It Boils Me To No End Regarding Wolves Numbers..

[hunter1947]

What management should be doing is concentrating on culling wolfs instead of doing proposals ,,controlling the wolves in hi populated regions is a must
ticks me off to no end that management is doing nothing to cull wolves the number one chain eaters are the main cause of the prey decline over the years:mad:..

Here is just one video I took from many on why our game animals have declined,,everywhere I hiked in my hunting area nothing but dead carcuses from wolf kills :mad:..

Link tells it all.....https://youtu.be/B2_HHZuRFs0?t=215

[RyoTHC]

I really wish it was more realistic to hunt them without a trap line. They are ghosts and it’s most unfortunate. Here I am spending every weekend sitting on the ice, fishing when I’d rather be hunting !

[hunter1947]

I really wish it was more realistic to hunt them without a trap line. They are ghosts and it’s most unfortunate. Here I am spending every weekend sitting on the ice, fishing when I’d rather be hunting !

I am headed out this week to try to call in a pack of wolves or single wolf wish me luck

[DeepJeep]

Good luck Wayne! Hope you get some

[RICKADY]

Lot and lots of luck h1947
We wanna see pic's next week
Finish that truck yet?

[djwinthehouse]

good luck darn things are crafty

[Bugle M In]

I came across numerous pelvis/partial spines of MD this season from past winter deaths.
Wolves have set up shop now for 5 or 6 years now.
Before they showed up, I might find 1 MD's remains each season ....maybe!

The amount I found this season and wolves being present was no coincidence.
H47, everyone here feels your frustration.

[hunter1947]

One of my finds from a predator kill in 2019 when scouting for elk ,deer.....https://youtu.be/KnI2qHqT9_U

[hunter1947]

One of many black bears I saw when out hunting this 2019 year....https://youtu.be/KnI2qHqT9_U

[HarryToolips]

What management should be doing is concentrating on culling wolfs instead of doing proposals ,,controlling the wolves in hi populated regions is a must
ticks me off to no end that management is doing nothing to cull wolves thes number one chain etears are the main cause of the prey decline over the years:mad:..

Here is just one video I took from many on why our game animals have declined,,everywhere I hiked in my hunting area nothing but dead carcuses from wolf kills :mad:..

Link tells it all.....https://youtu.be/B2_HHZuRFs0?t=215
I agree........

[hunter1947]

https://www.facebook.com/NBCMontana/videos/2690307577712480/

[hunter1947]

Wolf hunt for me today..

[hunter1947]

https://www.gohunt.com/read/news/former-colorado-wildlife-commissioner-says-reintroducing-wolves-is-a-bad-idea?fbclid=IwAR3MZ1ledq6cX8Bdhfzf5sJbwnUuzWf44kMb IsX4BfdiHKW9YdFTbYT-TKo

https://komonews.com/news/local/dept-of-fish-and-wildlife-moves-to-partially-dismiss-wolf-suit?fbclid=IwAR30QfbOFzhfQOwMlv1OBS7oL7hC_vogvmct _wLhyQuRShrWpNxRfydmpjU

[hunter1947]

Been out 3 times in the past two weeks trying to bag a wolf no luck so far

[LBM]

[QUOTE=hunter1947;2142979]Wolf hunt for me today..[/QUOT

Did you see any or tracks.

[hunter1947]

[QUOTE=hunter1947;2142979]Wolf hunt for me today..[/QUOT

Did you see any or tracks.

No have not found any tracks from wolves..

I will keep going to new areas till I do find wolf tracks it's like hunting for prey animals a person keeps going to new places till they find sign of tracks etc..
The problem here in the low land areas there is so much private property a person can't go where they would like to hunt for wolves..

[hunter1947]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZvIKqdti5Q&fbclid=IwAR0hoJtacC-1XVxUXoGuPq-dWQUfrrUc3FSIpVBH5VOSyxxtrFUtUtxqWrc

https://www.facebook.com/jc.outdoors.1/photos/pcb.361984967314843/361984913981515/?type=3&__tn__=HH-R&eid=ARAJ-KZUH_2Y1GRHupF_xdV3yIHj0WpHLMpXCHJzkabUR_tz41M7dRO n4RPR5NfvTkfjHjoT_y2mafh4&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARD3ghztdb0XwJNBEDCPFePS23qhD7Xp w_KnVtmYnK4eBrH3cKBKoN-8OQYBxe2LuqTiD9av1DGfxk_3KxSLxqKMoDFbplwyuZsShHCKA pSR2BpE78O0Lz0_7_5i9Qe1gU_rrWLywJs8FTHijMNqA65JK-gUZUxcweK_tIqA63U_jT5QRxqR8zqsHhmopfl6iIBEgU4umW39 Cv-8FpCymoBY2w-v3_3CL3XxCrEVQKy04HFbVrGBc6Mk6DY4vgd7DmXmTq7rR3HDI FTjXHNUNPO7iEEvXQJuEyddL1e9ckTxTCKn9G_NT-eC1svO8Yl2X9IzNTCGlkdTm8vC7WsDsPV0HeXjK3UyxnSh4OGL qujcm5I

