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RyoTHC
05-05-2018, 04:26 PM
Well, I'll preface this by apologizing in advance as my story won't be as elaborate or detailed as some of the others I love reading on here. I'd also like to point out luck was really on my side here! so much so that I Started this season helping two of my hunting buddies scout and hunt for their first bears, When they kept asking why I wasn't hunting for mine first then help them, I joked that I was going to get mine on May the 4th, since the "force" will be with me.. (I really just still had some fall bear in the freezer but I wanted to have some fun with it) fast forward to the end of may, and we polished off the last of our fall bear at home here... so the hunt was on!


From my limited bear hunting experience, I have quickly learned success comes to those who sleep in and don't rush what so ever, So I picked up my hunting partner just before 2PM we fueled up (OUCH) grabbed snow for the cooler, and hit the road,


Over the next 5 hours we explored a couple different WMU's in zone 3 through all types of terrain trying to get some sign we could work and hopefully connect with a nice plump bear for the freezer. after several hours of driving and a handful of fruitless hikes into drainages and valleys we came to a spot in the road more than the length of my truck that was completely washed out with a nice 15-20' drop beneath it... so needless to say that stopped us in our tracks, and didn't allow us to finish our route that we had pre planned which wasn't so upsetting as in that time we had seen one mule deer doe and two grouse.. after some discussion we decided to go back to two valleys that didn't hold anything but looked promising as it was now later in the evening and things should be livening up, and boy did they ever! over the next 90 minutes saw over 20 deer, a mix between white tail and mule deer as well as a few moose and three other smaller black bears, we now knew which way the wind was coming from so we made sure to put the boots to the ground on the right side of the ridge.. the first valley we didn't stick around at because the wind direction was 100% against us and we didn't have access to the back side of the ravine, so we moved on to the next one, made the short hike to the ridge and started glassing.


it was now almost 8pm and after no more than 5 minutes, way over on the valley bottom by the water, was a bear feeding.. 1000yard range finder was not able to range it, but it looked like a bear that was worth investigating based on how visible it was to the naked eye at that distance (later checked my gps, and it was 1.2KM from ridge to bear). We immediately got excited and started to bounce ideas off each other to figure out our best way down as we were on a steep ridge overlooking the valley, after a few seconds and the bear munching away slowly away from us we decided to quit wasting time and head straight down and through the thick bush in order to get where we thought we were about parallel with him, then we used the hill beside us to regain a bit of elevation to get a look over all the brush growing beside the creek (turned out to be a bit more than a creek, at over 8ft deep and barely 5ft wide).


After what felt like an eternity of sitting on the hillside waiting and hoping for the bear to show itself again, it eventually meandered back out into the open munching on the fresh grass, we looked around to see where we could set up with a proper shooting lane, My hunting partner stayed still where we had already seen him and had a good line, and I quietly moved a hundred yards or so up stream to get a shooting lane on another opening in the brush, we had decided that based on the size of this bear, and the fact we were pretty confident that it was a boar, that if either of us got an ideal shot we'd take it, as we had all the exits from the plateu covered.


After a few moments a gust of wind blew across my face and spun through the valley and no sooner did I feel the wind on my face, did I see the bear stand up in his hind legs, look directly at me and sniff the air.. I knew then that I was busted, and that he was about to hit the ground running (hopefully away from me! as we had closed the gap down to 150 yards.) I then decided as he was on his way back down to all fours that was my chance to get a clean hit and have no meat wasted, and boy was I right! Double lung soup, and the bear hit the ground where it stood.. no tracking for hours, no not finding the bear! after the shot, we moved back up and away to watch from a distance to ensure it was dead before we approached, once we were confident it was safe to move in, we decided we would cross the creek at the narrowest point, cut and quarter and pack it out in a few trips (much to our dismay) once we got to the creek, I used my hiking pole to feel around to ensure we would have good footing as the current was pretty swift from all the snow thawing around us and draining into the valley, unfortunately for us, what we had assumed was a creek that was just fast moving, was actually at least chest deep and there was no way we were safely going to get across this, we walked both ways for a while and there was no chance to get around, then panic started to set in... my bear is on the other side, and we can't get to it! After a few minutes of chaos I was able to think clearly, and turned to my GPS to see how far we had to go to get around it.. and that's when lady luck smiled on us... according to my gps a few KM up the road, there was an old deactivated road that took you across the creek via bridge.. well, thankfully that bridge was intact, but when they say deactivated, they certainly mean it! The bear hit the dirt at 8:25pm and we didn't put our hands on him until almost 11pm!! and we didn't get him home and skinned until the witching hour of 3am... It was a long day, and i'm sore and tired today.. but let me tell you.. IT WAS WORTH IT!! Couldn't have asked for a better start to the hunting season, and it really amped up my hunting partners to get their boots on the ground and to cut some tags as well!


