TO ALL HUNTERS LIVING IN Reg. 2

[guest]

If you value the future of wildlife, if you value conservation, if you value you and your families future in hunting......
Get out and attend the Important Town Hall Meeting April 26 /17 at the Langley Civic Facility, Fraser River Theater, 20338-65 ave Langley, BC
7:00PM....... Representatives from BCWF Resident Priority Program.
Wildlife, Conservation and your hunting future depend on You!
Let's help get our Wildlife numbers back to what they once were.... And MORE!

See you there!
CT

[WesHarm]

Sounds good i will try and make it! Is it just an info session?

[Whonnock Boy]

It would be great to see a good turn out in support of wildlife.

[whitlers]

Putting it on the calendar

[Steeleco]

I'll be there, not missing it!

[scotty30-06]

I hate being on night shift!!!....well just for stuff like this

[180grainer]

If you value the future of wildlife, if you value conservation, if you value you and your families future in hunting......
Get out and attend the Important Town Hall Meeting April 26 /17 at the Langley Civic Facility, Fraser River Theater, 20338-65 ave Langley, BC
7:00PM....... Representatives from BCWF Resident Priority Program.
Wildlife, Conservation and your hunting future depend on You!
Let's help get our Wildlife numbers back to what they once were.... And MORE!

See you there!
CT

Let us know what came out of the meeting. And if you see any official from the BCWF there, ask him or her if the government is flipping the bill for our grizzly hunt. I posted on their thread but no one got back to me and I've got the Ombudsman from the CBC requesting that information.

[guest]

Let us know what came out of the meeting. And if you see any official from the BCWF there, ask him or her if the government is flipping the bill for our grizzly hunt. I posted on their thread but no one got back to me and I've got the Ombudsman from the CBC requesting that information.

Why don't you show up and ask yourself .......? Care to share .....?

[180grainer]

Why don't you show up and ask yourself .......? Care to share .....?

Cause I live at the top end of the province not the bottom end.

[guest]

Cause I live at the top end of the province not the bottom end.

show up at the town hall meeting closest to you, and support what's best for the future of fish and wildlife in the province.

[180grainer]

And share what? I've posted on one thread and created another on the BCWF's dedicated thread asking for information concerning not one, not two, but three broadcasts concerning a documentary made by a guy claiming the hunt is subsidized by the tax payer in BC, (among other things). And not a word from the BCWF. This guy was given a platform to spread BS and if the BCWF wasn't on the phone the next minute to these people, (CKNW, Global TV, CBC) then what the hell are they doing? I've been able to figure out that this film maker is a marketing exec with the tourism industry, that he's affiliated with at least a half dozen anti bear hunting groups and that he may have connections with Bryce Casavant's favs the Grizzly Foundation, who's two co-founders are in the tourism and eco tourism industry. And he clearly tells the CBC is just did the documentary because he was interested in the argument!!!! Where's the BCWF in this?

[180grainer]

show up at the town hall meeting closest to you, and support what's best for the future of fish and wildlife in the province.

Yea thanks. I'm sure the BCWF does some good things. But sometimes I feel I'd make better progress putting on porn hub and grabbing my dick.

[guest]

And share what? I've posted on one thread and created another on the BCWF's dedicated thread asking for information concerning not one, not two, but three broadcasts concerning a documentary made by a guy claiming the hunt is subsidized by the tax payer in BC, (among other things). And not a word from the BCWF. This guy was given a platform to spread BS and if the BCWF wasn't on the phone the next minute to these people, (CKNW, Global TV, CBC) then what the hell are they doing? I've been able to figure out that this film maker is a marketing exec with the tourism industry, that he's affiliated with at least a half dozen anti bear hunting groups and that he may have connections with Bryce Casavant's favs the Grizzly Foundation, who's two co-founders are in the tourism and eco tourism industry. And he clearly tells the CBC is just did the documentary because he was interested in the argument!!!! Where's the BCWF in this?


Quit trying to derail support for the future of wildlife in the province, take your negativity elsewhere.

[180grainer]

Quit trying to derail support for the future of wildlife in the province, take your negativity elsewhere.
If your organization fails to stand up to a particular hunting issue in your mind and you identify it, it's not negativity, it's constructive criticism. Anyways, if I'm derailing the future of wildlife......let me stand aside.......

[ChronoShooter]

Lets not derail.

I've put it in my calendar.

[Asco]

What do we achieve by going to this? Is Bcwf there? Who is doing the talking? Who is listening?
last time I went to a gathering in Langley the allocations got stolen.

Id like to advocate for conservation and the bear hunt, what can one actually do??

[guest]

It's all about what WE CAN ALL DO to build more wildlife, a future for wildlife, if your desires are more animals in our province, more true conservation concerns, a brighter future for you and your families outdoor activities, show up and find out what we can ALL DO MORE OF.

[JLsteel]

I'll be there

[Ourea]

Sorry Curly Top but I would like to make a few comments.

- This is the first time that a solid plan has been platformed for the future of wildlife.
- Phase one of the funding model has got the green light from Gov.
- There is a phase two that would bring millions more to the table.
- Something needs to be done to address the critical issues facing wildlife as there is no Gov plan or investment.
- With well needed financial resources in play many of the concerns we all talk about can start to be addressed.

