Roadblocks starting NOW

[mooze]

https://www.wltribune.com/news/first-nations-take-steps-to-blockade-moose-hunt/


so that is not even within the land claim.

Public land

Alexis Creek RCMP is not far.

[rocksteady]

"This is about moose"...

I call bs.. its about FN power..

[Jelvis]

No one mocks Thee Alphonses -- Joe n Willy -- Heroes to many ---> Joe <-----ll-==-----> Willy Jr. <------------------ll-=
Jelly Joseph Willy Jr. -- Alphonse :cool: --- Chilly Coat Inn -----

[Wild one]

Finish the job and deactivate the road to the point no one uses it then not just a little ditch

[Foxton Gundogs]

Pretty simple people, record and report any "interference of a legal hunt" Demand charges be laid, IF it is "sanctioned" by the local band office, sue them. Time to fight back. The old "I don't want to get involved" or I cant take the time to follow up with legal action is no excuse. We are voters and taxpayers, not trespassers in out own Province. Time to start asserting our rights as Canadians/British Columbians, BTW who paid for the road they are blocking???
ONE LAND ONE LAW ONE PEOPLE

[BgBlkDg]

Send in the Canadian Special Operations Regiment with some JTF2 specialists and clean the problem up permanently!!!

[IslandWanderer]

Why aren’t the RCMP stopping them from blocking the road?

[Wild one]

Why aren’t the RCMP stopping them from blocking the road?

Same reason nothing was done about these kind of actions in the past


This needs to become vocal beyond hunters if there is going to be results honestly

[srupp]

Hmmm there is no road now. Its ditched, trenched..large boulders placed.
RCMP should be immediatly sent in to confiscate the large equipment used..restore the provincial road on crown land and SELL the equipment to pay for road repatriation.

Alphonses little secret....between RAVEN LAKE and Macklin rd.lie OWEN FIR lakes is major moose wintering grounds they slaughter all winter long..
Steven

[Wild one]

Hmmm there is no road now. Its ditched, trenched..large boulders placed.
RCMP should be immediatly sent in to confiscate the large equipment used..restore the provincial road on crown land and SELL the equipment to pay for road repatriation.

Alphonses little secret....between RAVEN LAKE and Macklin rd.lie OWEN FIR lakes is major moose wintering grounds they slaughter all winter long..
Steven

Sled access is why they don’t care about the road is what you are saying

[rocksteady]

Make no mistake.. they are not blocking the road to save moose... they are blocking the road to save moose for their members to harvest...

You can put lipstick and mascara on a pig and call it your prom date... but its still a pig

[Jelvis]

Look up the Willy Alphonse Jr, case he won for all Indians, not just himself or his band, it cleared up all the confusion seen in many threads as to what is the truth about the case.
Jelvis -- Willy Alphonse Jr is strong and lil stubborn like Joe looks --- takes a stand - stands his spot -- these men are real -- won't jist talk, there known to walk --

[rocksteady]

Remember Gustafson lake when shots were fired at rcmp members but no one charged? Oka??

[rocksteady]

Look up the Willy Alphonse Jr, case he won for all Indians, not just himself or his band, it cleared up all the confusion seen in many threads as to what is the truth about the case.
Jelvis -- Willy Alphonse Jr is strong and lil stubborn like Joe looks --- takes a stand - stands his spot -- these men are real -- won't jist talk, there known to walk --

They walk it and talk it when it benefits them.. not the moose..

[rocksteady]

I dont feel i am a racist because of heritage, skin colour, religion.. i just feel one sect of society holding the rest of the country is terrorism at the grass roots level..

[rocksteady]

If this was a bunch of WASPS how long would it last???

[rocksteady]

Look up the Willy Alphonse Jr, case he won for all Indians, not just himself or his band, it cleared up all the confusion seen in many threads as to what is the truth about the case.
Jelvis -- Willy Alphonse Jr is strong and lil stubborn like Joe looks --- takes a stand - stands his spot -- these men are real -- won't jist talk, there known to walk --

Look up chief louie of the okanagan band who has create a corporate windfall for his band by supplying what is in demand.. not by doing roadblocks or asking the feds fir more $

[silvertipp]

Look up the Willy Alphonse Jr, case he won for all Indians, not just himself or his band, it cleared up all the confusion seen in many threads as to what is the truth about the case.
Jelvis -- Willy Alphonse Jr is strong and lil stubborn like Joe looks --- takes a stand - stands his spot -- these men are real -- won't jist talk, there known to walk --
This man you talk of is not anything special
he is not a man of power wich people respect and follow
he is a man with no consequences from the law wich makes it very easy to do whatever the hell he wants
Wich attract more people just like him
right now the government has made it very clear they could careless what happens to our wildlife or this pissing match between natives and sportsman They will just stand back and watch
its a dirt road in the middle of nowhere to them
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Go block a main highway and you will see a different story

[Sirloin]

Our governments are afraid to do anything against FN. Our governments are held hostage by FN and require their approval and hand out "revenue sharing" for every single resource project in our province.

[rocksteady]

our governments are afraid to do anything against fn. Our governments are held hostage by fn and require their approval and hand out "revenue sharing" for every single resource project in our province.

bingo!!!!!@

[Jelvis]

Don't say . " BINGO!" cuz everyone will come a running, who don't like Bingo? Bingo is still popular among many people, even in Kammy Double Wammy.

Jelly -- What wood Willy Nelson do ----> It's 5 O'Clock some where --> Lot's a problems hunter's, we can't fix that, butt we can fix a drink! Pour it on strong.

[325]

Don't say . " BINGO!" cuz everyone will come a running, who don't like Bingo? Bingo is still popular among many people, even in Kammy Double Wammy.

Jelly -- What wood Willy Nelson do ----> It's 5 O'Clock some where --> Lot's a problems hunter's, we can't fix that, butt we can fix a drink! Pour it on strong.

Willie Nelson doesn’t drink

[finngun]

jell--bell.,...No one mocks Thee Alphonses -- Joe n Willy -- Heroes to many

i think his jeans are too baggy...idle no more...was it his wiffy so called diet? and gain 30lb? alphonse:roll: needs that diet..:eek:8-)

[Jelvis]

finny yur a fashion model and follow billy idle, and the miracle diet was a riot, -- No one mocks Joe in reg 5 or your Wanted Dead or Alive!
finny not too skinny, you want to be a winner not a loser --
Jelly ( Poke ) My hawn chis --> finny too skinny? Needs more Salty --

[jorick]

Food for thought
works both ways

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_heritage), or national or ethnic (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicity) origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

[one-shot-wonder]

https://www.100milefreepress.net/news/pulled-cattle-guards-going-back-in-place-despite-b-c-interior-first-nations-moose-hunt-protest/

[REMINGTON JIM]

I said months a go he was a LIAR and he was only out there for the Band only - he could give 2 Shits about us whitey hunters ! hes a Prick ! the Indians are taking over all the land and the game in BC soon you will not be able to hunt without paying the indians and be told when and where you can hunt ! Mark my WORDS ! :-( jmo RJ

[tinhorse]

https://www.100milefreepress.net/news/pulled-cattle-guards-going-back-in-place-despite-b-c-interior-first-nations-moose-hunt-protest/

I wonder what concessions hunters will have with their understanding....."more details to follow next week" .....oh boy, I sure hope my LEH will still be good come November

[finngun]

jell...;-) to skinny wahHHHh only i wish...

[srupp]

Hmmm pulled cattleguards going back....hmmmm at what cost? Stopping the entire hunt? Million $$$$...truckloads of free beef ?
Wanna bet the details wont be released..the truth will not be released..hunters and taxpayers will pay the cost..
chef joey..and the crew should recieve the bill for reinstalling the cattleguards..
Next week some points will be let out..not tge details..secret squirril stuff.
Sorry bullshit..imo
steven

[#49]

How does one go about blocking someone on this site.Im tired of a certain delusional poet

[scoutlt1]

It's really beyond belief now.

