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finngun
11-06-2019, 12:43 PM
If farmer,,(rancher) shoot a wolf or bear,,,who is killing his cattle,,,is he breaking a law if he does,not have a hunting license?
Or is that OK? Eye of the law.?...:roll:...f...gun

srthomas75
11-06-2019, 12:48 PM
I think most rancher type folks don't advertise what predators go missing. but a good point as I would assume they would need a license.

whitlers
11-06-2019, 12:54 PM
There is a crop/livestock protection clause I believe but its pretty tight knit. Would pretty much need to be viewing a wolf trying to take down a calf or something. I could be wrong

nebcfarmer
11-06-2019, 01:58 PM
When the CO’s can’t be bothered to investigate trespassers/hunters on your property, they won’t be getting a call when you have to shoot something.

Carrollizer
11-06-2019, 02:27 PM
Legally yes since they’re shooting animals

finngun
11-06-2019, 03:17 PM
When the CO’s can’t be bothered to investigate trespassers/hunters on your property, they won’t be getting a call when you have to shoot something.
Yep I agree..s s s works well I heard about farmer in port Alberni who shoot a bear with 22 just wounded it,,,he got moutfull from co...but no charce.. I have no another gun...said farmer...true..

rocksteady
11-06-2019, 03:21 PM
I am not sure if this is correct, that the rancher needs a license. I believe under the Livestock act they can protect their assets.. i doubt every rancher has a licence to shoot bears, wolves, coyotes or even gophers that are disrupting their way of life

Gateholio
11-06-2019, 03:22 PM
No, you don't need a hunting lic to protect your livestock, as you aren't hunting. However, there is a specific set of requirements that must be met to legally kill predators that are harming your livestock.

From my experience, how many CO resources dedicated to this topic tends to depend on the type of animal being targeted, with things like raccoons and coyotes not garnering much attention and on the other end of the spectrum would be grizzly bears.

AK-47
11-06-2019, 03:35 PM
Page 14 of regulations:

4Schedule B and C wildlife are known to
destroy property and/or are detrimental
to native wildlife. These species have fewer
restrictions regulating their hunting, killing
or capturing. Any capture or killing of these
species must still abide by provincial laws
regarding the humane treatment of animals.
4Schedule B lists animals that may be
captured or killed on private land only for
the specific purpose of protecting property;
no hunting license or open season is
required. On Crown land a person must
abide by the open seasons for Schedule B
species (see Regional Schedules for open
seasons). Schedule B species include coast
mole, snowshoe hare, lemmings, bushy-tailed
woodrat, deer mice, porcupine, northern
pocket gopher, yellow-bellied marmot, woodchuck,
Columbian ground squirrel, striped
skunk, raccoon, and spotted skunk.
4For all Schedule C species there are no
closed seasons or bag limits. Furthermore,
there are no requirements to remove edible
portions or report the killing to an officer.
Schedule C birds may be hunted using electronic
calls.
4You do not need a hunting licence to
capture, hunt or kill the following Schedule
C wildlife: American bullfrog, green frog,
snapping turtles, North American opossum,
eastern cottontail, European rabbit, nutria,
gray squirrels, fox squirrels, house sparrow,
European starling, and rock dove (domestic
pigeon).
4You do need a hunting licence to hunt
the following Schedule C wildlife UNLESS
you are hunting them on your property
or they are damaging your property:
Northwestern Crow, American Crow, blackbilled
magpie, brown-headed cowbird.

Yuritau
11-06-2019, 03:56 PM
The government's Farm Practices Guide has a collection of PDFs that touch on a lot of things, including Wildlife Damage Control (there's two different PDF's for that, one for the interior, and one for the south coast).

