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BuckNaked
08-20-2017, 08:45 AM
Been working this spot for a couple of seasons now, and was surprised to see a Kermode pop up in this area.

http://imgur.com/gallery/lawKS

Links to past years.

http://imgur.com/a/PMmv1
http://imgur.com/a/yLv7Q
http://imgur.com/a/kYEZs
http://imgur.com/a/U1AA8

Cougar strolling by cam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFnmY-HI0EA&feature=youtu.be

campking
08-20-2017, 08:48 AM
Not sure what constitutes a Kermode bear, are there bears that are the colour in your photo that are not Kermode bears?

BuckNaked
08-20-2017, 08:51 AM
Yes, polar bears.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermode_bear

campking
08-20-2017, 08:58 AM
Thanks for the info, I also thought they were a coastal bear and like you surprised to see them so far inland. I would presume they will breed with non Kermode black bears, it will be interesting to see what pops up in your camera in the next few years.

bighornbob
08-20-2017, 09:13 AM
That's just a really blond black bear. Not a kermode. You can see the darker colour on its feet. Kermodes are only found on the north coast.

bhb

S.W.A.T.
08-20-2017, 09:18 AM
That's just a really blond black bear. Not a kermode. You can see the darker colour on its feet. Kermodes are only found on the north coast.

bhb

That's not true.

Have personally seen 3 in my life in the areas around terrace, Bella cool and just south port hardy.

Wild one
08-20-2017, 09:21 AM
That's not true.

Have personally seen 3 in my life in the areas around terrace, Bella cool and just south port hardy.

Port Hardy? Never heard of them on the island

S.W.A.T.
08-20-2017, 09:23 AM
That's where it was, multiple sightings on the islands all the way up the inside passage as well.

Pioneerman
08-20-2017, 09:24 AM
That's not true.

Have personally seen 3 in my life in the areas around terrace, Bella cool and just south port hardy.

Well Bella Coolla is north coast. Are you saying you have seen them on Vancouver island also ?

S.W.A.T.
08-20-2017, 09:32 AM
Well Bella Coolla is north coast. Are you saying you have seen them on Vancouver island also ?

Yes south of port hardy. If Bella coola is in the bottom half of the province where does the the north coast start? Being from the north definitely don't consider it North coast but never given much thought to where the "line" would be.

BuckNaked
08-20-2017, 09:37 AM
https://archive.news.gov.bc.ca/releases/news_releases_2005-2009/2006AL0002-000066-Attachment3.htm

snip:· The greatest concentration of Spirit Bears are found on the Central Coast and North Coast of British Columbia, Canada, but have been documented in northeast British Columbia and as far east in North America as Minnesota.

Seems they can be found just about anywhere, with a concentration on the Central/North Coast of Western Canada.

S.W.A.T.
08-20-2017, 09:40 AM
Been told we don't have flying squirrel or bobcat around here for years but many people who frequent the bush and sub alpine including myself have seen both for years. Just goes to show how animals can move and adapt

Wild one
08-20-2017, 09:50 AM
That's where it was, multiple sightings on the islands all the way up the inside passage as well.

Crazy not doubting just new to me

seen enough animals outside known areas not to say never

theoutdoorsman
08-20-2017, 09:56 AM
Lots of people would assume an albino black bear would be a kermode, but they are not one in the same.

monasheemountainman
08-20-2017, 10:04 AM
Ya I'm pretty sure that's a colour phase black bear

walks with deer
08-20-2017, 12:20 PM
Looks like a legal shooter to me..

walks with deer
08-20-2017, 12:20 PM
See one like that in kamloops a month ago

Skull Hunter
08-20-2017, 12:22 PM
Ya I'm pretty sure that's a colour phase black bear

Thats exactly what a "kermode" or "Spirit Bear" is.

Stone Sheep Steve
08-20-2017, 12:31 PM
Looks more like a blonde to me. Would help to see the face.

Stone Sheep Steve
08-20-2017, 12:38 PM
What do you think this bear looks like from behind??
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18582256_462570314079522_7649303325503875071_n.jpg ?oh=ac2b5f163c7a75520cb075714229a050&oe=5A196ECD

monasheemountainman
08-20-2017, 01:00 PM
Looks more like a blonde to me. Would help to see the face.
x2 i dont think its a "spirit bear" but hey what the hell do I know

Steeleco
08-20-2017, 01:05 PM
Spirit bear 500km inland. NOT. I'd cut my tag in the the daylight!

campking
08-20-2017, 01:22 PM
Interesting I just looked at hundreds of photos of Kermode bears and very hard to find one with the brown legs and head areas like this one and the legs in the original post. Wonder what would happen if person harvested one fully believing it was a colour phase that was not in their minds a Kermode bear?
What do you think this bear looks like from behind??
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18582256_462570314079522_7649303325503875071_n.jpg ?oh=ac2b5f163c7a75520cb075714229a050&oe=5A196ECD

landphil
08-20-2017, 01:34 PM
Interesting I just looked at hundreds of photos of Kermode bears and very hard to find one with the brown legs and head areas like this one and the legs in the original post. Wonder what would happen if person harvested one fully believing it was a colour phase that was not in their minds a Kermode bear?

