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SemperAurum
12-19-2019, 02:20 PM
What is the current status of the permit to accompany program? Has this program been restricted or cancelled?

I read about all kinds ridiculous regulation proposals that do nothing to enhance wildlife numbers and am wondering.

Wild one
12-19-2019, 02:23 PM
What is the current status of the permit to accompany program? Has this program been restricted or cancelled?

I read about all kinds ridiculous regulation proposals that do nothing to enhance wildlife numbers and am wondering.

All the information you need is in the hunting regs

limit time
12-19-2019, 02:23 PM
You can e mail the government ya know .

SemperAurum
12-19-2019, 02:31 PM
When one considers the low ungulate numbers and the predator problems in BC, a restrction or curtailment would be a sensible way to reduce harvest without affecting resident hunter opportunity. Especially in 7-50 and region 4 for elk.

Ride Red
12-19-2019, 02:41 PM
What is the current status of the permit to accompany program? Has this program been restricted or cancelled?

I read about all kinds ridiculous regulation proposals that do nothing to enhance wildlife numbers and am wondering.


When one considers the low ungulate numbers and the predator problems in BC, a restrction or curtailment would be a sensible way to reduce harvest without affecting resident hunter opportunity. Especially in 7-50 and region 4 for elk.

What does one have to do with the other??? Are you looking for permit to accompany or resident hunter opportunity? You sound like Andrew Weaver.

IronNoggin
12-19-2019, 02:41 PM
When one considers the low ungulate numbers and the predator problems in BC, a restrction or curtailment would be a sensible way to reduce harvest without affecting resident hunter opportunity. Especially in 7-50 and region 4 for elk.

Get over yourself.

Nog

Ron.C
12-19-2019, 02:47 PM
The permit to accompany are not automatic. I have gotten a permit to host my brother in law for Vancouver Island Spring Bear, but was denied a permit for Reg 4 mule deer. I inquired and was told the poulations of GOS mule deer the MU's I wanted to hunt were low and thats why my permit was denied.

SemperAurum
12-19-2019, 02:49 PM
What does one have to do with the other??? Are you looking for permit to accompany or resident hunter opportunity? You sound like Andrew Weaver.


I have Weaver bases on my go to elk gun. I am not looking for a permt to accompany.

I am simply asking if consideration has been given to cancelling or curtailing the program?

seems to me to be a great way to reduce harvest without affecting BC resident opportunty - especially in areas of low elk numbers and high predation such as 7-50 or 4-1 thru 100.

Semp

upperleftcoaster
12-19-2019, 02:55 PM
I'm looking forward to the opportunity to invite my buddy over from Ontario to enjoy hunting here. As well, i get to go there once in a while. I've been a resident of both provinces. Nice that we can share in Canada...

it's already an application, so if conservation is a problem, they can simply deny...what needs to change?

835
12-19-2019, 03:13 PM
I googled your handle Semper, seems its a name of a race horse.... latin.... wonder if your a Trojan Horse?

Wild one
12-19-2019, 03:31 PM
When one considers the low ungulate numbers and the predator problems in BC, a restrction or curtailment would be a sensible way to reduce harvest without affecting resident hunter opportunity. Especially in 7-50 and region 4 for elk.

Very few use the program and permit will not be approved if it’s deemed a species or species in a location that area is deemed too low of a population. So no bighorn, lots of caribou, and some MT goat areas will not be approved

Don’t worry that hosted hunter will also pay a large trophy fee beyond all the cost of non res tags and license so it generated way more $ than if you took that animal

warnniklz
12-19-2019, 03:32 PM
I googled your handle Semper, seems its a name of a race horse.... latin.... wonder if your a Trojan Horse?

