Wall Tent or ? - options for 3 person base camps

[todbartell]

I have a 14x17 Montana wall tent, it's great for 3-5 people. Looking for something smaller for solo/up to 3 person hunts, something that a guy can easily set up by himself. Has to have abiity to take a wood stove.

Wall tent? 10x12?

Eskers poleless tent?

Teepee?

Any suggestions or experiences, would be greatly appreciated.

[BgBlkDg]

Seek Outside 8 man or 12 man with Big Mother stove, scewwns and liners.

Big bux, but, worth it, IMO

[Weatherby Fan]

Cabelas Alaknak 12x12 Wall Tent, lightweight at 67lbs, this is a great tent and have used it a few times, maybe a little more than your looking for,
also Cabelas Instinct Outfitter 10x10 may be a better fit

Check out esker-arctic-fox-winter-hot-tent-9x9.html (https://www.canadianoutdoorequipment.com/esker-arctic-fox-winter-hot-tent-9x9.html). might be along the lines of what your looking for, 9'x9' or 10'x10' options

[northernguy]

I'm really happy with my Seek Outside Tipi. Light and easy to set up. It has easily withstood a few heller storms with no trouble.

[kootenaihunter]

Very happy with my Cabelas Bighorn 3 (on sale now!). I have a Wilderness 4 Stove and it provides heat for 6+ hours. Tent packs into a large duffle. 3 persons would be perfect.

[BCBRAD]

We have two tents from Reliable Tent in Billings MT.

One is a Yellowstone 12x12, the other is a Glacier 15x17, both are easy to deal with.

Also, we gave daughter a 17' square Pyramid/ Range tent that they have used all summer up and down the west coast.

For heat a 24" Hippy Killer works well on all three.

https://reliabletent.com/product/glacier-tent/

https://reliabletent.com/product/yellowstone-tent/

http://www.greatwestmetal.com/Products.htm


These are well built tents and stand up to high winds, pack up easy, and have away less infrastructure to deal with than a wall tent.

[mod7rem]

I use a 10x10 cabelas outback guide tent. I sewed in a stove jack that I bought from Titanium Goat and use a collapsible stainless wood stove that I built. I originally sewed a large zipper into the floor so I could unzip a portion of the floor and roll it back for using the stove, but the floor is not needed and I wound up cutting it out altogether. This is the setup we use for basecamp on fly-in trips, riverboat trips when weight is a consideration. Just finished a fly-in caribou hunt using this setup for 4 guys. Tight with 4 guys and a stove but worked well. Also had a Golite Shangri-la tent setup to store packs, lawn-chairs, etc. Have a heavy canvas wall tent that we use for truck camps.

[Brew]

The cabelas tents are great. I’ve had mine for 12 years and not a problem. Extremely waterproof. The aluminum pegs suck though. My next smaller three man tent for weekend will be the Arctic oven tent. Amazing tents

https://arcticoventent.com/tents/all-tents

[BromBones]

10x10 is a good size for 1-2 people, 3 in a pinch if you're smart about the setup. I have one made by Canvas Tent Shop, is actually a spike tent so super easy to set up on your own and less weight than a full frame. 60 lbs or so all in. Comes with sewn in floor, stove jack, 2 windows, and zippered doors at both ends. I bought a fitted rain fly with stove jack as well.

Been a super little tent.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Seek Outside 8 man or 12 man with Big Mother stove, scewwns and liners.

Big bux, but, worth it, IMO

12 Man tent - Tea thats a BUNCH smaller ther Dewey :tongue: lol RJ

[Mr. Friendly]

I really liked my 12 x 14 tent...but wished I had gotten the 2nd door and the porch. it fit two people and their gear perfectly...3 people got tight and we had a couple nights of 4 people, which was packed so tight that one person kept getting burned by the wood stove, LoL!

[mod7rem]

The cabelas tents are great. I’ve had mine for 12 years and not a problem. Extremely waterproof. The aluminum pegs suck though. My next smaller three man tent for weekend will be the Arctic oven tent. Amazing tents

https://arcticoventent.com/tents/all-tents

I think the Igloo will be my next tent to replace the cabelas outback guide tent. Looks awesome.

[todbartell]

I think the Igloo will be my next tent to replace the cabelas outback guide tent. Looks awesome.

I'll bring my cot lol

thanks for the info so far, will give me something to research. No rush on this as I won't need it until next fall

[Beachcomber]

Not knowing anything about big tents, interested to understand why choose a tipi design over a wall design?

What are the advantages of one over the other? Set up? Weather proofness? Comfort?

[northernguy]

A tipi is generally a fair bit easier and much faster to set up than wall tents and they handle the wind really well. The steep pitch sheds water well and snow load is not an issue. The main reason I went with a tipi from Seek Outside was the weight. The six man (3 guys and gear) and the wood stove weigh in at around 11 lbs! This means I can pack a comfortable base camp in my little plane. It would not be unrealistic for two guys to use the tent and stove on a pack hunt in the right situation.

There are trade offs with the tipi though. The space is not nearly as efficient as a wall tent given that the floor layout is round and the slope means you need to be near the centre of the tent to stand. Full size cots are usable but there is a lot of space between the cot and the walls given the wall's curve. Sleeping on the ground or using a low cot makes the best use of the space. It takes a bit of experimenting and trial and error to figure out how to use the space in a tipi effectively.

All that said though...a good wall tent is awfully tough to beat for comfort.

Given the weight and small pack size, the compromise if the tipi is worth it for me.

[Beachcomber]

Thanks for the insight. Makes sense. My old (grandfather's) Jones Tent & Awning canvas tent was great for space but was a project to set up given its thick poles and hemp guy lines. Useful if you were planning to invade another country and needed a semi-permanent structure for HQ but less fun to put up/take down over a weekend, especially when wet.

