Wolves Are Eating All Our Game Animals Up In BC..

[hunter1947]

Bears and cats add to this problem as well..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eQwBmHmFxc

https://youtu.be/53aylgrJDRg

Part 4 from my 2019 hunt in this video you will see a pack
of wolves that I called in using my voice..https://youtu.be/NgSsK7PsM5w





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[J_T]

Wayne, are you connecting with the trappers in the area you hunt and making them aware that the population of wolves is what it is? Need to work together and reduce those wolf numbers.
Thanks.

[hunter1947]

Wayne, are you connecting with the trappers in the area you hunt and making them aware that the population of wolves is what it is? Need to work together and reduce those wolf numbers.
Thanks.

Yes J_T I pass it on letting everyone know about what wolves I see within my hunting area the end results seeing and calling wolves in will be kept under my hat to many animal rights people on social media
will leave it at that,,I could talk about the trapping within my area won't go there..

[Fennemonster]

Well I guess this means I need to treat myself to a new rifle for Christmas. And if the wife asks this one is for wolves.

[albravo2]

Wayne, it is great to see you posting again. There was a thread a short while back asking about you and your quality content every year.

I hope you had a great season.

[Bugle M In]

Firstly....Wayne.....GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOPE YOU CAN STAY A LITTLE LONGER...…

As for Wolves, yes, they aren't going anywhere and I am seeing that things are actually getting worse, even more so in areas where they really
haven't been traditionally.
I ran into more MD pelvis/spines this last November then in all the other years combined.
And I sure as hell didn't cover every inch of ground up there, so I am pretty sure there were more casualties.
(Partners also found the same issue where they walked)
And it sure as heck wasn't due to starvation....I am completely positive about that.
Wolves are the new player in that area, and it shows.

Some are complaining about the 1 MD Limit.
I say it might be a good thing, and might now convince some to start pursing wolves and other preds.

Trapping is still one of the best ways.
If our government isn't going to cull them, we as hunters really need to organize in a different manner and find other ways.
It's definitely becoming a shit show in this province.

[hunter1947]

Firstly....Wayne.....GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOPE YOU CAN STAY A LITTLE LONGER...…

As for Wolves, yes, they aren't going anywhere and I am seeing that things are actually getting worse, even more so in areas where they really
haven't been traditionally.
I ran into more MD pelvis/spines this last November then in all the other years combined.
And I sure as hell didn't cover every inch of ground up there, so I am pretty sure there were more casualties.
(Partners also found the same issue where they walked)
And it sure as heck wasn't due to starvation....I am completely positive about that.
Wolves are the new player in that area, and it shows.

Some are complaining about the 1 MD Limit.
I say it might be a good thing, and might now convince some to start pursing wolves and other preds.

Trapping is still one of the best ways.
If our government isn't going to cull them, we as hunters really need to organize in a different manner and find other ways.
It's definitely becoming a shit show in this province.


All and all its called shot shovel and shut up..

[Jagermeister]

Nice to see you back Wayne.

[Cyrus]

Always enjoy your season end posts.

[Bugle M In]

Yes J_T I pass it on letting everyone know about what wolves I see within my hunting area the end results seeing and calling wolves in will be kept under my hat to many animal rights people on social media
will leave it at that,,I could talk about the trapping within my area won't go there..

Interesting, we found that this years elk hunt would of had us tagged out on 2 balck bears for each of us and there were 3 of us out hunting.
BBears everywhere where we hunted in the EK this season!
Don't think they are the main culprits in reduced ungulates like elk however, but I can see them becoming a pain in the ass next year around
camp!

Thought our wolves had moved on after last season and little sign, but nope, they were back as well and a big mother in the pack also from the
size of tracks.

Also, sounds like the trapper in your area might be like the one in the area I hunt, who does not waste time targeting wolves "at all".
(this is the story I get from the GO in there who does talk to the trapper directly)
Heard there might be a new guy, but I aint holding my breath.

As for the Triple S (shoot, shovel, shut up), I suspect the GO uses that when he can, but he aint there all year round.
I know there is a member or 2 on here who don't like the concept or hate hearing about 1080 (I get the concerns to other wildlife), but
with the lack of government involvement and "taking care of what needs to be done", it will lead to folks doing it under their "own terms",
and methods!!

It is just what happens when things get out of hand! and the folks in authority either stop listening or stop acting.
But I think many who could and would do something have their hands tied.

It really is up to every trapper, GO and resident hunter to do their part and whatever they can.

[xlcc]

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After hunting season for the ungulates is over then it is time to hunt the predators instead of sitting around on the couch like most hunters do.It takes a lot of effort and determination to hunt for wolves but it can be very rewarding and it's lots of fun.
Of all the hunters out there how many go predator hunting to do their part in evening out the odds?You can't just shoot the ones we eat,you must shoot the predators too.

[bearvalley]

Nice dogs....I really like the picture of the one tied to the stick with a rope!

[Red_Mist]

Nice work xlcc ! Watched a Valerius Geist video recently and 1 wolf is equivalent(in what it kills/eats) to 10 moose or 22 elk a year. So i'm thinking you did a good deed for the ungulates in your area.

[xlcc]

The one tied to the stick I used to drag him out of the bush,like dragging a deer.Part of my gear.
There is still lots of wolves.A friend called in a pack a couple of weeks ago.Killed one at 10 feet from him,then shot another one then hit another that got away.Not bad 3 out of the pack in one go.
A few years ago another buddy killed 2 and lost a 3rd one when calling a moose.
You just gotta get out there and keep trying.

[xlcc]

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[xlcc]

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[HarryToolips]

All and all its called shot shovel and shut up..
I agree.....good to see you back....what were you getting for ungulates on cam this Year? I remember you posting lots of decent elk and deer previous years...

[HarryToolips]

The one tied to the stick I used to drag him out of the bush,like dragging a deer.Part of my gear.
There is still lots of wolves.A friend called in a pack a couple of weeks ago.Killed one at 10 feet from him,then shot another one then hit another that got away.Not bad 3 out of the pack in one go.
A few years ago another buddy killed 2 and lost a 3rd one when calling a moose.
You just gotta get out there and keep trying.
Great work....do you find distress calls or just howling like a wolf and sparking their curiosity more effective generally?

[hunter1947]

Great work....do you find distress calls or just howling like a wolf and sparking their curiosity more effective generally?

