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campking
09-21-2018, 01:17 AM
I tried to research this and was having a hard time to get information so I thought I would ask Do I need to carry my actual PAL with me while I am transporting my rifle with me to go hunting or while I am hunting?
Thanks!

Drillbit
09-21-2018, 02:04 AM
You're wondering if you need to have your PAL on you when you are in possession of a firearm?

Your PAL instructor should've taught you that.


In Canada, since c68, it is illegal to posses a firearm. But, you are exempt if you posses a valid PAL.

Bunner
09-21-2018, 05:00 AM
When ever you are in possession of a fire arm. Don't matter whether your transporting it from on place or another or hunting. And like above, your instructor should have have taught you that

notyalc
09-21-2018, 07:28 AM
Doesn’t matter if an instructor taught that or not, it’s common sense. Do you need your drivers licence on you when you’re driving?

sumonda
09-21-2018, 07:58 AM
So if you were to get stopped and asked to produce your license, your response would be "I wasn't sure if I needed it"? Seriously just put it in your wallet with your drivers license and be on your way.

campking
09-21-2018, 07:58 AM
Sorry for asking and this is the exact reason people tend to not post on here, anyways thanks for the help.

Billybird
09-21-2018, 07:59 AM
Absolutely! When in possession of a firearm you must also have on your person a current PAL.

wideopenthrottle
09-21-2018, 08:00 AM
so no exceptions eh? keyboard warriors! hmmmmmmm

Jelvis
09-21-2018, 08:08 AM
campking good question, nothing wrong with asking HBC members first b4 going off on some search. There's always going to be members who like to use another to make a joke -- don't let them bother you, stick with members who understand -- "There are no stupid questions, ask hbc first, we are hunters first, "
Jelly -- Make it as simple as we can, and then we understand -- :lol:

campking
09-21-2018, 08:14 AM
campking good question, nothing wrong with asking HBC members first b4 going off on some search. There's always going to be members who like to use another to make a joke -- don't let them bother you, stick with members who understand -- "There are no stupid questions, ask hbc first, we are hunters first, "
Jelly -- Make it as simple as we can, and then we understand -- :lol:
Thanks Jelvis
Your right, the reason I asked is when I got to my cabin I realized I forgot the darn thing and I was going to call my daughter to send me a photo of it but probably not legal so 4 days watching TV sucks and please guys I know I screwed up!

wideopenthrottle
09-21-2018, 08:27 AM
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/owner-proprietaire-eng.htm

ExceptionA licence is not necessary to borrow a firearm if the borrower remains under the direct and immediate supervision of a properly licensed adult aged 18 or older.

wideopenthrottle
09-21-2018, 08:29 AM
I would get the pic of your pal sent and hunt like usual....as a side note, of all the times I have talked to a CO in the woods, I have never been asked for my pal

wideopenthrottle
09-21-2018, 08:41 AM
http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?94850-Do-I-need-to-carry-my-firearm-license-with-me-when-I-take-my-rifle-out-hunting

Island Roo
09-21-2018, 09:06 AM
Yeah - get the picture and hunt.
If you have the picture and explain the situation and able to produce the real thing later, I think most co's would be ok. Not sure about the letter of the law but thats what I would.
Also agree about reluctance to post - there's alot of tough guy egos and bullying on this forum

Dash
09-21-2018, 11:23 AM
Jelvis said it best. Ignore the others.

Stresd
09-21-2018, 12:52 PM
I would get the pic of your pal sent and hunt like usual....as a side note, of all the times I have talked to a CO in the woods, I have never been asked for my pal

And they never will. I have asked a CO why they don't ask for a Pal after I tried to hand him mine when stopped and he told me he didn't want to see it. Just wanted my hunting license/tags. A Pal is federal and CO is Provincial which is why a CO will never ask to see your Pal. RCMP is the other way around. They will only want to see your Pal and won't ask for a hunting license.

srthomas75
09-21-2018, 01:03 PM
I don't think my PAL or FAC has left my desk drawer. [ I suppose I',m hunting / gun carrying against the law? ] Nor have I been stopped by the rcmp so its never been an issue to me. to the OP: go enjoy your hunt this weekend.

likemaple
09-21-2018, 01:09 PM
some replies may seem salty, but this is kinda knowledge that people think should be a common sense.
looks like common sense not so common these days
no offense

Rieber
09-21-2018, 01:13 PM
You might want a friend with a valid PAL to transport your firearm back home with them and you pick it up later with your PAL.

limit time
09-21-2018, 02:07 PM
campking good question, nothing wrong with asking HBC members first b4 going off on some search. There's always going to be members who like to use another to make a joke -- don't let them bother you, stick with members who understand -- "There are no stupid questions, ask hbc first, we are hunters first, "
Jelly -- Make it as simple as we can, and then we understand -- :lol:
speaking of joke ;).

