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DeerSeer
08-31-2017, 05:33 PM
Check out this article in the NY Times and let me know what you think.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/science/moose-wolves-caribou.amp.html

I'm not buying it but I'd like to hear from two groups of people on this. Firstly, anyone here in BC have a moose population 16:1 better than white tail? And the second could any southern native let me know if your ancestors didn't know what a moose was. I wrote an email to the PhD from the University of Alberta that is quoted in the article and expressed my doubts about the accuracy of his information. Here is his reply:

Southern BC First Nations bands had no historic word for moose. The northeast BC and Alberta Bands all do of course (ie boreal forest bands).*
If you've ever been north of Revelstoke you'd know that moose far outnumber WT deer. Every hunter knows that.
Robert Serrouya.

He responds quickly to emails so feel free to direct questions regarding this matter to him. I also wrote to NY Times but have not received a response. Am I the dumbass here? Feel free to answer that honestly.

BowRunner
08-31-2017, 05:42 PM
Interesting hypothesis. I wonder if the hypothesis is tested n the study or if the NY Times article is capturing the discussion and next steps portion of the research.

DeerSeer
08-31-2017, 05:59 PM
Somebody told me the gov't of Ontario practices this but he didn't say if it worked or not

Wild one
08-31-2017, 06:14 PM
Somebody told me the gov't of Ontario practices this but he didn't say if it worked or not

BC has as well results fail

alcesgigantes
09-01-2017, 12:14 PM
You can find the research article here: https://peerj.com/preprints/3108.pdf

BowRunner
09-01-2017, 05:29 PM
Good to have that link. It looks like the hypothesis was indeed the subject of the study and not suggestions for future research. Interesting.

Ltbullken
09-02-2017, 10:12 AM
This is the practice, as has been relayed to me, in some areas in the province now. It kind of makes sense. Though the simpler solution is just deal with the wolf. Whatever... moose is good eating.

Wild one
09-02-2017, 10:39 AM
Problem is wolves don't rely on a specialist diet but instead have variety in their prey species. They have the ability to adapt to food sources beyond moose and thrive in many areas with low numbers to no moose. The number of hungry wolves does not change and if moose are scarce they dine on other available prey and caribou is on the list

wolves only move on when overall prey availability is low. Basically you are crashing overall ungulate populations to do this. This only temporary ally displaces wolves to another area and will return to original area once prey numbers improve

Another BS way to avoid predator control