your chance to give input to 2020-2022 hunting reg changes

[Brno22F]

In case you were not already aware

There are a pile of proposed changes to the next version of the hunting regs.
Some apply province wide and others are specific to individual MU's
Here is a link to the govt website where you can give your input to these proposed changes.
https://apps.nrs.gov.bc.ca/ahte/hunting

Let them know your thoughts.

[IronNoggin]

Always good to have a reminder or two...

http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?155883-Hunting-regulation-change-consultation

Cheers,
Nog

[280 77]

How do we find out what the exact proposal's are ? For instance the first one just says "precision guided firearms " nothing else . What is the Proposal and how do we find out?

[IronNoggin]

How do we find out what the exact proposal's are ? For instance the first one just says "precision guided firearms " nothing else . What is the Proposal and how do we find out?

Click on the highlighted Title and all will be revealed...

Nog

[280 77]

Thank you , very much and Merry Christmas
Cheers

[303savage]

So what is a precision guided fire arm?

[Brno22F]

So what is a precision guided fire arm?
Some new, must have super technology.
Not really sure myself but I think it may be the offspring of the Smart-bomb.

[Brno22F]

I was wrong- It is Star wars technology.
Here is the description from the proposed reg change.

Current Regulations:
There are currently no regulations that prohibit Precision Guided Firearms for the purpose of hunting.


Proposed Regulations:
Prohibit the use of Precision Guided Firearms, which act as a range finder and condition sensor (i.e. wind speed/direction, humidity, temperature, distance, target movement, etc.), automatically adjusting the reticle such that a hunter simply needs to depress the trigger, lock on to the target, and the firearms discharges automatically.

[LuckyIfYouGetOne]

In case you were not already aware

There are a pile of proposed changes to the next version of the hunting regs.
Some apply province wide and others are specific to individual MU's
Here is a link to the govt website where you can give your input to these proposed changes.
https://apps.nrs.gov.bc.ca/ahte/hunting

Let them know your thoughts.

Great information thanks!

Quick question..How do you “let them know your thoughts” I clicked on link and started reading proposed changes but am unsure how to actually send my input on specific proposed changes

[IronNoggin]

Quick question..How do you “let them know your thoughts” I clicked on link and started reading proposed changes but am unsure how to actually send my input on specific proposed changes

Top left of the screen when looking at the proposals: Login Button. Click

Sign in with your BC Hunter Credentials (pretty well everyone has these by now)

Then you will given the opportunity to vote whatever way you feel towards the proposal.

Following that you will be offered a comment section.

Cheers,
Nog

[LuckyIfYouGetOne]

Great thanks!!!


Top left of the screen when looking at the proposals: Sign In Button. Click

Sign in with your BC Hunter Credentials (pretty well everyone has these by now)

Then you will given the opportunity to vote whatever way you feel towards the proposal.

Following that you will be offered a comment section.

Cheers,
Nog

[BCHunterFSJ]

Can't find a Sign In button...

[huntingfamily]

Directions on how to comment can be found here:

https://apps.nrs.gov.bc.ca/ahte/

[IronNoggin]

Can't find a Sign In button...

My Bad. It is a LOGIN Button. Was relying on an aging memory here... :lol:

Go to this page: https://apps.nrs.gov.bc.ca/ahte/hunting

Bar Header directly under the BC Logo.

Fourth (and last) item in header bar: Login.

And away you go...

Cheers,
Nog

[BCHunterFSJ]

I must be going senile...
I've read all the proposals.
Have logged in - entered my BCeID.
Still nowhere to comment on the individual proposals!!

[IronNoggin]

... Still nowhere to comment on the individual proposals!!

At the bottom of each and every individual proposal's page, there are three buttons: Support Neutral Oppose.
Pick your poison and click.

You can't actually comment until, after you do that...

Then a dialogue box will open up below those three buttons providing the opportunity to give them hell.

Cheers,
Nog

[BCHunterFSJ]

Finally got it and made some comments!
Thanks to all who helped...

