we spotted a Beauty BLOND with brown stockings - had a brown face and neck - Very Different ! Would have made a GREAT rug ! RJ

[Maglic]

Fortunately, the number of posts a person makes does not correspond to experience when it comes to hunting. Unfortunately I don't think I would learn anything from srupp as he seriously hasn't said anything that positively contributes to hunting for sometime.

That being said, I will admit I fell into the trap when I reacted to srupps stupid comment rather than focusing on the sheep count(s) which is what I was interested in learning about when I first saw this post and to tdot I apologize.

Wrong (fell into the trap again) again.
I am not sure what planet you came from.
For sure Srupp does not need me or anyone else to speak for him, but as a junior member myself, I find Srupps one of the best contributors and most valuable sources for hunting on this site. Just ask and he is there (if not i the bush).
Little bit of respect for his contribution in general would not hurt.
just tell me you are trying to be funny :)

[twoSevenO]

Fortunately, the number of posts a person makes does not correspond to experience when it comes to hunting. Unfortunately I don't think I would learn anything from srupp as he seriously hasn't said anything that positively contributes to hunting for sometime.

That being said, I will admit I fell into the trap when I reacted to srupps stupid comment rather than focusing on the sheep count(s) which is what I was interested in learning about when I first saw this post and to tdot I apologize.

It corresponds to your credibility on this site.
First of all, I doubt you have 40+ years of hunting experience like he does.
Second, you've been a member here for barely 2 years. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Just because you didnt stumble across a thread where he offers advice doesnt mean advice wasnt offered. Again, maybe stick around longer and you'll see how wrong you are.

[srupp]

Hmmm couple years ago at the Spencer bridge.seen something that surprised me..a momma bear with 5 cubs..4 black and one brown one...all in a line headed up a draw...the last one of the line was a real playful shit disturbed several times jumping on its siblings back from a sneak attack both tumbling off the trail...scrambling back onto the lineup..only to do it again..kids. .certainly the 5 cubs was a first for me ever..and the antics made me laugh out loud...mother nature is wonderful at all times..but some times she just outdoes herself .
Hmm mm as for puddle pissed. .any ing. .but not his first snipe...unfortunately both Susan and I are sick..and I don't have the time to correct his incorrect views comment on indians set him off..Hmmm mm
Oh well cesspool la vie....
Srupp

[Arctic Lake]

So I take it there is a sheep count in Spences Bridge does that include other areas in the Fraser Canyon ? Never been to one ! Do bring your own spotting scope ? What would be the minimum scope to bring ? Is this a one day thing ? Do guys bring their better half ? Sorry for all the questions !
Thanks
Arctic Lake

[bighornbob]

So I take it there is a sheep count in Spences Bridge does that include other areas in the Fraser Canyon ? Never been to one ! Do bring your own spotting scope ? What would be the minimum scope to bring ? Is this a one day thing ? Do guys bring their better half ? Sorry for all the questions !
Thanks
Arctic Lake


Bring what ever you have and whoever wants to glass for sheep.

People are usually put into groups of 3-4 people per designated zone (so numerous people dont count the same sheep. I think there is a zone from Lytton up to lilloet. nothing else up the fraser.

BHB

[srupp]

Hmm the one year I was given the road a cross the Thompson towards Merritt. .didn't see any sheep but did see deer..
I find bringing a good folding chair..thermos of coffee. .extra cup for new friends..GPS. .pen paper..warm clothes especially. .LOTS of water.binoculars, spotting scope with great tripod..lunch.
Good hat.some years sunscreen was needed.
Its a good time to check out different optics being used and why..learn from more experienced sheep hunters..some folks like Dave have come up for years from Fraser Valley..Mission area..makes for a long day.but enjoyable.
They did provide an example of class 1 class 2 class 3 rams..so you could most correctly put your find in the most correct column to make the information more reliable/ use full for the biologists.
Cheers
Srupp

[Arctic Lake]

Thank You fellas ! Steven you always add good information !
Arctic Lake

[Elkhound]

Keep it to sheep people........ I dont like digging out the old ban hammer lol

[srupp]

Keep it to sheep people........ I dont like digging out the old ban hammer lol

Hmm sorry Dad..shouldn't have mentioned the deer or 5 bears..my bad...
Thanks for your efforts and all mods.herding cats...very difficult challenge.
Appreciate you.
Srupp

[Elkhound]

Hmm sorry Dad..shouldn't have mentioned the deer or 5 bears..my bad...
Thanks for your efforts and all mods.herding cats...very difficult challenge.
Appreciate you.
Srupp

lol...... it was the bickering not the animals mentioned. But thanks Steven.