Jelvis
09-21-2018, 02:11 PM
limit time -- whad are you trying to tell all the mambers here about jelly belly?
Jelly --nooooh noo holy gotta go --

j270wsm
09-21-2018, 09:49 PM
I don't think my PAL or FAC has left my desk drawer. [ I suppose I',m hunting / gun carrying against the law? ] Nor have I been stopped by the rcmp so its never been an issue to me. to the OP: go enjoy your hunt this weekend.



Back when I was 19, I was heading home from Grandforks when I was pulled over for speeding in cranbrook. When the officer approached my truck he noticed the whole ( head still attached ) skinned out deer in my truck( ford ranger ). He asked if I had a valid hunting licence and/or firearms in the vehicle. He inspected my rifle( unloaded in an unlocked gun case, no trigger lock ) looked at my licence and tag then questioned where I got it and the reason it was only a 2pt. He let me go on my way after I explained that it was taken in a " any buck " zone in region 8 and that due to the heat I was trying to get home asap.

It might have been due to it being 2000 not 2018 or that it happened in cranbrook but he never asked if I had an FAC.

russm
09-21-2018, 09:59 PM
There is some terrible advice on here sometimes lol, it’s called a POSSESION license for a reason, I’m pretty sure most of the “I had such and such happen” responses are BS, if you get stopped with a gun and no license you’re for no to be in some kind of trouble.

walks with deer
09-21-2018, 10:12 PM
i hunted all of 2011no pal no dl shot 3 deer immy moose and 2bears pulled over 3 times no issues lol

Gateholio
09-21-2018, 10:29 PM
The guys telling you to go back to PAL school should actually do so themselves.

If you have a valid PAL you are breaking no law by having a firearm in your possession, hunting with a firearm or transporting it.

While it is far easier to carry your PAL in case you need to show it to a Peace officer, the worst that can happen is that your firearm is seized until you produce it. You can't get fined, ticketed, go to jail etc.

If I went on a hunting trip and forgot my PAL I would just go hunting.

Gateholio
09-21-2018, 10:40 PM
http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?94850-Do-I-need-to-carry-my-firearm-license-with-me-when-I-take-my-rifle-out-hunting

Read my comments on this thread, it spells it out pretty good.

ncurrie
09-22-2018, 06:16 AM
I tried to research this and was having a hard time to get information so I thought I would ask Do I need to carry my actual PAL with me while I am transporting my rifle with me to go hunting or while I am hunting?
Thanks!

we had a group of kids up at Cathy lake last spring. co asked to see fishing licenses and when they saw the .22 and rifle as we were going target practicing afterwards they asked my husband for his Pal. He pointed his finger at me and I produced my Pal and everything was good. You need to carry your Pal with you when your guns are near you at all times. A CO or a police officer can ask for it.

notyalc
09-22-2018, 06:34 AM
Took 5 seconds to find this with google.


http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/lic-per-eng.htm#b11 (http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/lic-per-eng.htm#b11)

300H&H
09-22-2018, 06:54 AM
You're wondering if you need to have your PAL on you when you are in possession of a firearm?

Your PAL instructor should've taught you that.


In Canada, since c68, it is illegal to posses a firearm. But, you are exempt if you posses a valid PAL.


When ever you are in possession of a fire arm. Don't matter whether your transporting it from on place or another or hunting. And like above, your instructor should have have taught you that


Doesn’t matter if an instructor taught that or not, it’s common sense. Do you need your drivers licence on you when you’re driving?


So if you were to get stopped and asked to produce your license, your response would be "I wasn't sure if I needed it"? Seriously just put it in your wallet with your drivers license and be on your way.

Same ignorant BS just a different bunch of keyboard warriors.

Seriously.....the guy just asked a question.

Like many, he may have thought that with the wealth of knowledge on HBC, why not just ask.
But noooo.....he has to be criticized and made to feel stupid.
This is one of the reason I have stayed away for a couple of years.
Too many negative people.
Looks like somethings will never change.

BTW....what is the name of that OTHER hunting forum that so many left here to join ?
Just asking.....so don't shit down my neck.

campking
09-22-2018, 07:34 AM
The guys telling you to go back to PAL school should actually do so themselves.

If you have a valid PAL you are breaking no law by having a firearm in your possession, hunting with a firearm or transporting it.

While it is far easier to carry your PAL in case you need to show it to a Peace officer, the worst that can happen is that your firearm is seized until you produce it. You can't get fined, ticketed, go to jail etc.

If I went on a hunting trip and forgot my PAL I would just go hunting.
Thanks i appreciate your response.
I had my daughter text me a photo so I am going hunting!

campking
09-22-2018, 07:36 AM
Same ignorant BS just a different bunch of keyboard warriors.

Seriously.....the guy just asked a question.

Like many, he may have thought that with the wealth of knowledge on HBC, why not just ask.
But noooo.....he has to be criticized and made to feel stupid.
This is one of the reason I have stayed away for a couple of years.
Too many negative people.
Looks like somethings will never change.

