Retirement towns

[gutpile]

2 years before I can retire and starting to look for a small town to move to .
I was looking at Valmont, what's the area like to live there ? I'am also look at tumbler ridge or barrier .

[adriaticum]

Good question. I'm also interested.
I've done some research on this topic in the past year.

[huntingfamily]

Nelson and some of the smaller towns in the west kootenays are nice.

[Island Idiots]

Left Victoria for Castlegar. No regrets. Miss the ocean and a handful of folks who are glad to come out and visit.
When I go back to visit I can’t wait to leave. Rush hour is 8 AM to 8:02 AM.

[RiverOtter]

Annual snowfall/rainfall and average seasonal temps would be good place to start.

[Darksith]

Valemount is Beautiful, but its thick timber and steep mountains. Lots of winter. Nice town though, especially if you got a sled

Not much info on tumbler ridge

Barriere is also great, close to Kamloops, cheap houses still, lots of good hunting around. If I had to pick between the 3 it would be barriere hands down, but Tumbler might have more hunting opportunities, but its also further from a big center and gets more winter

[recoil]

I have some family that just moved to a rural property just south of Barriere earlier this year and they seem to like it a lot. Cheap place to live, close to Kamloops, no bugs, decent weather not too wet, not too dry...

[325]

Nelson is expensive - both real estate and taxes. Plus it's filled with SJW types.

[saskbooknut]

Think carefully about medical services when choosing a retirement location. Inevitably, as we age, we need more and more access to hospitals and good specialists.
Having to travel to Kelowna from Nelson for heart issues, as happened to a friend of mine, sucks big time.

[albravo2]

Lillooet has a nice climate and a nice hospital. Nice people too.

[LuckyHorseshoe]

Barriere would be good, there’s lots of rural property from Barriere to Kamloops. Also Chase, salmon arm, any of the small okanagan towns peachland, summer land. Gets a little busier in tourist time tho

[Wild one]

Look into the quality of the medical system in the different areas because a lot of places medical care sucks big time. Don’t be surprised if you find yourself traveling to the lower mainland for treatment or surgery or be stuck waiting stupid long periods compared to southern BC if you choose to go north

[Mudsey]

Little Fort and Clearwater, not a lot of services but not too far from Kamloops. Also really like Smithers.

[northof49]

Look into the quality of the medical system in the different areas because a lot of places medical care sucks big time. Don’t be surprised if you find yourself traveling to the lower mainland for treatment or surgery or be stuck waiting stupid long periods compared to southern BC if you choose to go north

^^^^this. Very important as you get older

[BgBlkDg]

Nelson is expensive - both real estate and taxes. Plus it's filled with SJW types.

Boy, is that the sad truth, more leftist-lib newcomers who all seem to be grant grubbers and hippies than hardpressed taxpayers!!!

I was going to move back, but, the health care situation has made me reconsider.

[RiverOtter]

East of Vernon ain't bad either, but we're capped out on old fogies. :mrgreen: :lol:

[BgBlkDg]

OK, sonny, your time is coming! ;)

[adriaticum]

I'd find some place Mennonites or Hutterites live and buy something close buy.
They really live self sufficiently for the most part.
They will outlive us.

[RiverOtter]

Nelson is expensive - both real estate and taxes. Plus it's filled with SJW types.


Boy, is that the sad truth, more leftist-lib newcomers who all seem to be grant grubbers and hippies than hardpressed taxpayers!!!

I was going to move back, but, the health care situation has made me reconsider.
Beautiful area, no doubt about it, but I'd never move there.

Spent a couple nights there again this spring on a road trip with my daughter....I'm good for another year or two again. Vernon ain't no treat anymore either, but I think I'd take it over Nelson, if forced between the two.

[RiverOtter]

OK, sonny, your time is coming! ;)
Hahaha, I'm good with that. ;) I've been blessed to have lived and worked in a part of the country many save their whole lives to retire and move to. I try not to take that for granted.

[Wild one]

I'd find some place Mennonites or Hutterites live and buy something close buy.
They really live self sufficiently for the most part.
They will outlive us.

This not advice I would follow lol

[adriaticum]

This not advice I would follow lol


Why not?
What experience do you have?
I'm curious.

[Jagermeister]

Little Fort and Clearwater, not a lot of services but not too far from Kamloops. Also really like Smithers.With the recent canfor mill closure, this might be a practical place. Has a hospital, but a shortage of doctors although Kamloops is not too far away. Close to some real good fishing at Bridge and Sheridan Lakes. Wells Grey Park out the back door. Not too far to the head end of Adams Lake. Probably has the best potential for those entering into retirement now.

[Wild one]

Why not?
What experience do you have?
I'm curious.

My present location has a large German Mennonite population and I would not recommend it as a retirement location do to poor medical services, you also lack trades and many other services so you must be fit and capable of your own problems, and overall unless you have friends or family in the community to help as a senior help/goods/services are lacking. Straight from the Mennonite’s in my area they colonized this are because of cheap farmland nothing more

As someone who has lived around both Mennonite and Hutterites(actually employed the son of the head of an Alberta Hutterite colony in the past) they don’t thrive because of what the location provides and actually avoid areas that attract people. They are only successful because they are a tight community that rely on one another and depend on their ability to work together

The true trend with these two groups is they usually choose areas that provide cheap farmland and limit their contact with people that can influence their people so they can preserve their beliefs and way of life not prime locations for comfort and services

[adriaticum]

My present location has a large German Mennonite population and I would not recommend it as a retirement location do to poor medical services, you also lack trades and many other services so you must be fit and capable of your own problems, and overall unless you have friends or family in the community to help as a senior help/goods/services are lacking. Straight from the Mennonite’s in my area they colonized this are because of cheap farmland nothing more

As someone who has lived around both Mennonite and Hutterites(actually employed the son of the head of an Alberta Hutterite colony in the past) they don’t thrive because of what the location provides and actually avoid areas that attract people. They are only successful because they are a tight community that rely on one another and depend on their ability to work together

The true trend with these two groups is they usually choose areas that provide cheap farmland and limit their contact with people that can influence their people so they can preserve their beliefs and way of life not prime locations for comfort and services


That's what I was thinking.
They are self sufficient.
They don't need government services.
This is what I like.
Land away from the flock. Don't care about what the location provides in terms of "comfort and services".

They keep their nose clean, don't look for government handouts and probably have some exemptions so government leaves them alone.
They don't have comfort and service and yet they keep going just fine.
Other than their "religiosity", I have respect for these groups.

[patbrennan]

Think carefully about medical services when choosing a retirement location. Inevitably, as we age, we need more and more access to hospitals and good specialists.
Having to travel to Kelowna from Nelson for heart issues, as happened to a friend of mine, sucks big time.

Just what I was thinking. I believe the main centres are Victoria, Vancouver and Kelowna (for heart and cancer related). A recent brush with atrial fibrillation (and my eyes) brought that reality home!

[Wild one]

That's what I was thinking.
They are self sufficient.
They don't need government services.
This is what I like.
Land away from the flock. Don't care about what the location provides in terms of "comfort and services".

They keep their nose clean, don't look for government handouts and probably have some exemptions so government leaves them alone.
They don't have comfort and service and yet they keep going just fine.
Other than their "religiosity", I have respect for these groups.

It’s a lot more complicated than that and things are more corrupt than it appears. In the case of Hutterite’s colonies net work between eachother to accomplish what they do as well. I will stop their because this has little to do with the OP ?

Either way unless you are one of them you won’t experience any benefit living near them because you will be an evil outsider that will not experience the same treatment

[Ride Red]

Spuzzum is nice this time of year :grin:

[wrenchhead]

Clearwater and valmont real estate prices should be quite attractive now with the mill shutting down.....

[blackbart]

Surrey. Your stuff will slowly get ripped off making the estate easier to manage for your kids......

[wildcatter]

Surrey. Your stuff will slowly get ripped off making the estate easier to manage for your kids......

Haha, I like that one!

[wildcatter]

Think carefully about medical services when choosing a retirement location. Inevitably, as we age, we need more and more access to hospitals and good specialists.
Having to travel to Kelowna from Nelson for heart issues, as happened to a friend of mine, sucks big time.

Well you know I never thought much about that, as I been always healthy, till I found out I have cancer.
I am now stuck in the city, even though I'm building my retirement place in the Cariboo.

[dapesche]

Nelson and some of the smaller towns in the west kootenays are nice.

Nelson is amazing but not a place you want to retire to when yiu have many nice options in the area.

Like 325 note, it's expensive and that'll eat into the pension. Castlegar, trail or grandforks would be cheaper options.

[Island Idiots]

Healthcare can be an issue. I know first hand. Living in Castlegar with heart issues means you might be doing the 4 hour ambulance ride to Kelowna in a blizzard, or the helo if they can fly and you need it bad enough. It doesn't bother me, I still love this place, surrounded by good hunting and fishing and boating and atving.
Kelowna has a great hospital and the one in Trail is expanding. A fair amount of new houses being built as folks sell homes in Kelowna and pay cash for a new place in the Gar. Banking a buttload of cash doing so.
If your seeking peace and quite and small town atmosphere, you have to make sacrifices. We don't have Cosco, but we don't have a lot of other stuff no one wants either.