[charlie_horse]

Last Year we spotted a Beauty BLOND with brown stockings - had a brown face and neck - Very Different ! Would have made a GREAT rug ! RJ

SHHHH. but in all seriousness Jim I went back a week later and took a poke at him. I'm a bit embarrassed to say it was the first animal I've never recovered, I'm hoping he survived for me to try this year but I have my doubts.

[puddlejumper]

Hmm the one year I was given the road a cross the Thompson towards Merritt. .didn't see any sheep but did see deer..
I find bringing a good folding chair..thermos of coffee. .extra cup for new friends..GPS. .pen paper..warm clothes especially. .LOTS of water.binoculars, spotting scope with great tripod..lunch.
Good hat.some years sunscreen was needed.
Its a good time to check out different optics being used and why..learn from more experienced sheep hunters..some folks like Dave have come up for years from Fraser Valley..Mission area..makes for a long day.but enjoyable.
They did provide an example of class 1 class 2 class 3 rams..so you could most correctly put your find in the most correct column to make the information more reliable/ use full for the biologists.
Cheers
Srupp

This is great information and sincerely appreciated. Thank you!

[srupp]

Hmm mm mm
srupp

[Huntingtyler123]

I stand for Srupp ! Takes a second to realize the guy he is if you get off your high horse. I’m a new member , studied the forum and payed attention to who would respond with the most knowledge. Reached out to Steven and he welcomed me with open arms so to speak. Now I am excited to meet up with him every year.

[srupp]

So I take it there is a sheep count in Spences Bridge does that include other areas in the Fraser Canyon ? Never been to one ! Do bring your own spotting scope ? What would be the minimum scope to bring ? Is this a one day thing ? Do guys bring their better half ? Sorry for all the questions !
Thanks
Arctic Lake

this venue is a wonderful idea for many reasons...accurate precise sheep count assists biologists...
However it helps new /newer sheep hunters...first hand actually team up with other sheep hunters to see sheep on the mountains.
Learn how to glass..starting off once a sheep is spotted for newer hunters finding that sheep.that helps your history of where sheep are..that helps you decide why they are there..bedded..so that's what one bedding area looks like for bighorn. .feeding areas ..travel routes why..?
Learning how to glass correctly..across. .up down..how to use binos. Then tear every square inch of your field of view with spotting scope.
As i said earlier..a chance to try different quality levels of glass..not others opinion. .you will get a chance to see the difference.
Guys who spend thousands on gear..lots of time for years WILL share tips they have learned over the years..helps new sheep hunters with the learning curve.
an important skill is shared many times that day..once one spotter has found a sheep..how to direct his hunting partner to the same sheep..having 2 sets of peepers on a ram helps with the identification, age.legality of any given ram....every encounter spotting helps you get better..a historic reference of sheep in your mind.
Helping you evaluate where to start looking..and why...
However a warning..sheep hunting is addictive..some say a sickness..lol and for many reasons sheep hunters are for the most part a secretive bunch..often more inclined to loan out their wives and their Visa Cards no questions asked..lol rather than share sheep locations..knowledge
however at the sheep count information gained through countless decades is freely shared..
New friendships with other like minded individuals are made..
All to help evaluate the number..class of rams..ewes and lambs...
and in the process help you...winners all the way around..
srupp

[Big Lew]

Wholly agree Steven! I learned a lot from attending those counts. I also learned that cost isn't necessarily
critical in having good lens. I really enjoyed the comradery with everyone all those times I attended.
My health has prevented me lately, but you never know, I might be able to attend again.

[Arctic Lake]

Pg83 I will be looking for your thread as I hope to make it for the count .What Forum will you place it in? I know don’t know anything about wild sheep or hunting them ,but would like to contribute . I did however buy a spotting scope a few months back and would like to see how it performs . Arctic Lake
I will post an official thread on here after the wssbc Kamloops Convention is done, but April 4th is the date.

[srupp]

Pg83 I will be looking for your thread as I hope to make it for the count .What Forum will you place it in? I know don’t know anything about wild sheep or hunting them ,but would like to contribute . I did however buy a spotting scope a few months back and would like to see how it performs . Arctic Lake

Hmm what do you call a new sheep hunter?....
Sherpa. .lol..kidding

Cheers
Srupp

[tdot]