BTW....what is the name of that OTHER hunting forum that so many left here to join ?
Just asking.....so don't shit down my neck.
Thanks for this, stupid is exactly how I was made to feel I was only asking for a little help

300H&H
09-22-2018, 08:30 AM
Thanks for this, stupid is exactly how I was made to feel I was only asking for a little help

You are welcome.

trebreklaw
09-22-2018, 08:58 AM
If you read the paper that comes in the mail with your card it states that you must carry and produce the paper as well. Its another technicality that the feds can use if they want.

firebird
09-22-2018, 09:05 AM
Never have my PAL when hunting. I don't want to lose it in the bush.

Also never been been asked to produce it other then when crossing the boarder coming home into Canada

also not going to start carrying it

kolofardos
09-22-2018, 09:19 AM
The guys telling you to go back to PAL school should actually do so themselves.

If you have a valid PAL you are breaking no law by having a firearm in your possession, hunting with a firearm or transporting it.

While it is far easier to carry your PAL in case you need to show it to a Peace officer, the worst that can happen is that your firearm is seized until you produce it. You can't get fined, ticketed, go to jail etc.

If I went on a hunting trip and forgot my PAL I would just go hunting.

As usual, Gateholio is the voice of reason.

dbergen69
09-22-2018, 09:38 AM
Same ignorant BS just a different bunch of keyboard warriors.

Seriously.....the guy just asked a question.

Like many, he may have thought that with the wealth of knowledge on HBC, why not just ask.
But noooo.....he has to be criticized and made to feel stupid.
This is one of the reason I have stayed away for a couple of years.
Too many negative people.
Looks like somethings will never change.

BTW....what is the name of that OTHER hunting forum that so many left here to join ?
Just asking.....so don't shit down my neck.

Facebook .... somevery good hunting groups.

Wagonmaster
09-22-2018, 11:07 AM
Agree. No need for the negative posts that ultimately drive people away from a forum that they may ultimately contribute to. I think the OP's question was a good one. Quite likely that many on this site were not exactly sure of the answer. Article in todays Victoria paper stating that social media is causing people to resign from political positions and discouraging good candidates from running. Seems the cons of social media are beginning to out way the pros. Unfortunate. Hang in there campking.

IslandWanderer
09-22-2018, 11:12 AM
Sorry for asking and this is the exact reason people tend to not post on here, anyways thanks for the help.

Lots of cranky people on this site. Like catty old women in an office.

Bugle M In
09-22-2018, 11:22 AM
Same ignorant BS just a different bunch of keyboard warriors.

Seriously.....the guy just asked a question.

Like many, he may have thought that with the wealth of knowledge on HBC, why not just ask.
But noooo.....he has to be criticized and made to feel stupid.
This is one of the reason I have stayed away for a couple of years.
Too many negative people.
Looks like somethings will never change.

BTW....what is the name of that OTHER hunting forum that so many left here to join ?
Just asking.....so don't shit down my neck.

I concur with this^^^^
We are here to "help" each, and support each the best possible...IMO.

IslandWanderer
09-22-2018, 11:30 AM
some replies may seem salty, but this is kinda knowledge that people think should be a common sense.
looks like common sense not so common these days
no offense

You’ve only made 5 posts since 2016, but took the time to suggest the OP doesn’t have common sense. ‘No offense’

hunter1947
09-23-2018, 04:06 AM
Its a new law now that a person has to carry there drivers L on them when hunting to prove that they are a BC resident..

Muledeercrazy2
09-23-2018, 08:11 PM
I don't like to leave my wallet in my truck so usually have it by default, but have only ever worried about my license/ tags. CO's don't ask for your PAL, at least not in my experience

ACE
09-23-2018, 08:22 PM
It's a new law now that a person has to carry their drivers licence on them when hunting to prove that they are a BC resident.

Your identity can also be proved with the BC Identity Card.

gunpower
09-24-2018, 12:17 PM
Sorry for asking and this is the exact reason people tend to not post on here, anyways thanks for the help.
campking , thats why I do not do much posting, as there are to many people out there that think they know everything and everybody else should know it also. I always told my apprentices that there is no such thing as a stupid question , but there is a lot of stupid answers !!! If you are not sure about some thing , phone the CO"s !!

wideopenthrottle
09-25-2018, 06:52 AM
This is what I got when I emailed the question....I was surprised they indicate they want the physical card...my question is at the bottom and their reply on top


Thank you for your correspondence.

You must have your actual valid PAL card on you while inpossession of a firearm.

If you have any further questions, you may email or callus at 1-800-731-4000.

Thank you
Karri


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>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>2018/09/21 2:02 PM
>>>
I have a question about what constitutes acceptable proofof being a PAL holder.
Is a picture of your PAL (on your phone for example)sufficient or do you need the plastic card to be on your person while hunting(and in
possession) of a non-restricted rifle ? is Regular IDproof enough?

Thanks
XXXXX XXXX

Gateholio
09-25-2018, 07:27 AM
Karri should read the Firearms Act.