I bet it would taste just like a brown phase, cinnamon phase, or black phase black bear. :D

campking
08-20-2017, 01:35 PM
LOL Yup !!
I bet it would taste just like a brown phase, cinnamon phase, or black phase black bear. :D

Harvest the Land
08-20-2017, 02:10 PM
While working north of Terrace and the Hazeltons in 1999 I saw two Kermodes about a month apart in 2 different inland locations. One was north east of Nass Camp closer to the Cranberry, and the other was north of Meziadin Junction. So they're definitely found inland and not just on the cost.

Cool looking bear!

1/2 slam
08-20-2017, 02:22 PM
Thats exactly what a "kermode" or "Spirit Bear" is.

No such thing. It's just a name the huggers hung on it.

303savage
08-20-2017, 02:23 PM
Mammals and birds read range maps in the wildlife books so they are quite often seen where the aren't suppose to be.

Wild one
08-20-2017, 03:04 PM
What do you think this bear looks like from behind??
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18582256_462570314079522_7649303325503875071_n.jpg ?oh=ac2b5f163c7a75520cb075714229a050&oe=5A196ECD

must not say it I will be banned lmao

landphil
08-20-2017, 03:23 PM
What do you think this bear looks like from behind??



Too much like the old "Does this _____ make my butt look big?" question if you ask me. LOL

monasheemountainman
08-20-2017, 04:10 PM
No such thing. It's just a name the huggers hung on it.

Thank you! someone gets it! its a friggen pigment issue a genetic defect and its like oooo la la its a spirit bear bla bla

ACE
08-20-2017, 04:20 PM
North Coast Timber Supply Area = Great Bear Rainforest
Kermode Black bear = Spirit Bear
Strait of Georgia = Salish Sea

More changes on the way ....

Stone Sheep Steve
08-20-2017, 05:28 PM
No such thing. It's just a name the huggers hung on it.


Just like the GBR

1/2 slam
08-20-2017, 06:10 PM
Just like the GBR


Yep....doesn't exist

Ride Red
08-20-2017, 06:32 PM
The Kermode is a sub species of the black bear. Apparently only 1 in 10 have the white colour phase due to the double recessive gene.

j270wsm
08-20-2017, 08:23 PM
Thanks for the info, I also thought they were a coastal bear and like you surprised to see them so far inland. I would presume they will breed with non Kermode black bears, it will be interesting to see what pops up in your camera in the next few years.

Im in elkford, 35min from southern Alberta. 5-6yrs ago I took pics of 2 white bear cubs in my parents back yard. One of them is actually in the Calgary zoo now.

Don't the regs say it's illegal to hunt a " white phase bear " ??

Stone Sheep Steve
08-20-2017, 08:46 PM
Don't the regs say it's illegal to hunt a " white phase bear " ??

Yes it does. But what is white and what is blonde?
Go into a paint shop and ask for white paint.

Where does one draw the line?

SSS

j270wsm
08-20-2017, 09:06 PM
I agree that they are not white bears but not sure if shooting one is worth the fight.

S.W.A.T.
08-20-2017, 09:38 PM
The Kermode is a sub species of the black bear. Apparently only 1 in 10 have the white colour phase due to the double recessive gene.

Just like green eyes

Walking Buffalo
08-21-2017, 12:03 AM
Sad to see more BC hunters stepping into yet another bear trap....

HarryToolips
08-21-2017, 06:22 AM
Awesome......

Livewire322
08-21-2017, 07:56 AM
Been working this spot for a couple of seasons now, and was surprised to see a Kermode pop up in this area.

http://imgur.com/gallery/lawKS

Links to past years.

http://imgur.com/a/PMmv1
http://imgur.com/a/yLv7Q
http://imgur.com/a/kYEZs
http://imgur.com/a/U1AA8

Cougar strolling by cam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFnmY-HI0EA&feature=youtu.be


I see a blond phase black bear in that picture. I wouldn't shoot it until I saw its face but 10:1 it's a blondie!

BuckNaked
08-22-2017, 07:02 PM
I see a blond phase black bear in that picture. I wouldn't shoot it until I saw its face but 10:1 it's a blondie!

I think i'm going to reposition this cam or add another to see if i can get some head shots. Seems the consensus is a blondie c/p. First time i've seen this many bears on this cam, i'm sure i'll get blondie again.

Skull Hunter
08-23-2017, 07:31 AM
No such thing. It's just a name the huggers hung on it.

That's exactly why I had the quotation marks.