This shit has to stop!

Alphonse can go f**k himself as far as I'm concerned....

[Muledeercrazy2]

What about the property holders on the other side? Are they blocking Anah Lake Rd. And the 4500 road? There was a cabin for sale, I wonder how much the value has gone down and what about the poor person trying to sell it?

[Island Roo]

The authorities are not enforcing the law.
Hunter convoy? On the next one maybe we should all show up and find a way thru.
Could turn it into a media circus - that would get some attention. Good attention?

[Islandeer]

This is for all the FN and NDP spinners, there is no native culture in this Province. Blocking roads and stopping there fellow man from harvesting, is not a sign of cultural integrity.
It is indeed a whole pile of other stuff which you can try and figure out yourself.
Hmmmmm........

[Island Idiots]

I would suggest a posse to sort this out. After that I would deactivate every road going to and from the Rez.

[Piperdown]

WOW funny where is our buddy Gcreek on this pretty silent at the moment, total bullshit, it was because of his band that they started the cow moose sticker awareness program

[russm]

I would suggest a posse to sort this out. After that I would deactivate every road going to and from the Rez.

Permanent road blocks to keep them on the land that’s so important to them, or why not “build a wall”, see how quickly they’re crying that they can’t get by living “traditionally” like the constantly spout off about.

[gcreek]

WOW funny where is our buddy Gcreek on this pretty silent at the moment, total bullshit, it was because of his band that they started the cow moose sticker awareness program

As said before, I support any legally gained effort to help the moose population increase again. This isn't one of them.

For everyone's info, the latest story in the Tribune states that Joe and the Forest minister have talked and MOF was replacing cattleguards today. At our cost again.

It will be interesting what the results of the meeting are going to be.

The road closures in 5-12B only bring things back to before there was logging in our area. All done by mutual agreement of local stakeholders and Government. Not by grandstanding and illegal activities.

[Sharpish]

We need to stand together and roll up on the closure en masse. We can wrangle a D9 dozer and a bunch of scary big white Boyd can we not?

[REMINGTON JIM]

It's really beyond belief now.

This shit has to stop!

Alphonse can go f**k himself as far as I'm concerned....

YUP ONLY gonna get WORSE ! :mad: RJ

[Ohwildwon]

The FN are eventually going to shoot them selves in the foot big time.

Eventually this poking, will tip the balance and there will be a major backlash in many forms..

[browningboy]

Everyone should be calling RCMP and filing complaints, or discrimination charges against RCMP as they won’t uphold the law

[abbyfireguy]

It’s going to boil down to simple economics. Hit the FN brethren in the wallet where it hurts.
Dont hire any of their equipment operators or contractors for anything.
Two can play the game.
Its actually very much moving to domestic terrorism, no tolerance for that behavior can be accepted.
we all live by one law system,INCLUDING FIRST NATIONS!!
If our governments will not even the playing field and enforce fair and equitable laws for all, then turf their butts out and elect people who will.
Get your crap together Mr Horgan or you will be sent packing!
You are nobody special, get that through your head.

[Jelvis]

The dillusional poet who dint know how to grow it, so an empty wallet, and friends in low places, with tanned faces, and dealing with human disgraces.
-- Got in adversity helping the moose and the deer, removing the thousands of steers, went to university on a cash loan grant, doing Bio
No one woody give me a try out
-- So I started working out with the Rock my boys friend, a lilyounger and faster, worked at Ticket Master!
- I got solid and faster and nimble, with my buddy Jack who was qwick and arms R thick.
Jello--Marshy-Mello-- Hey folks on the news now --- Metis will be self-governing Ottawa moves forward with historic deal to-day.

[IslandWanderer]

The dillusional poet who dint know how to grow it, so an empty wallet, and friends in low places, with tanned faces, and dealing with human disgraces.
-- Got in adversity helping the moose and the deer, removing the thousands of steers, went to university on a cash loan grant, doing Bio
No one woody give me a try out
-- So I started working out with the Rock my boys friend, a lilyounger and faster, worked at Ticket Master!
- I got solid and faster and nimble, with my buddy Jack who was qwick and arms R thick.
Jello--Marshy-Mello-- Hey folks on the news now --- Metis will be self-governing Ottawa moves forward with historic deal to-day.

I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again. You really do have an interesting way of writing. I may not always agree with what your expressing, but your posts do give a person something to think about.

[Piperdown]

As said before, I support any legally gained effort to help the moose population increase again. This isn't one of them.

Fair enough, with friends like this you don't need any enemies :)

[Piperdown]

How does one go about blocking someone on this site.Im tired of a certain delusional poet

Just go to your private messages and there is a tab for ignore list, hit it, enter Jellys name and bingo you are good to go :)

[pnbrock]

as tax payers i don't understand why we have no say in stopping there checks!!we need a government who works with everyone not special groups .the government screwed up by letting treaties drag on not me!!

[masoncade1992]

Start a legal action. If everyone on HBC put I ln some money, we could sue them. Easy peezy to start a civil claim. I would sue the crown for lack of involvement and the FN bands for ruining our legal rights and for harassment. I bet I could find some case law on the matter.

[ACE]

Start a legal action. If everyone on HBC put I ln some money, we could sue them. Easy peezy to start a civil claim. I would sue the crown for lack of involvement and the FN bands for ruining our legal rights and for harassment. I bet I could find some case law on the matter.

Interesting idea. Would it be more effective to single out one particular FN band and the RCMP/CO's who are hired with taxpayers $$ to uphold the laws of this province ?
Make a precedent setting case ....

[masoncade1992]

If I had the money I would put the RCMP in said area on notice and put the FN band on notice. Then I would get all the people who hunt on the crown land make a personal decree on how the closure has affected them and their rights. If the case was won, keep the money in trust for any other legal battles .

[masoncade1992]

End of the day the RCMP are tasked with protecting all citizens. We pay for that as tax payers. By turning a blind eye, they are not upholding their task. Sue them for not protecting us from harassment, sue the crown for bad wildlife management and sue the band harassing us. Can you imagine if a regular set of hunters dug a ditch and blocked them? We would get the electric chair and our hunting license removed for at least 5 years

[Jelvis]

Royal Canadian Mounted Police go by complaints from the public, no official complaint then on observation and patrol.
-- If you decide to take on one particular Indian band or it's members or Chief you woody have to make an official complaint in your name and sign it.
Jel -- RCMP go by complaints from the public, official ones -- not verbal complaints -- has to be written down on paper 8) -- and John Henried!
--------File started under your name, on computer now a daze --and on paper -- And other people in the World have the same name as you do so ahhhhh whaaa?
-------- You against thee entire world basically -- you'd be financial broke in a month

[cdub]

I had a buddy about 3-4 years back on a moose trip north of PG run into a FN road block. They went to nearest town to RCMP, they were told to go home, they disagreed and wanted to file complaint, they were told only one complaint allowed and it would be tossed after they left the building.

[StuBrown]

I know it will not solve anything but I am writting my local MLA and attaching both news articles with it. I will also being saying that this should be science based and not based on the feelinging and opinions of people.

[Ourea]

“Last year it escalated because of the 2017 fires and even then the government wanted to run a regular moose hunt. They should put out a prize for whoever shoots the last moose in the Chilcotin.”

Guaranteed it won't be a licensed tax paying hunter.

This shit is getting out of control.

And with a spineless provincial and federal gov it is only going to get worse. Parts of society are lawless operating with impunity. Utter nonsense.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Start a legal action. If everyone on HBC put I ln some money, we could sue them. Easy peezy to start a civil claim. I would sue the crown for lack of involvement and the FN bands for ruining our legal rights and for harassment. I bet I could find some case law on the matter.