HarryToolips I have called in 5 different wolf packs this fall I use my voice and howl like the wolves howl ,,I called in one of the pack last year for a young feller last year he took
a shot at the wolf and wounded it,,over the last 3 years i have called in 7 wolf packs,,I consider my voice good at wolf call in ..I have a rug from a male wolf I called
in 3 years ago on my wall that I called this wolf in using my voice..

[hunter1947]

I agree.....good to see you back....what were you getting for ungulates on cam this Year? I remember you posting lots of decent elk and deer previous years...

My trails cam activity are way down from 2018 for deer and elk,,in 2019 only got 50% of what I usually get on my 15 trail cams that are set up
reason being is the wolves,cats,bears declining the elk and deer..

[hunter1947]

The rumor I heard is that there will be no closed season on wolves in hi populated regions don't know if this is true its just a rumor I head from a houndsman ??.

[hunter1947]

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After hunting season for the ungulates is over then it is time to hunt the predators instead of sitting around on the couch like most hunters do.It takes a lot of effort and determination to hunt for wolves but it can be very rewarding and it's lots of fun.
Of all the hunters out there how many go predator hunting to do their part in evening out the odds?You can't just shoot the ones we eat,you must shoot the predators too.

For sure you got this correct all us as hunters should do there part on controlling wolves and other predators we the hunters and trappers are the only ones that will control predators
hunters that bitch about the predator population have no one to blame but themselves if they don't do there part on controlling predators..

[hunter1947]

https://youtu.be/vSi-STypTDw
https://youtu.be/d9WaN627ZW8 (https://youtu.be/d9WaN627ZW8)
https://youtu.be/BVzA25s78C8 (https://youtu.be/BVzA25s78C8)

[xlcc]

Great work....do you find distress calls or just howling like a wolf and sparking their curiosity more effective generally?
Deer in distress call and howling are both good ways to bring in wolves.If you can find a road kill that the highways guys dump in a gravel pit are useful too.A fellow I know uses an electronic call to get a response then finishes with his voice howling.They do like to spread out when they come in especially down wind.

[marcus44]

Does anyone know any trappers with territory in the Winfield area? I've got an area that has a good size pack in it. I've taken a few shots at them to no avail. I will be heading up there this winter to try to call them in. If I can find a trapper that is able to trap in the area it would be helpful as well.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Does anyone know any trappers with territory in the Winfield area? I've got an area that has a good size pack in it. I've taken a few shots at them to no avail. I will be heading up there this winter to try to call them in. If I can find a trapper that is able to trap in the area it would be helpful as well.

Ron Lancour?? Not sure if that’s part of his area or not?

[Bugle M In]

Deer in distress call and howling are both good ways to bring in wolves.If you can find a road kill that the highways guys dump in a gravel pit are useful too.A fellow I know uses an electronic call to get a response then finishes with his voice howling.They do like to spread out when they come in especially down wind.

What kind of "distress call" are people using???
Keep hearing about it but haven't come across one in the stores....not that I know of anyways??

[g_worsnop]

I bet there is a few trappers out there that would love to get a chance to trap on that line.

[Dannybuoy]

I bet there is a few trappers out there that would love to get a chance to trap on that line.
All that's needed is a trapping licence and WRITTEN permission from the registered trapline owner .

[xlcc]

What kind of "distress call" are people using???
Keep hearing about it but haven't come across one in the stores....not that I know of anyways??
Get yourself a doe deer call ,a bleat and put some feelings in it when you blow it like you are going to get eaten or stuck in a fence.A"comeheredeer" call would work.I lost mine and use something else now.A cow elk call would do fine as well.
A wolf howling can be heard a long ways off on a still day.In the Spring my wife and I set up a tent in our yard and sleep outside 'till September.At times we wake up to the wolves howling across the river.I consider ourselves fortunate to be able to hear them and to hunt them where we live.

[Bugle M In]

Get yourself a doe deer call ,a bleat and put some feelings in it when you blow it like you are going to get eaten or stuck in a fence.A"comeheredeer" call would work.I lost mine and use something else now.A cow elk call would do fine as well.
A wolf howling can be heard a long ways off on a still day.In the Spring my wife and I set up a tent in our yard and sleep outside 'till September.At times we wake up to the wolves howling across the river.I consider ourselves fortunate to be able to hear them and to hunt them where we live.

Okay thanks.
I have seen one fella that had a deer distress that looked like one of those early day cow calls with an elastic band but never find it for sale.
Did look online and saw one from Primos and how they are using it but was curious to see what you were trying.

Yes, lucky (I suppose:tongue:) that wolves are near by you to hunt them.
And good job on dropping some as well.

I know we have a pact now that the next time anyone in our hunting groups runs into them, no matter what we are hunting at the time,
they are going to be taken out.
(kicking myself that years ago I let that huge pack walk....stupid now in hindsight).
I don't worry about being out hunting elk and a bull is near by and I pull the pin on a wolf.
I have seen that game don't get too worried about gunshots as many think.
Have dropped a few elk only meters apart within only a couple of hours of each other.

Just an fyi to any who think they might be ruining their hunt if they were to shoot a wolf while in pursuit of a different species at the time.

[xlcc]

I saw a wolf running across a huge meadow just at daybreak when gassing for elk.The wind was blowing hard.By the time I dug my coyote call outa' my jacket inside pocket he was a long ways off.I blew that call as hard as I could.After the third time he stopped,probably 500 yds away.I blew the call one more time and he turned around and came running back where he came from.I leaned my rifle against a small sappling ready to shoot.when he stopped he was about 175 yds.My buddy said "wack him".I knocked him down then he got up and ran another 100 yds.,jumped across a creek then piled up.A nice black male wolf.An hour later I shot a 6 point bull elk only a half a mile from the wolf .

[Bugle M In]

I saw a wolf running across a huge meadow just at daybreak when gassing for elk.The wind was blowing hard.By the time I dug my coyote call outa' my jacket inside pocket he was a long ways off.I blew that call as hard as I could.After the third time he stopped,probably 500 yds away.I blew the call one more time and he turned around and came running back where he came from.I leaned my rifle against a small sappling ready to shoot.when he stopped he was about 175 yds.My buddy said "wack him".I knocked him down then he got up and ran another 100 yds.,jumped across a creek then piled up.A nice black male wolf.An hour later I shot a 6 point bull elk only a half a mile from the wolf .

^^^^^Exactly.....good stuff!

[sammer]

I called 1 in last year with a baby hoochy momma! He was as startled to see me as I was him. High tailed it before I could get my gun up. Only saw the one but there were probably more.