[338win mag]

That's what I was thinking.
They are self sufficient.
They don't need government services.
This is what I like.
Land away from the flock. Don't care about what the location provides in terms of "comfort and services".

They keep their nose clean, don't look for government handouts and probably have some exemptions so government leaves them alone.
They don't have comfort and service and yet they keep going just fine.
Other than their "religiosity", I have respect for these groups.
You dont need to be part religious or ethnic group to be any of the above.

[weatherbyjunkie]

I have some family that just moved to a rural property just south of Barriere earlier this year and they seem to like it a lot. Cheap place to live, close to Kamloops, no bugs, decent weather not too wet, not too dry...

Out of most areas I would second Barriere. Close to Kamloops,which means things you need as you age. Still affordable. Also consider how close you will be to family or friends who would be helping younif needed-how close are they or will they be. My friends parents moved to Vancouver Island,as their father started having medical issues they found it very hard to juggle young kids and going to see him and assist him and their mother with medical needs and household stuff.

[REMINGTON JIM]

With the recent canfor mill closure, this might be a practical place. Has a hospital, but a shortage of doctors although Kamloops is not too far away. Close to some real good fishing at Bridge and Sheridan Lakes. Wells Grey Park out the back door. Not too far to the head end of Adams Lake. Probably has the best potential for those entering into retirement now.

SADLEY ! Gonna be some Cheap Real Estate there and around 100 Mile House Soon ! RJ

[Moose63]

Parksville/Qualicum would be my pick

[IslandWanderer]

Port Alberni would be good. Inexpensive homes and good access to hunting and fishing.

Maybe a bit too working class for some folks though.

[IslandWanderer]

Parksville/Qualicum would be my pick

Yes, mine too. No question.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Port Alberni would be good. Inexpensive homes and good access to hunting and fishing.

Maybe a bit too working class for some folks though.

Not WHEN the BIG earth quake happens ! :icon_frow RJ

[Surrey Boy]

Parksville/Qualicum would be my pick

As a homeowner in Qualicum, I'll say it's great if you have much money.

Beware of Parksville; it has a tent city that keeps coming back.

[Huntingtyler123]

I love lillooet or Clinton or Williams lake area myself. But I’m a long ways away from retiring but looking to buy up there in the future. My wife’s mom and dad now run old airport gardens in lillooet that there grandpa started. Beautiful place for sure

[Beachcomber]

Rossland. Though I am still thinking of it from the perspective of someone who skis and mountain bikes. Not sure that will be a feature when I am retired. Lillooet is great too.

[srthomas75]

Parksville/Qualicum would be my pick

it seems like at least half the population there is retired. very much like Sidney.

[finngun]

I moved 9years ago from nanaimo to blind bay. That was .exell move..near salmon arm,,80km from kammy.. .4seasons ,,not too dry all green..beautiful big lake shuswap..fishing hunting all near....great shooting range but if somebody doesn't, like small and quiet area dont come here.. house tax ..1000$ big house..
Before ya make big move...check blind bay..I know honest good reality here..(rare today )..give me shout..f..g

[finngun]

Parksville/Qualicum would be my pick
Nobody say anything about bc ferries YET? I have 21 years experience about those big boats..not always so nice.. well I was building many of them too..no leaks..f...g

[browningboy]

Tumbler Ridge is a wicked town, has most of everything, but for major hospital would be Dawson creek or Ft St John so a bit of a drive, but for outdoors it’s 4 seasons, lots of cheap housing etc... I’m not sure if I could retire there as it’s pretty small for me

[Mtn Wonderer]

My votes in for Chase, BC, moving to the Area this fall!!!

[Jagermeister]

SADLEY ! Gonna be some Cheap Real Estate there and around 100 Mile House Soon ! RJIf it's not one thing, then it is another and another. I speak of 100 Mile. No new news is good news.

[Jagermeister]

My votes in for Chase, BC, moving to the Area this fall!!!Shush...........!

[338win mag]

One of the things to consider in bc is....what are the land claims in the area? Since its all done on the "down low" you need to peel a few layers off and have a look as you may be "paying tax to an indian band and living under their rules".

Or you could simply be purchasing property that could be expropriated and given back to the band, leaving you with your retirement plans....a mess.

Look at the BC treaty commision site as the treaties that are on the books are there now but the rest of the treaties are a complete unknown....just sayin.....

[webley]

East of Vernon ain't bad either, but we're capped out on old fogies. :mrgreen: :lol:
You talking about me river otter.lol Steve!

[Ride Red]

Logan Lake is a nice area too. They only have a gas station, store and couple shops, but Kamloops is 30mins away on a great highway. We looked at a few properties up there last fall and they had new houses on view lots for $379k and older clean homes on lots starting low $200k. Atving, fishing/hunting, practically out your door, plus a range for rifle/trap minutes from town. The lml is really starting to suck balls and I’m on my hunt for an exit too.

[Redthies]

One of the things to consider in bc is....what are the land claims in the area? Since its all done on the "down low" you need to peel a few layers off and have a look as you may be "paying tax to an indian band and living under their rules".

Or you could simply be purchasing property that could be expropriated and given back to the band, leaving you with your retirement plans....a mess.

Look at the BC treaty commision site as the treaties that are on the books are there now but the rest of the treaties are a complete unknown....just sayin.....

This is sound advice. I found a fantastic property near Greenwood, but when I dug deeper (pun intended) I found that the mineral rights to the land belonged to someone else. Not likely that they were going to start a new mine on that 20 acres, but the could if they wanted to.

We have been searching for “the” spot for a long time. Somewhere within a 1-2 hour drive to Kelowna or Kamloops would be the best. At some point you WILL need a bigger hospital or bigger town amenities. The Kootenays are beautiful, but better left as a vacation spot in my opinion. In the end, it all comes down to how self sufficient you can be. I have Mennonite blood, so I can whittle a truck out of a stump, but I still need some access to good groceries etc. I don’t want to spend a lot of time in the truck driving long distances to buy necessities.

[BCBRAD]

No one mentioned Prince George. A regional center for goods , services and health care.

Small town vibe and you are an hour from Vancouver, if health issues require a trip there ( I fly down in the morning, do the appointment, and fly back and am home by 4 in the afternoon).

Housing prices are reasonable , compared to the lower mainland. You will be able to sell your house by one here (same type of place) and have lots of cash left over.

Hunting and fishing 30 minutes from town, two rifle ranges, one out to 1500 yards.

No line ups, traffic jams or other BS found in populated areas.

If long winters are a problem, the money you save will put you in a southern climate for most or all of the winter.

I quite like being retired in Prince George.

[adriaticum]

Another major thing that one has to consider is what land in British Columbia this government will simply hand over to first nations so they can play government.
Looks like Cariboo/Chilcotin is a pretty risky to buy property in.
One could find themselves in a sticky situation.
Some first nations are friendlier than others.
I don't know what happened to people who had property that was given to the Tsilcotin band.
It would be good to have some information about what's going on with this in this province.

[finngun]

Or dont buy anything ,,,even near any native area....that being said by experience,NOT rasist....loots of good indies..my friend lived in chase,, not nice time there on weekends..

Maybe best is rent a place first..then decide..stay or not?

[srupp]

Hmmm 110 % of BC is claimed by indians..overlap of claims.
Williams lake is surrounded by rez...
Its going to get messy...
Srupp
East of wl...Horsefly..likely..big lake..nice no land claims..

NEVER west of Fraser river..EVER

[adriaticum]

Here is an interesting excerpt from the BC Treaty Commission regarding who is First Nation.
"First Nations ancestry, connected to the Nation or accepted as a citizen of the particular nation"
This is an interesting tidbit.
This means that even non-first nations people can become citizens of the first "Nation".

Treaties will replace Indian Act-imposed band governments with a government authority for all citizens of a Nation. Each treaty will define who is eligible and who can be enrolled.
Most First Nations will have broader eligibility criteria than current status and non-status designations under the Indian Act. Eligibility criteria will likely require that an individual be of First Nation ancestry connected to the Nation or accepted as a citizen of the particular nation. All citizens of a First Nation can vote on a treaty.
Self-government strives to provide better opportunities for Indigenous people living within their traditional territory, while not excluding those Indigenous people who choose to live elsewhere.

[wideopenthrottle]

This is sound advice. I found a fantastic property near Greenwood, but when I dug deeper (pun intended) I found that the mineral rights to the land belonged to someone else. Not likely that they were going to start a new mine on that 20 acres, but the could if they wanted to.

We have been searching for “the” spot for a long time. Somewhere within a 1-2 hour drive to Kelowna or Kamloops would be the best. At some point you WILL need a bigger hospital or bigger town amenities. The Kootenays are beautiful, but better left as a vacation spot in my opinion. In the end, it all comes down to how self sufficient you can be. I have Mennonite blood, so I can whittle a truck out of a stump, but I still need some access to good groceries etc. I don’t want to spend a lot of time in the truck driving long distances to buy necessities.

you will be hard pressed to find any properties with mineral rights retained from what I understand

[wideopenthrottle]

Here is an interesting excerpt from the BC Treaty Commission regarding who is First Nation.
"First Nations ancestry, connected to the Nation or accepted as a citizen of the particular nation"
This is an interesting tidbit.
This means that even non-first nations people can become citizens of the first "Nation".