Gun of choice for this outing was a Xbolt Hells canyon speed in 6.5 CM shooting 143grain ELD x under 35.5grains of varget.
Topped with a Vortex viper pst gen II.


Now lets get to the pictures, since I know that's all everyone wants....


We will start with our view from the hillside while we waited to ensure it was safe,


http://i68.tinypic.com/2ex6kg9.jpg

To be continued...

nature girl
05-05-2018, 05:29 PM
Great write up and glad you had a safe way to get to your bear.

RyoTHC
05-05-2018, 06:06 PM
Here's a couple pictures prior to field dressing as we checked this amazing animal out, I am both proud and honored to have been able to harvest such a beautiful animal!

I am also thankful to have such helpful hunting partners as currently I'd never be able to do any of this alone ! And certainly couldn't imagine attemtping to harvest an animal of this caliber without multiple sets of hands, pulling the trigger is the easiest part by a landslide!


http://i68.tinypic.com/oszz2s.jpg


http://i63.tinypic.com/35cndb9.jpg



more to come..

hawk-i
05-05-2018, 06:21 PM
Congrats. ...good show!

Brew
05-05-2018, 06:28 PM
Great bear. Congrats and thanks for sharing

Salty
05-05-2018, 06:33 PM
Congrats Ryo nice bear for sure. Sounds like you prefer the afternoon shift all right :)

IslandWanderer
05-05-2018, 06:51 PM
Nice looking bear!

dmaxtech
05-05-2018, 08:40 PM
That’s a long hunt but worth it for a bear like that. Great effort. Saved a bunch of fawns with that one.

RyoTHC
05-05-2018, 08:51 PM
And a few pictures this morning as I cleaned up the hide to show the color of this brute!

http://i64.tinypic.com/2nst47o.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/16jmvpu.jpg




Washed the blood out and prepped it to head to the taxidermist!
Bear made it to the butcher for 9am, and is on it's way to being sausage, smokies, peperoni and burger
Now it's time to RELAX!
Now that it's nice and I can start cleaning up skulls etc, I'll post some stories and pictures of my 2017 bucks over the next few days.




Happy hunting all!

guest
05-05-2018, 09:00 PM
Nice Bear, very nice color phase, what a pumpkin head. Congrats.

Thanks is for the share.

WWBC
05-05-2018, 10:05 PM
Nice bear!

Bear Chaser
05-05-2018, 10:29 PM
Great looking bear!!

HarryToolips
05-05-2018, 10:33 PM
Very nice bear congrats!

caddisguy
05-05-2018, 10:47 PM
Holy crap. I was going to read this thread tomorrow (busy trimming and vacuuming packing) but couldn't resist. Awesome pics and great bear. I am waiting until tomorrow to read my favorite part (the story!) ... congrats !!!

Rattler
05-05-2018, 10:48 PM
Congrats on a dandy bear!

Rhyno
05-06-2018, 06:48 AM
What a pig! You guy certainly earned that one. Thanks for the great write up.

45freezer
05-06-2018, 06:55 AM
Beauty bear, great write up as well, definitely lucked out on that deactivated road. Should make for tasty eats and a 5 star rug!

Wild one
05-06-2018, 07:39 AM
Nicely done

Can tell May is here a few bears are hitting the ground now

RyoTHC
05-06-2018, 07:53 AM
Thank you everyone !

Does anyone have experience freezing a pelt this size prior to taking it to the taxidermist ? The taxidermist I spoke to recommended clearing off what fat I could, then folding it up( no salt) and putting it in my deep freezer on max to freeze it solid until I can get it to him.

Now I've had a couple people message me worried that I've ruined the pelt saying I should have salted it prior to freezing, but my taxidermist said not to salt as the salt will prevent a large hide like this from completely freezing leading to spoilage but numerous people feel as if I made a big mistake skipping the salt...

Either way this bear was to feed my family so it's a success but if obviously like to preserve this beautiful hide and memory of the hunt if I can !

whitespringer
05-06-2018, 07:58 AM
Thank you everyone !

Does anyone have experience freezing a pelt this size prior to taking it to the taxidermist ? The taxidermist I spoke to recommended clearing off what fat I could, then folding it up( no salt) and putting it in my deep freezer on max to freeze it solid until I can get it to him.