180grainer has taken considerable time to dig into an issue that he is obviously passionate about....and good on him.
With more resources these type of issues can be tackled head on.

Asco asked, "what can one actually do".
The answer is to simply show up in support of the future of wildlife in this province.
If you are comfortable maybe say a few words if afforded the opportunity.
At the very least just put an ass in a seat.

Bottom line is there is a plan.
There is a funding model gaining traction.
We can and will make a difference for the future of wildlife under this umbrella.
Help drive this by simply showing up.
Cheers

[WesHarm]

Well put Ourea, i will be there and will try and drag the wife along!

[Wentrot]

Sorry Curly Top but I would like to make a few comments.

- This is the first time that a solid plan has been platformed for the future of wildlife.
- Phase one of the funding model has got the green light from Gov.
- There is a phase two that would bring millions more to the table.
- Something needs to be done to address the critical issues facing wildlife as there is no Gov plan or investment.
- With well needed financial resources in play many of the concerns we all talk about can start to be addressed.

180grainer has taken considerable time to dig into an issue that he is obviously passionate about....and good on him.
With more resources these type of issues can be tackled head on.

Asco asked, "what can one actually do".
The answer is to simply show up in support of the future of wildlife in this province.
If you are comfortable maybe say a few words if afforded the opportunity.
At the very least just put an ass in a seat.

Bottom line is there is a plan.
There is a funding model gaining traction.
We can and will make a difference for the future of wildlife under this umbrella.
Help drive this by simply showing up.
Cheers


Very well said

[souwester]

Sorry Curly Top but I would like to make a few comments.

- This is the first time that a solid plan has been platformed for the future of wildlife.
- Phase one of the funding model has got the green light from Gov.
- There is a phase two that would bring millions more to the table.
- Something needs to be done to address the critical issues facing wildlife as there is no Gov plan or investment.
- With well needed financial resources in play many of the concerns we all talk about can start to be addressed.

180grainer has taken considerable time to dig into an issue that he is obviously passionate about....and good on him.
With more resources these type of issues can be tackled head on.

Asco asked, "what can one actually do".
The answer is to simply show up in support of the future of wildlife in this province.
If you are comfortable maybe say a few words if afforded the opportunity.
At the very least just put an ass in a seat.

Bottom line is there is a plan.
There is a funding model gaining traction.
We can and will make a difference for the future of wildlife under this umbrella.
Help drive this by simply showing up.
Cheers

Could you please share with me all the stakeholders involved that will need to be a part of deciding how funds are used from government?

[Ourea]

Could you please share with me all the stakeholders involved that will need to be a part of deciding how funds are used from government?

You've answered your own question.
Stakeholders.
Guaranteed once the funding stream begins more than the usual suspects will be lining up.
I am sure there will be new players at the trough.
That is not the immediate focus however.

The big picture is getting this funding model built and working.
Anyone that is already trying to start debating on who gets what....well.... premature.

We need to get behind this and push hard to bring it to fruition.

Nothing I would love to see more than money for wildlife and THEN debating over where it goes.

Sure as shit beats that of complaining over the current state of affairs......with no money and no plan.

[RobTurbo]

As someone who wants the current system to change, I will be showing up! It's my hope it changes for the better but it will remain status quo if no one puts in the effort to go and that's terrible.

[Ourea]

As someone who wants the current system to change, I will be showing up! It's my hope it changes for the better but it will remain status quo if no one puts in the effort to go and that's terrible.

Go get em Rob and the right attitude!
Bring as many like minded people as you can to a town hall.

By supporting this model we can and will make a difference in the future wildlife.

[hoochie]

Sounds like church and they pass the collection basket around.
If support is what is needed, then send an email.
I can assure you, that if I dont show up.. the animals will still be here for a few more decades.

[Whonnock Boy]

Great attitude. Good thing there are people out there that carry your dead weight.


Sounds like church and they pass the collection basket around.
If support is what is needed, then send an email.
I can assure you, that if I dont show up.. the animals will still be here for a few more decades.

[Ourea]

Sounds like church and they pass the collection basket around.
If support is what is needed, then send an email.
I can assure you, that if I dont show up.. the animals will still be here for a few more decades.


Complacency and status quo will change the world.
Great idea and attitude hoochie!!
Incredible and novel train of thought.

[Asco]

Asses in seats it is.
Is the BCWF a stakeholder?
Do they represent hunters and people who use the outdoors?
If it's not them then who speaks for us? I'm tired of BCWF being neutral about things that affect us.

In the mean time butt in seat

[souwester]

You've answered your own question.
Stakeholders.
Guaranteed once the funding stream begins more than the usual suspects will be lining up.
I am sure there will be new players at the trough.
That is not the immediate focus however.

The big picture is getting this funding model built and working.
Anyone that is already trying to start debating on who gets what....well.... premature.

We need to get behind this and push hard to bring it to fruition.

Nothing I would love to see more than money for wildlife and THEN debating over where it goes.

Sure as shit beats that of complaining over the current state of affairs......with no money and no plan.