Sam

[kelowna.jordan]

Does anyone know any trappers with territory in the Winfield area? I've got an area that has a good size pack in it. I've taken a few shots at them to no avail. I will be heading up there this winter to try to call them in. If I can find a trapper that is able to trap in the area it would be helpful as well.
I'm in kelowna and would be into a group wolf hunt if you're looking for a partner 🍻

[HarryToolips]

HarryToolips I have called in 5 different wolf packs this fall I use my voice and howl like the wolves howl ,,I called in one of the pack last year for a young feller last year he took
a shot at the wolf and wounded it,,over the last 3 years i have called in 7 wolf packs,,I consider my voice good at wolf call in ..I have a rug from a male wolf I called
in 3 years ago on my wall that I called this wolf in using my voice..
Very cool I will try that this winter...

[HarryToolips]

My trails cam activity are way down from 2018 for deer and elk,,in 2019 only got 50% of what I usually get on my 15 trail cams that are set up
reason being is the wolves,cats,bears declining the elk and deer..
Damn that sucks....

[one-shot-wonder]

https://youtu.be/vSi-STypTDw
https://youtu.be/d9WaN627ZW8 (https://youtu.be/d9WaN627ZW8)
https://youtu.be/BVzA25s78C8 (https://youtu.be/BVzA25s78C8)

This juvenile you called into your camp looks like it is from that litter of pups that you have on trail camera on your salt lick.

[hunter1947]

This juvenile you called into your camp looks like it is from that litter of pups that you have on trail camera on your salt lick.

one-shot-wonder most of the wolves that I have seen in the area I hunt are al the same color in that one video I posted up from in a cut block when the pack surrounded my truck all where the same color..

[one-shot-wonder]

one-shot-wonder most of the wolves that I have seen in the area I hunt are al the same color in that one video I posted up from in a cut block when the pack surrounded my truck all where the same color..

More in reference to the age of that young wolf. Earlier that summer you had a cam pic of a pack of pups, that juvenile could have been one of those pups from your trail camera, even more likely if your cam is within a reasonable distance to your camp. Need to really get the trapper going in that area....we save our bones and trim meat when butchering our animals, freeze it and take to the local trapper with some gas $$.....that is how we make a dent on wolf packs, not by armchair quarterbacks tromping around in the winter shooting 1 of 8 out of pack.

[hunter1947]

I would like the law for trapping to change ,,say your in a trappers area and this trapper has not been trapping for animals within his trap line over a year the wildlife branch
would now this because the trapper has to pay royalties fees on his pelts..

Say this trapline area is infested with wolves I would be a good thing for the wildlife branch to let other trappers that have there trappers license to trap these wolves or other
within in this trap line..

I have noticed that some trappers within there trap line areas do nothing on there trap line and some use there cabins within this trap line for hunting purposes..

[the bear]

As usual we Hunters have decided that all animals are "OURS". This selfish and unrealistic attitude is one of the reasons Anti's out number us and will continue to gain popularity, we have propped up the sword and continuing down the path will result in us falling on it.

[Bugle M In]

As usual we Hunters have decided that all animals are "OURS". This selfish and unrealistic attitude is one of the reasons Anti's out number us and will continue to gain popularity, we have propped up the sword and continuing down the path will result in us falling on it.

Sorry, its a bit early in the morning, my coffee and pain killers haven't kicked yet, but there is at least one flaw in your statement,
There is one group, above all else that think the wildlife is "theirs" before anyone else....called FN.
(just to clarify that).

As for the rest of the statement, not sure about the reasoning on the "Selfish and unrealistic attitude"????
What are you getting at?
What makes you feel that way?

All I see are hunters frustrated with a bunch of issues that plague our province thru government inaction or giving it away.
Wolf is merely a little part of the issues, but would be a step in the right direction if the Ministry had balls.

What is exactly the sword that we are commiting hari-kari with????
Sounds like from many of your posts on hbc, that hunters "disappoint you"???
Would be nice if you explained what we are doing wrong and better yet, your view on "What hunters should be doing"!?

[twoSevenO]

I would like the law for trapping to change ,,say your in a trappers area and this trapper has not been trapping for animals within his trap line over a year the wildlife branch
would now this because the trapper has to pay royalties fees on his pelts..

Say this trapline area is infested with wolves I would be a good thing for the wildlife branch to let other trappers that have there trappers license to trap these wolves or other
within in this trap line..

I have noticed that some trappers within there trap line areas do nothing on there trap line and some use there cabins within this trap line for hunting purposes..

dormant trap lines is one of the issues Steve, proguide66, was dealing last year with his wolf initiative. Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do if the owner does not want you on his trapline.
It seems like a tricky situation. Who's to say the owner isn't out there trying, just having a bad season? So makes it difficult to do anything about this issue, i think. There's no way to prove you aren't out there "often enough".

And yes, some folks have purchased traplines exclusively because it gives them the right to build a cabin in their hunting grounds. That one is kind of smart, actually, if you have the money ;)

[andrew5]

To further emphasize the concept of shooting a wolf and not having it affect the rest of your hunt, in this situation it may have helped you bag the elk ironically. IT is reasonable to assume that a wolf on the move only a half mile from where you eventually shot the elk, could have easily pushed the elk out of that area, had you not shot it earlier.





I saw a wolf running across a huge meadow just at daybreak when gassing for elk.The wind was blowing hard.By the time I dug my coyote call outa' my jacket inside pocket he was a long ways off.I blew that call as hard as I could.After the third time he stopped,probably 500 yds away.I blew the call one more time and he turned around and came running back where he came from.I leaned my rifle against a small sappling ready to shoot.when he stopped he was about 175 yds.My buddy said "wack him".I knocked him down then he got up and ran another 100 yds.,jumped across a creek then piled up.A nice black male wolf.An hour later I shot a 6 point bull elk only a half a mile from the wolf .

[northof49]

As usual we Hunters have decided that all animals are "OURS". This selfish and unrealistic attitude is one of the reasons Anti's out number us and will continue to gain popularity, we have propped up the sword and continuing down the path will result in us falling on it.

What the heck are talking about? Care to explain?

Hunters are simply frustrated with the GOV inaction as they continue to manage....or lack there of....our fish and wildlife resources towards zero!! Fear of offending anyone or special interest groups now regularly trumps common sense and science based decisions.

[LBM]

All and all its called shot shovel and shut up..

hunter 1947 always thought it pretty neat the amount of time you spent in he bush
but sorry to see you went this way, but it seems all to comin these days especially looking
at some of the posts on this site. Cant go out a single day here with out finding some thing
illegal been done.