Treaties will replace Indian Act-imposed band governments with a government authority for all citizens of a Nation. Each treaty will define who is eligible and who can be enrolled.
Most First Nations will have broader eligibility criteria than current status and non-status designations under the Indian Act. Eligibility criteria will likely require that an individual be of First Nation ancestry connected to the Nation or accepted as a citizen of the particular nation. All citizens of a First Nation can vote on a treaty.
Self-government strives to provide better opportunities for Indigenous people living within their traditional territory, while not excluding those Indigenous people who choose to live elsewhere.



it is in their interest to keep their population numbers up to get more fed money so wouldn't surprise me if some smaller bands will be more accepting/inclusive

[S.W.A.T.]

Houston is the most affordable town in the province hands down especially with all the outdoor activities

[robert05]

Since the early 1900's no one owns the mineral rights to their property. B.C. Law, check the mineral rights act.

[Edzzed]

I have 3 years to go. What we did was buy a place in Logan lake when it was cheaper some 4 years ago. We fixed the place up on our holidays and sold it. made a 60,000 profit so we bought another fixer upper. So far we have installed new appliances, renovated the downstairs bathroom, some new flooring, Painted a lot of walls, Painted the outside deck. Have to do a couple more things and we will sell that and use the profit to buy another house. In 3 years we will sell our paid off Cloverdale house and get out of here. Logan lake is only 1/2 hour to Merritt, Ashcroft or Kamloops depending on which direction you drive. It can get hot to the point air conditioning is nice but you'd only need it for a week or two per year. Like all small towns they have a doctor shortage. And if you need rides or need to borrow something, "info for Logan lakers" on Facebook is very handy. We had a puppy go into labor and although we have a scale here in Cloverdale, We needed to borrow one for two weeks there and had multiple offers to loan us one. People are always willing to go out of their way to help. Gonna love living there full time. Very little crime in small cities, As I said to my wife, Locals can get shamed very quickly. Most theft is from tourists passing through town. There has only been one murder since they built the town. If they close the mine, property values will go down as people go elsewhere but that's life in a one industry town.

[Liptugger]

As a homeowner in Qualicum, I'll say it's great if you have much money.

Beware of Parksville; it has a tent city that keeps coming back.

222 Corfield about to open

[scott h]

Quote;
"Rossland. Though I am still thinking of it from the perspective of someone who skis and mountain bikes. Not sure that will be a feature when I am retired. Lillooet is great too."

Of course skiing and mountain biking will be a feature when you retire !!!! I just permanently checked out of the work force in May and I have no intention of stopping either sport. We sold our house in North Van in the summer of 2017 (thank God!) and bought in Coldstream and we haven't looked back! I love being on a ski hill in 20 min (door to lift) and the same time to a very nice shooting range. I'm typing this from the Queen Charlottes and will probably head back to the Okanagan in August......or not! LOL !!!

[Bobfl]

lived in valemount 2 yrs. great people and good place to live , hunting not great unless you get the elk draw in tete jaune. Moose are like the rest of the province, In short demand. I like valemount very much and golfing spectacular

[The Hermit]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Cranny or Fernie. Beauty mountains, lakes, rivers, most services including hospital, community rec centre, close to skiing, great mountain biking, real estate is relatively inexpensive, and still some of the best hunting and a great hunting community.

I'm in the Sidney area and it is great too. Different in almost every way but a cool town. The ferries suck...

[gunpower]

Moved out of that country in 1970 , been back twice, to grown up for me . too many summer homes on the lake now , plus the Albertans are thick as thieves in the summer months, just like the east Kootenays

[gunpower]

I grew up in Chase, moved out in 1970. It use to be a great place to live, what's it like now, I do not know !
Last time I was there , it had more than doubled in size, Esso station now a Ok tire shop, Hedges motel gone, Shell station gone and the old CPR station( where I lived )is long Gone !

[Jereky]

Just what I was thinking. I believe the main centres are Victoria, Vancouver and Kelowna (for heart and cancer related). A recent brush with atrial fibrillation (and my eyes) brought that reality home!

Kamloops is the tertiary medical centre for all the Thompson/Cariboo region which has everything from Anaheim lake up to Clearwater down to Lilioet and down to Merritt. We have all manner of specialists and surgeons and facilities here at the hospital. They regularly send folks to Kelowna for heart bypass grafts and angiosplasty. It’s quick and mostly an ambulance ride there and back for the day. Most communities have a small hospital or clinic that we regularly pick people up from and bring them in if they need medical treatment.

[Beachcomber]

Quote;
"Rossland. Though I am still thinking of it from the perspective of someone who skis and mountain bikes. Not sure that will be a feature when I am retired. Lillooet is great too."

Of course skiing and mountain biking will be a feature when you retire !!!! I just permanently checked out of the work force in May and I have no intention of stopping either sport. We sold our house in North Van in the summer of 2017 (thank God!) and bought in Coldstream and we haven't looked back! I love being on a ski hill in 20 min (door to lift) and the same time to a very nice shooting range. I'm typing this from the Queen Charlottes and will probably head back to the Okanagan in August......or not! LOL !!!

Well I hope you are right. I got dropped by an ancient looking German dude on a climb today. Made me think of my original comment. Mountain biking was certainly possible for him. I gotta raise my game though!

[patbrennan]

We talked about moving after retirement to get off the island and free up some equity. I asked my wife what she would do if I passed away before her if we lived in a different town(let's face it, most of our wives will outlive us). Her answer was move back to family/kids on the island. That prompted me to rethink my plans!
I also had a conversation on the beach flyfishing for salmon one morning with a fellow who had moved up island after retirement. He said it took them several years to feel integrated into the community and build up a circle of friends, etc. Something else to consider.
We (wife and I) had talked seriously about Kamloops or somewhere in the Okanagan (not Kelowna proper, maybe Summerland or Oliver). It still could happen, if we get fed up with living so close to Victoria or the kids move away.

[RiverOtter]

I'm a ways out for retirement yet, but hypothetically speaking, if I was sitting on a bunch of equity and I had an opportunity to move to another locale and free a bunch up to get more enjoyment out of my twilight years with my wife, I'd be all over it. If you're not financially hindered from staying put and doing everything you want to do do, then that's awesome, but if not I definitely wouldn't let a street address get in the way of that.


A person can waste a lot of valuable living time worrying about what 'might' happen tomorrow, when all we truly have is today. Life and 'plans' change in a heartbeat, literally.

[allan]

My wife and I have talked about moving out of the Fraser valley when we’re older, however after seeing people move out then want to move back. To be closer to their grandkids and getting tired of winter.

They have been shut out of the real estate market because the properties in the valley are going up in value faster then up country.

Our long term plan is to downsize when it’s time to move, keep a house in the valley or where ever most our kids decide to live. Then buy a small place up country that we don’t have to commit too. If we decide to stay up country most of the time. We will just rent out our house down in the valley until life dictates otherwise.

[j270wsm]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Cranny or Fernie. Beauty mountains, lakes, rivers, most services including hospital, community rec centre, close to skiing, great mountain biking, real estate is relatively inexpensive, and still some of the best hunting and a great hunting community.

I'm in the Sidney area and it is great too. Different in almost every way but a cool town. The ferries suck...

Fernie is a shit hole....maybe it’s my biased opinion but the town/houses are nothing special. Every store is overpriced, an average house that should be $300k is selling for $500k. One of my groomsmen just bought a 50yr old house on a tiny corner lot that needs a bunch of work for $580k. Through both my son’s minor hockey teams we have met some amazing people that are from fernie but 90% are ignorant self centred snobs that think they are better than everyone. I honestly wouldn’t piss on them if their face was on fire.

I guess coming from the LML....house in fernie could be considered cheap.

[dmaxtech]

Buddy at work has built themselves a retirement home up at Deka and also helped their daughter and son in-law build a house in the Fraser Valley with a suite for themselves. They plan to spend most of their time at Deka but can come down as needed. Win win I say.

[SSG-man]

No US destinations ?

[Hublocker]

I just spent a night with friends in D'Arcy, a cute little village at the head of Anderson Lake, a short drive from Pemberton. Nice houses, fruit trees, mountains all around and the lake of course. We spent a pleasant evening by the fire outside having dinner and a few drinks, hearing about the place and the neighbours.

"So how'd you like to have a place here?" I asked Mrs. as we were leaving.

"Never in a million years," she said. "Everybody is so bored, there is nothing to do so all they do is talk about each other."

[huntinnewbie]

We bought our first home in the Cloverdale area in 1977, was an 1 1/4 acres and it came with the mineral rights. When we sold in 1989 we had the option of retaining the rights or letting them go with the property.

[Baconator]

Smithers would be my choice. Plane to Vancouver every day, beautiful town and surrounding area and some very good Doctors who practise in Smithers for the lifestyle.

[curt]

We are starting to think about this as well some very good points that are #1 on my list is health care Kamloops and Kelowna both have trauma quality hospitals my original idea was kamloops but armstrong and enderby are worth considering too nice weather close to some major centers! If i wasn't worried about staying close to my girls I'd be in Fernie what a beauty of a spot!!

[Sportster]

I'm retiring next May.,can't effing wait. Born and raised on the North shore, don't think I mention what a sh*#t show it is here. Anyway been looking around the province and Alberta. Wouldn't mind being a bit north, I like what I see up in Quesnel and also Fort Assinibione Albert. Keep this thread going because I'm very interested in people's opinions are on different areas of the province.