I agree with what you are saying 100 %
I just want to know when it comes time to making decisions if the bag of money from resident hunters and guide outfitters pocket books will be up in the big engine,driving change and pulling levers or if its gonna be way back on the caboose all empty and depressed wondering what just happened?
seems like knowing who will be involved with decision making might shed light on that.
Hopefully the town hall meetings go well.

[Ourea]

Asses in seats it is.
Is the BCWF a stakeholder?
Do they represent hunters and people who use the outdoors?
If it's not them then who speaks for us? I'm tired of BCWF being neutral about things that affect us.

In the mean time butt in seat

Asco....you are a stakeholder because you care about wildlife!!
It starts by putting an ass in a seat and good on u for showing up
BCWF is a stakeholder as well and their messaging and resources continue to build.
With financial resources wildlife conservationists can and will make a difference.

I am not a spokesperson for BCWF but I am sure as shit helping everyway I can to bring funding to wildlife.

[Ourea]

I agree with what you are saying 100 %
I just want to know when it comes time to making decisions if the bag of money from resident hunters and guide outfitters pocket books will be up in the big engine,driving change and pulling levers or if its gonna be way back on the caboose all empty and depressed wondering what just happened?
seems like knowing who will be involved with decision making might shed light on that.
Hopefully the town hall meetings go well.

Well souwester...... become part of the decision making.
Get involved.
This ship will sail
Cheers

[souwester]

Well souwester...... become part of the decision making.
Get involved.
This ship will sail
Cheers

You crack me up Ourea,good on you for being so positive.
I only just learned about train terminology,pulling levers and so forth,so it might be a stretch to learn about how ships sail for me.
Hopefully wherever your ship is sailing it will end up in a place where the residents of BC decided it was ok to cull some wolves.
cheers and good luck.

[Ourea]

I agree with what you are saying 100 %
I just want to know when it comes time to making decisions if the bag of money from resident hunters and guide outfitters pocket books will be up in the big engine,driving change and pulling levers or if its gonna be way back on the caboose all empty and depressed wondering what just happened?
seems like knowing who will be involved with decision making might shed light on that.
Hopefully the town hall meetings go well.7

Wonder why a third party agency/entity has been proposed to control expenditures for wildlife in this model?
No back room deals .....no special interests picking away at the piggy bank.
Plan is solid

[Ourea]

You crack me up Ourea,good on you for being so positive.
I only just learned about train terminology,pulling levers and so forth,so it might be a stretch to learn about how ships sail for me.
Hopefully wherever your ship is sailing it will end up in a place where the residents of BC decided it was ok to cull some wolves.
cheers and good luck.

It's not "my ship" IT'S OUR SHIP my friend.
Don't wish me luck as I don't believe in it.
Luck has nothing to do with change and success.

I am not here merely as an optimist.
I am here to get shit done and support the process.
Shit is finally happening because of the plan and the growing support.

The bus door is open and more people are getting onboard.
Should I save a seat for you!?
Cheers

[Ride Red]

Sorry Curly Top but I would like to make a few comments.

- This is the first time that a solid plan has been platformed for the future of wildlife.
- Phase one of the funding model has got the green light from Gov.
- There is a phase two that would bring millions more to the table.
- Something needs to be done to address the critical issues facing wildlife as there is no Gov plan or investment.
- With well needed financial resources in play many of the concerns we all talk about can start to be addressed.

180grainer has taken considerable time to dig into an issue that he is obviously passionate about....and good on him.
With more resources these type of issues can be tackled head on.

Asco asked, "what can one actually do".
The answer is to simply show up in support of the future of wildlife in this province.
If you are comfortable maybe say a few words if afforded the opportunity.
At the very least just put an ass in a seat.

Bottom line is there is a plan.
There is a funding model gaining traction.
We can and will make a difference for the future of wildlife under this umbrella.
Help drive this by simply showing up.
Cheers

Good to hear!!! Count us in.

And lot's of notice to boot. Show up or give up, your choice.

[Ourea]

Good to hear!!! Count us in.

And lot's of notice to boot. Show up or give up, your choice.

Good job Ride Red

[Xenomorph]

I hate being on night shift!!!....well just for stuff like this


Grab a double espresso and come. Who's in Burnaby that wants to come. I can fit 7 in mine ...or if we have a bigger group I'm willing to rent a bus to get there. No jokes. Let's be there!

[guest]

Sounds like church and they pass the collection basket around.
If support is what is needed, then send an email.
I can assure you, that if I dont show up.. the animals will still be here for a few more decades.

wow, really?

and here lay the problem ........ A few more decades. If your lucky.

Or you can choose to get on board and help make that much needed change happen. A change that's well over due,

sitting back doing nothing over these past few decades has made less and less, not more and more that we all want.

is doing nothing working so far ? .... Not.

Lets make this happen, everyone!

[hoochie]

Are you collecting money or not?
Going to this meeting will stop urbanization? I must be ignorant, because I am not understanding why, or what you mean that there wont be animals.
How will attending this meeting help the population of game animals?
Sorry, I am so skeptical. It just not clear what the meeting will discuss, or what is expected of people attending.

[Ourea]

Are you collecting money or not?
Going to this meeting will stop urbanization? I must be ignorant, because I am not understanding why, or what you mean that there wont be animals.
How will attending this meeting help the population of game animals?
Sorry, I am so skeptical. It just not clear what the meeting will discuss, or what is expected of people attending.