[Bugle M In]

Again.....LBM and infinite wisdom.
Call the CO's as it probably is a small group doing most o the illegal stuff.

Majority of hunters are great ethical people and care a lot.
Hunter 47 is one of those.
Only have to take a vote/poll between H47 and LBM to see who is who on HBC!!

Thankfully. most who have been on HBC for a time already know who is who!

[xlcc]

To further emphasize the concept of shooting a wolf and not having it affect the rest of your hunt, in this situation it may have helped you bag the elk ironically. IT is reasonable to assume that a wolf on the move only a half mile from where you eventually shot the elk, could have easily pushed the elk out of that area, had you not shot it earlier.Wolf was running in the direction of where I killed the elk.I intercepted him along the way.

[HarryToolips]

As usual we Hunters have decided that all animals are "OURS". This selfish and unrealistic attitude is one of the reasons Anti's out number us and will continue to gain popularity, we have propped up the sword and continuing down the path will result in us falling on it.
Everyone put this ignorant anti hunter on ignore plz....

[HarryToolips]

hunter 1947 always thought it pretty neat the amount of time you spent in he bush
but sorry to see you went this way, but it seems all to comin these days especially looking
at some of the posts on this site. Cant go out a single day here with out finding some thing
illegal been done.
If the govt isn't going to manage wildlife properly, then we will have to....I hope more ppl do what H47 is recommending, it is a pred pit out there, and if opportunities arise, we are going to have to take them to help the ungulates out, plain and simple....desperate time call for desperate measures...

[hunter1947]

Some of these post are out to lunch they make no sense at all ,,I don't even want to reply to them don't want to waist my time,,this kind of talk is one reason I took a break from HBC

There are some HBC members that know what they are talking about,,(Bugle Me in) is one of them..

[LBM]

If the govt isn't going to manage wildlife properly, then we will have to....I hope more ppl do what H47 is recommending, it is a pred pit out there, and if opportunities arise, we are going to have to take them to help the ungulates out, plain and simple....desperate time call for desperate measures...
Like i said many people are into doing illegal things /poaching and if there doing it on a wolf cat or bear they are no different then the guy doing it on a ungulate.

[LBM]

[QUOTE=hunter1947;2137526]Some of these post are out to lunch they make no sense at all ,,I don't even want to reply to them don't want to waist my time,,this kind of talk is one reason I took a break from HBC

There are some HBC members that know what they are talking about,,



Yes your right don't no why people recommend illegal stuff then get upset when questioned on it.

[Wild one]

Wayne ignore the idiots or tell them to get F ed and if you are too nice I offer my services to tell them to get F ed on your behalf. No charge and a few I would even enjoy telling them to get F ed lol

The fact of the matter is BC needs balance in the predator prey ratios. It’s not a matter of hunters thinking all the game belongs to them it’s called common sense that if we only remove animals from one side spectrum of the spectrum we will have an unbalance. Man has also modified the landscape to benifit the ability for predators to travel with minimal effort giving access to prey that was out of reach in the past.

It is not a matter of eradicating predators like some assume but man has played such a factor in changing the ecosystem it’s not a simple” let nature sort it out” either.

Unfortunately the idea of opening up inactive traplines is a political mess and you big hiccups are BC government not wanting to address the issue along with FN discussions. I was highly active on the issue in the past and the biggest issue is government just straight up does not want to put in the effort to get the problem solved. All the policies and procedures are there and have been there forever. The excuse used is FN consolation but they have not/won’t even attempt to start them in most cases. There is also other issues beyond this and part of it is in those trying to push it to change

Getting anything done on this front is like pulling teeth with rusty pliers with govt, lack of common sense and those trying to protect personal interest

Nice to have you around Wayne

[hunter1947]

This 7mm was modified back in 1972 the rifle before getting it modified was a 3006 its the only rifle I have used all my years hunting in the past 48 years douglas supreme barrel 28 inches long with
the same 3x9 leupold scope that I paid for both 100 bucks back in 1972 and this wolf did not have a chance when it came out into the open cutblock..

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/15380721_10153886665892142_6035032116206397764_n.j pg

[sammer]

Nice!!! Get em while we can.

sam

[hunter1947]

Wayne ignore the idiots or tell them to get F ed and if you are too nice I offer my services to tell them to get F ed on your behalf. No charge and a few I would even enjoy telling them to get F ed lol

The fact of the matter is BC needs balance in the predator prey ratios. It’s not a matter of hunters thinking all the game belongs to them it’s called common sense that if we only remove animals from one side spectrum of the spectrum we will have an unbalance. Man has also modified the landscape to benifit the ability for predators to travel with minimal effort giving access to prey that was out of reach in the past.

It is not a matter of eradicating predators like some assume but man has played such a factor in changing the ecosystem it’s not a simple” let nature sort it out” either.

Unfortunately the idea of opening up inactive traplines is a political mess and you big hiccups are BC government not wanting to address the issue along with FN discussions. I was highly active on the issue in the past and the biggest issue is government just straight up does not want to put in the effort to get the problem solved. All the policies and procedures are there and have been there forever. The excuse used is FN consolation but they have not/won’t even attempt to start them in most cases. There is also other issues beyond this and part of it is in those trying to push it to change

Getting anything done on this front is like pulling teeth with rusty pliers with govt, lack of common sense and those trying to protect personal interest

Nice to have you around Wayne

Good post wild one i totally agree with your post ,,BC management should look at what the USA is doing to help control the wolf population in parts of these two states I looked up on the internet 5 months ago in montana and idaho what the management is doing they pay 900 bucks to any wolf brought into the game department..

This is where there is a hi population area with wolves and in area zones where population is lower they the management in the USA paying 500 bucks for a wolf..

Management in BC has to do a wolf cull and keep it hidden from social media what us hunter do to control the wolf population is squat to reduce number and the trappers take a few but not many..

[Buckmeister]

I've been telling many people lately about the rise in the local area's wolf population. The conversation is usually met with indifference or disbelief. Because they don't personally see or hear any wolves, they don't think there is a problem, even when it was reported recently about a wolf carrying away someones little dog in it's mouth. If wolves are killing domestic pets, there is too many wolves and/or not enough other prey.

[hunter1947]

I've been telling many people lately about the rise in the local area's wolf population. The conversation is usually met with indifference or disbelief. Because they don't personally see or hear any wolves, they don't think there is a problem, even when it was reported recently about a wolf carrying away someones little dog in it's mouth. If wolves are killing domestic pets, there is too many wolves and/or not enough other prey.