[Cyrus]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/proposed-hunting-regulations-bleak-picture-wildlife-1.5403401

No mention about wolves and other predators being an issue....no mention of unregulated fn hunting either. Too political for the politicians...

[Nailknot85]

So how likely are each of these regulation changes to go through with or without the support of the hunting public?

[Brno22F]

So how likely are each of these regulation changes to go through with or without the support of the hunting public?

The last time they did this for the 2018-2020 regs, the proposal to shorten the GOS for moose in Region 6 from 1 week to 3 days was in there. Actually, they proposed 2 options for that reg change. The other, if I recall, was a 2 week GOS with the spike fork/10 pt , tri-palm antler restrictions. I am not sure if the most votes won or not, but I recall supporting the antler restriction proposal because it gave folks more time and opportunity to hunt. Obviously I didn't get my choice.

The 3 day GOS has certainly reduced the number of hunters from elsewhere in the province coming to the southern MU's of Region 6 for a moose hunt. Hardly worth the trip from Lower Mainland for a 3 day hunt. Now the areas farther north (Iskut, Dease Lk) are seeing increased pressure.

[Brno22F]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/proposed-hunting-regulations-bleak-picture-wildlife-1.5403401

No mention about wolves and other predators being an issue....no mention of unregulated fn hunting either. Too political for the politicians...

Check out the proposed caribou hunt closure in zone 6-27 and the rationale for it. FN hunting features prominently in that rationale.
Comments by those who have responded are strongly opposed.
A very divisive issue and the proposed reg change only adds to the problem

[steve-r]

Has anyone been able to enter comments in the past few days? I was able to enter some comments last week, then tried again a couple days ago and the website message said they were down for maintenance.
that message is gone and i can log in fine, it will let me vote, but will not open a comment box.
ive emailed them to report the problem.
common issue? Or just my browser? Thx

[Piperdown]

7000 thousand elk in the trench, f*ck me how many years ago was it that the ranchers were crying about too many elk so lets have a cow season, the govt doesn't have a clue

[BCHunterFSJ]

Most of the Region 7 proposals seem to be there in order for first nations to have greater opportunities to harvest the moose and elk they need for food and ceremonial purposes. As far as I am concerned they already have more opportunities than the rest of us do.
I hope that a lot of our members are commenting on the proposals. Remember there is a deadline for submissions!

[REMINGTON JIM]

Most of the Region 7 proposals seem to be there in order for first nations to have greater opportunities to harvest the moose and elk they need for food and ceremonial purposes. As far as I am concerned they already have more opportunities than the rest of us do.
I hope that a lot of our members are commenting on the proposals. Remember there is a deadline for submissions!

Indians are ALWAYS going to trump us for Opportunities - Especially with the NDP- john WHOREGAN bowing down to them ! :twisted: jmo RJ

[steve-r]

It seems that the website allows a comment to be entered on an item once, but there is no ability to go back and update your comment.
I am opposed to the proposed restriction of scopes on crossbows during archery season. This is elitist behaviour by those using compound bows, especially when there is no discussion of banning the technology available to compound bow users to increase accuracy such as this new electronic rangefinding pinsite from Garmin. https://buy.garmin.com/en-CA/CA/p/613654
the proposed reg change wording expresses concern about targeting game out to 100 yards. This device advertises ranging game to 100 yards, and reflective targets to 300 yards.
You cannot stop the use of technology to harvest game if its not a level playing field for all users.

[Knute]

Just finished commenting on many of these proposals and encourage everyone to take the time to do so.

[russm]

So what is a precision guided fire arm?

Self adjusting scopes, basically point and kill whatever youre shooting at even if youre a horrible shot, takes the need to have any sort of skill out of hunting

[russm]

A GOS for bison because they're being seen outside of LEH boundaries, it would be nice to actually have a chance to hunt them without a limited entry but what's bad about having more bison? Just because they're expanding we have to knock them back down?