Get it started I will Contribute Money ! I am SURE lots others will too ! :wink: RJ

[Whiterock]

I phoned the RCMP about a new gate and sign on a FSR out of Lilloett a couple of yrs ago. Didnt fill out paperwork but gave info over the phone. RCMP called back and said gate was removed (it was) but not the sign as it was now claimed as "traditional" territory.I was told by both the RCMP and the CO, that I could hunt there, but if I had trouble with the natives to not call them. So much for my government protecting me,,,But Id do it again, Also,,put me down for donation to hire a lawyer.

[finngun]

ourea.. They should put out a prize for whoever shoots the last moose in the Chilcotin.” /// jee that is great idea..what is gonna be the prize..?free seremonial fish from yahoo..:shock::idea:

[BRrooster]

The RCMP , or some of the ones I have heard about don't know the rules themselves. My brother in law , who doesn't bull-sh*t, said he was
stopped at a roadblock and told that he needed a trigger lock on his rifles as he was driving out of town to hunt. When you are in attendance
of your weapon, in your vehicle, it just needs to be unloaded.
How can they help when they don't know the rules themselves. Oh and b-in law got a warning to get his windshield fixed cause it had a crack in it.

[ACE]

Get it started I will Contribute Money ! I am SURE lots others will too ! :wink: RJ

As will I ....
Is the Crown Land in BC a federal or provincial asset ?
Are the FN groups receiving money from the federal or provincial coffers ?

[Islander30]

I wonder what concessions hunters will have with their understanding....."more details to follow next week" .....oh boy, I sure hope my LEH will still be good come November


I wouldn't count on it...I think we're about to be thrown to the wolves along with the rest of the wildlife in this province....hopefully Im wrong, but my hopes of putting in for grizzly draws and fishing chinooks at pender bluffs have not gone well this year.



.

[scoutlt1]

As will I ....
Is the Crown Land in BC a federal or provincial asset ?
Are the FN groups receiving money from the federal or provincial coffers ? I think this would be one of the biggest hurdles to overcome.
For example, I remember asking Weaver on here about access to Indian Reservations and how it relates to his "right to roam" proposal... He basically stated that they fall under Federal Jurisdiction.
As someone who has dealt with Federal, Provincial, and Municipal governments over a number of years (on environmental subjects), I have personally seen how easily and quickly responsibility can be passed off.
At first glance, I can see this being an issue right out of the gate....although I'm not sure how it would be when it involves enforcement (RCMP/CO) when it relates to upholding/enforcing laws such as "interfering with a legal hunt".

For the record, I think it's a good idea to pursue this in the courts. I've been thinking about it for a while now and am just not sure how to go about it. I have no legal training, but I do have some experience in the environmental field.

I'm in for contributing financially, and offering up what I can from an experience/knowledge standpoint.

If it's not appropriate to discuss on here, I'm fine with sharing personal contact info via PM so that conversations can go forward.

Cheers,

M

[srupp]

rez is federal jurisdiction..so are RCMP
Steven

[Good2bCanadian]

Time to form second nations police force.
By the second nations people for the second nations people.

[Jelvis]

Crown in BC is Provincially Crowned --
Indian Reservations are Federal
So Johnny Horgan's Heroes to deal with
Jel -- NDP seem to favor helping Indians more than thee other ones do,,-- Horgan knows what's coming up and wants to do the right thing with thee United Nations.
---------Thee United Nations told Johnny and Justin to " Stop stalling, it's time to reconcile, no more crawling, with no denial, start the file. then we sort the pile "-->
------------Pretty hard to fight the U.N. now a daze --- 2 billion people in the world living below poverty level -- to day folks ,, 2 Billion humans starving

[scoutlt1]

The UN needs to f**k off.

The citizens of Canada did not sign on to the UNDRIP until JT came along....when "Canada dropped its objector status to the declaration and formerly adopted plans to implement it in accordance to the Canadian Constitution".

I would suggest that the current federal gov't has no right to implement such a policy without proper consultation/approval from all involved.

Hell, the federal courts shut down the pipeline for very similar reasons....

[gcreek]

Crown in BC is Provincially Crowned --
Indian Reservations are Federal
So Johnny Horgan's Heroes to deal with
Jel -- NDP seem to favor helping Indians more than thee other ones do,,-- Horgan knows what's coming up and wants to do the right thing with thee United Nations.
---------Thee United Nations told Johnny and Justin to " Stop stalling, it's time to reconcile, no more crawling, with no denial, start the file. then we sort the pile "-->
------------Pretty hard to fight the U.N. now a daze --- 2 billion people in the world living below poverty level -- to day folks ,, 2 Billion humans starving

Jelvis, lately you've been making some very good points. Many of the people living below poverty level seem to choose purchasing booze, drugs and smokes instead of food for their families. There is no colour difference in these choices either. The only way to rise up is to do it yourself by taking the first step. Excuses are like A holes, everybody has one.

[Jelvis]

Old Indian Prayer -- Oh Creator, let me never judge another warrior hunters life, until I walk a kilometer in his or her moccasins ----
Jel -- The Creator and Rocko are watching you day and night with no fright -- it's outta sight --

[Wild one]

Jelvis, lately you've been making some very good points. Many of the people living below poverty level seem to choose purchasing booze, drugs and smokes instead of food for their families. There is no colour difference in these choices either. The only way to rise up is to do it yourself by taking the first step. Excuses are like A holes, everybody has one.

Agree 100% you’re life is what you make it and only you can improve it

[gcreek]

Old Indian Prayer -- Oh Creator, let me never judge another warrior hunters life, until I walk a kilometer in his or her moccasins ----
Jel -- The Creator and Rocko are watching you day and night with no fright -- it's outta sight --


Yup, sounds like the old "You don't understand" excuse so many use.

[Jelvis]

Can't go back n forth -- you have to make up your mind which side your on, jumping back n forth like native with no card?
gFreak you gotta card?
Jel - please don't play stoopid, just say yes or no, no maybe so and evading, yes or no Statys Card or Not? Waiting ????

[gcreek]

Can't go back n forth -- you have to make up your mind which side your on, jumping back n forth like native with no card?
gFreak you gotta card?
Jel - please don't play stoopid, just say yes or no, no maybe so and evading, yes or no Statys Card or Not? Waiting ????

Nope, no card. Nor have I ever been or ever will be eligible.

Have lived with Native friends and neighbors nearly my entire life. Been welcomed into their homes, went to school with, cowboyed, shared laughs and the odd beer with many and been called racist by some of them. Find it sad that peer pressure and lack of personal pride and responsibility prevents many from taking advantage of the abilities to better themselves through schooling and business opportunities that taxpayers like myself and many on this site provide. Too bad it's so much easier to pull the other guy down than give them a hand up.


Have seen firsthand how jealousy towards those who want to better themselves works on the Rez.

[miner_luke]

Old Indian Prayer -- Oh Creator, let me never judge another warrior hunters life, until I walk a kilometer in his or her moccasins ----
Jel -- The Creator and Rocko are watching you day and night with no fright -- it's outta sight --

Reminds me of the old quote from Mark Twain (paraphrase from memory) It's good to walk a mile in another man's shoes so that when he notices his shoes are gone, your at least a mile away ahead of him.

I think this issue is a prime example for why we need the BCPD back. If we want somebody to enforce BC law fairly it starts with having a police force accountable to Victoria not Ottawa. I have nothing personal at all again the fine officers of the RCMP but we need our own police force here in BC.

[Jelvis]

G -- What rez were you living by? Around Kamloops?
Jel -- People of the rivers -- Twin Rivers --> Not all bands are the same also <--

[LYKTOHUNT]

Get it started I will Contribute Money ! I am SURE lots others will too ! :wink: RJ
I am in as well

[bearvalley]

---------Thee United Nations told Johnny and Justin to " Stop stalling, it's time to reconcile, no more crawling, with no denial, start the file. then we sort the pile "--

The problem is that UNDRIP is only a resolution and is not binding.

