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BCHunterFSJ
01-26-2020, 11:06 AM
The land that I own is over run with wolves. Every winter I find at least one moose kill and the deer have just about disappeared completely.
The local farmers all say the same thing. Apparently there are 5 dens along the river that borders on my land and they also use the frozen river as a travel corridor. Yes, I have tried hunting them for several years with no success.
My question is: Is it possible/legal to hire a trapper to get rid of them? How would a person go about doing this?
Thanks!

LuckyHorseshoe
01-26-2020, 11:19 AM
Talk to area CO or maybe get ahold of the Bc cattleman’s association. They may know a trapper in the area

358mag
01-26-2020, 11:45 AM
Get a hold of Steve proguide66 he might be able to deal with them

tomcat
01-26-2020, 11:50 AM
Yes definitely talk to the area CO and he can put you in contact with the local trappers association contact or a specific wolf trapper.

Husky7mm
01-26-2020, 01:08 PM
The land that I own is over run with wolves. Every winter I find at least one moose kill and the deer have just about disappeared completely.
The local farmers all say the same thing. Apparently there are 5 dens along the river that borders on my land and they also use the frozen river as a travel corridor. Yes, I have tried hunting them for several years with no success.
My question is: Is it possible/legal to hire a trapper to get rid of them? How would a person go about doing this?
Thanks!

In the mean time you can trap them on your own land without a trappers licence. Just get some bait out. Easy enough to set snares, check into it. You may be able to snare them yr round on private land, consult the regs. You may be able to shoot them yr round on your land too. Check regs, we can in Alberta. Good luck, a good wolf is a dead one.

boxhitch
01-26-2020, 01:54 PM
Apparently there are 5 dens along the river that borders on my land A local trapper might be interested, if you can help with more specifics for location. Likely the area is covered by a trapline permit already.

dracb
01-26-2020, 01:58 PM
In the mean time you can trap them on your own land without a trappers licence. Just get some bait out. Easy enough to set snares, check into it. You may be able to snare them yr round on private land, consult the regs. You may be able to shoot them yr round on your land too. Check regs, we can in Alberta. Good luck, a good wolf is a dead one.

I have to call BS on the above. The appropriate clause from the synopsis states: "4. It is an offence to trap on private
property without a trapping licence and the written permission of the property owner." And yes to my certain knowledge the COS does enforce that reg when the become aware of the code infraction. By the way, there is another clause to the effect that if one does not possess a valid trapping license it is an offence to snare with woven wire snares and another the requires a licence to use wire above a specific gauge.

weekender7
01-26-2020, 06:13 PM
Check your PM

st99
01-27-2020, 08:06 AM
contact the BC trappers association, there's always trappers looking for more land to trap on

BCHunterFSJ
01-27-2020, 11:09 AM
Thanks for the responses!

Husky7mm
01-27-2020, 01:28 PM
I have to call BS on the above. The appropriate clause from the synopsis states: "4. It is an offence to trap on private
property without a trapping licence and the written permission of the property owner." And yes to my certain knowledge the COS does enforce that reg when the become aware of the code infraction. By the way, there is another clause to the effect that if one does not possess a valid trapping license it is an offence to snare with woven wire snares and another the requires a licence to use wire above a specific gauge.

That doesn’t really say the landowner can’t trap his own land, anyways if that is what it means then my bad. Thank goodness I mentioned “Check Regs”

Yuritau
01-27-2020, 02:38 PM
Prohibition within a trapline
41 a person commits an offence if the person sets a trap for, hunts, kills, takes or captures a fur bearing animal in an area of british columbia unless the person
(a) is a registered holder of the trapline for that area,
(b) has written permission of a registered holder of the trapline for that area,
(c) is the owner or occupier of the land,
(d) has written permission from the owner or occupier of the land, or
(e) holds a permit to trap that is required by regulation.

The "or" in the above list suggests you need only meet one of the listed criteria.

Fella
01-27-2020, 02:49 PM
Good luck, hope you get someone to help you out. Would be cool to hear a follow up in a few months to see how it goes.

dracb
01-28-2020, 02:09 AM
The "or" in the above list suggests you need only meet one of the listed criteria.

On the otherhand here are a few more confining clauses:

"4 .It is an offence to trap unless you have

completed a Trapper Education Program

(TEP) approved by the Director of the

Wildlife and Habitat Branch. Approved TEP

courses include those obtained in British

Columbia since July 1, 1982; from Quebec

since July 1,1988; and from the Yukon,

Alberta and Ontario since July 1, 1989."



"4. It is an offence to trap on private

property without a trapping licence and the

written permission of the property owner."


