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this weekend i was in the alpine scouting for mulies, approx 7200 ft. some jack--s in all there ultimate wisdom decided to ride their atv all over the alpine. PLEASE KEEP YOUR ATVS OFF THE ALPINE TUNDRA.i will post pics as soon as i download them off my camera.
locdog_99
08-13-2007, 06:24 PM
whats wrong with driving an atv up there it save the walk up haha
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/P8110105.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=5745&size=big&cat=500)http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/P8110100.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=5741&size=big&cat=500)http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/P8110101.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=5739&size=big&cat=500)http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/P8110092.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=5736&size=big&cat=500)
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/P8110092.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=5736&size=big&cat=500)http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/P8110089.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=5734)
Anywhere there is a road into the alpine youll find quads and less game! Thats just the way it is. :sad: Nice pics, no big bucks I take it?
two big ones in this group but could'nt get good picture kilometer or so could see them through binos but camera was not up to the taskhttp://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/P8110107.JPG (http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/showphoto.php?photo=5740)
newhunterette
08-13-2007, 06:49 PM
thats when a good spotting scope attached to ur camera works real nice :)
Nice looking Country ! Thanks for the look8)
Oh and as far as Slobs and thier ATV's chewing up the alpine.....Sucks:-(
Jelvis
08-13-2007, 07:48 PM
Looks like the velvet is pretty well maxed I see pointed points another few weeks and rub a dub dub. Those are excellent photos and that one looks like a manicured golf course. Keep up the scouting.
ianwuzhere
08-13-2007, 07:51 PM
nice pix-
- always sux people chewing up the alpine- or when you think your alone and here comes some people on quads or an off-road vehicle treking to the remote areas you've just spent a long time walking into, grrr happends almost every hunting season to me. just have to go further i guess...
hunter1947
08-14-2007, 07:48 AM
Great pic ,thanks for sharing.
rollingrock
08-14-2007, 09:04 AM
Nice pics!
I think BC should pass the offroad vehicle legislation and throw heavy fines/penalty on those 'offroaders/4x4ers' who aren't willing to stay on logging road.
Derek_Erickson
08-14-2007, 09:06 AM
Something was going on about the four by fouring here in BC not to long ago I remember hearing something about it hefty fines
valleycowboy
08-14-2007, 04:55 PM
In order to protect sensitive alpine habitat, the
Ministry of Environment is considering restricting
motorized vehicles (except snowmobiles)
from travelling off established roads and trails
in the alpine (above 1700m elevation) in
Region 8. Written comments on this proposed
regulation can be sent to Brian Harris at the
Ministry of Environment office in Penticton,
102 Industrial Place, BC,V2A 7C8.
this is posted in this years regs for region 8.
Paulyman
08-14-2007, 08:09 PM
I will admit, when the weather is poor i will do some road hunting myself, never off trai though. I like the idea of a vehicle restriction,i think it will give the critters a chance to multiply and also put more of a challenge to the hunt.
Amphibious
08-15-2007, 01:31 PM
great pics. nothing more satisfying then spending a day climbing a mountain. nothing worse then getting to the top and find your pristine alpine view destroyed by some asshole with a quad. or smilie faces and peace signs built out of rocks.
mapguy
08-16-2007, 07:39 AM
hunters on quads aren't there to damage the terrain
Amphibious
08-16-2007, 09:05 AM
hunters on quads aren't there to damage the terrain
who cares what their motives are. driving a quad over sensitive alpine environs is damaging weather you like it or not. no way around it. tires and alpine don't mix.
where the quads had been looked like a consrtuction site. it wont hurt anyone to get off and walk.stick to the roads in the alpine. if it's not already illegal to drive on alpine tundra it should be
Fisher-Dude
08-16-2007, 01:28 PM
I think as has been posted here before, it's not hunters on quads who wreck the environment, it's joy riders who are looking for a swamp to chew up.
