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IronNoggin
10-21-2017, 11:59 AM
"Canada has a once-in-a-generation opportunity to set things right — to undo the damage done by the previous government while positioning Canada as a world leader in fisheries management by placing science and evidence front and centre.

When the Liberal government was elected in 2015, Prime Minister Trudeau issued a mandate letter to the new Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, which included a directive to base aquatic management decisions on science, facts, and evidence. As fisheries scientists, we applaud this, but promises alone cannot ensure a sustainable future for Canada’s fisheries. To do that, we need to improve the Fisheries Act — the law governing fish and their habitat in this country."

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2017/10/19/its-time-to-deliver-a-new-fisheries-act-scientist-say.html

Cheers,
Nog

keoke
10-21-2017, 12:34 PM
Justin likes to use catch phrases and keep saying them. He will flop on all promises.

Chopper
10-21-2017, 12:40 PM
As someone who relies on our salmon fishery for a portion of my income ... ill be going through this with a fine tooth comb. I have no doubt this will be another FK up

IronNoggin
10-21-2017, 01:27 PM
As someone who relies on our salmon fishery for a portion of my income ... ill be going through this with a fine tooth comb. I have no doubt this will be another FK up

The slamon fishery actually comprises a whole lot of my income these days.
And I concur with your thoughts on this matter.

Perhaps even more concerning is:

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/stopping-chinook-fishing-might-not-be-enough-to-help-hungry-killer-whales-salmon-official

And the very serious possibility the government will ignore the advice completely (well - excluding FN's that is) regarding complete closures.

https://www.canada.ca/en/fisheries-oceans/news/2017/10/indigenous_groupssciencecommunitymarineindustryand governmentpart.html

A tad worried...
Nog - Too Damn Old to Re-Train :shock:

boxhitch
10-21-2017, 01:31 PM
recent meetings about the Wild Salmon Policy have had pathetically low attendance

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/consultation/wsp-pss/index-eng.html

303savage
10-21-2017, 02:34 PM
Does the fisheries have any idea how many fish the natives catch?

Wild one
10-21-2017, 03:31 PM
Does the fisheries have any idea how many fish the natives catch?

I am fairly confident that FN harvest of fish and game is a bigger guess than non FN harvest

I doubt they even have a clue on non FN salmon harvest but bet they have a number they use anyway lol

tubby
10-21-2017, 07:19 PM
As someone who is very close to many FN from mid Fraser to the mouth who net, I can tell you the reported catch is maybe 10% of what they actually take in. Every year they are told by upper members of each band to fake the numbers to get more and longer openings.
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/HTMLs/ChinookKeptCatch.html
These numbers are a joke.... I know 4 guys who probably took that many springs and sold them for 2$ a lb.

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/HTMLs/SockeyeKeptCatch.html
With all the openings they had and that few sockeye killed lol.
As someone who is on the river almost daily...these numbers are a joke.
But perfect for people who like to use fish farms as a non racial scapegoat to the demise of the Fraser
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/HTMLs/CommunalOpeningTimes_Previous.html
There is the openings for the year so far....
Take a moment and actually read the LEGAL netting that happens
Oh and thank you DFO for allowing the FN chum fishery this last week. You have successfully allowed nets to finish off the remaining couple hundred interior steelhead that will now be extinct.

303savage
10-23-2017, 08:20 AM
I was told the First Nations have a cannery around Hope and shipping canned salmon out of the country. Is there any truth to that story?

ryanonthevedder
10-24-2017, 08:42 PM
I was told the First Nations have a cannery around Hope and shipping canned salmon out of the country. Is there any truth to that story?

No cannery at hope. Thats one for snopes

boxhitch
10-25-2017, 06:47 AM
Management meetings are held for public input.
Dates coming up in Smithers, Campbell River, Vanc, PG, Chilliwack and Port Alberni

303savage
10-25-2017, 11:26 AM
. I know 4 guys who probably took that many springs and sold them for 2$ a lb

I know of one band chief and elders were trying to teach the younger natives how to cut and dry fish. She was quite pissed off when the younger natives just wanted to catch and sell the fish. what they didn't sell they would just throw away.

IronNoggin
10-25-2017, 02:59 PM
Management meetings are held for public input.
Dates coming up in Smithers, Campbell River, Vanc, PG, Chilliwack and Port Alberni



November 29, 2017
Yukon
Whitehorse
Yukon Salmon Sub-Committee and Yukon Fish and Wildlife Management Board
Best Western Gold Rush Inn Whitehorse, 411 Main Street
2:00 to 4:00pm


November 29, 2017
Yukon
Whitehorse
Wild Salmon Policy Implementation Plan Public Open House
Best Western Gold Rush Inn Whitehorse, 411 Main Street
6:30 to 8:30pm


November 20, 2017
British Columbia
Port Alberni
Wild Salmon Policy Implementation Plan Public Open House
Tseshaht Administration Building, 5091 Tsuma-as Drive
6:30 to 8:30pm


November 16, 2017
British Columbia
Chilliwack
Wild Salmon Policy Implementation Plan Public Open House
Tzeachten Community Center, 45855 Promontory Road
6:30 to 8:30pm


November 1, 2017
British Columbia
Prince George
Wild Salmon Policy Implementation Plan Public Open House
Coast Inn of the North, 770 Brunswick Street
6:30 to 8:30pm


October 30, 2017
British Columbia
Vancouver
Wild Salmon Policy Implementation Plan Public Open House
Segal Building, SFU, 500 Granville Street
6:30 to 8:30pm




http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/consultation/wsp-pss/index-eng.html

IronNoggin
10-25-2017, 03:04 PM
Campbell River & Smithers are TONIGHT!!!



October 25, 2017
British Columbia
Campbell River
Wild Salmon Policy Implementation Plan Public Open House
Thunderbird Hall, 1420 Wewaikum Road
6:30 to 8:30pm


October 25, 2017
British Columbia
Smithers
Wild Salmon Policy Implementation Plan Public Open House
Prestige Hudson Bay Lodge, 3251 Highway 16
6:30 to 8:30pm

303savage
11-11-2017, 06:49 PM
To do that, we need to improve the Fisheries Act

I guess the fisheries people thought they were doing that by curtailing the licensed sport fishers :-)

303savage
11-18-2017, 08:24 AM
I think the number of seals and sea lions have an impact on salmon numbers. When I was a kid, 60 or so years ago, I very seldom seen a seal or sea lion polled up on the rocks or log booms etc.
Now they are a very common sight.

elknut
11-18-2017, 01:13 PM
303 Savage ...The sealions were almost extinct as there numbers dropped to 30,000...They were put on the Endangered species list and protected..They have since rebounded to numbers approaching 600,000 animals ..Without management of predators they will eat all the salmon and not only affect our fishing but Orchas also..They are like wolves ..Man hasn't managed very well and with other things controlling salmon survival we are on a slippery slope..Have no answers but our countries management of salmon is to allow net pen Atlantic salmon farming..Yup ...We are run by " Geniuses ' "....NOT.!