Ur a tough one hoochie LOL
Love it.
Thanks for your comments and getting involved in the discussion

To answer ur question....these town halls are in support of leveraging Gov and creating public awareness that investing in wildlife is a PRIORITY.
Attending a town hall says you support this agenda and are a supporter of wanting to see Gov make wildlife a priority.
Part of the long play is protecting winter range and critical habitat from urbanization

hoochie, habitat is eroding and wildlife is disappearing with it.
Just show up in support of wildlife ....say something if you are comfortable and afforded the opportunity.

[Dougielightning]

Are you collecting money or not?
Going to this meeting will stop urbanization? I must be ignorant, because I am not understanding why, or what you mean that there wont be animals.
How will attending this meeting help the population of game animals?
Sorry, I am so skeptical. It just not clear what the meeting will discuss, or what is expected of people attending.

No monies were collected. Great informative meeting. ideas on how to drive change in our fish and wildlife management strategies were talked about in some detail. Many outside urbanized areas have exploding wildlife populations while ours is in a steady decline. Yes animals will not be here in numbers for much longer if something isn't done about it. Would recommend going to a meeting.
took my 14 year old daughter who is a avid hunter and we both learned a lot about what's important to helping our fish and wildlife.

[adriaticum]

Who will be at this meeting beside bcwf resident priority?
Will government be there?
Otherwise we are just preaching to the converted

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Who will be at this meeting beside bcwf resident priority?
Will government be there?
Otherwise we are just preaching to the converted


The meeting here last night had many political candidates in the upcoming election. It was great to see.

[labguy]

Are you collecting money or not?
Going to this meeting will stop urbanization? I must be ignorant, because I am not understanding why, or what you mean that there wont be animals.
How will attending this meeting help the population of game animals?
Sorry, I am so skeptical. It just not clear what the meeting will discuss, or what is expected of people attending.

I understand your skepticism. I'm probably the biggest skeptic/cynic out there but by attending last nights meeting in Kelowna I was encouraged.......and believe me that's a difficult task.

Jessie Zeeman is a class act who kept the bitch session to a minimum and put a solid plan foreward that will, with enough support, succeed in putting more animals on the landscape and holding governments to account.

One evening out of your life is not much to get some clarity around this. All your above questions will be answered by attending. Hope you can make it.

[Ourea]

I understand your skepticism. I'm probably the biggest skeptic/cynic out there but by attending last nights meeting in Kelowna I was encouraged.......and believe me that's a difficult task.

Jessie Zeeman is a class act who kept the bitch session to a minimum and put a solid plan foreward that will, with enough support, succeed in putting more animals on the landscape and holding governments to account.

One evening out of your life is not much to get some clarity around this. All your above questions will be answered by attending. Hope you can make it.

Good work labguy

[Stone Sheep Steve]

I understand your skepticism. I'm probably the biggest skeptic/cynic out there but by attending last nights meeting in Kelowna I was encouraged.......and believe me that's a difficult task.

Jessie Zeeman is a class act who kept the bitch session to a minimum and put a solid plan foreward that will, with enough support, succeed in putting more animals on the landscape and holding governments to account.

One evening out of your life is not much to get some clarity around this. All your above questions will be answered by attending. Hope you can make it.



Thats great to hear Labguy!

Just being on the same page makes people part of the solution.

[Grasp]

I am definitely interested in this. Is there a link to where we can get some more info?

[guest]

I am definitely interested in this. Is there a link to where we can get some more info?


PM sent to you

[adriaticum]

I understand your skepticism. I'm probably the biggest skeptic/cynic out there but by attending last nights meeting in Kelowna I was encouraged.......and believe me that's a difficult task.

Jessie Zeeman is a class act who kept the bitch session to a minimum and put a solid plan foreward that will, with enough support, succeed in putting more animals on the landscape and holding governments to account.

One evening out of your life is not much to get some clarity around this. All your above questions will be answered by attending. Hope you can make it.


Are you sure you're skeptic,
Maybe you're an antiskeptic?

[guest]

This Town Hall meeting is gaining momentum ...... Rally the troops folks, contact everyone you know that VALUES wildlife, and how important it is to us BC Residents as hunters and non hunters. Our wildlife populations have been on steady decline for years. It's time to make a difference, let's put change in place. Let's make this Province what it once was, and better, for All Wildlife.

Lets fill that place folks! C ya there !

CT

[Ride Red]

Are you sure you're skeptic,
Maybe you're an antiskeptic?

Which one are you?

[guest]

Bumpidy bump folks ....... Mark the Lower mainland Town Hall on your calendars ....... April 26/17 Langley.

lets turn around the lack of Management of our forests and Wildlife.

CT

[Ride Red]

Keep this thread alive.

[guest]

One week to go for the Reg. 2 meeting. Let's fill ER up everyone.

[guest]

Reminder this Wednesday night every one. Bumpidy bump.

Some me great info about the management of our Wildlife, habitat and the future.

[Ride Red]

Keep this going.

[guest]

Tonight's it's ON ........ 7 o'clock

[Asco]

I'm there. There's a lot of us in the LML. Let's show up.