Those who jump at the idea of vehicle restrictions should be careful what they wish for. As with most restrictions you find in the regs, they ban hunters but DO NOT ban joy riders. The region 8 proposal would, in its present form, ban hunters but would still allow mud boggers, dirt bikers, and swamp rippers to do whatever the hell they want. And, they could do it in hunting season too, so don't for one minute think that it will buy you some "peace and quiet" in the alpine. Also, ANYONE with a "commercial venture" would be exempt, so cowboys can use quads to check their cattle, loggers can drive their pickups and feller bunchers, and GUIDES can access the areas as well. Who loses out? The resident hunter who isn't the guy ripping things up in the first place. And the result? Fewer hunters because those who rely on quads to get around due to age and mobility problems quit hunting - at a time when the future of ALL hunting is dependent on increasing the number of hunters in the bush.
Where the heck have people been hunting where they think we need more critters to multiply? Besides a few Class A animals in a few MUs, BC's game populations are the highest they have ever been. Also, there are no statistics to prove that hunting with quads in BC has affected harvest at all. If anyone can't harvest at least a deer with the populations we have, they are doing something seriously wrong IMO.
300WM
08-16-2007, 01:53 PM
I think as has been posted here before, it's not hunters on quads who wreck the environment, it's joy riders who are looking for a swamp to chew up.
Those who jump at the idea of vehicle restrictions should be careful what they wish for. As with most restrictions you find in the regs, they ban hunters but DO NOT ban joy riders. The region 8 proposal would, in its present form, ban hunters but would still allow mud boggers, dirt bikers, and swamp rippers to do whatever the hell they want. And, they could do it in hunting season too, so don't for one minute think that it will buy you some "peace and quiet" in the alpine. Also, ANYONE with a "commercial venture" would be exempt, so cowboys can use quads to check their cattle, loggers can drive their pickups and feller bunchers, and GUIDES can access the areas as well. Who loses out? The resident hunter who isn't the guy ripping things up in the first place. And the result? Fewer hunters because those who rely on quads to get around due to age and mobility problems quit hunting - at a time when the future of ALL hunting is dependent on increasing the number of hunters in the bush.
Where the heck have people been hunting where they think we need more critters to multiply? Besides a few Class A animals in a few MUs, BC's game populations are the highest they have ever been. Also, there are no statistics to prove that hunting with quads in BC has affected harvest at all. If anyone can't harvest at least a deer with the populations we have, they are doing something seriously wrong IMO.
Well said Fisher....I agree 100%...be careful what you wish for.
rollingrock
08-16-2007, 03:23 PM
In order to protect sensitive alpine habitat, the
Ministry of Environment is considering restricting
motorized vehicles (except snowmobiles)
from travelling off established roads and trails
in the alpine (above 1700m elevation) in
Region 8. Written comments on this proposed
regulation can be sent to Brian Harris at the
Ministry of Environment office in Penticton,
102 Industrial Place, BC,V2A 7C8.
this is posted in this years regs for region 8.
I didn't read anything against hunters only here. :roll:
Fisher-Dude
08-16-2007, 03:33 PM
I didn't read anything against hunters only here. :roll:
I've been directly involved with Mr Harris in the discussions on this issue from the club level, and from the BCWF's standpoint. When you have spent as much time in discussions on this as we have trying to ensure access for hunters and anglers, you can roll your eyes at me. :-P
there are plenty of roads in alpines all over b.c., which is fine. use them. theres no need to be off them though. i dont think, or should i say i hope that resident hunters are not the problem. I think some people may be very supprised at how many people dont realize that alpine tundra is very sensitive. ask around?
Jelvis
08-16-2007, 05:07 PM
As long as roads are there to get up to these spots, some people, will drive on them, and then, off them. Roads have to be totally, properly de-activated physically, to keep all drivers out, no other way to stop them, no reasoning, no rules, or wishful thinking, only way, no road, and that's not going to happen in this century. Jelly Roll
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