Now I've had a couple people message me worried that I've ruined the pelt saying I should have salted it prior to freezing, but my taxidermist said not to salt as the salt will prevent a large hide like this from completely freezing leading to spoilage but numerous people feel as if I made a big mistake skipping the salt...

Either way this bear was to feed my family so it's a success but if obviously like to preserve this beautiful hide and memory of the hunt if I can !

Beauty bear! Got me motivated to get out there! I was always under the impression that it was either or, not both. There are a number of threads on here that discuss this topic.
congrats

Wild one
05-06-2018, 08:09 AM
Thank you everyone !

Does anyone have experience freezing a pelt this size prior to taking it to the taxidermist ? The taxidermist I spoke to recommended clearing off what fat I could, then folding it up( no salt) and putting it in my deep freezer on max to freeze it solid until I can get it to him.

Now I've had a couple people message me worried that I've ruined the pelt saying I should have salted it prior to freezing, but my taxidermist said not to salt as the salt will prevent a large hide like this from completely freezing leading to spoilage but numerous people feel as if I made a big mistake skipping the salt...

Either way this bear was to feed my family so it's a success but if obviously like to preserve this beautiful hide and memory of the hunt if I can !

Do not salt if freezing as it will slow the freezing process. If you salt the hide you don’t freeze at all. Salting is to draw moisture out of the hide and starts the curing process. Taxidermist does not freeze salted hides.

Listen to your taxidermist he knows what he is talking about. Those who PMed you are giving horrible advice. Pretty simple trust the man who will profit from your hide being in good shape vs internet know it alls

KodiakHntr
05-06-2018, 08:31 AM
Folks telling you to salt first prior to freezing absolutely do not know what they are talking about.

What does salt do to your driveway at -25* in the winter? If you salt a hide before putting it in the deep freeze you will have spots that don’t freeze and the hair will have the potential to slip.

Your bear is fine.

Good job!

REMINGTON JIM
05-06-2018, 08:54 AM
Congrats ! Good Pumpkin head - Nice Job ! :grin: RJ

PROOF too that a BIG Bear can be KILLED with a WIMPY cartridge and LOAD with a GOOD Shot ! :tongue: RJ

walks with deer
05-06-2018, 10:02 AM
yup nice bear...listen to your taxidermist...

bacon_overlord
05-06-2018, 10:12 AM
Great bear! Congrats!

Rhyno
05-06-2018, 10:58 AM
As mentioned flesh and salt OR freeze, not both. Glad you listened to your taxi.

RyoTHC
05-06-2018, 11:28 AM
Congrats ! Good Pumpkin head - Nice Job ! :grin: RJ

PROOF too that a BIG Bear can be KILLED with a WIMPY cartridge and LOAD with a GOOD Shot ! :tongue: RJ


Haha, yea damn me for being one of those creedmoor hipsters! ;) After seeing how effective it was on this bear I wouldn't hesitate moose or elk either, but I would have to be confident in my shot! Nice stealth edit btw ;)

caddisguy
05-06-2018, 11:29 AM
Excellent write up! Nothing beats a great hunting story, even great pictures of the beast! Great job and thanks for posting up the story!

sawmill
05-06-2018, 12:37 PM
I always just froze my bear hides. even a year later they are fine.NO SALT, unless you are way back in the boons. Nice bear! Good on Ya!

RyoTHC
05-07-2018, 07:48 AM
I always just froze my bear hides. even a year later they are fine.NO SALT, unless you are way back in the boons. Nice bear! Good on Ya!

Thank you sir, means alot! And I'm really glad I made the right decision with the pelt, makes me feel alot more at ease!

I can't wait to see everyone else's success! Heading out Wednesday and this weekend with my hunting partner to find him his first bear so hopefully we will have another story to share afterwards.

Elkhound
05-07-2018, 09:52 AM
Nicely done. I am using the same rifle and bullet combo. What distance was the bear when you hit it (I assumed 150 yrds) and what kind of damage did those ELDX bullets do. I am curious if you dont mind

RackStar
05-07-2018, 10:03 AM
Great bear! Love the colour

Dash
05-07-2018, 12:26 PM
Well done Ryo! That's a gorgeous looking bear!

Seeker
05-07-2018, 02:19 PM
Great looking Bruin! Congrats. Now too bad we couldn't do that with another Bruin.....Marchand!!!

RyoTHC
05-08-2018, 06:01 AM
Great looking Bruin! Congrats. Now too bad we couldn't do that with another Bruin.....Marchand!!!