[Ride Red]

See you in a few

[Steeleco]

Just got home, very informative, sadly too many empty seats even for a venue as small as the Langley Township chambers! Apathy is an ugly bitch that will bite us in the ass if not more involved!

[guest]

Well said Steelco.
The apathy and why bother attitude will bring zero to our grandchildrens memories of appreciating fish, wildlife and all its splendours.
Wow, people need to see the comparisons of ALL our neighbors and how they value the great outdoors.

Great presentation.

CT

[AgSilver]

Wish I could have gone. Too bad the turnout was low.

[Keta1969]

I was at the Naniamo meeting and asked about more funding than just hunting licence fees. There are ideas out there that are worth pursuing, look at funding models south of the border.Resource companies and others who use public land and affect the environment should contribute. I would like to see the monies looked after by a large umbrella organisation(not gov't) that brings in as many parties as possible, this means we will have to let old animosities go and work as one. With secure adequate funding anything is possible. I'm encouraged by Ourea's comments as it sounds like it may be coming.

[Ride Red]

Yes, too many empty seats.

[Mulehahn]

Was actually surprised by the low turnout. Talked to quite a few who said they would be there. None turned up. If 2 hours on a Wednesday evening is too much than what would work?

[Whonnock Boy]

Excellent presentation by Al Martin, with great dialogue and questions following.

As for the turn out. 10,000 BCWF members in the lower mainland. Perfect venue, and 70 people in the audience. .7 percent of our member base. Point.....

We have to do better.

[Asco]

I'm glad I went. Partners bailed. I think the conversation is heading in the right direction; we need to bring the message to everyone ( in media, social media and person to person) because people just don't show up in person for things.

My top takeaways:
BC government has willfully underfunded wildlife since before I was born.
FN rights and resource extraction are proiorities at the expense of wildlife in BC
The BC wildlife model is not broken, because it was never soundly constructed to begin with. As the presentation said, it is a train wreck.


Who was the gentleman sitting at the middle aisle who brought up the problem of BC's apartheid system and the issue of the FN market hunt? I would like to know more.

[boxhitch]

Just got home, very informative, sadly too many empty seats even for a venue as small as the Langley Township chambers! Apathy is an ugly bitch that will bite us in the ass if not more involved!anti-climatic for sure, sorry to hear

and yet back east......

For a second weekend in a row, hundreds of demonstrators took to the streets of Montreal to protest million-dollar pay hikes for Bombardier executives they characterized as “legal theft.”

[JLsteel]

Pretty eye opening yesterday especially from a funding point of view and a lack of public interest even within the hunting community. We definitely need to get the word out the way its being done down south.

If you listen to podcasts, Jesse Zeman is on the rookie hunter podcast and that is also very informative.

[TreeStandMan]

Despite the small turn out I was impressed with the thoughtfulness of the questions and comments from the crowd. Those who took the time to attend have clearly thought deeply about the issues. I think if non hunters could be exposed to this sort dialog within the hunting and fishing community, it would help us gain social support.

Al highlighted social support as one of the three pillars of wildlife management, and there were a lot of insightful comments about the need for us to better explain our concern for wildlife to the public. I wonder if there are those here on HBC that have the skills to put together a more snappy internet-ready presentation that we could share on our personal networks. If we can get the message out there that the province is failing wildlife in a terrifying way, it might going a long way to securing better funding (the second pillar) for science (the third pillar).

As a side note is was good to meet Asco and Steeleco, and be among like minded individuals. I will make the time to attend future BCWF events.

[TreeStandMan]

It was also interesting to note those seeking election in the crowd: two Greens and one NDP. Not a Liberal to be seen.

[Asco]

The greens seemed like they were there to engage in the wildlife aspect. The NDP candidate had the air of a person who has never been east of 264 street. Still, can't fault her for showing up.

[brownmancheng]

Despite the small turn out I was impressed with the thoughtfulness of the questions and comments from the crowd. Those who took the time to attend have clearly thought deeply about the issues. I think if non hunters could be exposed to this sort dialog within the hunting and fishing community, it would help us gain social support.

Al highlighted social support as one of the three pillars of wildlife management, and there were a lot of insightful comments about the need for us to better explain our concern for wildlife to the public. I wonder if there are those here on HBC that have the skills to put together a more snappy internet-ready presentation that we could share on our personal networks. If we can get the message out there that the province is failing wildlife in a terrifying way, it might going a long way to securing better funding (the second pillar) for science (the third pillar).

As a side note is was good to meet Asco and Steeleco, and be among like minded individuals. I will make the time to attend future BCWF events.



my thoughts exactly. we need to do whatever we can to raise awareness whether that is social media, traditional media or by standing on a roof top and yelling!

Although i do not have the technical ability to puta presentation together I do have 2 feet and a heartbeat I am willing to contribute !

[Grumpa Joe]

The greens seemed like they were there to engage in the wildlife aspect. The NDP candidate had the air of a person who has never been east of 264 street. Still, can't fault her for showing up.