Jelly, I work with FN’s, I call many my friends.... but the bottom line is this roadblock has absolutely nothing to do with growing more moose.

This roadblock or I should say cattlegaurd removal was nothing more than a political gesture....a muscle flexing attention getter.
Guys like Joe do have to run for re-election and stunts like this are just one way to keep the penny looking shiny.

Shutting down some of the excess access in the Chilcotin is part of the solution... but dealing with excessive predation is another part of the fix....not just shutting down a portion of 2 legged predation.

Then we have the part of the problem that Joe and many of his people do not want to talk about....the continually growing feral horse population that is a direct competition with over wintering moose.
These feral “shitters” have also been an ubundant alternate source of food to help feed that has helped to increase wolf numbers.
Instead of looking at these horses as part of the problem they have become an icon to Chilcotin First Nations.

The big plus in the area of concern is that a lot of it burnt last year...the habitat restoration has started.. it just will take a couple years to kick in.

Reduce access, reduce predation, reduce competition and restore some habitat and there’ll be moose again.

Digging up cattlegaurds is like pissing in the wind.

[Bugle M In]

Yup, drugs and alcohol don't discriminate based on color!
As for the old days and schooling, why don't you ask my dad how they were treated back in school.
Punished a lot, and physically, and verbally.
Again, that was just how society felt school should be, and how discipline was to be prescribed.
Again, discipline in school, didn't discriminate based on color, or where you live, here on in Europe or anywhere else.
Boarding schools were common, and how everyone back then thought it should be back then.
And being at war, well hell, you think that is something that only happen here in NA??
And did the FN live peacefully amongst themselves.....ya, didn't think so!
I think amends have been paid, and I ain't reconciliating anything any longer.
I am done saying sorry, and it time for them to "grow up"!
"Poor is me" is just shows weakness and no will to "get over it".
Like no one else has never had that happen to them, or had to go thru it, or is going thru it.
All about me, me, me....which is the same as wah , wah , wah!

[Jelvis]

One guy told me today that the Chiefs of the bands and their buds are keeping all the ca$h, cuz I ain't seeing any Hahahahahahahaha

--> Some Chiefs look tuff and ruff like Joe Alphonse looking like he's ready to rumble in the jungle and then you got female Chiefs that look like ahhh
How do I say this ah, solid, and know what's going on, got voted in by the members -- can talk socially very well and attend group meetings and don't take shit.
-----> Attractive also not like Joe Hahahahahahahahahahaha, sorry Joe lol -- some hunt also -- like you and I do.
Jelz Belz ----------> Pickin my Bonaparte - in Heffley Crick -- up Louis Creek with Mule Deer Zeek -- Chooch Chooch Chooch Chua -- Lil Fart <--------ll-=

[Jagermeister]

Some food for thought for you all. As you read through you come to understand that since there are limited treaties, the whole of the province is virtually an indian reserve.

Trespass on Reserves

Marginal note:Penalty for trespass
30 A person who trespasses on a reserve is guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding fifty dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one month or to both.


R.S., c. I-6, s. 30.


more to come

[Jagermeister]

Marginal note:Information by Attorney General


31 (1) Without prejudice to section 30, where an Indian or a band alleges that persons other than Indians are or have been

(a) unlawfully in occupation or possession of,
(b) claiming adversely the right to occupation or possession of, or
(c) trespassing on

a reserve or part of a reserve, the Attorney General of Canada may exhibit an information in the Federal Court claiming, on behalf of the Indian or band, the relief or remedy sought.
Marginal note:Information deemed action by Crown
(2) An information exhibited under subsection (1) shall, for all purposes of the Federal Courts Act (http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-7), be deemed to be a proceeding by the Crown within the meaning of that Act.
Marginal note:Existing remedies preserved
(3) Nothing in this section shall be construed to impair, abridge or otherwise affect any right or remedy that, but for this section, would be available to Her Majesty or to an Indian or a band.



R.S., 1985, c. I-5, s. 31;
2002, c. 8, s. 182.


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34 (1) A band shall ensure that the roads, bridges, ditches and fences within the reserve occupied by that band are maintained in accordance with instructions issued from time to time by the superintendent.
Marginal note:Idem
(2) Where, in the opinion of the Minister, a band has not carried out the instructions of the superintendent issued under subsection (1), the Minister may cause the instructions to be carried out at the expense of the band or any member thereof and may recover the cost thereof from any amounts that are held by Her Majesty and are payable to the band or member.



R.S., c. I-6, s. 34.


Lands Taken for Public Purposes

Marginal note:Taking of lands by local authorities


35 (1) Where by an Act of Parliament or a provincial legislature Her Majesty in right of a province, a municipal or local authority or a corporation is empowered to take or to use lands or any interest therein without the consent of the owner, the power may, with the consent of the Governor in Council and subject to any terms that may be prescribed by the Governor in Council, be exercised in relation to lands in a reserve or any interest therein.
Marginal note:Procedure
(2) Unless the Governor in Council otherwise directs, all matters relating to compulsory taking or using of lands in a reserve under subsection (1) are governed by the statute by which the powers are conferred.
Marginal note:Grant in lieu of compulsory taking
(3) Whenever the Governor in Council has consented to the exercise by a province, a municipal or local authority or a corporation of the powers referred to in subsection (1), the Governor in Council may, in lieu of the province, authority or corporation taking or using the lands without the consent of the owner, authorize a transfer or grant of the lands to the province, authority or corporation, subject to any terms that may be prescribed by the Governor in Council.
Marginal note:Payment
(4) Any amount that is agreed on or awarded in respect of the compulsory taking or using of land under this section or that is paid for a transfer or grant of land pursuant to this section shall be paid to the Receiver General for the use and benefit of the band or for the use and benefit of any Indian who is entitled to compensation or payment as a result of the exercise of the powers referred to in subsection (1).



R.S., c. I-6, s. 35.


Special Reserves

36 [Repealed, 2014, c. 38, s. 6]
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36.1 Where lands the legal title to which is not vested in Her Majesty had been set apart for the use and benefit of a band before the coming into force of this section, the effect of section 36 of this Act, as it read immediately before the coming into force of this section, continues in respect of those lands and this Act applies as though the lands were a reserve within the meaning of this Act.


2014, c. 38, s. 6.


Surrenders and Designations

Marginal note:Sales


37 (1) Lands in a reserve shall not be sold nor title to them conveyed until they have been absolutely surrendered to Her Majesty pursuant to subsection 38(1) by the band for whose use and benefit in common the reserve was set apart.
Marginal note:Other transactions
(2) Except where this Act otherwise provides, lands in a reserve shall not be leased nor an interest in them granted until they have been designated under subsection 38(2) by the band for whose use and benefit in common the reserve was set apart.



R.S., 1985, c. I-5, s. 37;
R.S., 1985, c. 17 (4th Supp.), s. 2;
2012, c. 31, s. 206.


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Marginal note:Surrender to Her Majesty


38 (1) A band may absolutely surrender to Her Majesty, conditionally or unconditionally, all of the rights and interests of the band and its members in all or part of a reserve.
Marginal note:Designation
(2) A band may, conditionally or unconditionally, designate, by way of a surrender to Her Majesty that is not absolute, any right or interest of the band and its members in all or part of a reserve, for the purpose of its being leased or a right or interest therein being granted.



R.S., 1985, c. I-5, s. 38;
R.S., 1985, c. 17 (4th Supp.), s. 2.


Marginal note:Conditions — surrender


39 (1) An absolute surrender is void unless

(a) it is made to Her Majesty;
(b) it is assented to by a majority of the electors of the band

(i) at a general meeting of the band called by the council of the band,
(ii) at a special meeting of the band called by the Minister for the purpose of considering a proposed absolute surrender, or
(iii) by a referendum as provided in the regulations; and


(c) it is accepted by the Governor in Council.