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[xlcc]

hunter1947,if you have a sled you can ride the logging roads you can't drive your truck on and you can cover a lot of ground in a day.Keep looking,talk to the ranchers and the COs.They will be happy to help you find wolves.
We just got a dump of snow so the tracks will be fresh.I will go hunting tomorrow for wolves.
I'm glad you are trying,good luck.

[walks with deer]

I really wish it was more realistic to hunt them without a trap line. They are ghosts and it’s most unfortunate. Here I am spending every weekend sitting on the ice, fishing when I’d rather be hunting !

wow dude lots of spots to find wolves right know...

the deep snow and ice is making it crazy out there for the ungulates...if you got time to ice fish you got time to hunt dogs..

get out there...mulies will be concentrated search around them

[RackStar]

There comes a point in winter where you just need a sled... unfortunately i don’t own one, so my access is very limited. 4 feet of snow in the bush, have fun walking.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

With deep non-compacted snow, they will travel plowed roads, packed sled trails and frozen rivers.

Should narrow things down a bit at the moment

SSS

[browningboy]

I wave my fist at them, really frightens them!

[hunter1947]

https://www.rmef.org/elk-network/why-a-forced-colorado-wolf-introduction-is-a-bad-idea/?fbclid=IwAR2GOGMLUwVMcCZjgUc-RekPSewHUqm2BPbuKNsAioFPTOStk7eEqOPMRqg

[GreyDog]

The elk population in Colorado, a state less than half the size of BC, is somewhere around 280,000 elk. That's roughly 7 times as many as in B.C. There can be little doubt that one jurisdiction does a better job of managing elk herds than the other. Here, in the east Kootenay, populations have decreased by over 50%; not because of wolves. GD

[hunter1947]

https://www.idahostatesman.com/outdoors/hunting/article239544568.html?fbclid=IwAR2I38xOhGHRYefAjjh gmIFkgdx2m9hc_XhTHHxHRpbOFfxyx5AeDmyq15o

[hunter1947]

https://www.facebook.com/ConservationOfficerService/photos/a.740244636017090/3549358538439005/?type=3&eid=ARDxRAXrILND8Xp5Lk5sNDH2XFMRtIe2Us29o0nMi7Ksgc KgMWkDdwR6eGoPgMvZNO6SQqpc2JV-qig9&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARDDr_l_U_a4FZBsVmUYA1q6F8JgRMeg u-nsA1zxOeKnYvpocbh7z3yph1ot795g0oT9zNGHGQRUSnKadIGY r8Dmc5SDEYlutJ3Hhde5CLmUJ-QXUuMqp1kHK1wg1UKw7D9XoQw1460N5z7Dr_APVjOK6lQyFImf PQKpM-fYZgLxJYvDE0IgjDytBFlhhSRUr-dBfcNRXBsP38ux7f6QFFniYPuqxftUekAwqwE_kV6YtXv1nlfx cTLCGjX31wiOqNLQ-ioZNS-C2G8Bl6h5-MVY69WGjafxJ4XNKJNSKU6BTsuDqv8925eLCYGILen6wQ7bwKb G_yxMJZsM2xds7uPFe8ahBwJI24aW_rSunzK065nTY59qYcat&__tn__=EHH-R


https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.montanaoutdoor.com%2F2019 %2F08%2Fbanff-national-park-shut-down-after-wolf-attack-on-camper%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR2_Nax1sljnT-Tl3eNzXPQu622HnmLbTdyIonNlSiWZtrIWBsSlA8bfAYo&h=AT1Dx9KOAdhNmYqcXXXh4AlNcKgZmwe0i00xtyVKxK3ZAHJc gX5QTMKHUcNeZgvxajMJHlWa7stn0pPA7Z7Kn3Q8wcNauCh_3o TBl6tN50gnGNczXzcANDmxr-mMBbR35QD_pSvaqQWoUHA4VeASEaSGQqF5M97H9NmnWQ

[303savage]

Many years ago I was surrounded by a pack of wolves all howling. That made my hair stand up . Another time I shot one in a pack of about ten and the rest went out of sight and started to howl.

