Spike bull moose

[Eichelherr]

So after working in the fort. st. james area for 6 weeks and seeing tons of moose, i looked up the regulations, and for some reason it says that only spike-fork Bulls and calves are legal. Im wondering as to the reason to this since taking the older bulls would help the youger ones get into the gene pool making the moose population healthier. I am wondering as to the rationale, as i am sure there is one.
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[hunter1947]

20 bulls to 100 cows make it right for a good healthy moose population.:wink:

[Jelvis]

Older bulls breed the cows, the ones with the biggest most symetrical antlers not because they beat all other bulls away but the cows want and will let him on. She won't let an immature jump her, You need a ratio of 60 breeding bulls per 100 fertile cows to impregnate the cows in the area. Big older bulls do the breeding you have to have them to do it.

[todbartell]

there is LEH for any bull as well, and in region 6 which isnt too far from Ft St James (6-6), there is a week long open bull season in October

[hunter1947]

Older bulls breed the cows, the ones with the biggest most symetrical antlers not because they beat all other bulls away but the cows want and will let him on. She won't let an immature jump her, You need a ratio of 60 breeding bulls per 100 fertile cows to impregnate the cows in the area. Big older bulls do the breeding you have to have them to do it.
That not the ratio i got from one of the head biologist from the wildlife department in 1998 ,:-?.

[Jelvis]

Mu 6-5 and MU 6-6 Burns Lake North. Primary access is the road north from Burns Lake to Babine Lake, logging spurs from this main road into numerous small lakes, streams and associated moose meadows. Boat 4 moose on Babine?

[Jelvis]

Hunter 47 I think the area would have an actual reason for this varying the percentages. Type of topography, feed, water habitat etc. I guess the bulls would be glad if they were the only one to do the job,eh! 1 bull to 100 cows all depends on which gender is born compared to the other and then the bulls have to go where theres different bloodlines too right. Lots of variables to consider.

[GoatGuy]

30 bulls per 100 cows post hunt

[Jelvis]

I talk to the top one bioligist in Kamloops district. he says different then all of whats been said on this thread here, so different strokes for different folks. Who really knows exactly anyways it's all good. Nothing to lose sleep over.

[wsm]

i got moose draw for 7-14

[30-06]

so there's no Any bull Season In/ Around Chetwynd This Season??

[Fisher-Dude]

Moose in BC are managed for 30 bulls/100 cows after the season is done.

Back to the original question, spike/fork is used to allow hunting opportunities where there is a conservation concern that GOS any bull would be detrimental to the bull/cow ratio. Only 40% of first year bulls will be a spike fork, while 60% of first year bulls will be 3 or better. This allows recruitment of juveniles to the second year while still allowing a hunting opportunity. Usually, very few spike/forks are shot, as there are few of them around, and they are often hard to identify before they take off.

Still, it's a hunting opportunity, and it keeps me pounding the bush looking for one.

[todbartell]

your quad pounds bush? :D

[Fisher-Dude]

your quad pounds bush? :D

Ya, the alder bush that grows in the middle of the roads. :-P

[Wildfoot]

Heres a spike I got in 7b last season.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3633/img4345gme5.jpg

[30-06]

nice lookin moose.were in 7b?..no specifics just surrounding town

[todbartell]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm more tender moose

2006
http://usera.imagecave.com/ws6/Sept10th2006LEHBull015-copy.jpg

1999
http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/13Pictures_732.jpg

got another in 1997 but dont have pics of that one :-D

[Fisher-Dude]

Those moose look older than Bartell.

[Schmaus]

Those moose look older than Bartell.


hahahaha, thats exactly what I was thinking :mrgreen:

[Wildfoot]

Up by Hudson's Hope

[CanuckShooter]

So after working in the fort. st. james area for 6 weeks and seeing tons of moose, i looked up the regulations, and for some reason it says that only spike-fork Bulls and calves are legal. Im wondering as to the reason to this since taking the older bulls would help the youger ones get into the gene pool making the moose population healthier. I am wondering as to the rationale, as i am sure there is one.

It's because the moose population is in trouble...they are all being shot off or are dying of old age. It has nothing to do with making big bull moose tags available for non resident hunters....TIC [tongueincheek]

[GoatGuy]

the ones with the biggest most symetrical antlers not because they beat all other bulls away but the cows want and will let him on

Jelly,

Did that come from the sick fella that was tellin ya about critters with white antlers being sick too?

Never knew cows could ID those non-typ deductions on the big old breeder bulls.

Guess the two-legged moose seekers aren't the only ones looking for those stinky old, high netting B&C bulls!*)

Want to know where to get those bigger booners book bulls - don't ask the hunters or follow them to their spots? The wise hunters have grown up in the woods in 6, 7a and 7B and they know where to go.

Out there should be taking a lesson or two from the cows if you want to put a big old, high netting, booner of a bull from the swamp into the saucepan. They know the score and the deductions - they know what it takes to make the book.

Remember steer clear of them non-typ tines if you want a booner - talk to the cows, they know where to go.

Guess all females are adding up the inches and making sure things are symmetrical - it ain't just the hunters or the cows.

Learning, living and wanting to see a big old, high netting, symmetrical bull, knowing where to go - moose guy 17072007.......................................... .....................

[Fisher-Dude]

GG would know, he's jumped a few cows himself. He knows what it takes.

MU 8-10, Okanagan, GG follows Springfield to Kirschner, 100 meters north. Parks and goes in to where the cows hang out. Many cows to choose from. Many there wish to ride the bull, but the bull has other ideas. Wear your cowboy boots. Hang on to your hat. Shoot straight.

Good advice there GG.

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