Marginal note:Minister may call meeting or referendum
(2) If a majority of the electors of a band did not vote at a meeting or referendum called under subsection (1), the Minister may, if the proposed absolute surrender was assented to by a majority of the electors who did vote, call another meeting by giving 30 days’ notice of that other meeting or another referendum as provided in the regulations.
Marginal note:Assent of band
(3) If a meeting or referendum is called under subsection (2) and the proposed absolute surrender is assented to at the meeting or referendum by a majority of the electors voting, the surrender is deemed, for the purposes of this section, to have been assented to by a majority of the electors of the band.
Marginal note:Secret ballot
(4) The Minister may, at the request of the council of the band or whenever he considers it advisable, order that a vote at any meeting under this section shall be by secret ballot.
Marginal note:Officials required
(5) Every meeting under this section shall be held in the presence of the superintendent or some other officer of the Department designated by the Minister.



R.S., 1985, c. I-5, s. 39;
R.S., 1985, c. 17 (4th Supp.), s. 3;
2012, c. 31, s. 207.


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Marginal note:Information by Attorney General


31 (1) Without prejudice to section 30, where an Indian or a band alleges that persons other than Indians are or have been

(a) unlawfully in occupation or possession of,
(b) claiming adversely the right to occupation or possession of, or
(c) trespassing on

a reserve or part of a reserve, the Attorney General of Canada may exhibit an information in the Federal Court claiming, on behalf of the Indian or band, the relief or remedy sought.
Marginal note:Information deemed action by Crown
(2) An information exhibited under subsection (1) shall, for all purposes of the Federal Courts Act (http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-7), be deemed to be a proceeding by the Crown within the meaning of that Act.
Marginal note:Existing remedies preserved
(3) Nothing in this section shall be construed to impair, abridge or otherwise affect any right or remedy that, but for this section, would be available to Her Majesty or to an Indian or a band.



R.S., 1985, c. I-5, s. 31;
2002, c. 8, s. 182.


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34 (1) A band shall ensure that the roads, bridges, ditches and fences within the reserve occupied by that band are maintained in accordance with instructions issued from time to time by the superintendent.
Marginal note:Idem
(2) Where, in the opinion of the Minister, a band has not carried out the instructions of the superintendent issued under subsection (1), the Minister may cause the instructions to be carried out at the expense of the band or any member thereof and may recover the cost thereof from any amounts that are held by Her Majesty and are payable to the band or member.



R.S., c. I-6, s. 34.


Lands Taken for Public Purposes

Marginal note:Taking of lands by local authorities


35 (1) Where by an Act of Parliament or a provincial legislature Her Majesty in right of a province, a municipal or local authority or a corporation is empowered to take or to use lands or any interest therein without the consent of the owner, the power may, with the consent of the Governor in Council and subject to any terms that may be prescribed by the Governor in Council, be exercised in relation to lands in a reserve or any interest therein.
Marginal note:Procedure
(2) Unless the Governor in Council otherwise directs, all matters relating to compulsory taking or using of lands in a reserve under subsection (1) are governed by the statute by which the powers are conferred.
Marginal note:Grant in lieu of compulsory taking
(3) Whenever the Governor in Council has consented to the exercise by a province, a municipal or local authority or a corporation of the powers referred to in subsection (1), the Governor in Council may, in lieu of the province, authority or corporation taking or using the lands without the consent of the owner, authorize a transfer or grant of the lands to the province, authority or corporation, subject to any terms that may be prescribed by the Governor in Council.
Marginal note:Payment
(4) Any amount that is agreed on or awarded in respect of the compulsory taking or using of land under this section or that is paid for a transfer or grant of land pursuant to this section shall be paid to the Receiver General for the use and benefit of the band or for the use and benefit of any Indian who is entitled to compensation or payment as a result of the exercise of the powers referred to in subsection (1).



R.S., c. I-6, s. 35.


Special Reserves

36 [Repealed, 2014, c. 38, s. 6]
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Marginal note:Special reserves
36.1 Where lands the legal title to which is not vested in Her Majesty had been set apart for the use and benefit of a band before the coming into force of this section, the effect of section 36 of this Act, as it read immediately before the coming into force of this section, continues in respect of those lands and this Act applies as though the lands were a reserve within the meaning of this Act.


2014, c. 38, s. 6.


Surrenders and Designations

Marginal note:Sales


37 (1) Lands in a reserve shall not be sold nor title to them conveyed until they have been absolutely surrendered to Her Majesty pursuant to subsection 38(1) by the band for whose use and benefit in common the reserve was set apart.
Marginal note:Other transactions
(2) Except where this Act otherwise provides, lands in a reserve shall not be leased nor an interest in them granted until they have been designated under subsection 38(2) by the band for whose use and benefit in common the reserve was set apart.



R.S., 1985, c. I-5, s. 37;
R.S., 1985, c. 17 (4th Supp.), s. 2;
2012, c. 31, s. 206.


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Marginal note:Surrender to Her Majesty


38 (1) A band may absolutely surrender to Her Majesty, conditionally or unconditionally, all of the rights and interests of the band and its members in all or part of a reserve.
Marginal note:Designation
(2) A band may, conditionally or unconditionally, designate, by way of a surrender to Her Majesty that is not absolute, any right or interest of the band and its members in all or part of a reserve, for the purpose of its being leased or a right or interest therein being granted.



R.S., 1985, c. I-5, s. 38;
R.S., 1985, c. 17 (4th Supp.), s. 2.


Marginal note:Conditions — surrender


39 (1) An absolute surrender is void unless

(a) it is made to Her Majesty;
(b) it is assented to by a majority of the electors of the band

(i) at a general meeting of the band called by the council of the band,
(ii) at a special meeting of the band called by the Minister for the purpose of considering a proposed absolute surrender, or
(iii) by a referendum as provided in the regulations; and


(c) it is accepted by the Governor in Council.


Marginal note:Minister may call meeting or referendum
(2) If a majority of the electors of a band did not vote at a meeting or referendum called under subsection (1), the Minister may, if the proposed absolute surrender was assented to by a majority of the electors who did vote, call another meeting by giving 30 days’ notice of that other meeting or another referendum as provided in the regulations.
Marginal note:Assent of band
(3) If a meeting or referendum is called under subsection (2) and the proposed absolute surrender is assented to at the meeting or referendum by a majority of the electors voting, the surrender is deemed, for the purposes of this section, to have been assented to by a majority of the electors of the band.
Marginal note:Secret ballot
(4) The Minister may, at the request of the council of the band or whenever he considers it advisable, order that a vote at any meeting under this section shall be by secret ballot.
Marginal note:Officials required
(5) Every meeting under this section shall be held in the presence of the superintendent or some other officer of the Department designated by the Minister.



R.S., 1985, c. I-5, s. 39;
R.S., 1985, c. 17 (4th Supp.), s. 3;
2012, c. 31, s. 207.


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Whats your point

[Jelvis]

I coody do 30 days standing on my head whao! Reserve land is thee small part where the Indians have houses and buildings, not the Crown land all around it.
Jel -- A reserve is a reserve land where the Indians live, not the Crown Land all around the bands property line. The Provincial Crown is open for anyone who has a BC Hunting license -- You if you want to hunt - no one can stop you -- Actual reserve property is relatively small -- it will have a sign and an entrance --
--

[browningboy]

All what would it take for the RCMP to take note? Run the road block, Indians shoot and kill guy because they are spineless to uphold the law? I say run over the sons of bitches! Enough is enough

[Jelvis]

Resident hunter's are very important, and our Ministry thank God Himself, understands this fact. Resident hunter's drive thee hunting in BC
-- I've been a supporter of resident hunter's all my life.
Jel -- BC Ministry of Environment needs to favor resident hunters for special leh's and gos placements because resident hunters of BC are hunters first.
--------Basically resident hunters keep the hunting alive financially as well -- leh aps and buying stuff for hunting -- I vote Yes for the residential hunters first.