[Jagermeister]

Curt brought up an interesting climate belief when he said, "my original idea was kamloops but armstrong and enderby are worth considering too nice weather ". Just because a location is north of another location does not mean that it's going to be milder to the south of harsher to the north. Having lived in the Okanagan/Thompson Valleys, I can attest to the fact that Kamloops weather is quite like the weather in Penticton whereas Kelowna weather or I should say climate is not like the former two. There are three zones in the Okanagan. From around Summerland south is a very dry climate with Osoyoos and Oliver being much drier. Summerland north to the Rutland area a little more winter than that to the south while Lake Country north to Salmon Arm a little more winter than the other two. Winters a little more winter, summers a little cooler than the further south or the South Thompson region. Kamloops, Cache Creek and Ashcroft are more atypical of the south Okanagan. One thing I remember about growing up in Penticton. You could wake up to 4-5 inches of snow in the morning (after Christmas as it rarely snowed for Christmas day), have slush on the ground at noon and water running down the curb/gutter at 4 in the afternoon.
You will find that moving away from your hunting partners and establishing new ones in nigh on impossible. Perhaps you were a solitary hunter. That too will change because as we age, the missus is fearful about our well being out alone in the bush. She will insist that you hunt with someone (not her) or stay home and be safe. And in some aspect, she is right. Solitary handling of the carcass of a deer becomes much harder to do with age, never mind a moose or elk.

[jonz]

Granisle on Babine Lake is a nice area. About an hour from Smithers, Houston or Burns Lake. Very cheap properties, probably the lowest prices in BC. Limited services though.

[dakoda62]

Check out the Kootenay's, left Kelowna 3 years and have not looked back, good fishing, good hunting, and friendly people. Lots to do, quadding, sledding. Prices are still relatively cheap, and jobs are available.

[wideopenthrottle]

No US destinations ?

parents went to mexico every winter for more than 30 years increasing from 6 weeks to 6 months as they hit full retirement...they have been going to Arizona now for the last 5 or 6 years instead but now with their age and health they are looking for something in Canada

[the_longwalker]

You could come up to Stewart, we measure snowfall in feet! :-)

[BStrachan]

How about 100 mile house? Small town lots of crown land for hunting.

[Dirty Steve]

Anything Shuswap/North Okanagan is pretty awesome....
If anybody need a hand let me know, local realtor ;)

[mpotzold]

Salmon Arm - No. 1 place in B.C.-6th in Canada:smile:
https://globalnews.ca/news/5747527/salmon-arm-top-canadian-cities-list/

[kootenaycarver]

We lived in in 9 different towns in BC and settled on Cranbrook as our retirement locale. Moved here in 2004, from Kamloops and have never regretted the move . An hour from Alberta, 45 minutes to USA, regional hospital. Probably the best variety of Big game hunting in the province. Doesn't have the brutal weather or bugs, of the North. Housing is affordable. If your an outdoor enthusiast the East Kootenay's have it all.

[Mishka]

I moved to Quesnel a year ago and love it. Bought a rural property. It's affordable, people are nice and there's a hospital. Quesnel has everything you need, plus PG is only an hour away. My folks moved here too. My Mom recently had a hip replacement in PG. - the surgery wait time was a lot less than in the lower mainland where she was before.

[Ruffed]

Very interesting thread and a lot of great information here. I don't know which town or towns would be best to retire in, but I will mention some of the trends that are coming which one may wish to consider. I know I will get some hate mail on this, but, I don't really care.....So here goes.....

1). I believe we are in Global Cooling and not Global Warming. We have had 3 successively colder/longer winters in North America and Europe. If this next winter is colder or longer, then that will be a confirmation of the trend and we can expect much colder and longer winters in the years ahead.

2). The civil unrest cycle is picking up, so moving forward it may be unsafe to live in any of the cities or towns where there are a lot of SJW's.

3). Food is going to become much more expensive for 2 reasons...because of the shortened growing seasons and eventually (2024) because of the decline in value of currencies as people lose trust in Governments.

4). Commodity prices (which include oil and gas) will have an interim peak in 2024, so expect much, much higher fuel costs going forward.

5). Broke Governments will start to go hard after your money and your assets and real estate is a sitting duck as you can't pick it up and move it....

6). The Canadian $ will move sharply lower vs. the U.S. $ over the next 5 years. That means food, gas, and everything priced in U.S. $'s will be much, much more expensive.

7.) We will move from deflation (currently) into a period of stagflation which means much higher costs for everything, with a slower economy...but this will not be a demand type of inflation, it will be a cost-push inflation.....the cost/push comes in because of higher commodity prices and higher taxes.....

These are the big trends that will take place over the coming years, so I just wanted to give people a heads up and something to think about as you make your life decisions. These trends are going to affect everybody and the people who feel that life has wronged them will petition Governments to do something for them, but Governments won't be able to help as they are broke. This is going to make for a lot of angry people and Governments have actively pointed at "the rich" who in their view don't give enough in taxes, as the primary problem for their ineptitude. This WILL give rise to civil unrest and may make richer people vulnerable.....I am making decisions now in my life based on these trends, as I want to protect myself and my kids. You can call me crazy, and you may disagree with me....but, just look at what's happening now, people are uneasy. There is a lot of anger out there. I see it everyday in drivers and just in people's attitudes. Everyone knows that something is wrong, but most can't put their finger on what it is. Governments will exploit this and further divide the people. I would urge everyone to seriously consider their financial choices in light of these trends. I hope this post helps at least one person.......If it did, them please pm me.... blessings to everyone....

[Downtown]

Very interesting thread and a lot of great information here. I don't know which town or towns would be best to retire in, but I will mention some of the trends that are coming which one may wish to consider. I know I will get some hate mail on this, but, I don't really care.....So here goes.....

1). I believe we are in Global Cooling and not Global Warming. We have had 3 successively colder/longer winters in North America and Europe. If this next winter is colder or longer, then that will be a confirmation of the trend and we can expect much colder and longer winters in the years ahead.

2). The civil unrest cycle is picking up, so moving forward it may be unsafe to live in any of the cities or towns where there are a lot of SJW's.

3). Food is going to become much more expensive for 2 reasons...because of the shortened growing seasons and eventually (2024) because of the decline in value of currencies as people lose trust in Governments.

4). Commodity prices (which include oil and gas) will have an interim peak in 2024, so expect much, much higher fuel costs going forward.

5). Broke Governments will start to go hard after your money and your assets and real estate is a sitting duck as you can't pick it up and move it....

6). The Canadian $ will move sharply lower vs. the U.S. $ over the next 5 years. That means food, gas, and everything priced in U.S. $'s will be much, much more expensive.

7.) We will move from deflation (currently) into a period of stagflation which means much higher costs for everything...but this will not be a demand type of inflation, it will be a cost-push inflation.....

These are the big trends that will take place over the coming years, so I just wanted to give people a heads up and something to think about as you make your life decisions. These trends are going to affect everybody and the people who feel that life has wronged them will be petition Governments to do something for them, but Governments won't be able to help as they are broke. This is going to make for a lot of angry people and Governments have actively pointed at "the rich" who in their view don't give enough in taxes, as the primary problem for their ineptitude. This WILL give rise to civil unrest and may make richer people vulnerable.....I am making decisions now in my life based on these trends, as I want to protect myself and my kids. You can call me crazy, and you may disagree with me....but, just look at what's happening now, people are uneasy. There is a lot of anger out there. I see it everyday in drivers and just in people's attitudes. Everyone knows that something is wrong, but most can't put their finger on what it is. Governments will exploit this and further divide the people. I would urge everyone to seriously consider their financial choices in light of these trends. I hope this post helps at least one person.......If it did, them please pm me.... blessings to everyone....

Why do I have the uneasy feeling you could be right ?

Cheers

[RiverOtter]

Quite a Revelation....could be a pun there.

[wildcatter]

Very interesting thread and a lot of great information here. I don't know which town or towns would be best to retire in, but I will mention some of the trends that are coming which one may wish to consider. I know I will get some hate mail on this, but, I don't really care.....So here goes.....

1). I believe we are in Global Cooling and not Global Warming. We have had 3 successively colder/longer winters in North America and Europe. If this next winter is colder or longer, then that will be a confirmation of the trend and we can expect much colder and longer winters in the years ahead.

2). The civil unrest cycle is picking up, so moving forward it may be unsafe to live in any of the cities or towns where there are a lot of SJW's.

3). Food is going to become much more expensive for 2 reasons...because of the shortened growing seasons and eventually (2024) because of the decline in value of currencies as people lose trust in Governments.

4). Commodity prices (which include oil and gas) will have an interim peak in 2024, so expect much, much higher fuel costs going forward.

5). Broke Governments will start to go hard after your money and your assets and real estate is a sitting duck as you can't pick it up and move it....

6). The Canadian $ will move sharply lower vs. the U.S. $ over the next 5 years. That means food, gas, and everything priced in U.S. $'s will be much, much more expensive.

7.) We will move from deflation (currently) into a period of stagflation which means much higher costs for everything, with a slower economy...but this will not be a demand type of inflation, it will be a cost-push inflation.....the cost/push comes in because of higher commodity prices and higher taxes.....

