Cariboo slowly opening the door

[BCBear]

read that the atv ban is still in place but the back country is going to be open for use :D

[srupp]

Hmmm it's relatively cool, little smoke and maybe some rain..brisk winds..looking good..
Steven

[Salty]

I heard they're lifting the campfire bans in PG and the Peace regions today. That seems like a pretty foreign concept from where I sit its still dry as all get out around here. Forecast says maybe some sprinkles tonight then back to a week of sun.

[srupp]

Backcountry is now open.offroad vehicle restriction still in place.
Steven

[markomoose]

I heard they're lifting the campfire bans in PG and the Peace regions today. That seems like a pretty foreign concept from where I sit its still dry as all get out around here. Forecast says maybe some sprinkles tonight then back to a week of sun.Yes was smattered all over the news today Salty.Kinda blows my mind?Dig down a inch or so under a big Spruce/Fir and its pretty dry?

[gcreek]

Yes was smattered all over the news today Salty.Kinda blows my mind?Dig down a inch or so under a big Spruce/Fir and its pretty dry?

Here too. Kleena Kleene fire has road blocks and gestapo everywhere. Interesting that they are opening up. Maybe Govt. wants someone's campfire to burn what's left.

[Cyrus]

Horrible decision...looks hot for weekend and long wknd idiots next week. Should of just left it until Sept 5th. All about the $...

[northernguy]

Way wetter out at Kenny Dam than I would have guessed. My runners soaked through in the moss while I was "recycling" a coffee. Might be localized though.

The rules are for those who are intellectually challenged. Used to be a time when it was stupid to drive too fast...now it's illegal.

[Drillbit]

Finally OK to swim without creating sparks

[CaribooBC]

Way wetter out at Kenny Dam than I would have guessed. My runners soaked through in the moss while I was "recycling" a coffee. Might be localized though.

The rules are for those who are intellectually challenged. Used to be a time when it was stupid to drive too fast...now it's illegal.
If you soaked your sneakers while "recycling" a coffee.......you may want to see an urologist.

[gcreek]

If you soaked your sneakers while "recycling" a coffee.......you may want to see an urologist.


LOL horizontally challenged?

[northernguy]

:-) Na...i was just too lazy to unroll the first third of the hose reel to get the job done right :D!

[Ltbullken]

Way wetter out at Kenny Dam than I would have guessed. My runners soaked through in the moss while I was "recycling" a coffee.

Sounds like an aiming issue to me...

[JIL_24/7]

I thought I had read that the ORV restriction was in place until September 5 unless extended or shortened by the forestry service. Did I see that wrong because now I can't find any reference to that. We have a moose draw in 5-02B and I got a side by side this year for hunting. The irony is not lost on me. More concerned about the habitat than the hunt, but that being said with 3 kids we really rely on wild game. Hopefully we can still do our scouting trip September 10-12 and then our hunt September 23-30 with the side by side. Come on rain!

[vanislerev]

ORV ban still in place and essentially all bc rec sites still closed

[Bugle M In]

Sounds like an aiming issue to me...

Viagra may help?

[Sellis75]

I thought I had read that the ORV restriction was in place until September 5 unless extended or shortened by the forestry service. Did I see that wrong because now I can't find any reference to that. We have a moose draw in 5-02B and I got a side by side this year for hunting. The irony is not lost on me. More concerned about the habitat than the hunt, but that being said with 3 kids we really rely on wild game. Hopefully we can still do our scouting trip September 10-12 and then our hunt September 23-30 with the side by side. Come on rain!

Think you're going to be out of luck, heard Region 5 full hunting ban coming down the pipes to be announced possibly by end of day tomorrow.

[Bugle M In]

Think you're going to be out of luck, heard Region 5 full hunting ban coming down the pipes to be announced possibly by end of day tomorrow.

:shock:.........................

[srupp]

Drove from Williams lake out past Moorehead towards Likely..was dry but no smoke..zero..clear until it starting pouring rain big time.Downside was considerable lightening sstrikes close by...back in through wildwood. ..looks like damage has been done?
Didn't get out far enough to check Quesnel Lake. .
From reports west of the Fraser is raging..dangerous out of control in many places...
Pretty certain that beef will be provided to certain groups by multi level government agencies. ..and no way in hell will these certain groups stop their hunting this year. .pipe dreams by Chief Joe..hmm ...

