Alpine tent any users of this one

[huntfish]

I saw the seek thread, and was wondering if anybody has used the Oware tents, here is the link to there lineup.


http://shop.bivysack.com/Pyramid-and-Alphamid-Tarps_c4.htm


any good bad or otherwise information would be great.

[twoSevenO]

the general consensus here is that floorless tents kind of suck. When the weather gets really bad ... which is when you need a tent most .... the lack of a floor can be a real problem. Rain/wind blowing in, plus water running along the ground will just soak your things. Plus, anything that is not freestanding is a big pain to set up compared to a freestanding tent that takes 5-7 minutes.

[RackStar]

I just don't see the appeal on having a shelter with no floor. Maybe I'm missing something. For all the reasons above. And what about mice. Those things are worse then bears.

["No Choke"Lord Walsingham]

I like floor-less and prefer it. I do not have that specific item but use floor-less shelter setups and prefer that. There is more emphasis on picking an appropriate camp site so this is not the best plan for folks who might not be so bush savvy. For others it's an excellent way to go. With the small shelters that are floor-less in particular, it is usually not that hard to find a dry spot for camping, at least not here in the East Kootz! Pretty dry country out this way. Coast range tends to be wet AF no matter what, it's the nature of the beast... Usually a well placed spot and a hot tent rig will enable dryness to occur no matter how wet it gets out there. At least enough so, to curtail the damp chills and dry ones gear out some.

Anyhow, thanks for bringing Oware to my attention, huntfish. I am now considering their wares (Along with SeekOutside) for a future purchase, cheers!

[BgBlkDg]

I have not used an Oware product, but, have many nights in various floorless shelters, some heated by folding stoves. others not.

My first was an original Chouinard Pyramid, bought spring 1987, lots of use until about 2003 and then gave it to a young guy in 2015, still sound, as we moved and I need(ed) to downsize my guns-gear.I have had a Kifaru Paratipi, Six-man and Eight-man tipis and a couple very light one-person silnylon rigs from the old ID in Calgary.

I had the large Kifaru stove, a Four Dog Ti-large and am seriously considering a Seek Outside Cimarron, with a Lite Outdoors 18" stove.....but, am too poor to afford it at present.

I would choose a good floored tent if I could only have ONE shelter, as a "four season" or "expedition" mountain tent is more versatile, better in severe weather and perhaps less costly than many shelters. I would not own a shelter-tipi without a stove fitted to it and there are heaters for even small tents available.

The main issues with the tipi tents are SNOW load and finding space to erect them given the large footprint is often difficult to impossible in BC's terrain. I know that you can "jury rig" shelter from them in poor conditions, but, this is time-consuming and does not make much of a shelter, stove considered.

WHY, spend $$$$ to have some "jury-rigged" shelter when a GOOD mountain tent will function far better and keep you warm and safe?

In tents, my choice would be, first Hilleberg, no comparison, then MSR and /or Mountain Hardwear and nothing else appeals to me. I have a Hilleberg Saivo, a superb tent and the new light Niak, which is going to the Kootenays, with me tomorrow.

HTH, take your time choosing and best of luck with your choice.

[twoSevenO]

what is the appeal in hilleberg tents? They are extremely expensive, not particularly light, and many of them aren't even free standing requiring numerous guide lines.
They only seem like a good option to me if you are camping in a lot of snow.

Yes, the Saivo is a great tent, but it weighs 10lbs! That's twice the weight of an average high country hunting tent.

[BgBlkDg]

I am really busy packing for a Kootenay trip tomorrow, but, my Niak, is under 4 lbs. very roomy and stronger than most tents. I will comment further when I return next week, hopefully with some trout for my lady.

[Rob]

I use a Tarptent Stratospire 1, it has the option to remove the inner nest thus going floorless if I wanted

[hookedonblacktails]

I use a Tarptent Stratospire 1, it has the option to remove the inner nest thus going floorless if I wanted

How do you like it? I'm looking at either that one or the tarptent Notch.

[wos]

I really like the looks of the 10x10 tipi tent. I have no experience with the exact product but I'm a fan of tarp shelters when packing in. I would rather save the weight and I don't need the security blanket that a tent with a floor provides for some people. The rain and grizzlies will come in if they want to.

[Rob]

How do you like it? I'm looking at either that one or the tarptent Notch.
Im really happy with it. Two large vestibules and plenty of room inside. Initially I thought It could sleep two with the nest out but with the trekking poles it would be a weird fit. I wanted a one person anyways but still wanted room for gear etc..it's just over two lbs I believe and I bought 1 spare pole in case I broke a trekking pole on the trip it was only 5 ounces I think

[srupp]

Hmm would not consider any tent without a floor.
I do have a sildome for over nite from base camp .
All my tents are mountain hardware..tested and proven.
Fir couple reasons I'm not a Hillenbrand fan however I do respect bgblkdg" his opinion and experience.
Cheers
Srupp

[the_longwalker]

Check out sixmoondesigns.com and look at the gatewood cape. I carried it on my PCT thru hike for 600 miles. You can also drape it over you and sit through a downpour and have everything covered. It's pure awesome. If you MUST have a floor, they sell an inner net tent to go with it that has a bathtub floor. It's the only shelter I use in the bush solo.

[Squamch]

Hmm would not consider any tent without a floor.
I do have a sildome for over nite from base camp .
All my tents are mountain hardware..tested and proven.
Fir couple reasons I'm not a Hillenbrand fan however I do respect bgblkdg" his opinion and experience.
Cheers
Srupp

Care to expand on the reasons you're not a hilleberg fan?
I'm going to be buying a tent within the next year or so, experienced opinions are valuable!

[tuner]

^^^Its hard to argue against a Hilleberg, and if you like the floorless option,simply detach the inner tent, this
will significantly decrease weight while expanding usable space and remain completely waterproof.

[SR80]

what is the appeal in hilleberg tents? They are extremely expensive, not particularly light, and many of them aren't even free standing requiring numerous guide lines.
They only seem like a good option to me if you are camping in a lot of snow.

Yes, the Saivo is a great tent, but it weighs 10lbs! That's twice the weight of an average high country hunting tent.

I believe because they are a very well built, and strong tent that can handle extreme weather conditions. Check out some of the wind tests on youtube on their tents and you'll see. Im saving my pennies for one

[kitnayakwa77]

I love my floorless tent. Only use it for alpine hunts and site selection is important....grass, heather, gravel is good. Weighs just over 1 lb and uses trekking poles to set up. Some rocks along outside edges and gear along inside edges and it is pretty much mosquito proof. Have had it up insome pretty snotty weather rain, sleet, wind. It is about size of a loaf of bread and sleeps 2. Black Diamond Beta Light. So no I wouldnt say that most dont use or like floorless.....

[Timberjack]

I've used my MSR hubba hubba with just the frame and fly. Would not hesitate to take it for a quick overnighter or for use as an emergency bivvy if stuck out. They seem massive when not constrained by the inner tent and the free standing aspect of it lends itself well for this purpose. Just need to be careful of wetness draining in with no floor.

Also, should mention that my hubba hubba has been flawless over the years. Very happy with its performance and value.

TJ

[huntfish]

After alot of reviews and research, my oware pyramid tent is on its way, I went with the 11x11 at 4 pounds with centre pole 2.5 pounds without centre pole, it made sense for this trip with 4 guys going, we also have the tigoat 7.5 so lots of room for all.

[huntfish]

Well after lots of wind and rain, at 6000 ft, the Oware tent held strong, best 300 us spent for me

["No Choke"Lord Walsingham]

Thanks for the update, huntfish!

Glad it's been serving you well.