These are the big trends that will take place over the coming years, so I just wanted to give people a heads up and something to think about as you make your life decisions. These trends are going to affect everybody and the people who feel that life has wronged them will petition Governments to do something for them, but Governments won't be able to help as they are broke. This is going to make for a lot of angry people and Governments have actively pointed at "the rich" who in their view don't give enough in taxes, as the primary problem for their ineptitude. This WILL give rise to civil unrest and may make richer people vulnerable.....I am making decisions now in my life based on these trends, as I want to protect myself and my kids. You can call me crazy, and you may disagree with me....but, just look at what's happening now, people are uneasy. There is a lot of anger out there. I see it everyday in drivers and just in people's attitudes. Everyone knows that something is wrong, but most can't put their finger on what it is. Governments will exploit this and further divide the people. I would urge everyone to seriously consider their financial choices in light of these trends. I hope this post helps at least one person.......If it did, them please pm me.... blessings to everyone....

I believe you are right on the money, money that will be in short supply for a large part of the population and it will eventually spill out in the open.
Hopefully by that time I will be well established in my place of retirement and have some reserves in cash, food and ammo.
Self sufficiency (as much as possible), will be the most important qualities one can have, but you can never be 100% self sufficient.
Trade and barter, knowing a few people you can trust will make all the difference.
Of course the government will anticipate all this, hence #5 on your list is something that will be a problem.

[Surrey Boy]

222 Corfield about to open

Hasn't that been a disaster? Tent cities keep forming, but now there's a hobo condo serving as a base of theft operations. Cars and sheds broken into nightly.

[finngun]

Never settele,down,before seeing,BLIND BAY..F...g

[hunter1947]

Cranbrook or Creston are the small towns that are very nice to retire..

[koothunter]

Very interesting thread and a lot of great information here. I don't know which town or towns would be best to retire in, but I will mention some of the trends that are coming which one may wish to consider. I know I will get some hate mail on this, but, I don't really care.....So here goes.....

1). I believe we are in Global Cooling and not Global Warming. We have had 3 successively colder/longer winters in North America and Europe. If this next winter is colder or longer, then that will be a confirmation of the trend and we can expect much colder and longer winters in the years ahead.

2). The civil unrest cycle is picking up, so moving forward it may be unsafe to live in any of the cities or towns where there are a lot of SJW's.

3). Food is going to become much more expensive for 2 reasons...because of the shortened growing seasons and eventually (2024) because of the decline in value of currencies as people lose trust in Governments.

4). Commodity prices (which include oil and gas) will have an interim peak in 2024, so expect much, much higher fuel costs going forward.

5). Broke Governments will start to go hard after your money and your assets and real estate is a sitting duck as you can't pick it up and move it....

6). The Canadian $ will move sharply lower vs. the U.S. $ over the next 5 years. That means food, gas, and everything priced in U.S. $'s will be much, much more expensive.

7.) We will move from deflation (currently) into a period of stagflation which means much higher costs for everything, with a slower economy...but this will not be a demand type of inflation, it will be a cost-push inflation.....the cost/push comes in because of higher commodity prices and higher taxes.....

These are the big trends that will take place over the coming years, so I just wanted to give people a heads up and something to think about as you make your life decisions. These trends are going to affect everybody and the people who feel that life has wronged them will petition Governments to do something for them, but Governments won't be able to help as they are broke. This is going to make for a lot of angry people and Governments have actively pointed at "the rich" who in their view don't give enough in taxes, as the primary problem for their ineptitude. This WILL give rise to civil unrest and may make richer people vulnerable.....I am making decisions now in my life based on these trends, as I want to protect myself and my kids. You can call me crazy, and you may disagree with me....but, just look at what's happening now, people are uneasy. There is a lot of anger out there. I see it everyday in drivers and just in people's attitudes. Everyone knows that something is wrong, but most can't put their finger on what it is. Governments will exploit this and further divide the people. I would urge everyone to seriously consider their financial choices in light of these trends. I hope this post helps at least one person.......If it did, them please pm me.... blessings to everyone....


Been a year and a half since Ruffed made this post. Crazy how true his words are and how much is already happening! Maybe you can look into that crystal ball of yours and tell us how much longer we have to put up with the Turd!.....And where I can get a 200" muley in 2021.

[dapesche]

Been a year and a half since Ruffed made this post. Crazy how true his words are and how much is already happening! Maybe you can look into that crystal ball of yours and tell us how much longer we have to put up with the Turd!.....And where I can get a 200" muley in 2021.

Sounds like a Martin armstrong subscriber.

[twoSevenO]

Nothing makes my eyes roll faster on this site than people saying "we had 3 cold winters therefore global warming isnt a thing"

*face palm face palm*

Its GLOBAL warming. It has nothing to do with YOUR winter or any winter. It's the AVERAGE GLOBAL temperature. You can have a -100 winter it doesnt mean shit when the rest of the globe is getting hotter on average.

[jac]

Nothing makes my eyes roll faster on this site than people saying "we had 3 cold winters therefore global warming isnt a thing"

*face palm face
Its GLOBAL warming. It has nothing to do with YOUR winter or any winter. It's the AVERAGE GLOBAL temperature. You can have a -100 winter it doesnt mean shit when the rest of the globe is getting hotter on average.


your 100% correct on this one

[Salty]

Nothing makes my eyes roll faster on this site than people saying "we had 3 cold winters therefore global warming isnt a thing"

*face palm face palm*

Its GLOBAL warming. It has nothing to do with YOUR winter or any winter. It's the AVERAGE GLOBAL temperature. You can have a -100 winter it doesnt mean shit when the rest of the globe is getting hotter on average.

Yes. Plus the over all warming has thrown the jet stream off kilter a lot more often. In stead of smooth lines curvy lines on the map running east and west there's big dips north (bringing a lot colder than normal weather) and south (bringing a lot hotter than normal weather). In other words in addition to the average temperature being slightly warmer abnormal weather is happening more than it used to.

[albravo2]

Yes. Plus the over all warming has thrown the jet stream off kilter a lot more often. In stead of smooth lines curvy lines on the map running east and west there's big dips north (bringing a lot colder than normal weather) and south (bringing a lot hotter than normal weather). In other words in addition to the average temperature being slightly warmer abnormal weather is happening more than it used to.

C'mon Salty, everybody knows climate change is a libtard construct with no scientific basis, designed to make sheeple conform. As if insignificant humans could actually alter God's plan for this earth, ha!

[Salty]

albravo you need to up your game... throw the Deep state, Soros eating babies and AOC is the devil's daughter. Then people will take notice. LMAO!

[albravo2]

albravo you need to up your game... throw the Deep state, Soros eating babies and AOC is the devil's daughter. Then people will take notice. LMAO!

Dude, those are givens. Everyone knows that stuff is true. I thought we were discussing things that might or might not be true. Like climate change. And the shape of earth.

[Salty]

We should embrace climate change in a couple years Ft. Nelson is going to be a retirement meca. Not too close to the edge of the earth either so its got that goin for it ...

[Iron Glove]

Dude, those are givens. Everyone knows that stuff is true. I thought we were discussing things that might or might not be true. Like climate change. And the shape of earth.

Guys, this post is about where to retire, not Global Conspiracies. 8-)
Obviously tho', great minds like Salty and I have chosen Hope as a great place to retire ergo it must be a good place. :D
Now, back to the shape of the Earth, we all know it's flat, otherwise the Australians would've all fallen off.

[BRvalley]

well didn't read through 11 pages of replies, just got the tail end of the deep state conspiracies lol

but after living in Chetwynd area, I think that would be at the top of my list for where i want to retire.....chetwynd, fsj, tumbler, I could see myself living out my days quite happily around there

[Salty]

Guys, this post is about where to retire, not Global Conspiracies. 8-)
Obviously tho', great minds like Salty and I have chosen Hope as a great place to retire ergo it must be a good place. :D
Now, back to the shape of the Earth, we all know it's flat, otherwise the Australians would've all fallen off.

Hope's not just the the little whistle stop where the highways branch out anymore. We've even got a 7-11 now!

[Salty]

well didn't read through 11 pages of replies, just got the tail end of the deep state conspiracies lol

but after living in Chetwynd area, I think that would be at the top of my list for where i want to retire.....chetwynd, fsj, tumbler, I could see myself living out my days quite happily around there

Looked at Tumbler Ridge pretty closely several years back to do with an opportunity that got trumped by another one. Anyways my take away its a nice little town more services than most it size like a lot of ex company towns. And some fantastic hunting opportunities.

[Norwestalta]

Everytime I drive thru blue river and barriere I think this is where I'd like to be. Toad river is another one that appeals to me as well

[wildcatter]

Been a year and a half since Ruffed made this post. Crazy how true his words are and how much is already happening! Maybe you can look into that crystal ball of yours and tell us how much longer we have to put up with the Turd!.....And where I can get a 200" muley in 2021.

Since my last post on this thread I am now retired in the Cariboo, 20 minutes from 100 Mile and so far it's been great.
I drive to town every 7-10 days for shopping and enjoying the quite, clean air here.
Some locals say there are some big mulies around and real estate is still cheap.

[Surrey Boy]

I wonder if Qualicum will still be a retirement town in thirty years when I retire.