Always gold... stay golden pony boy

835
12-19-2019, 03:41 PM
Always gold... stay golden pony boy

and there was that.... lol.

whognu
12-19-2019, 03:50 PM
i was away........aimlessly, and sad to say fruitlessly, chasing whitey...........


yet while away, i might have missed something of utmost importance and interest


question: did the mods initiate a contest (with excellent prizes) for the member that opened the most new threads and carried on in the most unproductive and inane, antagonistic way possible?

cuz if they did, i want in

yet the racehorse might have already built an insurmountable lead........

xo

Yuritau
12-19-2019, 04:01 PM
i was away........aimlessly, and sad to say fruitlessly, chasing whitey...........


yet while away, i might have missed something of utmost importance and interest


question: did the mods initiate a contest (with excellent prizes) for the member that opened the most new threads and carried on in the most unproductive and inane, antagonistic way possible?

cuz if they did, i want in

yet the racehorse might have already built an insurmountable lead........

xo

I think this is my new favorite post on these boards.

SemperAurum
12-19-2019, 04:07 PM
I googled your handle Semper, seems its a name of a race horse.... latin.... wonder if your a Trojan Horse?

Oogle by Google. Big giant Trojan condom man I am

SemperAurum
12-19-2019, 04:09 PM
If the elk are not there, it is with great despair, that i advise the Big G to deny deny deny.

SemperAurum
12-19-2019, 04:17 PM
My only concern rests with the recovery of the ungulate population in this province. I have lived here all of my life and hunted all of my life. 60 plus years of hunting. Same goes for salmon.

I have never been so sad about anything as the current state of this province.

LBM
12-19-2019, 04:21 PM
What is the current status of the permit to accompany program? Has this program been restricted or cancelled?

I read about all kinds ridiculous regulation proposals that do nothing to enhance wildlife numbers and am wondering.

Heard its being cancelled now Wild one will not be able to come back to B.C. to hunt.

Wild one
12-19-2019, 05:12 PM
Heard its being cancelled now Wild one will not be able to come back to B.C. to hunt.

I only plan on doing a little fishing with family well visiting so no worries. I can’t think of a hunt I could do in BC under the host program that would be worth the extra money these days. Definitely no lack of friends and family want to come here to hunt though

Strange why could that be lol

Ferenc
12-19-2019, 05:15 PM
My only concern rests with the recovery of the ungulate population in this province. I have lived here all of my life and hunted all of my life. 60 plus years of hunting. Same goes for salmon.

I have never been so sad about anything as the current state of this province.

Maybe you should take up Blacktail deer Huntin if your looking for something challenging to hunt .....

BgBlkDg
12-19-2019, 05:17 PM
I would like to see it expanded so I could "guide" some of my American cousins whose parents and GFs were born in Nelson. I also have friends living in the US who were born in Canada, and it should be automatic for their approvals.......has not been thus far.

SemperAurum
12-19-2019, 05:44 PM
Always gold... stay golden pony boy

Roger that....the outsiders.....golden ponyboy....socs vs. greasers

Gateholio
12-19-2019, 08:26 PM
i was away........aimlessly, and sad to say fruitlessly, chasing whitey...........


yet while away, i might have missed something of utmost importance and interest


question: did the mods initiate a contest (with excellent prizes) for the member that opened the most new threads and carried on in the most unproductive and inane, antagonistic way possible?

cuz if they did, i want in

yet the racehorse might have already built an insurmountable lead........

xo


That post is actually Gold. ;)

SemperAurum
12-19-2019, 08:51 PM
Very few use the program and permit will not be approved if it’s deemed a species or species in a location that area is deemed too low of a population. So no bighorn, lots of caribou, and some MT goat areas will not be approved

Don’t worry that hosted hunter will also pay a large trophy fee beyond all the cost of non res tags and license so it generated way more $ than if you took that animal


I agree. Thanks for the input. With regards to the tag,license, and trophy fees on a per animal basis: Yes, a successful accompanied hunter does drop a few more shekels into the black hole for sure.

But the lowly resident hunter who lives in BC and hunts regularly spends a fortune on fuel, booze, chew, motor oil, antifreeze, tires, and speeding fines and the tax and fee portion of those expenditures also goes into the black hole.

Brno22F
12-19-2019, 09:10 PM
What is the current status of the permit to accompany program? Has this program been restricted or cancelled?

I read about all kinds ridiculous regulation proposals that do nothing to enhance wildlife numbers and am wondering.