Very sad indeed.
Please be safe out there to everyone, especially HBC members fighting for homes, property, livelihood, way of life..admire your courage overwhelmed by your battle.
Steven

[JIL_24/7]

Think you're going to be out of luck, heard Region 5 full hunting ban coming down the pipes to be announced possibly by end of day tomorrow.
Where is this information coming from? People I have spoken to even in the Cariboo haven't heard this. There is of course Joe Alphonse's statement, but that is not a government statement.

[srupp]

There are lots of areas West of Fraser river unsafe for hunting.period.
We are still waiting for word from on high..lol
Steven

[JIL_24/7]

There are lots of areas West of Fraser river unsafe for hunting.period.
We are still waiting for word from on high..lol
Steven
Absolutely trust your observation on this Steven. No doubt there are a number of areas that need to be protected from people and vice versa, however, I am of the opinion that you can draw generous boundaries around those areas and still allow for hunting in region 5 if the population can support it. I don't want a resource drained for my own selfish goals now, but I think that there has to be some real science behind the decision. I hope that happens, but seeing how things have gone with the grizzly hunt it appears we govern by emotion now. That's never good because feeling change almost daily. My first thought is to the safety and lives of those who live in the Cariboo and my prayers are with you all. Come on rain!

[srupp]

I was surprised at how much was intact east of williams lake..and how fast the growth..horshur" was correct.
However the news west of the Fraser is much more ominous. .slow hot flames that burned deep into the soil, destroyed trees not just blackened. .and still raging.
Steven

[Cyrus]

Where is this information coming from? People I have spoken to even in the Cariboo haven't heard this. There is of course Joe Alphonse's statement, but that is not a government statement.

Well the influence this guy likely has with the ndp could be scary...are they gonna shut down their own hunting??? Betcha not...all about being self entitled yet again...

[HighCountryBC]

There are lots of areas West of Fraser river unsafe for hunting.period.
We are still waiting for word from on high..lol
Steven

What makes them more unsafe than any other old burns that folks hunt on a regular basis? Sure there will be trees that come down but that is going to be a constant over many, many years.

[Cyrus]

Guess nazko rez all over getting it shutdown too....this may not be good...

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-first-nation-calls-for-moratorium-on-hunting-in-cariboo-after-wildfires-1.4262190

[srupp]

What makes them more unsafe than any other old burns that folks hunt on a regular basis? Sure there will be trees that come down but that is going to be a constant over many, many years.

Good question..
Lots of the area is still under evacuation order.
Lots of areas are still burning..
Lots of areas given the correct conditions. .high winds could re-ignite" smoldering embers rekinddle" more fires trapping hunters behind fires..
Lots of trees with potential to be toppled by winds..hazards..new burns will take a few high wind situations to cull the weak rotten ones..


Those making the decision are doing the risk reward discussion..
Absolutely dont believe some hunters wouldn't start camp fires..additional risks..

It's still burning and 45 days of fire season..can't we wait till the fires are out?
Cheers
Steven

[gcreek]

Where is this information coming from? People I have spoken to even in the Cariboo haven't heard this. There is of course Joe Alphonse's statement, but that is not a government statement.

I haven't got many answers to your questions but think on this for a bit. The Plateau Fire is 135 km from Chezacut north to south. West to east it is Chezacut area to not far from the Fraser. That is one fire. The Hanceville blaze is nearly as big and likely not 30 km separating the two.. Add in Kleena Kleene and a few more and how much of the Chilcotin is left to hunt in?

No fire immediately in our area but the last moose I or my crew saw was back in June. You guys all want to fight over it?

[Cyrus]

So shutdown all of reg 5 because of it??? Lots of areas in 5 are not on fire.

[Salty]

I'm pretty sure the wild fire regs are going to take care of this and not hunting regs. There's going to be go and no go zones until these fires are out and the massive ones in the Chilcotin are likely going to be burning till the snow flies. Maybe parts of the area will be safe before then and become go zones. Maybe not.