The Greens and the NDP are not the friends of those of us who pursue the outdoors the way that hunters and fishers do. The Green candidate wasn't even aware of who pays what types of fees to access the back country. They would happily shut us down for the benefit of "eco" tourism and setting aside far more land as ecological reserves or Provincial or Federal Parks. I hate the Liberals but unfortunately this election is not about who is best fit to run the province but more about who is least worst. JMO

[JLsteel]

The greens seemed like they were there to engage in the wildlife aspect. The NDP candidate had the air of a person who has never been east of 264 street. Still, can't fault her for showing up.


Since only 5% of the population hunt and probably less than 2% of that 5% showed up to these town halls, I can see why there was very little MLAs presence. Their time is much better used on other "more important" issues.

Only possible way to get their attention, we need a bigger base of supporters that rank the wildlife issues above many other issues in BC.

[clutch]

I'm glad I went. Partners bailed. I think the conversation is heading in the right direction; we need to bring the message to everyone ( in media, social media and person to person) because people just don't show up in person for things.

My top takeaways:
BC government has willfully underfunded wildlife since before I was born.
FN rights and resource extraction are proiorities at the expense of wildlife in BC
The BC wildlife model is not broken, because it was never soundly constructed to begin with. As the presentation said, it is a train wreck.


Who was the gentleman sitting at the middle aisle who brought up the problem of BC's apartheid system and the issue of the FN market hunt? I would like to know more.

The gentleman in the middle aisle who brought up the problem of BC's apartheid system works at Cabela's in Abbotsford and used to be involved with the BCWF if you would like to go there and ask him more. I'm not sure of his name I have just talked to him before, knows what he is talking about.

[Ohwildwon]

The Lower Mainland is a commuters hell..

Whoever put the start time @ 7PM is out to lunch...

I wanted to go, by the time I got home from work (6:45), walk the dog, feed the cat, shower etc, not happening...

[guest]

If the general public, and all hunters and fishers that don't give a rats ..SS were to see the real numbers, the true comparisons of BC funding, compared to Washington, Oregon, Alaska, Idaho, Alberta .......

If every one paid attention to the real bottom line, the full story ....... They would be nothing but aw struck, like every individual that was at any of the Town Hall presentations.

Folks, this is for real, your wondering why there are not the moose where they used to be, where have the draws gone, why so few of draws, why seasons changing, why are there not more or larger deer, or more deer period, what's happened to the elk?? Why is our success and opportunity going for a dump?

Are you asking yourself, any of these questions ...... You need to get involved and see what's happening as most sit on there hands and do and say nothing.

You owe it to our future wildlife, our treasured fish, our grand children, our future hunters.

Its time to be heard. This is fact ........ We are presently crashing in all aspects of fish, wildlife and habitat, like a run away train.

EVERYONE! Wake up and get involved.

[markathome]

Hi Guys,

Here's a letter I wrote to Jesse:

Good Morning Jesse,

First – thank you for all the background work you and your colleagues have put into the Town Halls. I attended the Langley meeting last night and although I was somewhat aware of the issues – as a “late-to-life” hunter I certainly didn’t have a full 360 of the crisis at hand.

I’m putting my hand up and letting you know I’m here to help. So please let me know if there is anything I can do to assist the BCWF and the mission beyond writing letters.

My main take-aways from the Town Hall is the BCWF could use assistance in the two areas:


Summary of the message in a social media friendly format(s)
A grassroots activist strategy focused exclusively on the Town Hall message (funding/science/social buy in)

Perhaps create a central umbrella for organizers and supports to gather under (arm of the BCWF?/something else?)
Identification of the issue in publicly consumptive manner
Delivery of the message across all possible platforms
Creation of infographics
Reaching out to like-minded organizations to share social media galvanization and “pushs” (ie thunderclaps)




I have some background in these two areas – but I’m no expert. However, I do work with two professionals who’s business is to more or less build grass root organizations from the ground up. Their typical clients are universities, local governments and complex organizations like the Vancouver Aquarium. I have sent them an email with Coles notes of the Town Hall and have asked for some advice.

One of their projects is http://www.myseatosky.org/ and they are responsible for the Howe Sound Declaration – a good example of grass roots organization with tangible results.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

PS: Great work on the Rookie Hunter Podcast! Those guys are awesome!

Cheers,

[pnbrock]

i was very torn on attending .there is no question i am concerned about the low numbers and habitat loss for our wildlife .however i have a real problem with the spending on this issue to only have it taken away from all user groups by the first nations.

[ajr5406]

Hi Guys,

Here's a letter I wrote to Jesse:

Good Morning Jesse,

First – thank you for all the background work you and your colleagues have put into the Town Halls. I attended the Langley meeting last night and although I was somewhat aware of the issues – as a “late-to-life” hunter I certainly didn’t have a full 360 of the crisis at hand.

I’m putting my hand up and letting you know I’m here to help. So please let me know if there is anything I can do to assist the BCWF and the mission beyond writing letters.