The Permit to Accompany program is alive and well. I have used it for the past 2 years to accompany my brother on a hunt moose.
There is a very good description of the program on the Gov't website https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/sports-culture/recreation/fishing-hunting/hunting/permit-to-accompany
It is only available in areas where there is a general open season.
If there are concerns about ungulate populations, the govt biologists will apply LEH , reduced open seasons, antler restrictions or some other form of limitation.
Eliminating the permit to accompany program will not effectively manage ungulate populations in my opinion.
There are other methods that government could implement, for example predator control, that would have far greater impact on populations of deer/moose/elk/sheep/caribou

Pauly
12-19-2019, 09:16 PM
Are you still guiding for sheep in Lytton and spences bridge? Or did the C.O finally catch up with you?

Pauly
12-19-2019, 09:19 PM
Semper ? I’m curious

SemperAurum
12-19-2019, 10:35 PM
Are you still guiding for sheep in Lytton and spences bridge? Or did the C.O finally catch up with you?

Never, ever worked as a guide. I leave that to the licensed perfessunals. I have never hunted for sheep in Lytton or Spences Bridge. A Bridge Too Far......... Only Koots, Fraser, northern rockies, and Rat a Tat.

I prefer goat hunting over sheep hunting. Much less douchiness in the goat patch. Goat hunters are the real mountain men.


Semp

REMINGTON JIM
12-19-2019, 10:51 PM
Oogle by Google. Big giant Trojan condom man I am


A LOT of SIMILARITY to JELVIS showing up ! :smile: RJ

thick
12-19-2019, 11:54 PM
It’s funny, I think I may have ran into semper a couple years back on the mountain. I came around a corner and there he was standing in the middle of the road having a budweiser and some haggard looking sandwich staring towards the ditch line. Once I stopped, and assessed the situation, I realized his old Big red trike was flipped over on its side in the ditch.

Apparently he was cruising at a good clip looking for a big elk for his buddy he was accompanying from out of province. Well he came around the corner a little hot and was leaning into it as he should but then his lunch shifted on the front rack and caused the old gal to roll. He had 4-5 days worth of lunch stuffed into his one day serving pouch and it spilled all over. Upon my arrival there were at least 6 sandwiches strewn all over, lettuce, cheese, ham all over the mainline. 6 or 7 of them pep and ched sticks, 3 or 4 packs of fig newtons and a half carcass from one of them rotisserie birds you get from superstore along with a half container of the heart attack macaroni salad which he was still pecking at with his sandwich.


‘Woah son,’ I said, you alright big fella? ‘Sure am,’ just caught a stone the wrong way which bucked me off. ‘Your rifle okay? I said. What rifle? Well you’re hunting aren’t you? Then the squirming happened, um ooh ahh, well actually I am accompanying my friend from outta province. I’m not actually hunting, I’m accompanying my friend on a permit to accompany. Just one friend I asked? Based on the lunch size, I figured there had to be a small army in tow looking for their tenderized sandwich and finger food rotisserie chicken appy fresh with mainline dirt for seasoning. Nope, just me and him he insisted, well there were enough Budweiser all road-Rashed up across the road for at least 4 men but ol semper sure looked thirsty.


I helped him get the ol trike upright again prior to heading out. It had a real nice sheep hide seat cover. Apparently it was from a spences bridge ewe.


Alas it was time for me to carry on down the road. I bid farewell to him and wished him a good remainder of the season with his accompanying crew.


Fast forward 5 days and I was on my way out of the valley and wouldn’t you know it, I run into him again. He was trying to load up the trike and the ol gal got a little rammy on him and he put her up top the cab of his little D50 Datsun pickup. The trike was still running, teetering on the cab and semper was lying in the box slightly stunned. Turns out he had ran outta sandwiches and decided to have a liquid lunch that day which ultimately led to the loading issue. I was trying to leave but he kept rambling on about all his adventures up the muskwa for elk accompanying buddies, talking about radio code and what piperdown meant and how to squeeze a full elk into a suitcase if you only took the prime cuts. I started to get a little uneasy with what I was all hearing so I helped the big fella roll over in the box so he didn’t swallow his tongue and I turned off the trike for him so he would have enough gas to go wheeling with his buddies that evening. Anyways, that was the last I seen of what I think may have been ol semper and I’m glad to hear he is still carrying on carrying on.... Soar high eagle, soar high....