this venue is a wonderful idea for many reasons...accurate precise sheep count assists biologists...
However it helps new /newer sheep hunters...first hand actually team up with other sheep hunters to see sheep on the mountains.
Learn how to glass..starting off once a sheep is spotted for newer hunters finding that sheep.that helps your history of where sheep are..that helps you decide why they are there..bedded..so that's what one bedding area looks like for bighorn. .feeding areas ..travel routes why..?
Learning how to glass correctly..across. .up down..how to use binos. Then tear every square inch of your field of view with spotting scope.
As i said earlier..a chance to try different quality levels of glass..not others opinion. .you will get a chance to see the difference.
Guys who spend thousands on gear..lots of time for years WILL share tips they have learned over the years..helps new sheep hunters with the learning curve.
an important skill is shared many times that day..once one spotter has found a sheep..how to direct his hunting partner to the same sheep..having 2 sets of peepers on a ram helps with the identification, age.legality of any given ram....every encounter spotting helps you get better..a historic reference of sheep in your mind.
Helping you evaluate where to start looking..and why...
However a warning..sheep hunting is addictive..some say a sickness..lol and for many reasons sheep hunters are for the most part a secretive bunch..often more inclined to loan out their wives and their Visa Cards no questions asked..lol rather than share sheep locations..knowledge
however at the sheep count information gained through countless decades is freely shared..
New friendships with other like minded individuals are made..
All to help evaluate the number..class of rams..ewes and lambs...
and in the process help you...winners all the way around..
srupp

I have to admit that that right there is a large part of the reason I was planning to attend. It was all about learning. Learning what matters to the sheep, food, habitat, etc. Help the biologists make fact based decisions. Meet and talk to other sheep hunters, get some time spotting the critters.

Thanks for posting that Srupp.

But unfortunately it looks like I may be moving to Alberta on very short notice due to Covid19. But if I can time a drive through on my way, I'll stop in!

[srupp]

I have to admit that that right there is a large part of the reason I was planning to attend. It was all about learning. Learning what matters to the sheep, food, habitat, etc. Help the biologists make fact based decisions. Meet and talk to other sheep hunters, get some time spotting the critters.

Thanks for posting that Srupp.

But unfortunately it looks like I may be moving to Alberta on very short notice due to Covid19. But if I can time a drive through on my way, I'll stop in!

I think your over thinking this covid virus situation. .you just have to avoid crowds not move to the wide open badlands..lol
Alberta is wonderful great people...truly enjoy it..however we just visit..
Cheers
Srupp

[Arctic Lake]

I have to admit that that right there is a large part of the reason I was planning to attend. It was all about learning. Learning what matters to the sheep, food, habitat, etc. Help the biologists make fact based decisions. Meet and talk to other sheep hunters, get some time spotting the critters.

Thanks for posting that Srupp.

But unfortunately it looks like I may be moving to Alberta on very short notice due to Covid19. But if I can time a drive through on my way, I'll stop in!

Your moving to Alberta due to the corona virus ? I don’t get it ? Please explain
Arctic Lake

[tdot]

Your moving to Alberta due to the corona virus ? I don’t get it ? Please explain
Arctic Lake


Excessive paranoia???

Kidding. My wife is an ER Doc there and normally flies in for shift work. But as they ramp up to deal with CV19, she may no longer be allowed to fly and may have to be on call for the balance of the month. So with two infants on-hand, we'll all be moving as I can't ask her to be away from the kids for several months. Plus there is a strong possibility that many of the frontline workers in the hospital, will be at minimum put on Quarantine

Hoping that isn't the case, but we'll do what we have to do.

[tdot]

I think your over thinking this covid virus situation. .you just have to avoid crowds not move to the wide open badlands..lol
Alberta is wonderful great people...truly enjoy it..however we just visit..
Cheers
Srupp

Oh no. I'm doing something stupid. Moving from the country to a city.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Excessive paranoia???

Kidding. My wife is an ER Doc there and normally flies in for shift work. But as they ramp up to deal with CV19, she may no longer be allowed to fly and may have to be on call for the balance of the month. So with two infants on-hand, we'll all be moving as I can't ask her to be away from the kids for several months. Plus there is a strong possibility that many of the frontline workers in the hospital, will be at minimum put on Quarantine

Hoping that isn't the case, but we'll do what we have to do.

WOW ! Buddy Good Luck to you Guys ! Look after yourselves ! :wink: RJ

[twoSevenO]

Is this being cancelled on account of the virus and the fact that everything else is being cancelled and all social gatherings discouraged?

[ghost]

Is this being cancelled on account of the virus and the fact that everything else is being cancelled and all social gatherings discouraged?
Was wondering that myself Planned on going

[twoSevenO]

Was wondering that myself Planned on going

I'm contacting PG directly on Instagram.... I will let you know. Be nice to catch up with ya there for a good cause!

[pg83]

Spences Bridge Sheep Count has been cancelled.



Hoping to do some lamb counts in June, will let you all know closer to the date if it is possible.

[Darksith]

The sheep counts are cancelled. WSSBC has been in contact with local groups and they have requested we not come into their communities from around the province due to this covid 19 pandemic. WSSBC is working hard to build positive relationships with all groups that have stakes in wild sheep conservation, which includes land owners, locals etc etc. Sucks but it also makes sense and is the right decision.

[twoSevenO]

Just like we try to keep domestic sheep away from the wild .... we gotta keep ourselves away from .... ourselves