[Salty]

I wonder if Qualicum will still be a retirement town in thirty years when I retire.

I found Qualicum to be by far the bitchiest community on the island. Newspapers constantly full of fights about nothing, entitled attitudes, turn everythig down everyone got a big grouch on where ever you go in town. It won't ever be much unless a lot of things change there. But probably always somewhat of a retirement town.

[Surrey Boy]

I found Qualicum to be by far the bitchiest community on the island. Newspapers constantly full of fights about nothing, entitled attitudes, turn everythig down everyone got a big grouch on where ever you go in town. It won't ever be much unless a lot of things change there. But probably always somewhat of a retirement town.

Isn't that the collective nature of retirees? Especially Baby Boomers, the most selfish generation in history.

[Salty]

It sure can be

[Iron Glove]

Isn't that the collective nature of retirees? Especially Baby Boomers, the most selfish generation in history.

Sounds like you're jealous of us. :mrgreen:

[xlcc]

Retirement,I always thought that was a figment of my imagination.I guess I'm there now even thou I still do the odd job when I feel like it,as long as it is short.
I always liked my work,whatever I was doing just could never figure out why people would work more than 6 months in a year when there is all this neat stuff to do with your time like going hunting etc.I guess this is why retirement kinda' snuck up on me.
A place to retire to,mmmm.Never really thought about that.If I didn't like where I was livin' I'd of done something about that a long time ago.
As for having medical stuff close at hand our medical system will fly you in an emergency to a big city.There are lots of places in this province where folks live their whole life in a remote setting.You don't need to be near a city to survive.I have had a few accidents over time.Some in remote spots.I'm still alive.I don't worry about stuff like that.We all gotta die someday.When your number is up,it's your turn.
I don't really want to suggest a place to live 'cause that is kinda' personal but if you don't like where your livin' now I'd definately do something about it sooner than later.

[wildcatter]

Isn't that the collective nature of retirees? Especially Baby Boomers, the most selfish generation in history.

Oh don't worry, you will get there too some day.
And what will the younger generation call you?

[xlcc]

Retirement,I always thought that was a figment of my imagination.I guess I'm there now even thou I still do the odd job when I feel like it,as long as it is short.<br>I always liked my work,whatever I was doing just could never figure out why people would work more than 6 months in a year when there is all this neat stuff to do with your time like going hunting etc.I guess this is why retirement kinda' snuck up on me.<br>A place to retire to,mmmm.Never really thought about that.If I didn't like where I was livin' I'd of done something about that a long time ago.<br>As for having medical stuff close at hand our medical system will fly you in an emergency to a big city.There are lots of places in this province where folks live their whole life in a remote setting.You don't need to be near a city to survive.I have had a few accidents over time.Some in remote spots.I'm still alive.I don't worry about stuff like that.We all gotta die someday.When your number is up,it's your turn.<br>I don't really want to suggest a place to live 'cause that is kinda' personal but if you don't like where your livin' now I'd definately do something about it sooner than later.&nbsp;<br><br>

[quadrakid]

Always thought it would be nice to spend some retirement years in a small community on the mainland,then came grandchildren. Grammas going nowhere.

[Surrey Boy]

Sounds like you're jealous of us. :mrgreen:

I admire the classical "leisure with virtue" goal of retirement, whereby a man would accept his decline with age but still contribute to society, albeit lightly.

Modern retirement seems purely hedonistic, with the aim to consume as much pleasure as possible before death. Qualicum, as Salty mentioned, is an intense model of this, where old folks who weren't bothered to raise children or even stay married now expect to be cared for by a contracting population and lament both the cost of services and the foreigners that provide them. British expatriates whose home country wasn't good enough and neither is their adopted one, decrying the socialism that ruined Britain but demanding the same government involvement here.

None of my grandparents retired before losing their driving licences, even as my grandmother was 79 and older than most of the seniors she cared for.

[Surrey Boy]

Oh don't worry, you will get there too some day.
And what will the younger generation call you?

Confused cowards. The singular virtue of Millennials seems to be that we're self-depreciating, so we likely won't mind.

[The Donald]

Confused cowards. The singular virtue of Millennials seems to be that we're self-depreciating, so we likely won't mind.

Mr doom and gloom, me retired young worked hard, payed my way, never took any handouts so **** you, guess i am timing out again

[Jagermeister]

Isn't that the collective nature of retirees? Especially Baby Boomers, the most selfish generation in history.My generation paid our way to retirement, will yours?

[wildcatter]

Confused cowards. The singular virtue of Millennials seems to be that we're self-depreciating, so we likely won't mind.

Good to know;)

[wildcatter]

Mr doom and gloom, me retired young worked hard, payed my way, never took any handouts so **** you, guess i am timing out again

Exactly, we are not asking for any handouts and most of us raised a family and were solid contributors to society.
I know the goverment would like to work us to death, so they wouldn't have to pay us back.

Wrong reply, wanted to reply to Jagermeister instead, so disregard.

[wildcatter]

My generation paid our way to retirement, will yours?

Exactly, we are not asking for any handouts and most of us raised a family and were solid contributors to society.
I know the goverment would like to work us to death, so they wouldn't have to pay us back.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Lillooet has a nice climate and a nice hospital. Nice people too.

The BEST part of Lilly is Fort Berens Winery ! They make a Good Meritage Wine - jmo RJ

[Treed]

Delete to complete.

[Iron Glove]

I admire the classical "leisure with virtue" goal of retirement, whereby a man would accept his decline with age but still contribute to society, albeit lightly.

Modern retirement seems purely hedonistic, with the aim to consume as much pleasure as possible before death. Qualicum, as Salty mentioned, is an intense model of this, where old folks who weren't bothered to raise children or even stay married now expect to be cared for by a contracting population and lament both the cost of services and the foreigners that provide them. British expatriates whose home country wasn't good enough and neither is their adopted one, decrying the socialism that ruined Britain but demanding the same government involvement here.

None of my grandparents retired before losing their driving licences, even as my grandmother was 79 and older than most of the seniors she cared for.

I'll respectfully disagree with your warped opinion.
Possibly you only come into contact with the "hedonistic crowd" but our experience is that many, if not most retirees of our generation, yes, those much loved and respected "Baby Boomers" are quite the opposite.
We get involved in the Community, donate funds and labour to worthwhile causes, help in raising our Grandkids whilst also supporting our children when and where possible.
We spend quite a bit of our life's savings enjoying our retirement thus helping with employment and of course contributing a lot into the tax bucket of which a lot goes to support you Millenials and your offspring.
Other than the pittance we get from CPP ( which we paid for, it wasn't free ) we rely on our savings, acquired from working hard, to fund our "hedonistic' life styles.
Don't worry, some day you'll get there too. :lol:

[tigrr]

In the search find a doctor who is taking on new patients or you could be sitting in emergency room for hours just to refill a prescription.
Or when you find the town you would like to check out see if the doctor you have now can give you a referral to a doctor in that town.
Know why the interest rates are so low? The elite owners want to break the backs of anyone who has savings.
They don't want anyone to have money but them. Buy land/rental homes and get more back.

[adriaticum]

I think generations are shaped by their environment and resources more than anything else.
In 1800, North America was still largely unexplored and was perceived to have unlimited resources.
The generation that explored it, mapped it, produced a generation that started to benefit from it's resources.
Than that generation produced another generation that kept exploting it and building wealth.
1, 2 more generations and you have baby boomers. They were born into less wealth but higher potential after the war.
And after the war economy was growing rapidly for 20-30 years and boomers built wealth.
When you become wealthy you become less smart in many ways, except in making more money.
You can't cook anymore, fix your car, fix your plumbing, build your house, grow your food.
And you can't raise your children.
You don't know anymore that you don't have to go to a hospital for a cut.
The excuse is always "it's cheaper to pay someone else to do it".
Baby boomers did lots of things right, except raise the next generation properly.
Someone else did that.
Now it's become popular again to cook your own food, fix your car, grow your tomatoes etc.
Cycle repeats.
The only issue now is that the population has tripled since baby boomers were born.
All of our problems around the world come down to one simple thing.
Over population.
If we don't fix that, we're done.
But we humans are a lot more animal and a lot less smart than we like to think.
We behave much like rats, we overcrowd a place and then shit in our own soup.
Then we die off in pursuit of convenience.

[Arctic Lake]

Geeeezzzz. This thread took a turn ! How about someone start a thread “ Generations “. Where the direction of past generations reveal themselves and why they lived life the way they did . I think it cycles . Check out the book. Generations by
William Strauss and Neil Howe

[Jagermeister]

Okay, back on track.
Hunter1947 mentioned Creston and this was pretty high on the list. The only reason that I’m not there is I have been unable to convince her to move there.
I really have nothing to complain about where I am now. Short trip to Kamloops for shopping and my favourite, Kamloops Target Sports Association.
Anyone who wants to relocate here is screwed. Real estate availablity is virtually nonexistent and house that come on the marketplace are being sold above asking price. They usually don’t last long and have multiple offers.
There is a constant parade of lookylous with pink and white plates cruising the area.