REMINGTON JIM
12-20-2019, 12:52 AM
WOW ! Thats quite the Storey ! :smile: RJ

Piperdown
12-20-2019, 07:05 AM
I googled your handle Semper, seems its a name of a race horse.... latin.... wonder if your a Trojan Horse?

I too did the same but it came back as Jackass, so we are close on that. Thick that is one of the best posts ever on HBC, i owe you a beer my friend if we ever meet.

GEF
12-20-2019, 07:37 AM
Angry Jelvis has entered the site .Or is it Rocko ?

Ride Red
12-20-2019, 07:43 AM
It’s funny, I think I may have ran into semper a couple years back on the mountain. I came around a corner and there he was standing in the middle of the road having a budweiser and some haggard looking sandwich staring towards the ditch line. Once I stopped, and assessed the situation, I realized his old Big red trike was flipped over on its side in the ditch.

Apparently he was cruising at a good clip looking for a big elk for his buddy he was accompanying from out of province. Well he came around the corner a little hot and was leaning into it as he should but then his lunch shifted on the front rack and caused the old gal to roll. He had 4-5 days worth of lunch stuffed into his one day serving pouch and it spilled all over. Upon my arrival there were at least 6 sandwiches strewn all over, lettuce, cheese, ham all over the mainline. 6 or 7 of them pep and ched sticks, 3 or 4 packs of fig newtons and a half carcass from one of them rotisserie birds you get from superstore along with a half container of the heart attack macaroni salad which he was still pecking at with his sandwich.


‘Woah son,’ I said, you alright big fella? ‘Sure am,’ just caught a stone the wrong way which bucked me off. ‘Your rifle okay? I said. What rifle? Well you’re hunting aren’t you? Then the squirming happened, um ooh ahh, well actually I am accompanying my friend from outta province. I’m not actually hunting, I’m accompanying my friend on a permit to accompany. Just one friend I asked? Based on the lunch size, I figured there had to be a small army in tow looking for their tenderized sandwich and finger food rotisserie chicken appy fresh with mainline dirt for seasoning. Nope, just me and him he insisted, well there were enough Budweiser all road-Rashed up across the road for at least 4 men but ol semper sure looked thirsty.


I helped him get the ol trike upright again prior to heading out. It had a real nice sheep hide seat cover. Apparently it was from a spences bridge ewe.


Alas it was time for me to carry on down the road. I bid farewell to him and wished him a good remainder of the season with his accompanying crew.


Fast forward 5 days and I was on my way out of the valley and wouldn’t you know it, I run into him again. He was trying to load up the trike and the ol gal got a little rammy on him and he put her up top the cab of his little D50 Datsun pickup. The trike was still running, teetering on the cab and semper was lying in the box slightly stunned. Turns out he had ran outta sandwiches and decided to have a liquid lunch that day which ultimately led to the loading issue. I was trying to leave but he kept rambling on about all his adventures up the muskwa for elk accompanying buddies, talking about radio code and what piperdown meant and how to squeeze a full elk into a suitcase if you only took the prime cuts. I started to get a little uneasy with what I was all hearing so I helped the big fella roll over in the box so he didn’t swallow his tongue and I turned off the trike for him so he would have enough gas to go wheeling with his buddies that evening. Anyways, that was the last I seen of what I think may have been ol semper and I’m glad to hear he is still carrying on carrying on.... Soar high eagle, soar high....



Wow, now that’s creative writing. Hmmmm, if I could have written like that in school my teacher wouldn’t have yelled at me. Can’t wait to see a hunting story written by you 👍👍👍

Wild one
12-20-2019, 07:49 AM
It’s funny, I think I may have ran into semper a couple years back on the mountain. I came around a corner and there he was standing in the middle of the road having a budweiser and some haggard looking sandwich staring towards the ditch line. Once I stopped, and assessed the situation, I realized his old Big red trike was flipped over on its side in the ditch.