My main take-aways from the Town Hall is the BCWF could use assistance in the two areas:


Summary of the message in a social media friendly format(s)
A grassroots activist strategy focused exclusively on the Town Hall message (funding/science/social buy in)

Perhaps create a central umbrella for organizers and supports to gather under (arm of the BCWF?/something else?)
Identification of the issue in publicly consumptive manner
Delivery of the message across all possible platforms
Creation of infographics
Reaching out to like-minded organizations to share social media galvanization and “pushs” (ie thunderclaps)




I have some background in these two areas – but I’m no expert. However, I do work with two professionals who’s business is to more or less build grass root organizations from the ground up. Their typical clients are universities, local governments and complex organizations like the Vancouver Aquarium. I have sent them an email with Coles notes of the Town Hall and have asked for some advice.

One of their projects is http://www.myseatosky.org/ and they are responsible for the Howe Sound Declaration – a good example of grass roots organization with tangible results.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

PS: Great work on the Rookie Hunter Podcast! Those guys are awesome!

Cheers,


Great letter, and good for you. I agree, having some take-aways that help in follow up conversations would be great. How many times do we find ourselves in situations where a few important facts and some basic statistics could really help illustrate a point.

[Asco]

Good letter Markathome.
I'm not great with technology, but if we have a cohesive message, my wife is wired to 10,000 people across an array of networks.

If if I remember correctly, the gentleman in the back corner from Abbotsford who has hunted and travelled the west extensively over the last couple years said the same thing.

I say we use the wife broadcasting network to feed the message to everybody. The ladies seem to have embraced the technology of networking and social media to a greater degree than old guys. The people with the BCWF etc can feed the pertinent graphics/ presentation to media to back it up.

[markathome]

No slam to BCWF - they're doing the best they can... however that presentation (and the promotion of the town hall's) was straight out of 1996.

I'm going to wait and hear from Jesse and see what he suggests going forward - In the meantime I'm going to start working on an organization framework and I'll share it here when I'm done/hear from Jesse.

I suppose for now if anyone has access to large social media networks let's chime in here and use this space as a common collection point.

Does anyone know who the guy in the back (who said his son was a mountain guide) is? I believe he said his son as 5k of followers.

My colleagues who set up grass roots organizations are getting back to me this weekend with a bullet point "how to" guide. I'll keep you guys updated.

Have good weekend and take a bit of time to write your MLA regarding these issues. I'll put up a template letter this weekend. Here's how to find your MLA. If you have time pick up the phone and let them know you're voting for wildlife this election.


https://www.leg.bc.ca/learn-about-us/members

[boxhitch]

from Markathome
A grassroots activist strategy focused exclusively on the Town Hall message (funding/science/social buy in)


Perhaps create a central umbrella for organizers and supports to gather under (arm of the BCWF?/something else?)

this will help

The BC Wildlife Federation congratulates the Provincial Government for committing to a new wildlife management model today. The Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations announced it will form a new wildlife agency in late fall 2017 backed by $5 million in start up funds. The agency would be supported by $9 to $10 million collected each year from hunting licence revenues.
"The BC Wildlife Federation commends the Province for its commitment to dedicate hunting licence revenues to a stand-alone agency to enhance wildlife management. The BCWF, on behalf of our 50,000 members, is pleased to have our call for greater investment in fish, wildlife and habitat realized through this investment."
A dedicated funding model is a concept the BCWF has been promoting intensively for the past two years. This announcement is a validation of the BCWF’s diligence on this file. We look forward to working collaboratively with partners and stakeholders to address dwindling fish, wildlife and habitat.
The new governance model must set specific measurable objectives to recover and increase habitat sustainability, as well as fish and wildlife populations. Currently there are no set population objectives for fish, wildlife and habitat.How they propagate the info is yet to be seen

[markathome]

Thanks Boxhitch! I had no idea - and this wasn't mentioned at the Townhall - yet the announcement was March 22nd... somewhat annoyed.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Great job, Mark!! Way to step up!

[Grumpa Joe]

Thanks Boxhitch! I had no idea - and this wasn't mentioned at the Townhall - yet the announcement was March 22nd... somewhat annoyed.

Ditto! Why was this not mentioned at the town-hall meeting? You think that something this important would be mentioned. A matter of clear and open communication between BCWF and it's members. Especially the ones who made the effort to turn out.

[boxhitch]

Thanks Boxhitch! I had no idea - and this wasn't mentioned at the Townhall - yet the announcement was March 22nd... somewhat annoyed.Not your fault ? Even though it was in all (most) of the media.
I think it even hit my FB, and I don't do that

And there is the falldown. How to communicate with those that want, and then how to get the message to those that don't
HBC can have 400+ viewers at any one time, but what are they reading

[guest]

Well the NDP candidate that was at the Langley a Town Hall, just returned my call. That's more then any Liberal can say. ....... Liberals didn't even send ANY representation. Brutal. Way to go Minister Coleman and company, NO ONE !

I tip my hat to you young lady, for not just showing up but for calling me back. Her eyes have been opened up.
We spent a good half hour on the phone. To be clear, everyone needs a wake up call on the lack of funding and management of our forests, fish and wildlife.
She was astonished at the lack of funding compared to our neighbors in all directions, as she said, like most she had no idea.
She was also very clear, on the GBear hunt, that it still be on where supported by good population, but supported all meat removal. Which is fine with me. On Wolf Cull, yes, they support this where also needed.

I hope the NDP win more seats .......... Come up with supporting a funding model getting us on track. Big time!