[Stroodle]

Was out 2 times this weekend - giving the new call a try - learned I could call in crows and eagles like the best of them, but no luck on the dogs...yet!

[hunter1947]

https://www.facebook.com/ConservationOfficerService/photos/a.740244636017090/3552152161492976/?type=3&eid=ARCZUYTRarvKDN5B91U0KQ1LUeGQ9RfLcMl1emkrsOU1OY eNYioST5fckVzpSsHtqgKP8riPLiSRZGKb&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARDKShtXMiCZs8qlQcfoiH2b4Ta0aHOO Idebb-1P_rVcPtwIzhudXWxq_V_lUzEW47w33o3_GlD6b-YcHNDRwOloXrH9t2yVcR2VJ-QaB6EOC72_U8aGgkMk6K1boGMwVIcH05mWSAfmY0J3ZxgXl4Kk ykAqpcmdAqSEEkkVVpbWvBhmEVesrx1bXmhg21ez-5ZhRn7tLcHv-eHecE97EFNLjAV-Syj-4HkDlawrjcfcSP6UKspooQGS5BxwtI0_KGSUql3IKISFrwqX6q u6MITAW0q5YXI_MpXxvW9huFqxITjVQvNrNh5suCmWJPry4Hj1 RZ-hKnsX9Up75-Am0YXKGd-WztUUgzaGKu6MhIAq0JYW0QsuialH&__tn__=EEHH-R

[chilcotin hillbilly]

You know the thing most of my non resident hunters say is "where are all the wolf hunters? If this was Idaho, or Wyoming we would see a few hunters everyday if not dozens of hunters"
In my opinion I think resident hunters need to do more and not just rely on government to do the job. Every wolf helps.

[hunter1947]

https://newsradio1310.com/hunters-wanted-willing-to-trap-idaho-wolves-and-get-paid/?fbclid=IwAR2-V8KPc2zJ7E0soAIHNAz4M5U1FrtPAEXteosLDgrvy59lr-_Ri5HeFBU

[hunter1947]

https://www.abbynews.com/news/critically-low-caribou-population-prompts-wolf-cull-in-the-chilcotin/?fbclid=IwAR0XIp_UbBepBqL_dzwSTdgVRSAGzvBELUuRcQtY Iezq4h99t1aLs1jj6B8

[LBM]

Been out 3 times in the past two weeks trying to bag a wolf no luck so far
Have you been out any more or seen any sign on your shed hunts.

[hunter1947]

https://nywolf.org/2019/12/blind-betrayal-bc-government-uses-collared-wolves-to-kill-entire-wolf-families/?fbclid=IwAR0RRaHGdMde3CqrwaR8k7o97mkw2rNvsM4pZqdU 6g-NMUgiM-l_HkHsUEE#.Xje8_zPiUoI.facebook

[LuckyHorseshoe]

Wow that website makes me sick

[REMINGTON JIM]

https://nywolf.org/2019/12/blind-betrayal-bc-government-uses-collared-wolves-to-kill-entire-wolf-families/?fbclid=IwAR0RRaHGdMde3CqrwaR8k7o97mkw2rNvsM4pZqdU 6g-NMUgiM-l_HkHsUEE#.Xje8_zPiUoI.facebook


More " Idiots " who think there ALWAYS right - :mad: RJ

[boxhitch]

With deep non-compacted snow, they will travel plowed roads, packed sled trails and frozen rivers.

Should narrow things down a bit at the moment

SSSRain has made the snow almost impenetrable around here, 20-25" supports 220+ lbs, one out of ten steps breaks through
Dog and cat track everywhere, deer limited to trails, not a good scenario

[Piperdown]

https://nywolf.org/2019/12/blind-betrayal-bc-government-uses-collared-wolves-to-kill-entire-wolf-families/?fbclid=IwAR0RRaHGdMde3CqrwaR8k7o97mkw2rNvsM4pZqdU 6g-NMUgiM-l_HkHsUEE#.Xje8_zPiUoI.facebook

Frickin joke, did you folks notice mailing address NY... So i thought i would send them a message and explain why this is a brilliant idea for once from our govt, hell even told them that it saves a ton of money so hopefully we can accomplish more. I also sent them some real nice pictures of wolves that were harvested by myself and a few friends for their viewing pleasure and also told them to F Off and stick to their own Country and State....still waiting for a reply.