[AgSilver]

I haven't got a chance to try it yet, even (but I am seam sealing it tomorrow, if all goes well) - but I got a Seek Outside 12 man tipi (with the XL stove) when I joined BHA as a lifetime member. Thinking a smaller size will be nice to have for different situations, maybe a Cimarron or a Redcliff (or even the Courthouse, for the tipi reasons noted above), but the concept seems ideal. I think the problem with the 12 is the overall amount of space that you need to set it up (something like 19' diameter).

[digger dogger]

A guy I met in Alberta, said he loves his arctic oven tent.
Not sure about the model.
He was pretty adamant, it was the best tent he's ever owned.

[mod7rem]

I'll bring my cot lol

thanks for the info so far, will give me something to research. No rush on this as I won't need it until next fall

Ha ha, ya that’s the best way to find out what tent set up you like, just show up where people are and bunk in:)

[RJHunter]

We use the 12 man SO tipi for our family camping and are really happy with it. I have also owned a 14×16 wall tent which I really liked. The wall tent has much more room inside and can fit more cots/chairs etc. The reason we switched to the tipi is because we wanted something that was lighter and smaller for packing in planes, boats and atvs. I would have kept the wall tent if we were always camping beside the truck. I find the tipi warms up faster due to the reduced airspace and sheds wind better. the tipi also warms up quickly with a small amount of sun where the wall tent seemed to be a shaded cooler. the flip side of that is that the tipi can be really warm inside on a sunny day. We are actually able to use the solar charger inside the tipi for charging batteries. The screen doors help. The zipper on the wall tent is much easier to use so I would factor that if anyone in the group is older or has back issues as I do. We tied some cord to the zippers to make them easier to pull open but I still need to devise a walking stick clip to help with zipping the tent closed. Condensation can be more of an issue in the tipi but the liner and stove really helps. I liked the awning on the wall tent so you can get out and have a covered area to hang out under. I think both are great options depending on where you plan to camp and what you are using for transport. If I was always by the truck I would choose the wall tent but if you want to be more flexible a tipi is a great option. Small backpacking tents are great but they also have their place and time. I'm sure there are other good options out there like the Arctic Oven but I don't have experience with them

[AgSilver]

One thing I'll say is that if I order another SO tent, I'll DEFINITELY order it seam sealed. Takes a long time to do on a big tent. Crikey.

[longrifle]

TB,

Here's my two bits!

8x10 Wall Tent - three guys, no cots, minimal gear inside the tent, coleman cooking stove, no wood stove, was tight but easy set up...

12x14 Wall Tent - three guys, perfect size, allowed for a table for cooking etc, woodstove, gear storage, three cots and fold up chairs to sit on in case of crappy weather. The only downfall is that it would be a bit of a chore to set up by yourself.

10x12 Wall Tent - might be the best compromise, allow for wood stove, smaller cooking table, cots and gear storage...Would be a tight fit with three cots across one end though. But, you can get brackets that will turn normal cots into 'bunk cots' and you could set it up by yourself.

I looked in a Tipi Tent once, all I could think was that there was a lot of wasted space given the sloped walls...


'rifle

[todbartell]

I'm leaning towards an Eskers Classic 12x12

About 85% of the square footage of a 12x14 wall tent, should be able to get 2 cots in there w/ wood stove. Maybe even 3

https://www.canadianoutdoorequipment.com/images/P/Esker-Classic-12x12-winter-camping-hot-tent-01.jpg

Tent Specs:


Made from 10.10 oz Army Duck 4 strand Sunforger Canvas
Centre peak: 2.3m (7'6")
Sidewall height: .76m (30")
Overal Area (approx): 13.4 Sq M (12'x12')
Weight: 13kg (29lbs)
Packed Dimensions: 32cm x 28cm x 65cm x (12.5" x 11" 25.5")

Made in Canada

Price is $1375CDN

[Marc]

Just spent 12 days sleeping in a Deluxe Wall Tent north of Mackenzie, heavy frost and a dusting of snow was the norm to find in the mornings and we slept so comfortably. The tent on the right, if my memory serves me correctly is an 8 x 10 x 5 Deluxe wall tent with porch. We used it as a cook / kitchen tent this trip. That tent heats up pretty quick with a little wood stove in there.

The second tent was a 16 x 14 Deluxe Wall Tent with Porch and we comfortably slept 4 people with room for another two easy to sleep comfortably. Site sponsor made, and locally made in BC. Just saying :)

[IMG]http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/Moose_Camp_2018_resized.jpg

[todbartell]

holy crap you went hunting lol

[okas]

The stove in the center is great as no cold spots and sit on your cot by the stove .

[okas]

just looked at that Reliable mountain spike 10x10x4 looks usable . I do not need a 14x16 anymore .

[.264winmag]

Arctic Oven for my next tent, great first hand reviews.

[okas]

I often thought about the Spring Bar tents :?: any one on here have one

[Aaron600]

I've been extremely happy with my Snowtrekker Basecamp wall tent. 10X13, 4 person. Sleeps 3 very well with cots firewood, tables etc... I use a Knico stove. I've been using the tent for 4 season's now and it's super light and compact. Total weight with poles is only 31lbs. These tents were designed for backcountry expedidtion sled trips so they are built to last. Runs about $1585 U.S. without stove. Bought mine used for $1000 Canadian.
https://www.snowtrekkertents.com

[Marc]

Yup, just what I needed :) I was telling Angela last night that the flame has been lit again and I have a hunger to get back into the woods. Even asked this morning when she got home from the night shift if I could take the young fella along for some "road hunting" for grouse & deer sometime(didn't mention bears lol) and she seemed onboard with it.:mrgreen:


holy crap you went hunting lol