[b72471]

Read some of the proposals and haven't figured out how to leave comments, anyway I'm sure they don't bother to read them.
The one on archery being moved to LEH because of cross bows??? Some provinces have moved cross bow out of archery season, could do that here and leave archery season alone.

[Piperdown]

Read some of the proposals and haven't figured out how to leave comments, anyway I'm sure they don't bother to read them.
The one on archery being moved to LEH because of cross bows??? Some provinces have moved cross bow out of archery season, could do that here and leave archery season alone.
Hhmmm so how old are you, how long have you bow hunted?? I'll let you in on a little thing called age, when one gets older and the body is not what it used to be it is nice to adapt and maybe pick up a crossbow to still enjoy the thrill of the chase, get in close to try and harvest a fine animal, but hey that's ok enjoy it while you are young because you won't have the opportunity when you get old.

[huntingfamily]

Read some of the proposals and haven't figured out how to leave comments, anyway I'm sure they don't bother to read them.
The one on archery being moved to LEH because of cross bows??? Some provinces have moved cross bow out of archery season, could do that here and leave archery season alone.

It's a good thing you can't comment with that attitude.
Leave hunter opportunity alone and deal with wildlife management!

[b72471]

Well, age probably older than you. attitude that changed a long time ago. I hunt B.C. & Alberta. Alberta has move crossbows out of archery season. I'm thinking it's only for archery season, regular season you can use the scoped up cross bow, if you choose.
I'm also agreeing with the elimination of trail cams during hunting season. On private land these cams give no cover for game and has changed the whole concept of fair chase.

[303savage]

definition of a precision guided firearm "

[swampthing]

definition of a precision guided firearm "

This one has me concerned! Some government officials feel a rangefinder is a "guided firearm"!!

[IronNoggin]

The response from the BCWF is actually a quite underwhelming:

This, from the Fed's home page, doesn't look much like a rebuttal of the crossbow proposal to me. In fact, it appears somewhat defensive of their actions which leads me to believe they voted in favor of this BS:

"Regulation Proposal: “Prohibit the use of scopes on bows during bow-only seasons”

We have been hearing from members concerned with one of the proposals in the hunting/trapping regulation engagement process regarding the elimination of scopes on bows during bow-only seasons.

The proposal that was discussed at the Provincial Hunting and Trapping Advisory Team’s subcommittee on “hunting methods” was to “regulate electronic, magnifying, or telescopic sights on short range weapons (bows) during special weapon seasons.” Government has chosen to modify the intent of the proposal and to focus on crossbows in their posting on the engagement website and the accompanying rationale.

The BCWF supports the use of archery/bow-only seasons as a means of increasing hunting opportunities. The focus of the hunting methods sub-committee, when discussing this proposal, was to maintain archery-only hunting seasons that include crossbows. The committee is not a decision-making body and only provides advice to government regarding hunting methods.

Government is in the process of reviewing and updating the hunter harvest questionnaire and the BCWF has asked for the government to collect more data on hunting methods, whether it be vertical bows, crossbows or rifles.

The scopes regulation proposal is posted, and input from the public will ultimately influence the outcome.

Here is the link to the proposed regulations regarding crossbows apps.nrs.gov.bc.ca/ahte/content/scopes-bows-during-bow-only-seasons (https://apps.nrs.gov.bc.ca/ahte/content/scopes-bows-during-bow-only-seasons)

Remember, you will need your BCeID number to comment."

bcwf.bc.ca/hunting-and-trapping-regulations-engagement-open/ (https://bcwf.bc.ca/hunting-and-trapping-regulations-engagement-open/)

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I sat on this a few days while I waited for the Fed to get back to me on the matter. After having reached out to the Fed (again) I sadly got nothing but crickets in return. From the above, and their lack of response (weeks) it appears that they are fine with this, and so have lost any chance of my support at this time whatsoever.

The government continues it's shenanigans on all proposals. you can vote and comment, but you cannot see, nor alter your own comment, nor anyone else's. Many believe this is being done so they can say the majority of the public sided in favor of their suggestions, when in fact that may well not be the case. Getting tired of all the ass-covering going on here...

