Bc hunting regs “ illuminating devices”

[luger]

Just wondering if anyone has had a better explanation from a CO or found anything in the wild life act that would better explain what they mean by illuminating device in the hunting regs( Does this mean only flash lights or also night vision or also infrared . My reason for this I found a cool tool on the snap on truck that is a infrared heat gun with a small screen. I think this would be great for finding downed game in thick bush. The tool ain’t cheap but would be well worth it. I think it’s accurate up to around 50 yards.

Thanks

[nebcfarmer]

I’d also like to know how they consider spotlight use for livestock protection.

also would like to know if predator is spotted from drone approaching livestock if that’s considered hunting with drone use.

[walks with deer]

spot light for predator protection on livestock is legal...its not hunting.most animals have to be reportes under that...it seperate than hunting regs..

[Firstblood]

Well Im now confused, I could have sworn that thermals and nightvision were not allowed when hunting, I thought it sad that right in the regs but its not there. Ive even had people tell me that they are illegal but I cant find it in writing. Ive seen deer on thermal imaging cameras from close to 100yds, they show up as a white spot, not very detailed but would be great for finding downed game. FLIR makes a "phone case" that your phone fits into and its a TIC camera for short range.

[Keta1969]

If it's not illegal they should be. Wouldn't be long before guys are using them to locate live game.

[limit time]

Does this go as far as “lighted knocks” also ?

[hawk-i]

If it's not illegal they should be. Wouldn't be long before guys are using them to locate live game.

Like infrared game cameras? :)

[Drillbit]

If it's not illegal they should be. Wouldn't be long before guys are using them to locate live game.

The ones that good are $10,000

I tried a $4000 thermal and it would never work to hunt with. Takes too long to warm up, and the refresh rate is too fast.

[hawk-i]

ATN Thor LT thermo hunting optics

https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-lt-3-6x

[Firstblood]

As much as they help locate game you cant see antlers with them, guys use them for pigs and coyotes at night becuase they are pretty obvious. Saying that if its that dark its probably not legal hunting light so breaking the law is still breaking the law. Lots of factors have an effect on the effectiveness of TIC cameras, I only used one to see deer when we were standing around at an MVI and we had one on the truck, it was a top of the line FLIR and it wasnt that good.

[Keta1969]

The ones that good are $10,000

I tried a $4000 thermal and it would never work to hunt with. Takes too long to warm up, and the refresh rate is too fast.

Trouble is tech generally gets cheap and better fast.

[butcher]

Trouble is tech generally gets cheap and better fast.

I hunted with a guy in NZ that used a thermal imager. It was unbelievable for spotting game. You could see stuff very clearly at better than a kilometre including being able to count points on a deer and seeing god dang rabbits and pigs in the brush.

[limit time]

I hunted with a guy in NZ that used a thermal imager. It was unbelievable for spotting game. You could see stuff very clearly at better than a kilometre including being able to count points on a deer and seeing god dang rabbits and pigs in the brush.

really ? 1000 meters eh ?

[wifigary]

I've got one of those seek thermal XR units that plug into the bottom of an IPhone/IPad. Sure, over 100 yards you'll be able to see a spot, but good luck trying to figure out what it is.

Here's a person at 130yds (the person is that stick just above center between two cars)

http://209.53.183.99/Gary/IMG_0743.JPG

[Busterpayton54]

I have said snap on thermal camera for my automotive work purposes. Out of curiosity I’ve taken it out while walking the dog. Sure it’s neat to see the heat signature of his prints for a second before they vanish. You’d be able to detect a dog to about 40 meters but not identify what it is. I do not believe you’d be able to detect a deer at much more than 50-60meters. Certainly not identify what it was, you’d just have a couple pixels worth.

this is on clear open view. I can’t see him 5 ft away in tall grass or 25 meters away in average density forest vegetation.

not no mention as someone what owns a shit ton of snap on equipment... you can buy better stuff made in China off eBay for 1/10th the cost. Not even kidding.

[butcher]

really ? 1000 meters eh ?

He claimed it would pick up heat at 3 km on a cold night. I have no way of knowing that for a fact But 1 km was not an issue.

[mikhailmol]

I hunted with a guy in NZ that used a thermal imager. It was unbelievable for spotting game. You could see stuff very clearly at better than a kilometre including being able to count points on a deer and seeing god dang rabbits and pigs in the brush.
Get the model of his imager and let us know if you are still in contact with him. I would like to see how much his costs. Sure it's not legal to hunt with it but finding a deer you shoot with this imager would be great. I was hunting with a crossbow. Got the bolt into the vitals, the deer was walking away limping going uphill. I decided to walk around to push it down instead so that I would have less distance to carry, it was the end of the day, started snowing and was getting dark. While walking around I lost sight of it, when I was above from where it last was - I started looking and couldn't find it. I searched for an hour through the whole area till it got really dark. Wind and snow only increased and I had to be back home by 11 pm to take over watching my baby for my wife to go on her night shift and that's with 500 km to drive. Couldn't search anymore and had to go - took me three days to track where that deer and after shooting it and not getting a miss, I wasn't able to find it. Got in the blizzard on the way back, my truck was the only one driving that night on the highway - didn't see any other cars, didn't get back home on time either.
Would I have wanted a thermal imager that works - sure. I am sure I would not have lost that deer that night. I still feed bad for not being able to find it and want a thermal imager that actually works and doesn't cost over a $1000. So if you can get the model of what your friend had - I would love to see how much it costs.

[limit time]

He claimed it would pick up heat at 3 km on a cold night. I have no way of knowing that for a fact But 1 km was not an issue.

The way I read it, is as YOU said points could be counted at 1k....?

[butcher]

Ya, no sorry, my bad. You could definitely tell species. Points I couldn’t say. But you could clearly see antlers in the dark. They give off much more heat than I would have thought.

[Mark-R]

latest reg proposal:
https://apps.nrs.gov.bc.ca/ahte/content/infrared-optics (https://apps.nrs.gov.bc.ca/ahte/content/infrared-optics)

Current Regulations:
Section 26(1)(e) of the Wildlife Act states: A person commits an offence if the person hunts, takes, traps, wounds or kills wildlife by the use or with the aid of a light or illuminating device.



Proposed Regulations:
Section 26(1)(e) doesn’t specify what an “illuminating device” is, and for greater certainty and clarity, an additional provision that prohibits the use of infrared optics (or thermal imaging) for the purpose of hunting is being proposed.



Rationale:
This proposed regulation has been requested by the Provincial Hunting and Trapping Advisory Team. For more information on the process that led to the request refer to the “Additional Information” section at the bottom of this page.
Infrared optics, including but not limited to, binoculars and scopes for firearms/bows, allow a person to see the heat signature of a living organism, a signature that is not visible to the naked eye. The use of infrared optics is not considered to be in line with provincial hunting principles and are proposed to be unlawful for the purpose of hunting.

[Kill-da-wabbit]

These things have a very limited range (I have a FLIR unit). You have more of an advantage with a spotting scope. It's just more regulations - the noose tightens...