"4. It is an offence to set a trap for, hunt,

kill, take or capture a furbearing animal in
any area of the province unless you are

the registered holder of the trapline for

that area or are authorized by regulation

or permit."

dracb
01-28-2020, 02:31 AM
That doesn’t really say the landowner can’t trap his own land, anyways if that is what it means then my bad. Thank goodness I mentioned “Check Regs”

Sure, the owner can trap his private property in some cases should the owner have completed an approved trapper ed course and has a valid trapping licence for the area in question, the date is within the range of dates within which regulations permit trapping the target species, the trap set site is far enough from inhabited buildings and trapping is not otherwise prohibited by other statutes or regulations.

I learned some of this the hard way a while back when my evidentiary photos of coyote depredation included one of a a trap set by the land owner next to a sheep carcass. This photo led to immediate censure of the land owner by the COS.

Pauly
01-28-2020, 10:34 PM
My buddy owns a section up red lake way .. totally legal to trap and or shoot any preds provided enough proof of danger to live stock provided. Yah right !!! Co don’t care to much about those things.

Pauly
01-28-2020, 10:38 PM
Licence to trap not required for private .. however one must keep the neighbours dogs in mind that’s why it’s probably best to hire a trapper to come on to the property. Stump lake ranch many years ago wouldn’t let me shoot coyotes because I was competing with the trapper. Which was fine that’s how he makes his living

walks with deer
02-07-2020, 08:17 PM
Licence to trap not required for private .. however one must keep the neighbours dogs in mind that’s why it’s probably best to hire a trapper to come on to the property. Stump lake ranch many years ago wouldn’t let me shoot coyotes because I was competing with the trapper. Which was fine that’s how he makes his living

you can not legally trapp without being liscesned..

by the way you said trapping is mean! i offered to pay for your trappers course as you clearly love making predator highways. i was hoping you would drop some snares.

Pauly
02-07-2020, 11:31 PM
Lol this is fun let’s play some more

chilcotin hillbilly
02-08-2020, 07:35 AM
Unlawful to trap anywhere if you do not have a valid trappers license ...... and yes that includes private land.

Pauly
02-08-2020, 07:56 AM
Unlawful to trap anywhere if you do not have a valid trappers license ...... and yes that includes private land.
Check this out https://www.bcac.bc.ca your right and wrong check out this government web site you can circumvent the trapper licence with a permit provided you follow the rules.

Pauly
02-08-2020, 07:59 AM
I will say most big land owners I know have a way of doing things their own way to protect livestock if you know what I mean.

barongan
02-08-2020, 12:08 PM
contact the BC trappers association, there's always trappers looking for more land to trap on
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dracb
02-08-2020, 12:28 PM
Check this out https://www.bcac.bc.ca your right and wrong check out this government web site you can circumvent the trapper licence with a permit provided you follow the rules.

Would you care to point directly at the relevant passage on that web site. I am not arguing I am just curious as to what it says. Trapping can not even be found on it by using its search function.

As an aside my company has a wildlife permit that includes my property and the first part of it states I must use a licensed trapper. The permit merely allows removal of problem wildlife in places and at times when there is not an open season.It also specifies what traps may or may not be used.

I am sure that many if not most ranchers will remove predators when they have an opportunity to personally deal with one that is predating on their livestock. Depending on the circumstances they may be wise to use the SSS principals. It is interesting to note the Livestock Protection Program run by the Cattlemens Association to deal with ranchers wolf and coyote issues operates under a wildlife permit that requires its Wildlife Specialists be licensed trappers.

Pauly
02-08-2020, 12:58 PM
Would you care to point directly at the relevant passage on that web site. I am not arguing I am just curious as to what it says. Trapping can not even be found on it by using its search function.

As an aside my company has a wildlife permit that includes my property and the first part of it states I must use a licensed trapper. The permit merely allows removal of problem wildlife in places and at times when there is not an open season.It also specifies what traps may or may not be used.

I am sure that many if not most ranchers will remove predators when they have an opportunity to personally deal with one that is predating on their livestock. Depending on the circumstances they may be wise to use the SSS principals. It is interesting to note the Livestock Protection Program run by the Cattlemens Association to deal with ranchers wolf and coyote issues operates under a wildlife permit that requires its Wildlife Specialists be licensed trappers.
I probably miss interpreted the way I read it I’m no expert by any means I just know my rancher buddy takes care of the problem preds himself and has a permit to do so he may be skipping a step? I think they kinda get away with some stuff because it’s a hassle to wait for officers who never get back to you in time

BCHunterFSJ
02-08-2020, 03:06 PM
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I have tried contacting the BC Trappers Association. - no replies!

Moose63
02-08-2020, 09:20 PM
Send out the "wolf signal"!

Proguide66 is the man!

He's probably too busy though.....he's got over 100,000 followers. Congrats!!