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Sirloin
10-14-2018, 04:02 PM
Stó:lō Xwexwilmexw, B.C., Canada move forward on major treaty innovations

Chilliwack
Saturday, October 13, 2018 7:00 AM

Stó:lō Xwexwilmexw Treaty Association, the Government of Canada and the Province of British Columbia have signed an agreement that supports new and innovative approaches to modern treaty negotiations in B.C. and advances them to the final phase of treaty negotiations.
A treaty negotiations memorandum of understanding (MOU) was signed at a ceremony in the Leq’á:mel community by the Chiefs from the six First Nations of the Stó:lō Xwexwilmexw Treaty Association (SXTA) and ministers from the provincial and federal governments.
The new agreement commits to a rights-recognition approach for a treaty agreement, consistent with the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
The new approach explicitly recognizes that Aboriginal rights are inherent and cannot be extinguished or surrendered. It also shifts away from seeking a full and final settlement. Instead, this new approach builds a collaborative and predictable ongoing government-to-government relationship that can adapt to changing circumstances over time, as policies evolve or new rights are established by the courts, for example.
Under this approach, Canada, B.C. and the SXTA have agreed to develop a “core” treaty together. Key elements, such as the constitutional relationship, self-government, land ownership and jurisdiction would be set out in a constitutionally protected core treaty. But administrative and operational policy matters, such as program delivery and government administration, would be included in supplementary agreements, which are more easily amended than current treaties. Some topics may be concluded at a later date, as part of a living document.
Working collaboratively and developing new approaches to reach agreements is a key part of achieving reconciliation with Indigenous people in Canada. The MOU puts into practice innovations that flow from federal and provincial government commitments to relationships with Indigenous peoples based on respect and recognition, and guided by the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s Calls to Action and case law.
Quotes:
Chief Terry Horne, Yakweakwioose First Nation –
“Our goal has been to get out from under the Indian Act and to assert our lawmaking authority on S’ólh Téméxw, our land. We do this today for our children tomorrow. Our Stó:lō communities are pleased to be entering into final negotiations on this groundbreaking treaty.”
Carolyn Bennett, federal Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations –
“This memorandum of understanding is the result of years of hard work on the part of the Stó:lō Xwexwilmexw Treaty Association, with the governments of Canada and British Columbia. This is a key milestone towards a treaty that is consistent with Canada’s commitment to the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, and to the recognition and affirmation of Indigenous rights.”
Scott Fraser, B.C.’s Minister of Indigenous Relations and Reconciliation –
“This new partnership with the SXTA launches a fundamentally new approach to negotiating a treaty, one that better addresses inherent Aboriginal rights and self-determination. Our government is serious about creating real change and developing treaties that support lasting reconciliation and lead to healthy and prosperous First Nations communities, for the benefit of all British Columbians.”
Celeste Haldane, Chief Commissioner of the BC Treaty Commission –
“With the signing of this memorandum of understanding, Stó:lō Xwexwilmexw Treaty Association, Canada and B.C. are advancing their nation-to-nation relationship with innovative approaches to treaty negotiations. The B.C. treaty negotiations process is proving to be the best nation-building opportunity for Indigenous peoples in the country through Indigenous rights recognition.”
Quick Facts:


SXTA is negotiating a treaty on behalf of six Stó:lō communities:

Athélets/Aitchelitz, led by Skemi (Angie Bailey)
Leq’á:mel, led by Mae’xe (Alice Thompson)
Sq’ewá:lxw/Skawahlook, led by Shxwetélemel-elhót (Maureen Chapman)
Sq’ewqéyl/Skowkale, led by Lexhalten (Mark Point)
Ch’iyáqtel/Tzeachten, led by Welí’leq (Derek Epp)
Yeqwyeqwí:ws/Yakweakwioose, led by Siyémches (Terry Horne)


Members of SXTA communities are Stó:lō (People of the River), with villages located in the Lower Fraser River Watershed between Vancouver and Yale, and concentrated in the Central and Upper Fraser Valley.
The SXTA has been negotiating a treaty with British Columbia and Canada since 1998.


https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/environment/natural-resource-stewardship/consulting-with-first-nations/first-nations-negotiations/first-nations-a-z-listing/sto-lo-xwexwilmexw-treaty-association?WT.cg_n=Hootsuite


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Not sure where these 24,463 acres being given away are located......perhaps our government would like to inform us!?
Sounds like our government is also giving them a lump sum payment of $150 AS WELL as a land acquisition fund for buying up private land to add to their treaty territory. Good thing our gov recently streamlined the land act to make this all move faster (http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?147871-B-C-land-transactions-streamlined), behind the scenes.

rocksteady
10-14-2018, 04:05 PM
150 Million... wow.. we are hooped. Horgan and JT will consider that a giveway price

stixnstones
10-14-2018, 04:52 PM
Wtf. All I can say

bcsteve
10-14-2018, 06:21 PM
So, the government gave the Lower Mainland to the natives?