[Surrey Boy]

I'll respectfully disagree with your warped opinion.
Possibly you only come into contact with the "hedonistic crowd" but our experience is that many, if not most retirees of our generation, yes, those much loved and respected "Baby Boomers" are quite the opposite.
We get involved in the Community, donate funds and labour to worthwhile causes, help in raising our Grandkids whilst also supporting our children when and where possible.
We spend quite a bit of our life's savings enjoying our retirement thus helping with employment and of course contributing a lot into the tax bucket of which a lot goes to support you Millenials and your offspring.
Other than the pittance we get from CPP ( which we paid for, it wasn't free ) we rely on our savings, acquired from working hard, to fund our "hedonistic' life styles.
Don't worry, some day you'll get there too. :lol:

Well, seeing as how we fundamentally disagree on most worldviews and philosophies, and that we routinely draw opposite conclusions from the same lesson, I wouldn't know where to start. You're ever the optimist.

[The Hermit]

I would look closely at Kimberly. Close to Cranbrook hospital and big box stores when you need/want them, local skiing, golf, hunting etc. Small acreages around that are still affordable as long as you don't have to be on a river/lake. Check out Landquest for some listings that aren't also on MLS.

[The Hermit]

I think generations are shaped by their environment and resources more than anything else.
In 1800, North America was still largely unexplored and was perceived to have unlimited resources.
The generation that explored it, mapped it, produced a generation that started to benefit from it's resources.
Than that generation produced another generation that kept exploting it and building wealth.
1, 2 more generations and you have baby boomers. They were born into less wealth but higher potential after the war.
And after the war economy was growing rapidly for 20-30 years and boomers built wealth.
When you become wealthy you become less smart in many ways, except in making more money.
You can't cook anymore, fix your car, fix your plumbing, build your house, grow your food.
And you can't raise your children.
You don't know anymore that you don't have to go to a hospital for a cut.
The excuse is always "it's cheaper to pay someone else to do it".
Baby boomers did lots of things right, except raise the next generation properly.
Someone else did that.
Now it's become popular again to cook your own food, fix your car, grow your tomatoes etc.
Cycle repeats.
The only issue now is that the population has tripled since baby boomers were born.
All of our problems around the world come down to one simple thing.
Over population.
If we don't fix that, we're done.
But we humans are a lot more animal and a lot less smart than we like to think.
We behave much like rats, we overcrowd a place and then shit in our own soup.
Then we die off in pursuit of convenience.


Cogent piece and I agree with the key tennant that overpopulation is the biggest problem humans and the planet face. With 7 billion of us our first world life style is simply not possible for the masses. We need a massive die off of about 4 billion people over the next 100 years if we are to survive. (just making up numbers wtihout science or mathematical projections but it make sense to me) Any volunteers?? I'd like to make some recommendations! LOL

[adriaticum]

Cogent piece and I agree with the key tennant that overpopulation is the biggest problem humans and the planet face. With 7 billion of us our first world life style is simply not possible for the masses. We need a massive die off of about 4 billion people over the next 100 years if we are to survive. (just making up numbers wtihout science or mathematical projections but it make sense to me) Any volunteers?? I'd like to make some recommendations! LOL


Nobody needs to die prematurely and we don't need infinity stones to solve the problem.
Just brains and agreement.

[Linksman313]

Surrey. Your stuff will slowly get ripped off making the estate easier to manage for your kids......
Better add Nelson/Trail/Castlegar/Grand Forks/Christina Lake/Rock Creek to that list. These communities (many of which i have lived in and currently reside) town councils are full of SJW's and a welcome one and all addiction ridden/homeless/street criminals or any mix of the aforementioned 3 with open arms.

[Surrey Boy]

Exactly, we are not asking for any handouts and most of us raised a family and were solid contributors to society.
I know the goverment would like to work us to death, so they wouldn't have to pay us back.

So stop increasing government, so it won't have the power to work you to death. At least turn on foreigners rather than your own country.

[Redthies]

Better add Nelson/Trail/Castlegar/Grand Forks/Christina Lake/Rock Creek to that list. These communities town councils are full of SJW's.

Born in Trail General, lived in Warfield as a young kid and later up the hill in Rossland. Ties to Rock Crack.

I gotta ask... what is a “SJW”?

I’m currently looking for an affordable acreage and have concluded that they don’t exist (at least one that meets my simple criteria) within the boundaries of the Turds new mortgage laws. If he hadn’t helped out those that live in Vancouver and Toronto whilst simultaneously ****ing every rural living Canadian in the ass, I’d be able to spend double what I can now.

[Salty]

Well, seeing as how we fundamentally disagree on most worldviews and philosophies, and that we routinely draw opposite conclusions from the same lesson, I wouldn't know where to start. You're ever the optimist.

Iron Glove is an optimist for sure. But its easy to be an optimist when you do small things here and there to make society or community better. Little things like clearing the neighbour's driveway. Waving at the old fart when you see that he made a mistake and didn't see you when he cut you off in the parking lot instead of giving them the finger and ruining his day you get a thank you back. Volunteering in the community once in a while, cleaning up a mess in the bush that you came on, little things like this. Pessimism comes from a feeling of helplessness, seeing things that aren't right in your view and going as far as bitching about them but no further. Its harder to become pessimistic when you do a few things here and there that help solve problems. In fact by nature you become a little more optimistic.

This has nothing to do with generation. There are optimistic boomers and pessimistic boomers. Those that care about their community and those that care about themselves. Its the same with any generation. Unfortunately caring about others caring about community, caring about anything except one's self is on the decrease these days through all generations. Social media and particularly compartmentalization mainly by political views created by social media has bread selfish self absorbed people ever on the hunt for things that they see as wrong so they can post it to the choir, rant and rave, but never consider to actually do something constructive about it. And never accept that their world view is not and never will be the views of a lot of other people, and that their views will be of the minority at times and won't get their way. This is what a large portion of our society be they bommers to gen z in the last 20 years have come to and how they live, in pessimism.

[Surrey Boy]

Social Justice Warrior. A person who crusades for politically correct causes in order to receive a plenary indulgence for individual failure.

[Salty]

Social Justice Warrior. A person who crusades for politically correct causes in order to receive a plenary indulgence for individual failure.

For the most part they're just another example of a selfish self absorbed person. They do community work all right, but only to promote their views that must not be compromised. Considering others views is not on if it doesn't fall into the confines of their narrow world views.

[wideopenthrottle]

aka slowflakes or "woke"...I like woke-flakes as a term for them

[wildcatter]

The BEST part of Lilly is Fort Berens Winery ! They make a Good Meritage Wine - jmo RJ

I passed by so many times but never stopped.
What about prices Jim, is it expensive?

[wildcatter]

So stop increasing government, so it won't have the power to work you to death. At least turn on foreigners rather than your own country.

Haha good luck with that!
You have any solutions?

[whognu]

Iron Glove is an optimist for sure. But its easy to be an optimist when you do small things here and there to make society or community better. Little things like clearing the neighbour's driveway. Waving at the old fart when you see that he made a mistake and didn't see you when he cut you off in the parking lot instead of giving them the finger and ruining his day you get a thank you back. Volunteering in the community once in a while, cleaning up a mess in the bush that you came on, little things like this. Pessimism comes from a feeling of helplessness, seeing things that aren't right in your view and going as far as bitching about them but no further. Its harder to become pessimistic when you do a few things here and there that help solve problems. In fact by nature you become a little more optimistic.

This has nothing to do with generation. There are optimistic boomers and pessimistic boomers. Those that care about their community and those that care about themselves. Its the same with any generation. Unfortunately caring about others caring about community, caring about anything except one's self is on the decrease these days through all generations. Social media and particularly compartmentalization mainly by political views created by social media has bread selfish self absorbed people ever on the hunt for things that they see as wrong so they can post it to the choir, rant and rave, but never consider to actually do something constructive about it. And never accept that their world view is not and never will be the views of a lot of other people, and that their views will be of the minority at times and won't get their way. This is what a large portion of our society be they bommers to gen z in the last 20 years have come to and how they live, in pessimism.


ding ding ding....we have a winner here folks


cut this out and stick it to your fridge

for the most part, and for the vast majority of people, we have a choice to operate in a negative or in a positive sphere

in my never humble opinion, life is far too short to dwell in the negative shite we can all find ourselves in

it sucks you in..............and like you, i have to fight the urge every single day

further, keep in mind that there are many, many people who are suffering in silence due to personal hardship caused by a myriad of seen and unforeseen circumstances

count your blessing if you have them, and be open minded to those not as fortunate

nice work salty

chris

[adriaticum]

I have many towns on my radar as a possible retirement destination.
Over the past 5 years I've watched a number of them, traveled to a few of them.
But one thing is for sure, I would not move to any of them without first spending some time there.
Because anything, except spending time there, is just advertising.
Some towns are downright hostile to strangers, some are big city wannabees.
So you never know, until you get there.

[quadrakid]

Iron Glove is an optimist for sure. But its easy to be an optimist when you do small things here and there to make society or community better. Little things like clearing the neighbour's driveway. Waving at the old fart when you see that he made a mistake and didn't see you when he cut you off in the parking lot instead of giving them the finger and ruining his day you get a thank you back. Volunteering in the community once in a while, cleaning up a mess in the bush that you came on, little things like this. Pessimism comes from a feeling of helplessness, seeing things that aren't right in your view and going as far as bitching about them but no further. Its harder to become pessimistic when you do a few things here and there that help solve problems. In fact by nature you become a little more optimistic.