[scott h]

The elk population in Colorado, a state less than half the size of BC, is somewhere around 280,000 elk. That's roughly 7 times as many as in B.C. There can be little doubt that one jurisdiction does a better job of managing elk herds than the other. Here, in the east Kootenay, populations have decreased by over 50%; not because of wolves. GD
A big difference between Colorado and BC is their amount of aspen. While they understand that elk and deer need winter feed, BC pretends like eating isn't important for elk. In BC aspen is seen as a weed and sprayed extensively with "Round Up", and as a result our ungulate numbers continue to drop. If you were out hunting for elk, would you be looking in an area with lots of feed (aspen/willow), or a solid pine monoculture ????The western states have such high game numbers because they work to improve their forests by aggressively thinning conifers to promote aspen habitat while in BC exactly the opposite occurs. Our government requires forest companies to kill off aspen groves if they are bigger than a certain size. BC's forestry regulations does what it can to starve our herds and promote large fires. The end result is that BC has smaller and smaller herds every year and bigger and bigger fires. I think BC sprayed 16000 hectares of aspen last year and will do the same this year. American game managers would not believe what happens up here. They have been spraying yearly since the 70's, about the same time our game numbers started to drop. There is absolutely no reason why BC can't have the same or higher game numbers per acre as the best of the rocky mountain states. Everyone jumps on the wolf population when in fact it's the forest companies and government that is really causing the dramatic drop in numbers.
https://www.rmef.org/elk-network/elk-population-falling-in-british-columbia/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btgV_ONUPmI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btgV_ONUPmI)
https://csfs.colostate.edu/colorado-forests/forest-types/aspen/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/it-blows-my-mind-how-b-c-destroys-a-key-natural-wildfire-defence-every-year-1.4907358

[GreyDog]

A big difference between Colorado and BC is their amount of aspen. While they understand that elk and deer need winter feed, BC pretends like eating isn't important for elk. In BC aspen is seen as a weed and sprayed extensively with "Round Up", and as a result our ungulate numbers continue to drop. If you were out hunting for elk, would you be looking in an area with lots of feed (aspen/willow), or a solid pine monoculture ????The western states have such high game numbers because they work to improve their forests by aggressively thinning conifers to promote aspen habitat while BC exactly the opposite and actively does what it can to starve our herds and promote large fires. The end result is that BC has smaller and smaller herds every year and bigger and bigger fires. I think BC sprayed 16000 hectares of aspen last year and will do the same this year. American game managers would not believe what happens up here. They have been spraying yearly since the 70's, about the same time our game numbers started to drop. There is absolutely no reason why BC can't have the same or higher game numbers per acre as the best of the rocky mountain states. Everyone jumps on the wolf population when in fact it's the forest companies and government that is really causing the dramatic drop in numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btgV_ONUPmI
https://csfs.colostate.edu/colorado-forests/forest-types/aspen/
I agree with this. We have put too much effort into growing pine for the forest companies and too little effort into looking after wildlife habitat and wildlife in general. Add to this the groups which are actively anti-elk (like the cattlemen) and those who demend access over all and we are not helping wildlife any. GD

[scott h]

I agree with this. We have put too much effort into growing pine for the forest companies and too little effort into looking after wildlife habitat and wildlife in general. Add to this the groups which are actively anti-elk (like the cattlemen) and those who demend access over all and we are not helping wildlife any. GD

It's really an embarrassment for a land base as large and diverse as BC , that our game populations are as low as what they are. Our numbers of hunters drop every year mostly in response to the worsening numbers of game animals. We've let our province turn into nothing more than a pine plantation, that frequently just burns anyways.

[hunter1947]

https://idfg.idaho.gov/form/2020-wolf-proposals?fbclid=IwAR0vS5RWda22Yh5CIgHJgDJvOG2KVi0 c_33THRZAIcP1StoOXoNoY2RLJwU

[scott h]

https://idfg.idaho.gov/form/2020-wolf-proposals?fbclid=IwAR0vS5RWda22Yh5CIgHJgDJvOG2KVi0 c_33THRZAIcP1StoOXoNoY2RLJwU