Personally if I had previous plans to hunt west of the Fraser this year in region 5 I'd cancel. We cancelled a fishing and boating trip earlier this month Arrow lakes way not that we had to, but a person would need to get they're head read if they went imo. If one sparks up it can run a hell of a long ways right now plus, I'm not in to being part of the problem in the bush right now. (People there that don't need to be there).

[gcreek]

So shutdown all of reg 5 because of it??? Lots of areas in 5 are not on fire.

I know not the extent east of the Fraser but a big chunk east of WL has been burnt.
Hanceville Fire is as far south as the Gang and Big Creek.

The Fire Center making noise this morning that both big fires are close to joining. Any bets they let them and maybe can then have bragging rights for the Book of Records?

[Drillbit]

I know not the extent east of the Fraser but a big chunk east of WL has been burnt.
Hanceville Fire is as far south as the Gang and Big Creek.

The Fire Center making noise this morning that both big fires are close to joining. Any bets they let them and maybe can then have bragging rights for the Book of Records?

I'd bet you're going to be right.

Then they can really justify the money wasted.

[Bugle M In]

And to think not too long ago, we as hunters were wondering how we could come up with some money for
"prescribed burns".....
Won't be long before the same big fire happens in the EK either, with all that pine beetle kill there as well.
Government may want to take a look into that.....or not.

[chilcotin hillbilly]

Yesterday, Kleena Kleene and Colwell were rank 4 and 5 with the wind conditions and jumped the guard in several spots again.

I would be shocked if they don't shut the back country down again in region 5 as there is no rain in the forecast around here for at least another week.

[Cyrus]

Yesterday, Kleena Kleene and Colwell were rank 4 and 5 with the wind conditions and jumped the guard in several spots again.

I would be shocked if they don't shut the back country down again in region 5 as there is no rain in the forecast around here for at least another week.

Nope they want that long weekend money...probably be more fires by end of next week

[srupp]

Wow..tough crowd..i just prefer to say thank you! Firefighters, police,....
Just arrived in from driving Hwy 20 towards Alexis creek..fires burning at numerous places on both sides of the hwy. Some within 300 yards of homes near hwy. Counted 20 separate fires from farewell canyon to Dantes inferno.

Cheers
Srupp

[Cyrus]

Wow..tough crowd..i just prefer to say thank you! Firefighters, police,....
Just arrived in from driving Hwy 20 towards Alexis creek..fires burning at numerous places on both sides of the hwy. Some within 300 yards of homes near hwy. Counted 20 separate fires from farewell canyon to Dantes inferno.

Cheers
Srupp

I'm the same but our government opening up the backcountry with what's going on for a few bucks is idiotic.

[srupp]

Hmmm more smoke in the Pond tonight..not exceptional but both smokey and smells like burnt wood..light ash again..

This afternoon a pretty decent 4x4 buck showed up on our street at 3 pm. .walked past me to neighbors crabapple tree..Susan came out and asked what a big buck was doing out during the daylight...i told her he was part of Bucks for BC..and wanted us to sign his petition to stop the hunting season..lol
I will try and get a photo..maybe only thing I get to shoot this year.
I screwed up by not taking advantage of the open road policy to harvest a couple rabbits..sheeeeesh...
Steven

[BCBear]

Hunting in B.C.

Wildfire Notice: Due to severe wildfire activity, please be advised that vehicle and access restrictions are in place in portions of the province to prevent human-caused wildfires and protect human safety. While planning your angling, hunting, or trapping expedition please visit fire bans and restrictions (http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/wildfire-status/fire-bans-and-restrictions) for the most up to date information.
Note that wildfire activity in parts of the Caribou and Thompson regions is particularly intense, with large portions of these areas still burning. If your hunt is planned for any of the following Management Units please ensure you first familiarize yourself with the forest use restrictions in place in those areas:


Cariboo: MUs 5-3, 5-4, 5-6, 5-11, 5-12, 5-13 and 5-14.
Thompson: MUs 3-17, 3-18, 3-29 and 3-30

Hunters are reminded that these restrictions are in place to ensure their safety and the safety of firefighters on the ground.