In the area I have hunted over the past 50 years never saw or heard of a wolf until the late 90ies since then the wolf population has exploited to an unbelievable number.

I got it pegged that there are 6 different wolf packs within the area I hunt within a 40 Kilometer range not all zones have a high populated area of wolves but it won't be
long till there was a wolf problem in other area zones unless management does something about the wolf problem now..

wolves expand in numbers to different zone areas and keep on expanding into different area zones,,just look back on what the wolves did on Vancouver island back in the 90ties

The wolves started in big numbers north end of the island and in a few years they where eating up the deer in the south end of the island..

[338win mag]

I've been telling many people lately about the rise in the local area's wolf population. The conversation is usually met with indifference or disbelief. Because they don't personally see or hear any wolves, they don't think there is a problem, even when it was reported recently about a wolf carrying away someones little dog in it's mouth. If wolves are killing domestic pets, there is too many wolves and/or not enough other prey.
I hear Wolves howling around my house now.

[bearvalley]

....BC manageManagement in BC has to do a wolf cull and keep it hidden from social media what us hunter do to control the wolf population is squat to reduce number and the trappers take a few but not many..
Wayne, you are correct.
BC is doing and needs to expand predator (wolf) culls. The most recent ones are in conjunction with First Nations....the same ones many on this site seem to blame for our lack of game.
The only way we will ever see game management that cannot be tampered with by politicians under the guise of “doing what they do in the best interest of the public”...is work with FN’s.
Politician's and the media won’t touch them.

[bearvalley]

I hear Wolves howling around my house now.
Go hunt one!

[hunter1947]

Wayne, you are correct.
BC is doing and needs to expand predator (wolf) culls. The most recent ones are in conjunction with First Nations....the same ones many on this site seem to blame for our lack of game.
The only way we will ever see game management that cannot be tampered with by politicians under the guise of “doing what they do in the best interest of the public”...is work with FN’s.
Politician's and the media won’t touch them.
Yes you are correct I agree with your thoughts 150%..

[hunter1947]

There was a very sad posting on facebook's a few days ago someone posted up a pack of wolves coming into there front yard area they had a surveillance camera
in front of there home that caught this pack of wolves killing and ripping apart the two dogs and eating them was a very disturbing post to see maybe some of you
saw this video ,,whats next may be a child or a adult next??..

[338win mag]

Go hunt one!
Now that mainstream hunting is pretty much over with for the year, I was thinking of setting out a bait pile here shortly as I am in the bush everyday. I shot at 2 of them and hit one, may have hit the other but not sure....when they come out they sure move fast and they are a pretty big target when standing broadside, then when they turn toward you they are a surprisingly thin target to hit.
I will try some serious Wolf hunting this year.

[hunter1947]

The management has implemented a compulsory inspection in some zones in BC in the past few years,,I don't care for this compulsory inspection ,,it is a good idea but ,,, what my thoughts are is that they should change the compulsory inspection..
This is what the inspector wanted when I took my wolf in two years ago a tooth and a sample of hair and the closes landmark the wolf was shot why could we not sent this in mail the tooth and hair can be put
into a sealed envelope.

Why should we take the time to travel many miles taking a wolf into a inspector using our gas and time and lots of times when you do go to the inspector they are not there and if you don't want the wolf after inspection then you have to deal with getting rid of the wolf,,the wolf I had in my freezer two years ago stunk up the freezer so bad that I had to use bleach and water 3 times to get rid of the smell..

Where do you take it dump or drop it off in a remote area and let nature clean it up ?? might thoughts from my thoughts above makes more sense and this way the management won't have to pay the inspector money the money will be kept in management ,,I might be out to lunch on my thoughts but its what my thoughts are..

[338win mag]

I've been telling many people lately about the rise in the local area's wolf population. The conversation is usually met with indifference or disbelief. Because they don't personally see or hear any wolves, they don't think there is a problem, even when it was reported recently about a wolf carrying away someones little dog in it's mouth. If wolves are killing domestic pets, there is too many wolves and/or not enough other prey.
We aren't too far from one another, I forgot to add that I heard a neighbor had at least one big dog killed by something bigger than it. I also notice a significant drop in the Coyote population locally.
When I first discovered signs of Wolves....some thought I was full of shit too.

[finngun]

Why inspector dont come yu house,,,where wolf(s) is cold...? He is getting paid for it..not another way around..shooter is losing his time and gas money for nothing.. that is not right.

[Pauly]

Coyotes are way down in Kamloops in my areas anyhow.. I do believe the wolves are killing them any chance they can

[andrew5]

can anyone point me in a couple of general directions for wolf hunting close to the Lower Mainland?

[hunter1947]

Here is the link with the wolves killing two domestic dogs.....https://www.facebook.com/radoslawdominowski/videos/2464536053761816/

[hunter1947]

Why inspector dont come yu house,,,where wolf(s) is cold...? He is getting paid for it..not another way around..shooter is losing his time and gas money for nothing.. that is not right.

You tell me why not ?????

[HarryToolips]

Like i said many people are into doing illegal things /poaching and if there doing it on a wolf cat or bear they are no different then the guy doing it on a ungulate.
I disagree, as we clearly have a pred prob in BC...but you continue on your your politically correct high horse...

[HarryToolips]

Like i said many people are into doing illegal things /poaching and if there doing it on a wolf cat or bear they are no different then the guy doing it on a ungulate.
I disagree, as we clearly have a pred prob in BC...but you continue on your your politically correct high horse...

[HarryToolips]

Wayne, you are correct.
BC is doing and needs to expand predator (wolf) culls. The most recent ones are in conjunction with First Nations....the same ones many on this site seem to blame for our lack of game.
The only way we will ever see game management that cannot be tampered with by politicians under the guise of “doing what they do in the best interest of the public”...is work with FN’s.
Politician's and the media won’t touch them.
Your right, we need to start discussing this pred issue with FNs - if they are on our side with a cull, then there is nothing the latte sipping hippy Liberals can really do or say...I think I'll talk with the local,band in my area, cheeers..

[HarryToolips]

can anyone point me in a couple of general directions for wolf hunting close to the Lower Mainland?
I could be wrong but I have heard that they were giving the elk herd around Harrison lake grief...

[Wild one]

I could be wrong but I have heard that they were giving the elk herd around Harrison lake grief...

no season on wolves in Harrison and there is very few. Elk in Harrison are experiencing a 2 legged problem


Region 2 all wolf seasons are on the west of the region basically Squamish north but wolf numbers don’t reach increase until you get into region 3. The packs in 3-32 could use a thinning for sure

[Bugle M In]

I disagree, as we clearly have a pred prob in BC...but you continue on your your politically correct high horse...