Mulehahn
10-14-2018, 06:36 PM
What does the Kwantlen Nation think of this. 4 months ago they withdrew from the Stolo Nation. They claim pretty good portion of Surrey, Langley and further. In other words probably close to a fifth of that land outlined. Be interesting

ElectricDyck
10-14-2018, 06:38 PM
.......fml

britman101
10-14-2018, 06:42 PM
Oh be assured they will all group together on this one. This is what happens when you have wishy washy leaders who don't have a backbone. The thinking here is that you keep on throwing more money at the problem and it will go away. Uh in this case no, the hand will always be out stretched asking for more, more and more, till the end of time. One group gets the kid glove treatment, while the next group is told to bend over and to smile. What a country we live in..........:evil:

Arctic Lake
10-14-2018, 06:56 PM
Sirloin and others, I have questions . I take it that in the bottom map the orange coloured plots of land are reserve lands. Is this the 923 acres ? What is with the lands in the red square and that is in the inset map ?
Thanks
Arctic Lake

wos
10-14-2018, 06:57 PM
A seemingly small point that is mentioned in that document and has been in effect for a few years is that all gst collected on stolo reserves is directly given to the band. Remember they have Walmart home depot shell gas some smaller restaurants and automotive shops operating on reserve in chilliwack all that gst that is collected is funneled back to directly to them. The only good is first nations are not immune to the tax. They need to pay aswell.

Rieber
10-14-2018, 06:58 PM
Wait a minute - I was born in Chilliwack so why wasn't I gifted land and cash yesterday like these People? I guess it's a racial thing and I'm not worthy of that supreme club. :x

Muledeercrazy2
10-14-2018, 07:11 PM
The Sechelt nation just signed a lucrative deal that is worth many millions as well.

Sirloin
10-14-2018, 07:25 PM
More ongoing:

2018 Anual Report
http://www.bctreaty.ca/sites/default/files/BCTC-AR2018.pdf (http://www.bctreaty.ca/sites/default/files/BCTC-AR2018.pdf)

http://www.bctreaty.ca/negotiation-update

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A lot of these are looking something like this.....


https://i.imgur.com/AcNqTKV.png https://i.imgur.com/hmxo5MQ.png

boxhitch
10-15-2018, 08:06 AM
looks like Western Separatists are getting their way, though not likely what they intended )

browningboy
10-15-2018, 08:06 AM
So what’s the point of the treaties? It’s not like the money will stop flowing and they will change anyhow

Bugle M In
10-15-2018, 10:03 AM
Why is these days my stomach just turns over this crap????
Almost to the point where I want to explode?
And I know when speaking to others outside of this forum, they are ready to blow up as well.
What does that mean for us?, time to go to Alberta??
Almost to the point I just want to keep the tv and pc/internet off, and not look anymore, and just be oblivious,
as to not get myself in trouble.
HMMMMMMM...……(as SRUPP would say!)

boxhitch
10-15-2018, 10:45 AM
Pot is a good pacifier, may be the intent with 200 tonnes coming to a store near you

Carrollizer
10-15-2018, 02:13 PM
if they want their "traditional" lands back, why don't we have a traditional fight for the land, like we did in the old days?

Sirloin
10-15-2018, 03:55 PM
.

University of Victoria to offer world's first degree program in Indigenous law

(https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/the-sunday-edition-march-18-2018-1.4579165/university-of-victoria-to-offer-world-s-first-degree-program-in-indigenous-law-1.4579175)https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/the-sunday-edition-march-18-2018-1.4579165/university-of-victoria-to-offer-world-s-first-degree-program-in-indigenous-law-1.4579175


"The Trudeau government has made it clear that it intends to make First Nations self-governance a reality — that it will establish a true, nation-to-nation relationship with Indigenous peoples.
It will not be easy, or quick, and it is not without controversy.
Once out from under the authority of the Indian Act, and under their own legal jurisdiction, how will First Nations choose to govern themselves? What principles and processes — and lines of authority and accountability— will organize these societies?"

"What is new here is the recognition of Indigenous law as law, to be treated rigorously and comprehensively and formally taught, within a university, alongside equivalent state law, or Canadian law. This is the first dual-degree program where over a four-year period, students will receive an Indigenous law degree and a Canadian law degree,"



Truly dividing the country into separate nations with separate laws and jurisdictions. one completely subsidized by the other. recipe for chaos. Beginning of real balkanization. Guaranteed future conflics for resources and land..

wos
10-15-2018, 06:35 PM
Pot is a good pacifier, may be the intent with 200 tonnes coming to a store near you

Yes but the store is also on reserve! You are not gonna win.

338win mag
10-15-2018, 08:33 PM
Ya, so I was talking to this fellow (recently retired) and he was involved in education......I thought I would spark up the conversation about land claims in bc and where we are today, he says "who cares"
I said well what if you own a home and it is in a culturally significant area and you have to leave the said land that may have been in your family for generations or perhaps you just bought it and now its discovered its in one of these area's...he says so what "who cares" move somewhere else.

I say ok...what about the guy who owns a business in this culturally significant area, and he's gotta pack up and move, he says "who cares" go start your business somewhere else with all the animation that go's with it, I say... I care, and if I knew about it I wouldn't of wasted my ****ing life building a home and business in this province, you got it now buddy?

DarekG
10-16-2018, 11:59 AM
Is this real ****ing life? Unbelievable.

Bugle M In
10-16-2018, 12:39 PM
so much for using those sockeye honelholes huh! around those parts anyways.
or, maybe we all just say, F U, we're coming in!

ElectricDyck
10-16-2018, 01:43 PM
I think everyone is overreacting, this is a good step towards decolonization and finally departing from the christian ideals that made this country what it is today!