[leannejason]

Also:
Basically, Regions 3,4,5 & 8 are closed for O.R.V. use. (quads, side by sides, dirt bikes etc.)

[ROY-alty33]

Last edited by leannejason; Today at 04:17 AM.
Dedicated HBCer there folk
Go to bed TEX

[leannejason]

:grin:
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[timberhunter]

The way the fires are ripping through south up to highway 24. You may as well save your gas money and stay home until it snows.
Evac orders just issued for most of the areas south of highway 24 today. Only a matter of time before 24 is shut down now. South Canim also tacticaly evacked last night and today.

[srupp]

Hmmm from Ashcroft..now challenging highway 24..long long route..
Let it snow....
Highway 20 west is same thing..
Steven

[horshur]

The way the fires are ripping through south up to highway 24. You may as well save your gas money and stay home until it snows.
Evac orders just issued for most of the areas south of highway 24 today. Only a matter of time before 24 is shut down now. South Canim also tacticaly evacked last night and today.
24 is closed from 97 to horse lake Rd..evac order for fawn lake right now.horse lake on notice.

[RDM]

People who got an LEH draw in the affected areas should get the draw next year if they bypass hunting in the area this year.This would prevent the high pressure in the tiny area left unaffected in some of the zones. ( i don`t know how this would be patrolled,crazy thought) Yes my son and I both have multiple draws in a major affected area. We will not be hunting this year there.
All the best to all the families affected by this devastating wildfire season.

[Salty]

People who got an LEH draw in the affected areas should get the draw next year if they bypass hunting in the area this year.This would prevent the high pressure in the tiny area left unaffected in some of the zones. ( i don`t know how this would be patrolled,crazy thought) Yes my son and I both have multiple draws in a major affected area. We will not be hunting this year there.
All the best to all the families affected by this devastating wildfire season.

Only issue there is what if next fire season is as bad or worse? Which the way things are looking isn't at all far fetched, we were blessed with a real good snow pack and a rainy spring this year if the spring was dry too... yikes.

[timberhunter]

A lot of the areas that have burnt were prime wintering areas for deer and moose. Once they see the impact this has on our animal populations here. I would expect severe reductions in hunting opportunity in region 5 for years to come.

[JIL_24/7]

Hello All,
Has anyone heard any chatter on the ORV restrictions? I am trying to hope against hope as I am attempting to plan for our September 10-30 moose draw in 5-02B which is one of the rare areas which hasn't been hit hard by fire. Not sure if getting to the cabin is even legal at this point,though. Difficult to know the best course of action. Hoping it begins to rain for consecutive days up there and that there is no more loss of property. Hate to not attempt a hunt when you are drawn so rarely, but want to do what is best for everyone not just me. That being said, we were originally planning a scouting trip September 10-12 which I have scrapped and now trying to decide if we should keep planning for September 23-30. Thoughts? Insider information? Do you think the ORV restrictions will be lifted before the end of September?

[Cyrus]

I suspect as long as weather stays like this there will still be a ban. Not cooling down at night minimal rain with just wind and thunderstorms. Summer will not end....

[srupp]

Have heard prospective date is Oct 2.
Supposed to rain today...3rd time in 4 months.
Steven

[Bullseye Bob]

Well here is a question my hunt starts oct 1 would i still be breaking the orv restrictions if i brought my quads incase it opens while we r up there.we wouldnt use them unless it was to open.

[srupp]

Hmmm am bringing mine, locked under canopy..not in use till its legal to use..
Srupp

[rimfire]

Well here is a question my hunt starts oct 1 would i still be breaking the orv restrictions if i brought my quads incase it opens while we r up there.we wouldnt use them unless it was to open.

The closure says nothing about transporting ORV's, just using them. The peace officer who gives you that ticket would get laughed out of court...

[tigrr]

Last I read the cariboo ban is in place till Oct 31. $767 fine if your caught using one on crown land. RCMP said yesterday the ticket will be given on any gravel road as well. It will be an interesting hunt this year. RCMP up here from Surrey and Cloverdale.
The BC forest service is the people imposing The ban.