Apparently he was cruising at a good clip looking for a big elk for his buddy he was accompanying from out of province. Well he came around the corner a little hot and was leaning into it as he should but then his lunch shifted on the front rack and caused the old gal to roll. He had 4-5 days worth of lunch stuffed into his one day serving pouch and it spilled all over. Upon my arrival there were at least 6 sandwiches strewn all over, lettuce, cheese, ham all over the mainline. 6 or 7 of them pep and ched sticks, 3 or 4 packs of fig newtons and a half carcass from one of them rotisserie birds you get from superstore along with a half container of the heart attack macaroni salad which he was still pecking at with his sandwich.


‘Woah son,’ I said, you alright big fella? ‘Sure am,’ just caught a stone the wrong way which bucked me off. ‘Your rifle okay? I said. What rifle? Well you’re hunting aren’t you? Then the squirming happened, um ooh ahh, well actually I am accompanying my friend from outta province. I’m not actually hunting, I’m accompanying my friend on a permit to accompany. Just one friend I asked? Based on the lunch size, I figured there had to be a small army in tow looking for their tenderized sandwich and finger food rotisserie chicken appy fresh with mainline dirt for seasoning. Nope, just me and him he insisted, well there were enough Budweiser all road-Rashed up across the road for at least 4 men but ol semper sure looked thirsty.


I helped him get the ol trike upright again prior to heading out. It had a real nice sheep hide seat cover. Apparently it was from a spences bridge ewe.


Alas it was time for me to carry on down the road. I bid farewell to him and wished him a good remainder of the season with his accompanying crew.


Fast forward 5 days and I was on my way out of the valley and wouldn’t you know it, I run into him again. He was trying to load up the trike and the ol gal got a little rammy on him and he put her up top the cab of his little D50 Datsun pickup. The trike was still running, teetering on the cab and semper was lying in the box slightly stunned. Turns out he had ran outta sandwiches and decided to have a liquid lunch that day which ultimately led to the loading issue. I was trying to leave but he kept rambling on about all his adventures up the muskwa for elk accompanying buddies, talking about radio code and what piperdown meant and how to squeeze a full elk into a suitcase if you only took the prime cuts. I started to get a little uneasy with what I was all hearing so I helped the big fella roll over in the box so he didn’t swallow his tongue and I turned off the trike for him so he would have enough gas to go wheeling with his buddies that evening. Anyways, that was the last I seen of what I think may have been ol semper and I’m glad to hear he is still carrying on carrying on.... Soar high eagle, soar high....



Now that sounds believable lol

SemperAurum
12-20-2019, 07:51 AM
Semper Semper with a bad temper........smokes the weed to do his dirty deed.....packs a lunch to feed a bunch.....rides high towards the sky.......makes it last a little longer with Big Red.




Big Red Semp with a bad temp

butcher
12-20-2019, 08:04 AM
What the actual fck is going on here?

Wild one
12-20-2019, 08:08 AM
What the actual fck is going on here?

don’t even try to understand just roll with it lol

SemperAurum
12-20-2019, 08:10 AM
The boys what uses the permit to accompany program are angry that a fat, old man with a bad temper and a big red trike would DARE suggest that the permits be denied until such time that the wildlife populations return to numbers that can sustain the additional hunting pressure. For some, a reduction in permit to accompany issuance affects the bottom line and affordability of thier own hunts.

Wild one
12-20-2019, 08:15 AM
No anger here you are entitled to your opinion

but definitely a few laughs here

moosinaround
12-20-2019, 08:29 AM
The boys what uses the permit to accompany program are angry that a fat, old man with a bad temper and a big red trike would DARE suggest that the permits be denied until such time that the wildlife populations return to numbers that can sustain the additional hunting pressure. For some, a reduction in permit to accompany issuance affects the bottom line and affordability of thier own hunts.
reading through the blurred lines of your dribble, get to the point! If you carry a camera, you too could get on an outdoors show too!

whognu
12-20-2019, 08:46 AM
What the actual fck is going on here?


just good natured, ribbing between friends

that, or your basic anonymous internet bullying...........


i always get those two mixed up

xo

SemperAurum
12-20-2019, 08:54 AM
Loosey Moosey knows the score.....the little signs that hide between the lines.......a wallet full o cash.........a suitcase full o meat..........the rack packin elk god......pack em in like sardinos

vladthepes
12-20-2019, 09:01 AM
I used this program once to bring a family member on a hunting trip! A lot of paper work but it works well. Naturally, i agree that if game animals are rare, we should keep it for the residents!