Interesting that Idaho borders BC, is only 20% the size of BC, and yet has 400% more elk than BC. Yes they are looking at controlling wolves, BUT they (like all elk states) actively work to keep their aspen trees thriving specifically for their wildlife value. BC on the other hand has been poisoning off aspen trees for decades and trying to put the decreasing elk, deer and moose numbers onto the number of wolves. Our ungulate numbers have been falling for a long time, certainly longer than the recent increase in wolf numbers. By all means go out and hunt wolves, but unless BC forestry practices change, it won't make any difference......
https://www.rmef.org/elk-network/RMEFgrantstoBenefitIDElkPopulation/

[MontyLake]

Interesting that Idaho borders BC, is only 20% the size of BC, and yet has 400% more elk than BC. Yes they are looking at controlling wolves, BUT they (like all elk states) actively work to keep their aspen trees thriving specifically for their wildlife value. BC on the other hand has been poisoning off aspen trees for decades and trying to put the decreasing elk, deer and moose numbers onto the number of wolves. Our ungulate numbers have been falling for a long time, certainly longer than the recent increase in wolf numbers. By all means go out and hunt wolves, but unless BC forestry practices change, it won't make any difference......
https://www.rmef.org/elk-network/RMEFgrantstoBenefitIDElkPopulation/

For Christ's sake Scott, stop making sense.

[LBM]

Interesting that Idaho borders BC, is only 20% the size of BC, and yet has 400% more elk than BC. Yes they are looking at controlling wolves, BUT they (like all elk states) actively work to keep their aspen trees thriving specifically for their wildlife value. BC on the other hand has been poisoning off aspen trees for decades and trying to put the decreasing elk, deer and moose numbers onto the number of wolves. Our ungulate numbers have been falling for a long time, certainly longer than the recent increase in wolf numbers. By all means go out and hunt wolves, but unless BC forestry practices change, it won't make any difference......
https://www.rmef.org/elk-network/RMEFgrantstoBenefitIDElkPopulation/

Yes and you will never convince most of this, they see a wolf, cat, or bear track and that's all they think of and blame, and most doing this are not even out there enough to have a clue what is going on.
Yes there is some areas in B.C. that may have wolf issues but lots don't. We have yet to find a wolf kill this year, lots of human kills and the wolves are feeding on some of those, and come spring or fall
when others find the bones the first thing they will say is killed by predator but its not the case.

[hunter1947]

https://www.realtree.com/the-realblog-with-stephanie-mallory/get-paid-to-trap-wolves-in-idaho?fbclid=IwAR1h9pq9YDj6L-4qAE-vBsFHyJSkcKW2WnXNbVw7xQNyHWMXLvUdD8SLxsM

[hunter1947]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/wolf-patrol-fort-simpson-1.5455324?fbclid=IwAR26wwjpaL_jRTqW-Yphlj1Cg7MqjSvzLS-Ijef3XuxhkE7lXoVrJT7UKyo

[99Solutions]

Same thing is happening in Manitoba. They make your big game tag able to take a Wolf in addition to the animal the tag applies to, but it isn’t sufficient to decrease the population to manageable numbers. They are decimating the big game species in some areas.
It takes 14-19 deer per year, per wolf. With only about 7-8 wolves in a pack, that’s a lot of deer for a modest number of canines. The tracks are everywhere, and so are the remains of their kill. But the actual big game animals have been reduced significantly in many areas.

[stinkyduck]

Interesting that Idaho borders BC, is only 20% the size of BC, and yet has 400% more elk than BC. Yes they are looking at controlling wolves, BUT they (like all elk states) actively work to keep their aspen trees thriving specifically for their wildlife value. BC on the other hand has been poisoning off aspen trees for decades and trying to put the decreasing elk, deer and moose numbers onto the number of wolves. Our ungulate numbers have been falling for a long time, certainly longer than the recent increase in wolf numbers. By all means go out and hunt wolves, but unless BC forestry practices change, it won't make any difference......
https://www.rmef.org/elk-network/RMEFgrantstoBenefitIDElkPopulation/


I remember posting about the forestry poisoning aspen trees, just to have a bunch of bone heads here jump all over me!!

[stinkyduck]

Yes and you will never convince most of this, they see a wolf, cat, or bear track and that's all they think of and blame, and most doing this are not even out there enough to have a clue what is going on.
Yes there is some areas in B.C. that may have wolf issues but lots don't. We have yet to find a wolf kill this year, lots of human kills and the wolves are feeding on some of those, and come spring or fall
when others find the bones the first thing they will say is killed by predator but its not the case.

LBM what makes you the EXPERT??