[gcreek]

Resident hunter's are very important, and our Ministry thank God Himself, understands this fact. Resident hunter's drive thee hunting in BC
-- I've been a supporter of resident hunter's all my life.
Jel -- BC Ministry of Environment needs to favor resident hunters for special leh's and gos placements because resident hunters of BC are hunters first.
--------Basically resident hunters keep the hunting alive financially as well -- leh aps and buying stuff for hunting -- I vote Yes for the residential hunters first.

Sheesh Jelly, you've flopped over like a fish here...….

To answer your previous question, I have friends from many parts of BC but I live in the Chilcotin.

[gcreek]

All what would it take for the RCMP to take note? Run the road block, Indians shoot and kill guy because they are spineless to uphold the law? I say run over the sons of bitches! Enough is enough


One would wonder if the Liberal media and the Soros led UN would concern themselves with a shot whitey hunter. Mr Dressup surely wouldn't.

[lip_ripper00]

Excellent!! ... let’s just tear ourselves apart from within! First we need to get on the same page, and from the look at this thread, we are miles apart.

[Jagermeister]

Whats your point
The point is there is no resolution to the current debacle. Both levels of government have backed themselves into a hole. They have totally capitulated and will have to sign away the “farm”. Our elected officials will be subservient to the FN masters.

[Bugle M In]

Excellent!! ... let’s just tear ourselves apart from within! First we need to get on the same page, and from the look at this thread, we are miles apart.

well, we are pretty good at doing that (ripping ourselves apart from within).
and, we've been doing it for quite sometime now.

[hunter1947]

They take and don't give back why do they get away with this if we did this kind of stuff we would be in jail..

[gcreek]

Funny how the exposing of truth gets removed and the Indian bashing carries on...….

Agenda?

[browningboy]

Funny how the exposing of truth gets removed and the Indian bashing carries on...….

Agenda?


Agenda is to have everyone treated equally, all citizens of Canada are equal, no special rights etc. Otherwise the bashing will always be there and when Natives abuse their powers it just irritates people even more.. Thank the government for creating this mess.

[gcreek]

Agenda is to have everyone treated equally, all citizens of Canada are equal, no special rights etc. Otherwise the bashing will always be there and when Natives abuse their powers it just irritates people even more.. Thank the government for creating this mess.

It is still not right regardless, interesting what is encouraged on this site..... bashing Indians, shooting cows, soliciting beer money in the name of "canine removal", what's next?


I agree that we the people have let our governments create the mess with Natives but this kind of crap doesn't accomplish anything and never will.

[bearvalley]

Id be very interested if you could explain this post further.

Ask the moderator that removed posts to explain what went on.

[Island Roo]

Funny how the exposing of truth gets removed and the Indian bashing carries on...….

Agenda?

Which "exposing of truth" got removed?


Agenda is to have everyone treated equally, all citizens of Canada are equal, no special rights etc. Otherwise the bashing will always be there and when Natives abuse their powers it just irritates people even more.. Thank the government for creating this mess.

Exactly - this is the one thing most people seem to agree on.
I wish I knew how to channel this outrage. Its not just hunters feeling this.

Edit - ok I just read the last couple posts. Some "truth" was removed. Interesting.
Either way browingboy nailed it. As long as the authority sit on their asses in Victoria / Ottawa, this will escalate and lives will eventually be lost.

[Island Roo]

I just read my last post - maybe we are already fxxxed as far as what goes on in Victoria / Ottawa. (Not entirely)
But the rules need to be enforced on all citizens. Not only are the rules siding with minority groups, but the laws only being enforced against other groups.

[finngun]

bearvalley...It seems that 10 posts were conveniently removed overnight.
The moderators and the owner of HBC has best think about where their selective message deliverance has gotten us today. ////

idle no more????

[HarryToolips]

So if they're setting up illegal roadblocks, and the RCMP won't do anything about it, then let's get some equipment together, and dig up all the FSR's and make them impassible even by quad...if we can't use em, don't let them use them either...then, dig up the road in front of the reserve....if two wrongs don't make a right, how about three....

[gcreek]

I just read my last post - maybe we are already fxxxed as far as what goes on in Victoria / Ottawa. (Not entirely)
But the rules need to be enforced on all citizens. Not only are the rules siding with minority groups, but the laws only being enforced against other groups.


And bashing them on a forum does what?

[BgBlkDg]

There are some here whose personal, economic and perhaps other agendas are only too obvious to we who are mere resident, native-born, taxpaying BC people who may well have decades of personal, volunteer experience in environmental issues and activities.

I DO NOT trust the GOs, the NDP politicians, the "Indians" and I will NEVER acquiesce to or "obey" any so-called "national government" composed of the latter. I will NEVER accept any GO telling me where I may hunt, or, having special access to BC wildlife.

HBC, IMO, should represent the ORDINARY BC hunter and fxxk then GOs, Indians and foreign hunters!!!

[Ourea]

There are some here whose personal, economic and perhaps other agendas are only too obvious to we who are mere resident, native-born, taxpaying BC people who may well have decades of personal, volunteer experience in environmental issues and activities.

I DO NOT trust the GOs, the NDP politicians, the "Indians" and I will NEVER acquiesce to or "obey" any so-called "national government" composed of the former. I will NEVER accept any GO telling me where I may hunt, or, having special access to BC wildlife.

HBC, IMO, should represent the ORDINARY BC hunter and fxxk then GOs, Indians and foreign hunters!!!

Well, that was blunt and to the point.
LMAO

[Gateholio]

Yeah, yeah....

Its always “exposing the truth”

or others might call it “furthering a personal agenda and using any thread topic possible to do so”

There might be a conspiracy here, but it’s not from HBC. If you are just here to be disruptive, I’m happy to help you to the door.

[Jelvis]

I'm telling you, you, thee resident hunter are thee most important thing there iz for continued hunting in BC, you buy the leh aps, the tags, the license the hunting stuff and fuel and everything involved in legal hunting BC
--- No one else is keeping hunting alive and well as thee resident hunter and our Ministry knows that already --
Jel - the best to all resident hunters thru out BC in 2018 and beyond --

[bearvalley]

I DO NOT trust the GOs, the NDP politicians, the "Indians" and I will NEVER acquiesce to or "obey" any so-called "national government" composed of the latter. I will NEVER accept any GO telling me where I may hunt, or, having special access to BC wildlife.

HBC, IMO, should represent the ORDINARY BC hunter and fxxk then GOs, Indians and foreign hunters!!!

That a boy Dewey....give em hell.

At least you “call a spade a spade” and we know where you stand.
Thats more than I can say for the “so called hunters that are antis in camo”.

Have you had any GO’s tell you where you couldn’t go lately?

[BgBlkDg]

I think, Mike, that "people are figuring out" that the GOs and Indians, are not the most credible players in this game. Frankly, I think you might be surprised at the opinions I hear expressed by ordinary BC folks in, for example, the famed hunting region of the Kootenays.

To insinuate that there is some sort of "scam" by many resident hunters in any group is simply bizarre, IMO.

[gcreek]

I think, Mike, that "people are figuring out" that the GOs and Indians, are not the most credible players in this game. Frankly, I think you might be surprised at the opinions I hear expressed by ordinary BC folks in, for example, the famed hunting region of the Kootenays.

To insinuate that there is some sort of "scam" by many resident hunters in any group is simply bizarre, IMO.

Hey Dewey, I think I can speak for Mike and myself both in this instance, it isn’t the average, everyday resident hunter that we are concerning ourselves with. It is an organization that supposedly represents hunters and seems to want to keep things disruptive between RHs and GOs and Indians and ranchers to make them look like they are doing something for hunting. Quite obvious this isn’t necessarily their modus operendai.. A few on this site would like the general group to keep their blinders on. The finger pointing in this particular issue of moose populations should be pointed at everyone who has ever harvested a moose. We are all in this together.