Yup, I concur 100% with the member in question.
Most folks that hunt are law abiding and great people.
Yes, there are some that don't give a shit and some who try hard to find the loopholes in hunting and there are a few.

NOBODY I have seen/read on HBC wants wolves to be eradicated in BC, not one post have I ever seen saying that.
So, there are a few members who are out to lunch when they say that some here want that, and should be kicked off HBC for such false
claims.

As for the ETHICAL factor on wolves and hip shots, I agree and I think every hbc member also agrees it is NOT EHTICAL, but rather
PRACTICAL if one wants to do a proper job when taking wolves and not making the issue worse, thus it is brought up.

EVERY HBC MEMBER would like to see the Ministry to start doing the RIGHT THING, which is a full on cull of entire packs to "thin them out".
IT is a part of managing all wildlife in BC and without it, creates some real imbalances that take years to "naturally be rectified"!!
And that doesn't work when we had the human factor to these issues, and I am not just talking hunter, but everyone in BC playing a role
in the demise of game #'s.

And to say that a member is potentially unethical in one situation, does not mean they are unethical all across the board!
It just means they are frustrated with "one particular issue".

Some folks need to get their asses kicked off HBC and they can go F off to the Anti Sites!

[finngun]

Bounty for big bad wolf...even 50 or 100$ will help big time, :idea:

[xlcc]

I went to a public meeting regarding the caribou situation and suggested a bounty be placed on wolves as that would help hunters get out and do their part.The govt. reps at the meeting did not like that word "bounty".

[hunter1947]

Here ya go ...https://www.facebook.com/CBCNorth/videos/2430711703816990/

..................https://www.kelownanow.com/watercooler/news/news/Okanagan/Okanagan_ski_resort_warns_of_wolf_seen_in_village_ and_on_trails/?fbclid=IwAR2_q3pfjkdat9zspqPEyG9ghl-2R32vCxc68GRHAS7kSKtZv7vaXjgQG4o

[Wild one]

I went to a public meeting regarding the caribou situation and suggested a bounty be placed on wolves as that would help hunters get out and do their part.The govt. reps at the meeting did not like that word "bounty".

Even with a bounty I don’t think it will do much. With the bounty’s that would put out in the past by R&G clubs it really did not make a big impact. The fact of the matter is wolves are tough to hunt and involve time/dedication most hunters won’t invest for the minimal results they will achieve. Even at $500 a wolf most hunters would not even break even with the $ they put into hunting them. The guys who will do well are the same guys who put in the effort right now without a bounty

BC hunters who do predator hunt need to promote it to other hunters and educate them on how along with the it is beneficial to the other game populations.

I know more wolf hunters in one town in Alberta then I know in the whole province of BC and it’s not because of a bounty

[Ohwildwon]

no season on wolves in Harrison and there is very few. Elk in Harrison are experiencing a 2 legged problem


Region 2 all wolf seasons are on the west of the region basically Squamish north but wolf numbers don’t reach increase until you get into region 3. The packs in 3-32 could use a thinning for sure


Where you getting your intel from and how old is it?

There are wolf packs in 2-6 that could use some hunting pressure for sure.

I'm sure proguiide66 could also chime in on whats needed in certain areas around Pemby?

[Wild one]

Where you getting your intel from and how old is it?

There are wolf packs in 2-6 that could use some hunting pressure for sure.

I'm sure proguiide66 could also chime in on whats needed in certain areas around Pemby?



There is healthy wolf numbers yes but not crazy numbers and I will go with the opinions of the guys who trap in the area. Been about 2 years since I have talked to the trappers I know in that area, about 6 years since I talked to Steve about his trapping in that area, 7 years since I was talking to the head predator bio in BC maybe longer and about 6 years since I was talking to the region 2 bio. Yes I might be a little out of date but I have been around the block a time or two

I bet I make a few calls there has not been much change in wolf numbers in that area.

I fully support them being hunted in 2 but the numbers combined with the terrain you are running really low odds on an already low odds hunt

I am all ears if you have sources I don’t or if you have been stacking up wolves in region 2 I would be impressed

[pro 111]

WE should start an anuall wolf derby . everyone pitch in 100$ Have four locations they are to be measured at the end of the season. Half the pot goes to the BC sheep society. The other half goes to the guy who shot or killed the most wolfs. Or the biggest wolf? Something along those lines?
Just like a big buck contest.
For real . throw in your ideas . lets cook this thing into action.

[SemperAurum]

Wolves are very hard to get for the super above average hunter.

why not Put a permanent thread on this site with maps/gps/locations and let the members report the wolf encounters (tracks, howls, sightings). Might help somebody to find and shoot one or more.

I say helicopters, poison, and more helicopters and poison.

After watching the amount of helicopter money wasted on forest fires over the years and this latest Fraser River rockslide debacle, it should be possible to pay for some choppers to kill wolveses.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Wolves are very hard to get for the super above average hunter.

why not Put a permanent thread on this site with maps/gps/locations and let the members report the wolf encounters (tracks, howls, sightings). Might help somebody to find and shoot one or more.


I say helicopters, poison, and more helicopters and poison.

After watching the amount of helicopter money wasted on forest fires over the years and this latest Fraser River rockslide debacle, it should be possible to pay for some choppers to kill wolveses.

‘Wolftracker’ was a website that shared wolf sightings intel. Haven’t heard anything about it in quite some time.

[vladthepes]

it will makes no differences at all. These animals are so cleaver and so elusive that we can barely see them. Ever the most experience trappers have problems to catch them. (and i am a trapper).

[vladthepes]

a good solution would be for the government to offer a reasonable bounty for each wolves killed. But good luck with that with our bleeding hearts in charge!

[Wild one]

it will makes no differences at all. These animals are so cleaver and so elusive that we can barely see them. Ever the most experience trappers have problems to catch them. (and i am a trapper).

They are tough and smart as hell but there is dedicated hunters and trappers who get good at taking wolves

As a trapper you likely know of a few BC trappers that are really good with wolves

[HarryToolips]

Yup, I concur 100% with the member in question.
Most folks that hunt are law abiding and great people.
Yes, there are some that don't give a shit and some who try hard to find the loopholes in hunting and there are a few.