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/industry/agriculture-seafood/agricultural-land-and-environment/farm-practices-protection/farm-practices-guide (https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/industry/agriculture-seafood/agricultural-land-and-environment/farm-practices-protection/farm-practices-guide)

From the PDF for the interior:


Wildlife Control
Sometimes it may be necessary to remove certain species or specific animals which are causing too much damage to the crops or livestock being farmed. Removal of wildlife must be done in accordance with the Wildlife Act as well as any other relevant provincial and/or federal legislation. Farmers should take all reasonable steps to protect their crops or livestock from wildlife damage before applying for permits to remove or kill problem wildlife that are protected. Please consult the Ministry of Environment for more information about the Wildlife Act. Removal methods include:
• trapping (both live and lethal traps can be used);
• crossbow or bow and arrow;
• firearms to scare away or kill wildlife; and
• poisoning with registered rodenticide baits and/or fumigants (pocket gophers, ground squirrels).

butthead
11-06-2019, 06:38 PM
now thats the right way to explain it
right out of the regs
thanks for that
no opinions
just the facts

butthead
11-06-2019, 06:39 PM
Page 14 of regulations:

4Schedule B and C wildlife are known to
destroy property and/or are detrimental
to native wildlife. These species have fewer
restrictions regulating their hunting, killing
or capturing. Any capture or killing of these
species must still abide by provincial laws
regarding the humane treatment of animals.
4Schedule B lists animals that may be
captured or killed on private land only for
the specific purpose of protecting property;
no hunting license or open season is
required. On Crown land a person must
abide by the open seasons for Schedule B
species (see Regional Schedules for open
seasons). Schedule B species include coast
mole, snowshoe hare, lemmings, bushy-tailed
woodrat, deer mice, porcupine, northern
pocket gopher, yellow-bellied marmot, woodchuck,
Columbian ground squirrel, striped
skunk, raccoon, and spotted skunk.
4For all Schedule C species there are no
closed seasons or bag limits. Furthermore,
there are no requirements to remove edible
portions or report the killing to an officer.
Schedule C birds may be hunted using electronic
calls.
4You do not need a hunting licence to
capture, hunt or kill the following Schedule
C wildlife: American bullfrog, green frog,
snapping turtles, North American opossum,
eastern cottontail, European rabbit, nutria,
gray squirrels, fox squirrels, house sparrow,
European starling, and rock dove (domestic
pigeon).
4You do need a hunting licence to hunt
the following Schedule C wildlife UNLESS
you are hunting them on your property
or they are damaging your property:
Northwestern Crow, American Crow, blackbilled
magpie, brown-headed cowbird.


now thats the right way to explain it
right out of the regs
thanks for that
no opinions
just the facts

S.W.A.T.
11-06-2019, 07:37 PM
If farmer,,(rancher) shoot a wolf or bear,,,who is killing his cattle,,,is he breaking a law if he does,not have a hunting license?
Or is that OK? Eye of the law.?...:roll:...f...gun

According to my local CO it is in your best interest to have the appropriate licenses incase someone comes asking

BearSupreme
11-07-2019, 08:46 AM
According to previous cases, if you hunt without a license they take your license that you didnt use for 10 years

KodiakHntr
11-07-2019, 06:05 PM
Predator control in a farm situation isn’t “hunting”. Its protecting your investment. Licence not required, but a call to a CO before hand is always recommended but not required.

Shot a bear in my yard a few years ago, called the CO and told him. He said, “Do you have a tag? If so, you should probably cut it to make my life easier”.

My response was “Like f*ck I’m cutting my tag, I’m headed out out hunting in an hour, I would appreciate it if you had it removed before I get back.”


No bear when I got home, no further communication.

RiverOtter
11-07-2019, 07:47 PM
Predator control in a farm situation isn’t “hunting”. Its protecting your investment. Licence not required, but a call to a CO before hand is always recommended but not required.

Shot a bear in my yard a few years ago, called the CO and told him. He said, “Do you have a tag? If so, you should probably cut it to make my life easier”.

My response was “Like f*ck I’m cutting my tag, I’m headed out out hunting in an hour, I would appreciate it if you had it removed before I get back.”

No bear when I got home, no further communication.
As it should be when preds are hanging around a person's residence.

Trouble is, some preds are 'special' nowadays, so folks are backed into corners when they see other folks hung out to dry for defending livelihood and protecting their family.

Interesting times ahead, no doubt.