This has nothing to do with generation. There are optimistic boomers and pessimistic boomers. Those that care about their community and those that care about themselves. Its the same with any generation. Unfortunately caring about others caring about community, caring about anything except one's self is on the decrease these days through all generations. Social media and particularly compartmentalization mainly by political views created by social media has bread selfish self absorbed people ever on the hunt for things that they see as wrong so they can post it to the choir, rant and rave, but never consider to actually do something constructive about it. And never accept that their world view is not and never will be the views of a lot of other people, and that their views will be of the minority at times and won't get their way. This is what a large portion of our society be they bommers to gen z in the last 20 years have come to and how they live, in pessimism.


Well said Salty.

[Iron Glove]

Iron Glove is an optimist for sure. But its easy to be an optimist when you do small things here and there to make society or community better. Little things like clearing the neighbour's driveway. Waving at the old fart when you see that he made a mistake and didn't see you when he cut you off in the parking lot instead of giving them the finger and ruining his day you get a thank you back. Volunteering in the community once in a while, cleaning up a mess in the bush that you came on, little things like this. Pessimism comes from a feeling of helplessness, seeing things that aren't right in your view and going as far as bitching about them but no further. Its harder to become pessimistic when you do a few things here and there that help solve problems. In fact by nature you become a little more optimistic.

This has nothing to do with generation. There are optimistic boomers and pessimistic boomers. Those that care about their community and those that care about themselves. Its the same with any generation. Unfortunately caring about others caring about community, caring about anything except one's self is on the decrease these days through all generations. Social media and particularly compartmentalization mainly by political views created by social media has bread selfish self absorbed people ever on the hunt for things that they see as wrong so they can post it to the choir, rant and rave, but never consider to actually do something constructive about it. And never accept that their world view is not and never will be the views of a lot of other people, and that their views will be of the minority at times and won't get their way. This is what a large portion of our society be they bommers to gen z in the last 20 years have come to and how they live, in pessimism.

Well said Salty.

[Arctic Lake]

Here Here !
Arctic Lake

Iron Glove is an optimist for sure. But its easy to be an optimist when you do small things here and there to make society or community better. Little things like clearing the neighbour's driveway. Waving at the old fart when you see that he made a mistake and didn't see you when he cut you off in the parking lot instead of giving them the finger and ruining his day you get a thank you back. Volunteering in the community once in a while, cleaning up a mess in the bush that you came on, little things like this. Pessimism comes from a feeling of helplessness, seeing things that aren't right in your view and going as far as bitching about them but no further. Its harder to become pessimistic when you do a few things here and there that help solve problems. In fact by nature you become a little more optimistic.

This has nothing to do with generation. There are optimistic boomers and pessimistic boomers. Those that care about their community and those that care about themselves. Its the same with any generation. Unfortunately caring about others caring about community, caring about anything except one's self is on the decrease these days through all generations. Social media and particularly compartmentalization mainly by political views created by social media has bread selfish self absorbed people ever on the hunt for things that they see as wrong so they can post it to the choir, rant and rave, but never consider to actually do something constructive about it. And never accept that their world view is not and never will be the views of a lot of other people, and that their views will be of the minority at times and won't get their way. This is what a large portion of our society be they bommers to gen z in the last 20 years have come to and how they live, in pessimism.

[tigrr]

Salty for our next PM!!!

[Surrey Boy]

Haha good luck with that!
You have any solutions?

Agorism and ostracism.

[Edzzed]

One thing my wife mentioned to me was with so many people from the lower mainland moving up country is their expectations. Why is the grocery store closed at 6. No one shops after that time. Why is the liquor store closed at noon. One employee and they get lunch too. Why no home postal delivery. Where are the sidewalks, Why no street lights. Why no public pool, No ice rink and the goes on. Guess we get used to all the amenities here.

[Surrey Boy]

It's counterintuitive to me that Iron Glove, having completed a career in insurance, does not see people as risks to be managed, nor ascribe to demographic generalizations. I admit that I'm more a Calvin and Hobbes type.

A happy retirement to those whom live in Hope! (Double entendre intended)

Edit: I don't intend to retire myself, but continue to invest in my marriage, children, and close community, and to leave an inheritance to any legitimate grandchildren I may have, if I live so long.

[Salty]

Thanks for the kind words guys

[Iron Glove]

It's counterintuitive to me that Iron Glove, having completed a career in insurance, does not see people as risks to be managed, nor ascribe to demographic generalizations. I admit that I'm more a Calvin and Hobbes type.

A happy retirement to those whom live in Hope! (Double entendre intended)

Edit: I don't intend to retire myself, but continue to invest in my marriage, children, and close community, and to leave an inheritance to any legitimate grandchildren I may have, if I live so long.

Hmm, interesting comment for sure.
The difference tho' is that I spent 50 years "managing risk" for objects, not humans, big difference IMHO.
Hard to "manage" human risk, believe me. We've had many, many successes and thankfully only a few "losses" in the family.
Marriage, Family and Community, I think you've got your shit together more than you think.

[Iron Glove]

Thanks for the kind words guys

How about you become HBC's Poet Laureate Salty ?? :-D
Pretty astute for someone in Hope. :wink:

[mpotzold]

On Hope, BC.

Definitely one of the most picturesque & friendliest small towns in BC.:smile:

Some memories of Hope locals

Bill Hatton & Joe Kalfics, both from Hope were my good friends that I met while attending SFU in ’66.

Was up there more than a few times & truly enjoyed it.

Bill, an artist, teacher & hunter moved to Gabriola Is. when he got married & Joe also a teacher to Merritt. Their families stayed behind.

Bill may now be back in Hope.

Haven’t spoken to both in many years.

Bill was/is a true hunter. We shared more than a few hunts. He was the only hunter I knew that would eat/taste deer liver raw shortly after the deer was killed :shock:


https://thetyee.ca/Culture/2020/01/09/Downer-Hope-Chainsaw.jpg

[REMINGTON JIM]

I passed by so many times but never stopped.
What about prices Jim, is it expensive?

www.fortberens.ca Have a look Otto - RJ

[REMINGTON JIM]

www.fortberens.ca (http://www.fortberens.ca) Have a look Otto - RJ


Yea Expensive !

[GEF]

Good place to retire?Just check out the highway cam's and the weather that is attached.You ever notice there is no highway cams in Osoyoos ,hmm.Keremeos stands out weather wise.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Yikes ! 75 " of rain a year in Hope ! :sad: RJ

[Iron Glove]

Yikes ! 75 " of rain a year in Hope ! :sad: RJ

I remember that day. :-P

[adriaticum]

Hope is a nice area.
But now that Iron Glove and Salty moved in there, they pissed all around town to mark their territory.

[Arctic Lake]

Doesn’t all the smog from the LowerMainland funnel up the Fraser Valley and hang in Hope .
Arctic Lake

[Salty]

Doesn’t all the smog from the LowerMainland funnel up the Fraser Valley and hang in Hope .
Arctic Lake

That happens a lot in Abbotsford, a fair amount in Chilliwack and seldom in Hope in my limited experience. There's lots of air quality data out there the numbers tell the story. Needs to be an inversion and just the right air flow or lack of to get bad in the east Fraser Valley it seems.


Hope is a nice area.
But now that Iron Glove and Salty moved in there, they pissed all around town to mark their territory.

That's just to let the coyotes and bobcats know that there's limits to their allowable go zones. You have to keep at it because the bit of rain we get can wash your efforts away.


Yikes ! 75 " of rain a year in Hope ! :sad: RJ

Any less and the soil blows away no? Shit man my last place was Pt Alice average rainfall 130 " I thought Hope was in the dry belt :confused:

[elch jager]

I like McBride... close enough to PG, but far enough from it as well...

Gorgeous area, Valemont a short drive away

[jvezina]

Yikes ! 75 " of rain a year in Hope ! :sad: RJ

I didn't think it was possible to get worse than Port Alberni for rainfall and lack of sunshine, seems Hope is worse!

[Salty]

I didn't think it was possible to get worse than Port Alberni for rainfall and lack of sunshine, seems Hope is worse!

Actually RJ is hating on us avg rainfall is more like 68" https://en.climate-data.org/north-america/canada/british-columbia/hope-12260/#:~:text=The%20average%20annual%20temperature%20in %20Hope%20is%209.8,with%2045%20mm%20|%201.8%20inch %20of%20rain.

A little less than Port https://en.climate-data.org/north-america/canada/british-columbia/port-alberni-10668/

The summers here though have been drier and hotter than anywhere I've been on the island, realizing that PA gets nice summer spells too. Don't spread that around though the official word is Hope sucks it never stops raining ;)

[adriaticum]

Prince Rupert is rainy like hell
But I'd take rain over desert any day.
Stewart too

[Iron Glove]

Hope is a nice area.
But now that Iron Glove and Salty moved in there, they pissed all around town to mark their territory.

Naw, Salty pissed on the Fraser River side, I pissed on the Coquihalla side, there's still a lot of places to piss in between. :mrgreen:

[wildcatter]

Yea Expensive !

Maybe one day will stop for a tasting.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Maybe one day will stop for a tasting.

I Like there Meritage ! RJ

[wildcatter]

Agorism and ostracism.

Our ever caring government and leaders make sure that won't happen.
In other words, you are living in a utopia.