NOBODY I have seen/read on HBC wants wolves to be eradicated in BC, not one post have I ever seen saying that.
So, there are a few members who are out to lunch when they say that some here want that, and should be kicked off HBC for such false
claims.

As for the ETHICAL factor on wolves and hip shots, I agree and I think every hbc member also agrees it is NOT EHTICAL, but rather
PRACTICAL if one wants to do a proper job when taking wolves and not making the issue worse, thus it is brought up.

EVERY HBC MEMBER would like to see the Ministry to start doing the RIGHT THING, which is a full on cull of entire packs to "thin them out".
IT is a part of managing all wildlife in BC and without it, creates some real imbalances that take years to "naturally be rectified"!!
And that doesn't work when we had the human factor to these issues, and I am not just talking hunter, but everyone in BC playing a role
in the demise of game #'s.

And to say that a member is potentially unethical in one situation, does not mean they are unethical all across the board!
It just means they are frustrated with "one particular issue".

Some folks need to get their asses kicked off HBC and they can go F off to the Anti Sites!
Exactly, and I am with you, I don't want to see wolves eradicated, just controlled..right now they are out of control in this province...

[hunter1947]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2931415006871698&set=p.2931415006871698&type=3&eid=ARBMq1SUCtuikurA5BGO6GjcXczaresi06xRVzApPGrlXm 6A4aNX_AN3LgeSXpE3JONgPo1UPhrWaYDL

https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/272392/Wolf-at-Silver-Star-not-acting-aggressively-but-seen-in-the-area?fbclid=IwAR14JIEUQbPSMHMqbIIpLX_R0T5PI3RZG8yx jzT8LE_gsFZKyUguj0xJzQg#.XfEOmwP32R4.facebook

[LBM]

I disagree, as we clearly have a pred prob in BC...but you continue on your your politically correct high horse...
Said it from day one some areas have a problem some dont, but if yoour against illegal activity that means your on a politically high horse, interesting.

[LBM]

Exactly, and I am with you, I don't want to see wolves eradicated, just controlled..right now they are out of control in this province...

Where has any one said they were worried about wolves been eradicated, or that some want that.
There is a few on here that continue to dream stuff up and do make hunting/hunters look bad with there talk
of illegal activity and un ethical methods, such as causing pain and suffering to animals, then they say its the
governments fault that thye are doing it, quit sad.
Some stuff may being done by the government in parts of the EK to do with predators they just dont like it
being known.

[LBM]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2931415006871698&set=p.2931415006871698&type=3&eid=ARBMq1SUCtuikurA5BGO6GjcXczaresi06xRVzApPGrlXm 6A4aNX_AN3LgeSXpE3JONgPo1UPhrWaYDL

https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/272392/Wolf-at-Silver-Star-not-acting-aggressively-but-seen-in-the-area?fbclid=IwAR14JIEUQbPSMHMqbIIpLX_R0T5PI3RZG8yx jzT8LE_gsFZKyUguj0xJzQg#.XfEOmwP32R4.facebook


To each there own but posing for a hero shot with your dead dog, just doesnt seem right.

[Wild one]

To each there own but posing for a hero shot with your dead dog, just doesnt seem right.

We are seeing that pic completely different

I would not call that a hero shot because he does not look like he is celebrating at all. Looks more like someone who is upset and sharing their experience as a warning of potential hazards with wolves and hounds

[SemperAurum]

I think Wayne is a very handsome man and he is very photogenetic. I would let him take a hero picture with me and my dog any day.
Wayne you are a gem. I love that many dummies on this forum eat out of your hand. Just like a good dog would do.

Goooooooood Boyyyyyyy

[SemperAurum]

For me, a picture of a dead wolf elicits a warm and fuzzy feeling. Very impressive creatures.

I wonder how long they can go without a meal???? Anybody know?

[GreyDog]

In looking at the facebook page, I was a little confused. The only Pinkham Creek of which I am aware is down by Eureka, Montana.
Over the last few days, since we have had enough snow to see tracks, the lack of whitetail sign is notable. This is in an area which had a pretty large population. In fact, 10 years ago, the population was impressive. Now, not so much. The elk herd is also much reduced. This is not due to the presence of wolves. I have not seen a wolf track within five miles of the house for 6 years.
Another animal which is reduced in numbers is the coyote. Probably because there are not enough prey animals to keep them here. Over the winter, I'll start to cover different areas to the west of the house and see how things look.
Further south, wolves are reported more often (up from Montana) so it seems like a more likely area to hunt for some. GD

[Dannybuoy]

Ya GD , I think H 47 just posted those links but are not actually of himself . The wolves knock the coyote population way down just as the
coyotes eliminate fox (like in the Fraser valley where there used to be thousands of fox)

[GreyDog]

Wolves might knock the coyote population down but there is no evidence of any wolves in this locale. The last wolf track I saw was six years ago. At that time, there was a pair which covered a circle of about a five mile radius. They had three pups but all of the pups were killed and the adults left the area. While they were here, the cougars were not and the coyotes mostly stayed on one side of the road and the wolves on the other. When the wolves left, ungulate populations were still pretty good but the writing was on the wall for the whitetails as the doe/fawn harvest increased. The MOE proclaimed the intention of reducing the elk herd by 25% and a biologist admitted to me that they had gone too far and the population had been reduced much more than that.

[Ohwildwon]

Pulled this from pg1966 fb.

This response below is in regard of a photo pg66 posted of a pet dog killed by wolves.


Norma Gunn you are either stupid, or an outright liar. Trump not allowing killing in dens or from the air just for shits and giggles. He removed the federal mandate so that states reclaim their authority over their own conservation and wildlife, instead of having some ignorant liberal **** in DC lording over them based on popular opinion. That way when extreme populations, or individual animals need to be dealt with, state biologists and wildlife experts who understand the specific situations are responsible for deciding how best to deal with it. Doing any of those things is still illegal.

[Dannybuoy]

Wolves might knock the coyote population down but there is no evidence of any wolves in this locale. The last wolf track I saw was six years ago. At that time, there was a pair which covered a circle of about a five mile radius. They had three pups but all of the pups were killed and the adults left the area. While they were here, the cougars were not and the coyotes mostly stayed on one side of the road and the wolves on the other. When the wolves left, ungulate populations were still pretty good but the writing was on the wall for the whitetails as the doe/fawn harvest increased. The MOE proclaimed the intention of reducing the elk herd by 25% and a biologist admitted to me that they had gone too far and the population had been reduced much more than that. I see .... that explains it . Gov , biologist , nuff said .

