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325
12-20-2018, 04:41 PM
I'm sure this is in the regs. but I'm too lazy to look. Is it legal to use FMJ bullets on wolf? Please spare me a lecture on how expanding bullets kill better...I get that. I just want to know.

RyoTHC
12-20-2018, 04:48 PM
No........

RyoTHC
12-20-2018, 04:49 PM
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325
12-20-2018, 04:53 PM
No........

Thanks! .......

scttlp86
12-20-2018, 04:59 PM
page 17
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It is unlawful to hunt or trap with a rifle using a full metal jacketed non-expanding
bullet, or a tracer, incendiary, or explosive bullet.

325
12-20-2018, 05:01 PM
page 17
4
It is unlawful to hunt or trap with a rifle using a full metal jacketed non-expanding
bullet, or a tracer, incendiary, or explosive bullet.


Yep, just wasn't sure as it's a fur-bearer
Good to know

todbartell
12-20-2018, 05:31 PM
unlawful according to regs. Also probably horribly ineffective

325
12-20-2018, 05:38 PM
unlawful according to regs. Also probably horribly ineffective

Yeah, I was just thinking about minimizing damage to pelt, and I have a pile of bulk 308 149 grain FMJ, but as it's illegal the point is moot. I'll stick with my tried and true Barnes.

.308SLAYER
12-20-2018, 06:50 PM
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boxhitch
12-20-2018, 08:39 PM
Yep, just wasn't sure as it's a fur-bearer
Good to knowpg 95 it is unlawful for trappers also

walks with deer
12-25-2018, 11:59 AM
people look at predators and always want to use small guns and or cheap ammo..

i encourage predator hunting..
but if you shot a wolf with a fmj i would bet 2 out of 5 times you wouldnt recover the hide.

REMINGTON JIM
12-25-2018, 01:20 PM
people look at predators and always want to use small guns and or cheap ammo..

i encourage predator hunting..
but if you shot a wolf with a fmj i would bet 2 out of 5 times you wouldnt recover the hide.

UNLESS you hit it right SQUARE thru the front shoulders ! :wink: RJ

butcher
12-25-2018, 01:39 PM
people look at predators and always want to use small guns and or cheap ammo..

i encourage predator hunting..
but if you shot a wolf with a fmj i would bet 2 out of 5 times you wouldnt recover the hide.


I disagree. With the first part anyway. My friends and I have spent a pile of time and money developing great predator loads. Not to mention several rifles.

I do agree that you’d be doing more tracking with fmj ammunition.

Rieber
12-25-2018, 03:08 PM
I thought it was prohibited to use centerfire fmj for hunting. Maybe that's also changed - I wouldn't use the fmj but it would sure leave a neat and tiny exit hole.

I'm going off topic a bit with my question but what do you do with the wolf meat after you get the hides of them? Surly not for human consumption but I guess one could. Would you process then for animal feed or take them to a zoo (not always logistically practical) Pig and chicken feed? Is it used as wild game feed or bait for other preditors? This is not a trolling question - I'm just curious. Please feel free to PM me if you feel that's a sensitive issue to post a reply or Moderators please strike my question if it is an inappropriate question. Thanks.

REMINGTON JIM
12-25-2018, 03:21 PM
[QUOTE=Rieber;2060810]I thought it was prohibited to use centerfire fmj for hunting. Maybe that's also changed - I wouldn't use the fmj but it would sure leave a neat and tiny exit hole


It is ILLEGAL ! RJ

REMINGTON JIM
12-25-2018, 03:23 PM
[QUOTE=butcher;2060793]I disagree. With the first part anyway. My friends and I have spent a pile of time and money developing great predator loads. Not to mention several rifles.

What Cartridges ? calibers do you use ? what Bullets do you find Best for the least Pelt damage ? Different bullets for Yotes vs Wolfs ? Thks RJ

walks with deer
12-25-2018, 04:08 PM
sorry butcher you are rare.

i have noticed predators can really take a beating tell they die.

butcher
12-25-2018, 04:43 PM
From the top down: 7mm Remington Magnum 160 BTSP/ 60 gr. H4831. Now I tried some lighter bullets but accuracy suffered. Obviously too much for coyotes but kills wolves dead. Not super fur friendly to say the least.

.243 Winchester. 62 gr. Barnes HP/ 48 gr W760. Not bad for accuracy but really blew up the small dogs and cats. The best luck I had with this rifle was using 100 grain factory PSP’s.

22-250 win. 50 gr. Hornady V-Max/40 gr. W760. Really great round. I got bored with it though. I had a model 700 SPS with a heavy barrel so very pleasant to shoot.

220 swift. 50 grain nosler ballistic tip/37 gr H4895. Accurate as hell but not a great killer.
220 swift. 50 grain V-Max/37 gr. H4895. Just a predator killing mo-fo. No exit wounds, hard hitting, accurate. Wolves and coyotes and bobcats. Had a Ruger #1 and I loved it but the darn thing had a muzzle brake and I got tired of the headaches from shooting it. Really would like to get another.

Tried .22wmr, .222 and .223 as well but they bored me as well.

now these are the ones I owned and did okay with. there were plenty of terrible results as well. some others that my friends had but I didn’t keep notes on.

butcher
12-25-2018, 05:00 PM
sorry butcher you are rare.

i have noticed predators can really take a beating tell they die.


Man you got that right. Seen them run off with all kinds of damage. Even from a 300 wby and 45/70.

walks with deer
12-25-2018, 08:46 PM
yes i normally shoot them with watever is closest...and water ever its loaded with lol...
wolves with 458 wolverines with shotguns bobcats with 22 coyotes with 338..lol and bears with almost every cal and bow i own.
rule number 1 of preds is dont let them go or it will haunt you.

gcreek
12-25-2018, 10:35 PM
yes i normally shoot them with watever is closest...and water ever its loaded with lol...
wolves with 458 wolverines with shotguns bobcats with 22 coyotes with 338..lol and bears with almost every cal and bow i own.
rule number 1 of preds is dont let them go or it will haunt you.

You can share a meal at my table any time.........