[338win mag]

Nope, no card. Nor have I ever been or ever will be eligible.

Have lived with Native friends and neighbors nearly my entire life. Been welcomed into their homes, went to school with, cowboyed, shared laughs and the odd beer with many and been called racist by some of them. Find it sad that peer pressure and lack of personal pride and responsibility prevents many from taking advantage of the abilities to better themselves through schooling and business opportunities that taxpayers like myself and many on this site provide. Too bad it's so much easier to pull the other guy down than give them a hand up.


Have seen firsthand how jealousy towards those who want to better themselves works on the Rez.
So true gcreek,
The last time I checked the people of British Columbia own the Moose, not Joe.

[Bugle M In]

Hey Dewey, I think I can speak for Mike and myself both in this instance, it isn’t the average, everyday resident hunter that we are concerning ourselves with. It is an organization that supposedly represents hunters and seems to want to keep things disruptive between RHs and GOs and Indians and ranchers to make them look like they are doing something for hunting. Quite obvious this isn’t necessarily their modus operendai.. A few on this site would like the general group to keep their blinders on. The finger pointing in this particular issue of moose populations should be pointed at everyone who has ever harvested a moose. We are all in this together.

okay, I get it, you and bear hate the organization.
And some hate you both.
And most of us "just don't give a shit"!!
We want to move on, and deal with the frickin issues at hand!

Can we all do this now....!!!?????
Or are some of you so old, "you can't change"!!!!
Starting to think this is a bitch site for "old dogs" that can't learn a "new trick".

Lets everyone get over it, and try to fix the real problem right now, or everyone, RH or GO, won't have some areas to hunt,
or you will, but will have to pay a "Ransom"!!!

[horshur]

John Wayne is dead. RIP

[Island Roo]

And bashing them on a forum does what?
Was I bashing someone? I don't even know who you are talking about.

[gcreek]

Interesting how posts that are not profane or directly insult an individual but do go against one mods' opinion disappear.

[gcreek]

Was I bashing someone? I don't even know who you are talking about.

Apparently I'm not allowed to voice my opinion here.

[303savage]

Tsilhqot’in National Government (TNG)

Its ditched, trenched..large boulders placed.
RCMP should be immediatly sent in to confiscate the large equipment used..restore the provincial road on crown land and SELL the equipment to pay for road repatriation.

It will never happen , goverments seem to have a hands off approach. when it comes to first nations

[338win mag]

I see this mess as having the potential to de-stabilize the province both economically and socially.
The UN hacks that planted this seed don't care neither do the puppet chiefs care,, individual native people do however care about the state of relations that many worked hard to improve by bettering their lives and integrating themselves socially and economically.
Not sure who is going to invest in BC when a slewfoot could be coming your way anytime, whether it be hunting or real estate, its coming, which leads me to believe that its all planned out.

[Sirloin]

I see this mess as having the potential to de-stabilize the province both economically and socially.
The UN hacks that planted this seed don't care neither do the puppet chiefs care,, individual native people do however care about the state of relations that many worked hard to improve by bettering their lives and integrating themselves socially and economically.
Not sure who is going to invest in BC when a slewfoot could be coming your way anytime, whether it be hunting or real estate, its coming, which leads me to believe that its all planned out.

Ya dont say................hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Very important. Please read, understand whats rotting away our country from within.



https://i.imgur.com/64XiQuJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/s1wTmks.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4Ec8lLm.png

This appears to be his twitter handle. He used to go under the name @DeneRevenge that account has been taken down by twitter or deleted, im not sure what happened.
Chooses themes of "dene vengeance" and "revenge"....really sets the stage for this guy.

https://unsettlingamerica.wordpress.com/2013/11/05/for-our-nations-to-live-capitalism-must-die/

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/01/indigenous-left-glen-coulthard-interview/

http://www.sfu.ca/sfublogs-archive/departments/humanities-institute/3334_the-state-of-extraction-a-public-conference-on-mining-fossil-fuels-and-common-resources.html

https://fnis.arts.ubc.ca/persons/glen-coulthard/

https://politics.ubc.ca/persons/glen-coulthard/

http://dechinta.ca/faculty/

[Sirloin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui-QoA3taZw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui-QoA3taZw

[Sirloin]

Blocking vital infrastructure 101

"We need to warrior up!"

Classroom cheers.

"now that theres a threat to our water........ if they try to [inaudible] my territory, im gunna warrior up and have my gun ready!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUW5wzB_Gno


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUW5wzB_Gno

[Arctic Lake]

Sirloin Can not see what is the black boxes !
Arctic Lake

[SB75]

I am in for donations for a lawsuit. Is there any actual lawyers on here? I am surprised this hasn't gone anywhere

[Sirloin]

Hmmm in New Zealand representing Canada's University of British Columbia...lecturing on "Global RED POWER: Fanon and MAO ZEDONG on turtle island"


In case you aren't aware, they call Canada "Turtle Island" in these academic circles.
Hmmm what tactics can they draw from fanon and mao red power-era activism to "critically engage their own local, colonial situations"

Hmmmmmmmm how do you think it would go over if we had tax payer funded universities with professors drawing inspiration from hitler and nazi-era revolutions to apply in local communities at home today???

Not to well....but communist revolutionaries are A-OK!

https://i.imgur.com/lIUgLXn.jpg

[Spy]

Hmmm in New Zealand representing Canada's University of British Columbia...lecturing on "Global RED POWER: Fanon and MAO ZEDONG on turtle island"


In case you aren't aware, they call Canada "Turtle Island" in these academic circles.
Hmmm what tactics can they draw from fanon and mao red power-era activism to "critically engage their own local, colonial situations"

Hmmmmmmmm how do you think it would go over if we had tax payer funded universities with professors drawing inspiration from hitler and nazi-era revolutions to apply in local communities at home today???

Not to well....but communist revolutionaries are A-OK!

https://i.imgur.com/lIUgLXn.jpg
Its getting the stupid ready for one world order a government that we will not elect, the globalists/elite have been planning this for decades..
they have all their comrades in our learning institutions grooming our children....

[Ourea]

Heck of a hunting website eh!!!

[wideopenthrottle]

sad to see all the fighting amongst us lowly peons who are destined to be the losers.....all the while the lawyers and chiefs (native chiefs and political chiefs) line their pockets

[Jagermeister]

Heck of a hunting website eh!!!There is nothing wrong with being enlightened.
What will you hunt with once Turdeau and his cronies (include the Aga Kahn) remove firearms from Canadian citizens? Who has impunity from the laws of the land? Here's more.
http://mohawknationnews.com/blog/category/new-world-order/
See that, NEW-WORLD-ORDER?
Anyone ever peruse the Aga Kahn Foundation Canada? You will be enthralled to know how some of your tax dollars are well spent and you can even donate if you are inclined to think that the foundation has a short fall. You will get an idea of the interrelationship with the Aga and the Prime Minister.
You know, when I think about it, it may not seem like a bad idea to get on board with Maxime Bernier.

[Hadda]

This site is ridiculous. How about we get back to hunting?

[Darksith]

This site is ridiculous. How about we get back to hunting?

9 year member with 149 posts...OK then ;)

[ACE]

This site is ridiculous. How about we get back to hunting?

Hunting access has become a political issue.
No access = no hunt.

[gcreek]

Hunting access has become a political issue.
No access = no hunt.


No no game and you will be doing lots of hunting.

[walks with deer]

will it would appear alphonse has tried to stop hunting there for 20 years....last time i was in chezacut the harvest tactics looked very aggresive by the locals...

[browningboy]

I just wrote into CBC and Global asking for a storey on why illegal road blocks are not getting removed by the RCMP in region 5 area of BC?

[Ourea]

Issue being, and point being made, is that if you drill thru the posts 80 to 90% of the folks on HBC have not contributed a hunting story, a picture, a trail cam video of a potential victim.