[Pauly]

I had a biologist tell me once that wolves have very little impact on ungulate numbers in healthy ecosystems (eg) mature timber, steep terrain, blowdown. In other words good escape terrain and cover. He also said that the increase in preds is directly linked to our activity on the landscape. Logging is what brought in the moose logging is what artificially bumped up the deer population in the 50s and 60s. ... moderate logging that is I mean selective logging of fir the pine and spruce back in the day was considered garbage and piled and burnt. I know because my grandfather had a portable mill operating in and around Kamloops in the 50s and 60s. But now we’ve altered the land scape to such a point that it now benefits the predators. In other words we’ve gone to far in the other direction. Argue all you want but we created this problem and until our forests return to a moderate state of growth you won’t see predators numbers drop... but they will drop on their own given time. But in the mean while we’re going to be waiting a long while for that to occur. It’s unfortunate but it’s the truth. We over log we over fish we over harvest all in the name of greed. We need to get rid of the attitude of if I don’t do it someone else will, do I may as well do it!!! Just my two cents but I’m sure some one will slam me for speaking the truth and I’m fine with that

[MontyLake]

LBM what makes you the EXPERT??

That's funny.

Every other beer parlour biologist chimes in but as soon someone provides another opinion you jump on him?

[Pauly]

That's funny.

Every other beer parlour biologist chimes in but as soon someone provides another opinion you jump on him?
I resemble that remark lol I’m getting thirsty now! Thanks a lot .. lol

[Walking Buffalo]

I had a biologist tell me once....

How could this biologist possible know that is correct?

Since the bad whit man came to North America, when have wolves not been kept at a minimum number, except for in very recent times?

Why have large National Parks, Banff and Jasper for example, seen huge prey population collapses (90%) after wolves returned in numbers despite having untouched habitat and minimal human disturbance, and these prey populations are staying depressed for decades now.

This biologist was just making stuff up.

Remember, and EVERY biologist must know this, there is No such thing as Balance in Nature....

[Pauly]

How could this biologist possible know that is correct?

Since the bad whit man came to North America, when have wolves not been kept at a minimum number, except for in very recent times?

Why have large National Parks, Banff and Jasper for example, seen huge prey population collapses (90%) after wolves returned in numbers despite having untouched habitat and minimal human disturbance, and these prey populations are staying depressed for decades now.

This biologist was just making stuff up.

Remember, and EVERY biologist must know this, there is No such thing as Balance in Nature....
The game has no where to go in those places because of human habitation and highways easy pickings for preds ... vehicle collisions kill more game than hunting and preds every year

[Spy]

Well my understanding from what I’ve read and been told. Is that on Van Island logging/over logging/ bad logging practices, had a huge role to play in the explosion of wolf numbers and the crash in the deer pop.

[Spy]

Well my understanding from what I’ve read and been told. Is that on Van Island logging/over logging/ bad logging practices, had a huge role to play in the explosion of wolf numbers and the crash in the deer pop.

Have we learned anything?

[hunter1947]

Have we learned anything?

I agree logging opening up back roads excess helps big time for wolfs to run the roads areas whee I hunt here in the EK new roads from logging practices the roads a covered with wolf tracks traveling the roads

Videos tells all.https://youtu.be/Zvp_GKRGD8k

..This video clip is taken on an old logging road that has been there as long as I can remember over 50 years old wolves travel the old roads https://youtu.be/B2_HHZuRFs0

[Spy]

I agree logging opening up back roads excess helps big time for wolfs to run the roads areas whee I hunt here in the EK new roads from logging practices the roads a covered with wolf tracks traveling the roads

Videos tells all.https://youtu.be/Zvp_GKRGD8k

..This video clip is taken on an old logging road that has been there as long as I can remember over 50 years old wolves travel the old roads https://youtu.be/B2_HHZuRFs0
Wow quite the video well done and thanks for bringing this to our attention. Someone needs to send this to the Ministry..

[Spy]

On second thoughts they will probably want to make it a park..

[Walking Buffalo]

The game has no where to go in those places because of human habitation and highways easy pickings for preds ... vehicle collisions kill more game than hunting and preds every year

The game has no where to go in Banff and Jasper National Park?

You say this and still expect people to believe what you say?

[Pauly]

The game has no where to go in Banff and Jasper National Park?