[Fisher-Dude]

She was also very clear, on the GBear hunt, that it still be on where supported by good population, but supported all meat removal. Which is fine with me.


Funny how other NDP candidates are saying they will close the hunt 100%.

Yet others say only sustenance hunters (those would be native indians) will be allowed to hunt.

They should get their story straight, eh?

At the very least, Horgan said you won't be able to keep any momento of your hunt (if they do allow a hunt), such as the hide, the skull, etc. You will have to leave it to rot, or you'll have to give it to the government to be destroyed.

[Grumpa Joe]

Unfortunately, any candidate will tell you their perspective on any given issue, and they may be sincere, but ultimately it comes down to toeing the party line if you want to advance in the ranks or be renominated to run for the party.

[GoatGuy]

If you value the future of wildlife, if you value conservation, if you value you and your families future in hunting......
Get out and attend the Important Town Hall Meeting April 26 /17 at the Langley Civic Facility, Fraser River Theater, 20338-65 ave Langley, BC
7:00PM....... Representatives from BCWF Resident Priority Program.
Wildlife, Conservation and your hunting future depend on You!
Let's help get our Wildlife numbers back to what they once were.... And MORE!

See you there!
CT


Curly top keep up the great work.

Fish and wildlife need more guys like you to step up and drive change.

Appreciate all your efforts!

[brownmancheng]

The Lower Mainland is a commuters hell..

Whoever put the start time @ 7PM is out to lunch...

I wanted to go, by the time I got home from work (6:45), walk the dog, feed the cat, shower etc, not happening...

thank you for making it a priority! everyone that attended re arranged their life to be there for this important issue. and unfortunately, with all the apathy (even on this site) it appears the writing is on the wall...

[brownmancheng]

Hi Guys,

Here's a letter I wrote to Jesse:

Good Morning Jesse,

First – thank you for all the background work you and your colleagues have put into the Town Halls. I attended the Langley meeting last night and although I was somewhat aware of the issues – as a “late-to-life” hunter I certainly didn’t have a full 360 of the crisis at hand.

I’m putting my hand up and letting you know I’m here to help. So please let me know if there is anything I can do to assist the BCWF and the mission beyond writing letters.

My main take-aways from the Town Hall is the BCWF could use assistance in the two areas:


Summary of the message in a social media friendly format(s)
A grassroots activist strategy focused exclusively on the Town Hall message (funding/science/social buy in)

Perhaps create a central umbrella for organizers and supports to gather under (arm of the BCWF?/something else?)
Identification of the issue in publicly consumptive manner
Delivery of the message across all possible platforms
Creation of infographics
Reaching out to like-minded organizations to share social media galvanization and “pushs” (ie thunderclaps)




I have some background in these two areas – but I’m no expert. However, I do work with two professionals who’s business is to more or less build grass root organizations from the ground up. Their typical clients are universities, local governments and complex organizations like the Vancouver Aquarium. I have sent them an email with Coles notes of the Town Hall and have asked for some advice.

One of their projects is http://www.myseatosky.org/ and they are responsible for the Howe Sound Declaration – a good example of grass roots organization with tangible results.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

PS: Great work on the Rookie Hunter Podcast! Those guys are awesome!

Cheers,

did you get a response from Jesse or any insight from your friends?

thank you for your efforts!

[markathome]

Hey Brownman - I did get a reply from Jesse and my colleagues - I'm formulating a bit of a framework in my head right now and hope to meet with Jesse the next time he's in Vancouver. Once work chills a bit here in month or so I'll put some elbow grease into this. Also I think the results of the election is going to dictate where the most energy needs to be focused.

I was impressed by the BCWF and this latest press release summarizing the latest effort to protect and grow wildlife in BC:

Five of the province’s leading conservation organizations have signed a historic Memorandum of Understanding in support of growing wildlife populations in British Columbia. The BC Wildlife Federation, Guide Outfitters Association of British Columbia, Wild Sheep Society of British Columbia, Wildlife Stewardship Council and the B.C. Trappers Association came together to announce the MOU at the BCWF’s Annual General Meeting in Nelson on Saturday.

Concern about the on-going decline of wildlife including, moose, mule deer, elk, wild sheep and caribou brought the conservation organizations together for the sake of building and maintaining healthy wildlife populations for First Nations, B.C. residents, guide outfitters, trappers and the non-hunting public. The MOU follows the provincial government’s recent announcement that all hunting licence revenues will be re-invested to enhance wildlife management activities.
“This MOU is another mechanism to ensure the province invests in our wildlife”, said John Henderson, President of the Wildlife Stewardship Council.

Jim Glaicar, President of the 50,000 member BC Wildlife Federation said, "The collaborative efforts of our five organizations will help to ensure the province follows through on its commitment to enhance wildlife management."
Michael Schneider, President of the Guide Outfitters Association of British Columbia said, "This is a great opportunity for our organizations to work together for the betterment of wildlife in the province."
“B.C.'s wild sheep populations have been declining for years", said Rodney Zeman, President of the Wild Sheep Society of BC. "This MOU will help to ensure we put and keep wild sheep on the mountain."

B.C. Trappers Association, President Brian Dack said, “We look forward to working with our conservation partners in support of growing more wildlife."