They debate.
To think that HBC is a legitimate high level platform on politics......nuts.
No one take my remarks personally as they are not directed at anyone specifically.

HBC stands for HUNTING BC and craves hunting content.
I am not saying that some of the political issues we face, as outdoorsmen, are not extremely important.

What I am struggling with is that many hard core hunters, that could share so so much on OUR sport, do not visit this site.

Question is why is that if this is a hunting website.
Answer is obvious.

Come on guys.....post some HUNTING shit.

[russm]

Issue being, and point being made, is that if you drill thru the posts 80 to 90% of the folks on HBC have not contributed a hunting story, a picture, a trail cam video of a potential victim.

They debate.
To think that HBC is a legitimate high level platform on politics......nuts.
No one take my remarks personally as they are not directed at anyone specifically.

HBC stands for HUNTING BC and craves hunting content.
I am not saying that some of the political issues we face, as outdoorsmen, are not extremely important.

What I am struggling with is that many hard core hunters, that could share so so much on OUR sport, do not visit this site.

Question is why is that if this is a hunting website.
Answer is obvious.

Come on guys.....post some HUNTING shit.

Ive noticed in the last year or so that the site has gotten way more political/ currents events than hunting, if I want that stuff I’ll go to a news site, unless it directly has to do with hunting I’ll go to a news site, let’s get back to posting pics of dead stuff and hunting stories

[srupp]

Hmmm was in a restaurant today to meet a couple of moose hunters..there was a table right next to me looking at a cell phone screen of the Raven lake road being deactivated..laughing ....all were indians ..someone who had that phone was present when the road was vandalized..couldnt help myself..was like watching a slow motion train wreck..actually were big equipment used.
Steven

[Jelvis]

Hey Steve you had your chance that a lotta guys on here have said, " If I see these guys! " You and the moose hunters cood have engaged a conversation and see where it goes from there?
Jel -- Maybe clear some stuff up -- might end up knowing each udder and talk it over --? Just sayin, you had your chance so.

[J_T]

Issue being, and point being made, is that if you drill thru the posts 80 to 90% of the folks on HBC have not contributed a hunting story, a picture, a trail cam video of a potential victim.

They debate.
To think that HBC is a legitimate high level platform on politics......nuts.
No one take my remarks personally as they are not directed at anyone specifically.

HBC stands for HUNTING BC and craves hunting content.
I am not saying that some of the political issues we face, as outdoorsmen, are not extremely important.

What I am struggling with is that many hard core hunters, that could share so so much on OUR sport, do not visit this site.

Question is why is that if this is a hunting website.
Answer is obvious.

Come on guys.....post some HUNTING shit.
I would suggest a couple of very simple reasons for this. On this site, when people post good hunting stories, they are questioned and challenged in 'some' way. It's disheartening. And second, all of a sudden, the place they hunted is full of people. Look at Hunter1947's shed hunts. He used to have great video and images, now you just see video of his velcro runners walking through the forest toward an antler.
Just sayin.

[srupp]

Hmmm yes Jelly I was there..but there was 15 indians there.. plus 4 other tables...hell even most of the women were bigger than me. .lol
I had out of town guests..there is a time I pick that will mean far more than a disagreement in a restaurant. .
However I did view 30 seconds of the video..
Cheers
Steven

[Jelvis]

Ok yah - You did the right thing as far as I can see, Steve, your not ignorant that's for sure buddy.
Jel -- Stevie wonder - keep up the good posts - bro

[horshur]

I would suggest a couple of very simple reasons for this. On this site, when people post good hunting stories, they are questioned and challenged in 'some' way. It's disheartening. And second, all of a sudden, the place they hunted is full of people. Look at Hunter1947's shed hunts. He used to have great video and images, now you just see video of his velcro runners walking through the forest toward an antler.
Just sayin.
It’s truth..loose lips sink ships.

[srupp]

Hoping to post some kick ass hunting stories real soon..headed out for moose..2 tags..plus bear tags plus deer tags plus grouse..
My arguments are not with individual natives..they are people..my argument is with policies.
Politicians. .and race based decisions..If in the same place would demand all I could get away with too..
Cheers to Kamloops
Steven

[horshur]

Just a heads up...BCTS is deactivating roads. Already seen where First Nations were blamed when it was BCTS. Hate to see folks pissed cause the rd has been pulled....when they have been bitching about to many roads..and it is the government doing it...oh to be a politician!

[srupp]

Just a heads up...BCTS is deactivating roads. Already seen where First Nations were blamed when it was BCTS. Hate to see folks pissed cause the rd has been pulled....when they have been bitching about to many roads..and it is the government doing it...oh to be a politician!

Good point..however Raven, Mackin were indian caused, claimed..
Govt would not do this at night trapping hunters, fishermen behind the mayhem.
Steven
Ps govt truly puts a road to bed..do it so it restricts everyone

[walks with deer]

all for taking out some roads to protect moose...
road densitie is the biggest factor in survival for moose.

[bigneily]

I hope everything stays on the cool , I am heading out on the 27th to vanderhoof and then south on the klus kus fsr to 6-01 . It would be shitty to make the drive to be blocked access.

[srupp]

I hope everything stays on the cool , I am heading out on the 27th to vanderhoof and then south on the klus kus fsr to 6-01 . It would be shitty to make the drive to be blocked access.

Hmm I think you will be fine the BC govt made it all better..whatever the $$$$$$ payoff..whatever the cost..millions? Or perhaps 50 thousand pounds of prime beef..or both..some sweetheart deal was done..crime does pay.
Drive safetly, shoot straight..you, nor do we know what next year will bring.
Srupp

[bigneily]

Thanx srupp , I gotta say I am curious as to what they settled on for sure . Neil

[Arctic Lake]

Issue being, and point being made, is that if you drill thru the posts 80 to 90% of the folks on HBC have not contributed a hunting story, a picture, a trail cam video of a potential victim.

They debate.
To think that HBC is a legitimate high level platform on politics......nuts.
No one take my remarks personally as they are not directed at anyone specifically.

HBC stands for HUNTING BC and craves hunting content.
I am not saying that some of the political issues we face, as outdoorsmen, are not extremely important.

What I am struggling with is that many hard core hunters, that could share so so much on OUR sport, do not visit this site.

Question is why is that if this is a hunting website.
Answer is obvious.

Come on guys.....post some HUNTING shit.

Ourea I would love to be able to post some hunting pictures and a story or two but have yet to make it out this year and I did not get an LEH draw for moose this year ! But I hear ya !

I think most HBC members try and acknowledge the success all the fine hunters here have that are able to harvest the great animals this province has to offer.
Also to acknowledge the not so successful hunters that put in time and money to enjoy all that a hunt has to offer .
Just a thought !
Arctic Lake

[willyqbc]

Pretty simple to understand why there is less hunting content on here these days....by and large there are way less animals harvested.

as an example from a harvest stats paper I was reading

in 1987 42,526 hunters spent 338,482 days in the field and harvested 13,463 moose
in 2014 30,172 hunters spent 261,667 days in the field and harvested 5,773 moose

30% less hunters spent 23% less time in the bush yet the harvest went down 58%

not hard to believe that downward trend has continued forward to today. I would also expect similiar stats for elk and deer.

Less critters taken = less "nice" ones taken = less posts. Lots of people won't post a story or photo unless they feel the animal is noteworthy

[Ourea]

Success and harvest never gets in the way of those that know what they are doing.

I hear ya on things getting a bit skinny out there these days but one has to roll

[338win mag]

Perhaps this thread and other political threads should be over on the political forum, after all, it is the most important issue facing all hunters and Canadians today. Then if those that dont want to be informed about these issue's dont have to have them "rammed" down their throat.
Thanks to Sirloin for bringing many of these issue's to my/our attention as I really was quite unaware of how Canada's native people were being used to further an agenda. Suppression of information is a tool that is common when a brainwashing is in order.