Don't get ahead of yourself ^^ I'm taking my hunting buddies out Wednesday and this weekend, there is hope for another bruin ^^

wideopenthrottle
05-08-2018, 07:50 AM
nice job....glad it all worked out for you...enjoy the sausages!!!!

Grumpa Joe
05-08-2018, 09:57 AM
Congratulations. Very nice bear. I too am curious about the bullet performance as I am shooting a Brownng XBolt Western Hunter in that caliber. When I shot my bear last year at 30 yards it dropped in it's tracks but when we were butchering it we found that the copper jacket shed all the lead core. Curious as to what it did if you recover it, at that distance.

GOLDEN TOP SNIPER
05-08-2018, 04:28 PM
The force was with You .

RyoTHC
05-10-2018, 09:58 AM
The force was absolutely with me..

And last night we continued the streak, took my hunting partner out to the cutblocks, left home at 315, and by 7 the boar was on the ground, nice 5-5.5 foot male, rich colored meat ! So much good food on the way..

Good luck to anyone else that gets out there! Bears are active, spotted five yesterday before we felt confident we had a boar in the crosshairs!

jaridwarren
05-10-2018, 12:22 PM
Great story, and a nice colour on that guy! Gives me some much-needed motivation.

RyoTHC
05-10-2018, 12:55 PM
Nicely done. I am using the same rifle and bullet combo. What distance was the bear when you hit it (I assumed 150 yrds) and what kind of damage did those ELDX bullets do. I am curious if you dont mind


I am pretty sure I still have the bullet in one of my packs here, so If I find it I will weigh it up and let you guys know what it's weight retention was..
And for damage? lungs were soup, busted two ribs up really good on the way in, it was a nice broadside though, I don't have an exact range as I moved after the shot to get a better view in case a follow up was needed, but when I did range I was right around 160M.

I'll throw up a tease picture of my buddies young boar from yesterday evening... LOTS of moose sign where we took these bears... coincidence? likely not... lets hope more calves have a shot at turning into spike forks ;)

Rob Chipman
05-10-2018, 04:24 PM
"LOTS of moose sign where we took these bears... coincidence? likely not... lets hope more calves have a shot at turning into spike forks"

Funny you say that. I can't remember exactly where I heard it recently, but there's a thought that some bears key in on calving grounds and arrive there before the calving begins because they know it's going to happen. The bios are either going to try or at least thinking about a hunting season to target the bears at that particular time and place. The idea is to not knock off any random predator, but the ones targeting the calves/fawns. Some place in the States I think.

Nice colour on that bear too!

Elkhound
05-10-2018, 04:31 PM
I am pretty sure I still have the bullet in one of my packs here, so If I find it I will weigh it up and let you guys know what it's weight retention was..
And for damage? lungs were soup, busted two ribs up really good on the way in, it was a nice broadside though, I don't have an exact range as I moved after the shot to get a better view in case a follow up was needed, but when I did range I was right around 160M.

I'll throw up a tease picture of my buddies young boar from yesterday evening... LOTS of moose sign where we took these bears... coincidence? likely not... lets hope more calves have a shot at turning into spike forks ;)

That's great thanks

RyoTHC
05-15-2018, 01:43 PM
http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?145024-And-another-one-bites-the-dust-2018-spring-bear

Pictures, and soon to be write up to 2/2 2018 spring boars! maybe these guys were brothers, living merely 4km apart...

RyoTHC
05-15-2018, 01:51 PM
That's great thanks



Lucky for you, I was also able to retrieve the ELDx out of my second boar as well.
Will follow with photo's and comparisons, but for now here you are.

Boar 1, hit at 160M with 143g ELDX, fatal shot, double lung, bullet rested in fat on opposite side
Boar 2, hit at 65M with 143g ELDx, Fatal shot, shoulder/spine/lungs with bone fragments bullet rested in fat on opposite side.
Both loaded with varget, 2 levels down from "hot"

143G on left 160m shot. 143G on right 45m shot.
First shot was all that was needed, but I had to break line of sight with the bear and it was still expiring so A second shot for insurance, I'll be honest.. the first time up close to a bear of this size, I was for sure nervous, and fired the second to make myself more comfortable, but it was a waste.


http://i65.tinypic.com/jzzf9l.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/2rw3mvr.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/2h6c8ox.jpg

Elkhound
05-18-2018, 10:23 AM
Thank you very much for the bullet pictures report. Excellent

Arctic Lake
05-19-2018, 05:44 PM
Nice bear you got there Ryo! Hope the meat is nice and tasty and your rug turns out well !
Arctic Lake