[Bugle M In]

Wolves might knock the coyote population down but there is no evidence of any wolves in this locale. The last wolf track I saw was six years ago. At that time, there was a pair which covered a circle of about a five mile radius. They had three pups but all of the pups were killed and the adults left the area. While they were here, the cougars were not and the coyotes mostly stayed on one side of the road and the wolves on the other. When the wolves left, ungulate populations were still pretty good but the writing was on the wall for the whitetails as the doe/fawn harvest increased. The MOE proclaimed the intention of reducing the elk herd by 25% and a biologist admitted to me that they had gone too far and the population had been reduced much more than that.

You think!!!???????
They F'd up so badly and the worst part is still to come!
They don't want to bring back the herd #'s like in the past.
Not even half of what they should be!!!

SO, they are still F'ing up!!!!
NIMRODS in that part of the Province and should have been kicked out years ago when they over culled all the Cows and brought
in 6pt.
(am assuming you are talking about the EK?, but if elsewhere, then there are more jackasses that need the boot!)

[hunter1947]

More updates https://www.cbc.ca/1.5391787?fbclid=IwAR3JQFIXO-cZ9zTGdkG8PIJlnUUv0UU2--RjvU61zy4YJ66D9Shzt-K6ad8

[SemperAurum]

Everybody like to reference Ray Demarchi and the cow elk massacre he orchestrated.

Nobody talk about how Tembec massacre forest in EK. Nobody talks about how coal mines obliterated winter range and travel corridors. Nobody talk about trains killng game. Nobody talk about speeding vehicles killng game in EK. Nobody blame deep snow winters.

But everybody like to blame atv/utv hunter and out of towners going to EK to kill elk.
And if an Indian shoots a big ram at Line Creek Mine or at Salmo feding station they all get right savage.

White tail deer to blame for mule deer decline.
Now big bad wolf and cougar get blame.

The 4-23 region is an industrial disaster and a mismanaged debacle.

Dont you dare drive atv or vehicle on road closure.

What a disgrace.

A mecca of hunting opportunty is now a dead zone and industrial wasteland.

[Bugle M In]

Everybody like to reference Ray Demarchi and the cow elk massacre he orchestrated.

Nobody talk about how Tembec massacre forest in EK. Nobody talks about how coal mines obliterated winter range and travel corridors. Nobody talk about trains killng game. Nobody talk about speeding vehicles killng game in EK. Nobody blame deep snow winters.

But everybody like to blame atv/utv hunter and out of towners going to EK to kill elk.
And if an Indian shoots a big ram at Line Creek Mine or at Salmo feding station they all get right savage.

White tail deer to blame for mule deer decline.
Now big bad wolf and cougar get blame.

The 4-23 region is an industrial disaster and a mismanaged debacle.

Dont you dare drive atv or vehicle on road closure.

What a disgrace.

A mecca of hunting opportunty is now a dead zone and industrial wasteland.

110% right.
The issues in the EK have little to do with Hunters!!!
Roads were all open in the 70's and there were elk to be hunted (granted, not the mount of side roads we see now, and as you say, due to
industry!)

The issues in the EK are due to many "commercial businesses" and their cause and effects.
Don't forget development on some prime winter range!
Logging the shit out of the valleys.

I know we need these industries, but, we need some huge changes and how they are operated.
The destruction of habitat, or the major alterations of it due to these factors that is causing the demise.
AND, some stupid decisions by the ministry and how they have been managing the wildlife like elk thru their regulations, and also by
listening to some of those private interests and running the show they way they want it run, not what hunters would like to see it run.

Hunters get much of the blame, have to put up with the multitude or Regulations that are introduced, and yet the decline still happens.
Obvious it is related to other factors outside of hunting.
But those in authority who could make changes continue to not listen.

[hunter1947]

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Timber companies taking big timber for wintering areas for elk ,deer etc are a big factor as well on the decline of game animals the game animals depend on this timber
in the winter months to eat food and bed in the timber with more older growth gone.

Its getting harder for game animals to find timber to bed,,also the timber companies keep pushing roads further back making it accessible for hunters and the travel of wolves
on the roads.

What I have seen over my yrrs hunting in the mountains is there always were roads put in back into the back country from logging outfits the more roads that are established
the more the wolves like to travel.

[Ourea]

110% right.
The issues in the EK have little to do with Hunters!!!
Roads were all open in the 70's and there were elk to be hunted (granted, not the mount of side roads we see now, and as you say, due to
industry!)

The issues in the EK are due to many "commercial businesses" and their cause and effects.
Don't forget development on some prime winter range!
Logging the shit out of the valleys.

I know we need these industries, but, we need some huge changes and how they are operated.
The destruction of habitat, or the major alterations of it due to these factors that is causing the demise.
AND, some stupid decisions by the ministry and how they have been managing the wildlife like elk thru their regulations, and also by
listening to some of those private interests and running the show they way they want it run, not what hunters would like to see it run.

Hunters get much of the blame, have to put up with the multitude or Regulations that are introduced, and yet the decline still happens.
Obvious it is related to other factors outside of hunting.
But those in authority who could make changes continue to not listen.

More hunting regulations is the solution says the idiots! Hasn't worked before but this time....

[hunter1947]

https://nywolf.org/2019/12/blind-betrayal-bc-government-uses-collared-wolves-to-kill-entire-wolf-families/?fbclid=IwAR1v0iC9WNCSU8OS7vsCUorAZNboeWszGBiVoJK1 VjJJHbbivR-qrbkkngk#.XfjKvtVI1ni.facebook

[SemperAurum]

That is awesome. I would be happy to donate money to purchase and apply more of these collars. Just waiting on a bit more fresh snow and I will be going out with the dogs to sniff out the area of a wolf den. Now that deer hunting is out of the way I will be camping out just like you do Wayne. so far it is not too cold to camp out.
Thanks for this link.

[xlcc]

https://nywolf.org/2019/12/blind-betrayal-bc-government-uses-collared-wolves-to-kill-entire-wolf-families/?fbclid=IwAR1v0iC9WNCSU8OS7vsCUorAZNboeWszGBiVoJK1 VjJJHbbivR-qrbkkngk#.XfjKvtVI1ni.facebook
This program seems like the government is on the right track to control the wolf population.

[hunter1947]

https://www.tricitynews.com/solo-wolves-left-alive-as-packs-shot-from-air-trapped-1.24037217?fbclid=IwAR2Frui9kIUahB0oqM9N2ZI2H4MEop h798XwErcbvT3lhIxy3E2KvsrCUBI