Modeltwelve
12-20-2019, 09:05 AM
Jelvis has risen.

REMINGTON JIM
12-20-2019, 10:39 AM
YUP as i said JELVIS is Back ! :-P RJ

limit time
12-20-2019, 12:07 PM
Loosey Moosey knows the score.....the little signs that hide between the lines.......a wallet full o cash.........a suitcase full o meat..........the rack packin elk god......pack em in like sardinos
Welcome Jel. The “king of the Troll” ! o7

835
12-20-2019, 02:24 PM
Told you it was a Trojan Horse! loaded with the Jel.......

SemperAurum
12-20-2019, 03:15 PM
Johnny sez "if the glove dont fit you must acquit".......Sempy sez "if we can't sustain we must refrain".......



Rollin down the big Trojan

Norwestalta
12-20-2019, 05:55 PM
Thick, that’s a awesome long story short. I’m glad you left out the chaffing the gravel in the KY caused, hence the sheep cape seat cover.

We got a hunter host program in albeeria which I think is great. I really enjoy being able to host my friends and/or family.

SemperAurum
12-20-2019, 09:57 PM
Thick, that’s a awesome long story short. I’m glad you left out the chaffing the gravel in the KY caused, hence the sheep cape seat cover.

We got a hunter host program in albeeria which I think is great. I really enjoy being able to host my friends and/or family.


Host with the most.......no KY, I go dry........chaffed but not ridden hard.......Don Cherry likes men

fuzzybiscuit
12-20-2019, 11:03 PM
Jelly and that lunatic with the head injury are the only two members I’ve ever put on ignore. Thinking about using it for a third time or is that still only twice...?

Piperdown
12-21-2019, 04:50 AM
Jelly and that lunatic with the head injury are the only two members I’ve ever put on ignore. Thinking about using it for a third time or is that still only twice...?
Just do it i did, site becomes bearable again...

fuzzybiscuit
12-21-2019, 08:23 AM
Just do it i did, site becomes bearable again...

The yellow highlighted posts that come up showing the someone on your ignore list has posted are almost as annoying though. Then there’s other Members quoting them...

Norwestalta
12-21-2019, 09:33 AM
I'm unsure how to do this ignore feature?

338win mag
12-21-2019, 09:42 AM
I'm unsure how to do this ignore feature?
Go to settings...then over on the left side of the page under accounts,,,edit ignore list...mine is quite lengthy.

Squamch
12-21-2019, 10:14 AM
I would like to see it expanded so I could "guide" some of my American cousins whose parents and GFs were born in Nelson. I also have friends living in the US who were born in Canada, and it should be automatic for their approvals.......has not been thus far.

No, it should not be automatic. None of the process should be automatic. It should be assessed on a case by case basis. Also I'm fairly certain that the program is only open for Canadian's, is it not?

I would like to see foreign guides given the boot though. If there is profit to be made from BC's wildlife let's at least keep it in Canada.

northof49
12-21-2019, 10:59 AM
Hope that “ban” is permanent....as in “always”....golden!!

Redthies
12-22-2019, 10:07 AM
Semper Semper with a bad temper........smokes the weed to do his dirty deed.....packs a lunch to feed a bunch.....rides high towards the sky.......makes it last a little longer with Big Red.



Definetly smells of jelly, but the words are correctly spelly...

butcher
12-22-2019, 11:17 AM
Definetly smells of jelly, but the words are correctly spelly...

haha that’s actually pretty funny and I hate all that ridiculous gibberish.