You say this and still expect people to believe what you say?
Blah, blah, blah lol

[GreyDog]

So, I just watched a video of a bunch of wolves, taken by a guy who is upset about the number of wolves in the Kootenays, yet I hear no rifle shot and see no wolf drop. What gives? GD

[hunter1947]

So, I just watched a video of a bunch of wolves, taken by a guy who is upset about the number of wolves in the Kootenays, yet I hear no rifle shot and see no wolf drop. What gives? GD


Something did happen later on after the Video clip was taken ,,I got out of my truck with my video camera and started to shoot the wolves with the video camera LOL ,,leave it up to your imagination on what Video camera tool I used to film these wolves ??? ..


Here is a wolf I shot two years ago he is now on my wall...http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/1357.jpg


.................................................. ...............................http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/2245.JPG

This wolf was inspected two years ago in Cranbrook the wolf was a two year old Male..

[Walking Buffalo]

Blah, blah, blah lol

Smartest thing you've said yet.... :)

[Pauly]

Smartest thing you've said yet.... :)
I know.. right lol

[hunter1947]

https://www.idahostatesman.com/outdoors/hunting/article240478736.html?fbclid=IwAR26rJA1GOjCFR9431l 1E_FeaPmcnhnesscfBuAnBCgblLg5TSgMX026wKs

[hunter1947]

https://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/hunting/2012/11/how-hunt-wolves-wolf-hunting-tips-and-tactics-experts/?fbclid=IwAR3GcZpzcciMYer5MnZOyAx3d5BEUL9JJI1l6C0K qZl0zR0o1egYelo4AKA

[decker9]

Spent a few days out goat hunting with my gal last weekend, was hard to concentrate on goats when there was fresh wolf sign on our tracks every day. It was obvious we needed to change our hunt plans a bit, a winter goat will have to come another day.

my gal making a 450 yard shot look easy. All I told her was, “you got 36” of bullet drop”, she did the rest.

https://youtu.be/7KjhxR-ZfpA

[pg83]

Spent a few days out goat hunting with my gal last weekend, was hard to concentrate on goats when there was fresh wolf sign on our tracks every day. It was obvious we needed to change our hunt plans a bit, a winter goat will have to come another day.

my gal making a 450 yard shot look easy. All I told her was, “you got 36” of bullet drop”, she did the rest.

https://youtu.be/7KjhxR-ZfpA

Not sure how many times I watched that on IG already, don't see animals tip over like that every day. What a great shot she made!!

[Piperdown]

Spent a few days out goat hunting with my gal last weekend, was hard to concentrate on goats when there was fresh wolf sign on our tracks every day. It was obvious we needed to change our hunt plans a bit, a winter goat will have to come another day.

my gal making a 450 yard shot look easy. All I told her was, “you got 36” of bullet drop”, she did the rest.

https://youtu.be/7KjhxR-ZfpA

Awesome video and shot, can i ask what she was shooting and why such a huge drop at 450 yards

[decker9]

Awesome video and shot, can i ask what she was shooting and why such a huge drop at 450 yards

Hey thank ya!

She was shooting my mountain rifle, a lightened up 6.5 swede in a T3. I’m not real familiar with many drops, except on the couple rifles I use. I shoot 140 gr accubonds, with a 19 1/2” barrel, my load uses 1 grain over max load (reloader 22).

I’m zeroed for 200 yards, does 36” seem like lots of drop for that distance? I really don’t know, I just know that’s where I hit with my set up consistently at 450.

[Piperdown]

Hey thank ya!

She was shooting my mountain rifle, a lightened up 6.5 swede in a T3. I’m not real familiar with many drops, except on the couple rifles I use. I shoot 140 gr accubonds, with a 19 1/2” barrel, my load uses 1 grain over max load (reloader 22).

I’m zeroed for 200 yards, does 36” seem like lots of drop for that distance? I really don’t know, I just know that’s where I hit with my set up consistently at 450.

Ok thanks for that i am no specialist on this, my rifle is an xbolt, 7mm rem mag, i shoot 150 gr barnes ttsx, zero 3 inches high at 100, 2.9 inches high at 200, approximately 1 inch low at 300, used barnes calculator for this when they had one you could use at it was spot on, for 400 i think it is 9 inches of drop, still hell of a shot and job well done :)

[gcreek]

Spent a few days out goat hunting with my gal last weekend, was hard to concentrate on goats when there was fresh wolf sign on our tracks every day. It was obvious we needed to change our hunt plans a bit, a winter goat will have to come another day.

my gal making a 450 yard shot look easy. All I told her was, “you got 36” of bullet drop”, she did the rest.

https://youtu.be/7KjhxR-ZfpA

Well done!!!