Regards - Matt

[fluffybuffalo71]

Yes, yes we do! Don't get me wrong, the chance to hunt and even see these beasts in the wild is incredible but they are non-native and heavy on resources. It's the same as letting a bunch of beef cattle into your favourite hunting spot......which they already do and isn't OK in my books! I don't really think a GOS is the answer here though, instead extend Bison LEH draws into other areas. From the other parts of the article regarding moose cut backs in the same area I assume this might be an appeasement to some moose hunters? Of course there is always something to be said for animals that thrive in ever changing habitat.......

[Citori54]

Made comments online, fairly simple process. I am opposed to the banning of scopes on cross bows during archery season - no valid wildlife management reason. Modern compound bows have as much range as a crossbow, and scopes may result in better shot placement which could lead to quicker/cleaner kills with fewer wounded animals. Opposed to Pink Mountain closures. Made the point that reduced opportunities through closures, reduced seasons, LEH and antler restrictions have failed to this point. The issue IMHO is unregulated harvest, predation and habitat loss. I stated that conservation of wildlife populations should be a concern for all users regardless of race. Any closure if imposed should apply to all groups and any initiatives proposed to improve fair chase must be observed by all users e.g. infrared optics and pit lamping. I also stated that government must collect harvest data from all groups including FN or data is worthless.

[fluffybuffalo71]

They're not picking on actual rangefinders, instead they're looking to ban the super expensive scopes that have rangefinding and targeting capabililty, an item that only people with really big pockets can afford. I think a lot of hunters here don't realize how many people are dropping into BC and just looking to kill things, money is no object. A number of these proposed bans are targeting those kind of people.

[Yuritau]

This one has me concerned! Some government officials feel a rangefinder is a "guided firearm"!!

Reaching a bit there..

[Hunting guy]

curious what people’s overall thoughts are on the changes? Looks like a pile of restrictions or amendments to recent restrictions.

[IronNoggin]

curious what people’s overall thoughts are on the changes? Looks like a pile of restrictions or amendments to recent restrictions.

Largely government overreach.
Being firmly supported by those who do not wish to see the "general public" afforded anything like an opportunity.

Nog

[simonvancouver]

No but if you read between the lines on one of the region 6 moose questions it mentions the rationale behind it is too many moose being taken but resident hunters didn't take there full quota (14 out of 17 or something like that) but there is too many moose being harvested. Now i am not going to blame anyone or anything as i dont know the actual facts, it could be poachers , wolves, cougars or legally taken by FN, but too many, but interesting how it is worded.

[simonvancouver]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/proposed-hunting-regulations-bleak-picture-wildlife-1.5403401

No mention about wolves and other predators being an issue....no mention of unregulated fn hunting either. Too political for the politicians...

No but if you read between the lines on one of the region 6 moose questions it mentions the rationale behind it is too many moose being taken but resident hunters didn't take there full quota (14 out of 17 or something like that) but there is too many moose being harvested. Now i am not going to blame anyone or anything as i dont know the actual facts, it could be poachers , wolves, cougars or legally taken by FN, but too many, but interesting how it is worded.

[huntingfamily]

Last day today to comment on the proposed hunting regulation changes!

[Harvest the Land]

Thanks for the reminder. Still had a few proposals that I wanted to comment on, which I just finished doing. Found it interesting that they seemed to have changed the website so we can't see others' comments? Or is it just me? Some of these proposals are so brutal they just epitomize the concept of a solution looking for a problem.

Can't stand Wilkinson but at least the Libs should restore and protect our hunting rights, which is what is most important to me. No way in hell I will ever vote BCNDP again - like never ever ever ever ever! The next election can't come soon enough.

[Thunderstix]

No matter what I do I cannot get to the comments page. I am logged in, but when I click on a link it keeps taking me to a page where they want me to register, so attempt it, thinking this is a step in the process, but when I click update it says my email address is already being used....ugh.....been trying since Wednesday.

[horshur]

Did not see any of the proposed changes as too loathsome..