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twoSevenO
09-12-2017, 10:38 PM
I found the story to be a very interesting read and a great example of how one could always run into a grizz in areas you'd be certain there aren't any.

Just thought others might find it interesting as well.

http://www.pembertonwildlifeassociation.com/news/2012/2/1/winston-the-legendary-bear/

srupp
09-12-2017, 11:02 PM
This provides a most exellent opportunity to examine a photo of a known bear, male, old, heavy..
So notice the ears, small on the side of the head..somewhat upright as the bear is trapped, tranquilizer x 5..and agitated ears are erect and forward..
There is a muscle crease on the forehead..muscles of chewing.
The nose is short big around squared/ angular.not long and slender..
Head is as wide as shoulders.
He obviously has a neck. .girls don't.
Massive front end.
His paws the legs come straight down to the outside of the paws..not wrist, no taper.
Most grizzlies do Not COME with 5 tranquilizer darts in front shoulder..lol those are the real dangerous ones..lol.
See the eyes? No..they are small like a pigs..exellent photo of LARGE MALE, age, weight, sex is known.
3rd photo of bear facing camera,5 darts right shoulder.
Cheers
Srupp

walks with deer
09-13-2017, 04:00 PM
Fantastic

Thanks for sharing i have heard verbal stories but it sure is a great read

walks with deer
09-13-2017, 04:01 PM
Best part is i would have been in some of those locations at that time.

Imagine salmon fishing on the over populated vedder and winston comes meandering buy..lol i love it

guest
09-13-2017, 04:57 PM
Terrific read, thanks for the share. Wow, that's an eye opener.

RiverOtter
09-13-2017, 07:08 PM
Very interesting story for sure.

Anyone else have serious questions about discharging a 30-30 cartridge in s 308 chamber?
Is it even possible?

walks with deer
09-13-2017, 08:33 PM
Funny you say that i was going to google it...not to mention most rancher i know would not have to preload a gun.

campking
09-13-2017, 09:56 PM
Great Great read thanks for sharing it!!

Treed
09-13-2017, 10:33 PM
This quote "The landscape is enriched for me just by the knowledge of its wholeness if not by firsthand experience with every species" captures why the prescence of these animals, and all the other creatures big and small, make the bush the place I live to be. God forbid it ever becomes as empty and soulless as the forests of Europe.

The Hermit
09-13-2017, 11:27 PM
Good read - thanks

mpotzold
09-14-2017, 12:55 AM
Great read

Here’s another about the elusive & legendary grizzly called NERO

by Safarichris
One of the most talked about Grizzly was a bear that roamed the Gang Ranch in the 1950's he was called by all locals as "Nero" I hunted the bear for eight straight years. His range was from Empire Valley to the Relays and then on over to Big Creek. It was quite a large territory and he could be one day in a valley and the next day ten miles away in another. He was as black as the ace of spades. And had a hind print of 16 inches. The bear was as large as any Gang Ranch Angus bull. His weight was estimated at twelve to thirteen hundred pounds. Only two people ever saw this bear. The year was 1964, May 22 on a spring hunt. The snow in many parts of the valley was still a foot deep. My hunter and I hunted him every morning and evening and laid up during the day. At one o'clock in mid afternoon, broad daylight, he walked across the entire width of the valley and all we had was two small spin casting rods in our hands. (he never exposed himself during the day) That was the only visual sighting of the bear. Some body killed a huge grizzly on the other side of Big Creek a couple of years later. (Well over 1200 lbs) But it was not Nero. The down bear had a slightly different color. Nero is mentioned in several Cariboo books. Nero died of old age. I have taken three bears over 1000 Lbs, and Nero towered over them both in height and girth. he was truly the "Grand daddy" of G.bears.

Also

The Fire Still Burns by Chilco Choate
Story of the legendary Nero(20 years before Winston) , the biggest grizzly of the Chilcotin starts Pg.9

https://books.google.ca/books?id=XrV2bl-X-2oC&pg=PA12&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

We had the privilege of meeting Chilco Choate at Gaspard Lake a few years back.
Chilco no doubt is a hunting legend & a great story teller.

J_06
09-14-2017, 01:18 AM
Very interesting story for sure.

Anyone else have serious questions about discharging a 30-30 cartridge in s 308 chamber?
Is it even possible?No, 30-30s rim is .506. .308 is .472. A 30-30 wouldn't fit a 308 bolt face. Not to mention the case rupturing ho