[nature girl]

Spent a few days out goat hunting with my gal last weekend, was hard to concentrate on goats when there was fresh wolf sign on our tracks every day. It was obvious we needed to change our hunt plans a bit, a winter goat will have to come another day.

my gal making a 450 yard shot look easy. All I told her was, “you got 36” of bullet drop”, she did the rest.

https://youtu.be/7KjhxR-ZfpA

Now that was awesome.

[Spy]

Great shot......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KjhxR-ZfpA&feature=youtu.be

[finngun]

Well done...why it looks bullet hitting snow first..maybe im wrong...but main thing is dead dog..great.f..g

[Spy]

It does look like it. I was not going to say anything lol seen way too many threads go South lol....

[decker9]

I scrolled through it a lot on pause on my phone, I can’t see where you fellas see it? No hard feeling by me if it did hit snow, I just can’t see what your seeing.

I did have the spotter zoomed in a bit, so the bullet /vapour trail enters the screen from the bottom of the view. I was set up about 5’ higher just behind the shooter, not sure if that makes it look different? I can slow mo the bullet from when it enters the screen until it hits the wolf, the only snow I see is from his feet tipping over.

[Spy]

I scrolled through it a lot on pause on my phone, I can’t see where you fellas see it? No hard feeling by me if it did hit snow, I just can’t see what your seeing.

I did have the spotter zoomed in a bit, so the bullet /vapour trail enters the screen from the bottom of the view. I was set up about 5’ higher just behind the shooter, not sure if that makes it look different? I can slow mo the bullet from when it enters the screen until it hits the wolf, the only snow I see is from his feet tipping over.

Not knocking the shot or anything dead wolf is all that matters. Like i said lets not concetrate on the shot it was great,and lets not make this thread about that...

[butcher]

That, sir, is a cool vid.

they don’t get more dead than that. When the tail starts doing the helicopter like that.... perfect CNS shot.

[180grainer]

I scrolled through it a lot on pause on my phone, I can’t see where you fellas see it? No hard feeling by me if it did hit snow, I just can’t see what your seeing.

I did have the spotter zoomed in a bit, so the bullet /vapour trail enters the screen from the bottom of the view. I was set up about 5’ higher just behind the shooter, not sure if that makes it look different? I can slow mo the bullet from when it enters the screen until it hits the wolf, the only snow I see is from his feet tipping over.
Thought it hit snow first too and played it slow. It's a vapor trail. The snow doesn't change in front either. Should be a ditch. That's a good shot. Dog didn't know what hit him.

[Goose]

That was one of the coolest hunting shots ive seen. Well done!!!

[finngun]

decker9 was that neck spine shot?:smile:...dead in no time,,great,,

[decker9]

Thanks all!

Finngun, the shot was a tad hight, clipped the front shoulder and exited out the spine.

[boxhitch]

Perfect shot, you know the brain is interrupted when the only thing twitching is the tail
Sux about the goating though. No time left?

[hunter1947]

Great shot......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KjhxR-ZfpA&feature=youtu.be

Nice going on putting this wolf down ,,big congrats to you..

[boxhitch]

........I’m zeroed for 200 yards, does 36” seem like lots of drop for that distance? I really don’t know, I just know that’s where I hit with my set up consistently at 450.Seems about right . depends on load.
Tough to judge 36" at that range, she did good

[180grainer]

Spent a few days out goat hunting with my gal last weekend, was hard to concentrate on goats when there was fresh wolf sign on our tracks every day. It was obvious we needed to change our hunt plans a bit, a winter goat will have to come another day.

my gal making a 450 yard shot look easy. All I told her was, “you got 36” of bullet drop”, she did the rest.

https://youtu.be/7KjhxR-ZfpA
What caliber?

[decker9]

What caliber?

She used my 6.5 swede with 140 gr accubonds

[LBM]

Spent a few days out goat hunting with my gal last weekend, was hard to concentrate on goats when there was fresh wolf sign on our tracks every day. It was obvious we needed to change our hunt plans a bit, a winter goat will have to come another day.

my gal making a 450 yard shot look easy. All I told her was, “you got 36” of bullet drop”, she did the rest.

https://youtu.be/7KjhxR-ZfpA

Congrats to your girlfriend neat looking colors on that wolf as well. This is what can happen when your actually out there hunting in B.C., instead of living on the computer worrying about whats going on in Idaho, montana Alaska califorina etc
Good luck on the goat hunt if you get out again.

[Timbow]

Congratulations to your gal on a fine shot on that wolf. Very interesting markings on that one.