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Jonothan
01-21-2017, 12:03 PM
Hello, I was reading through the hunting regulations of BC, and i thought i saw that it said you can only use a shotgun that fires 2 rounds, is this only for curtain game? or it it just for semi auto repeating firearms? thanks

russm86
01-21-2017, 12:10 PM
It's in the unlawful section, I believe if you are using any kind of shot it must be plugged to 2 rounds in the mag (+1 chambered) but if using slugs only you are exempt from this.

Drillbit
01-22-2017, 04:35 AM
Curtains, blinds.....lol

russm86 gave you the same answer I would've;

Other than to add for schedule C animals(crows in particular), I was told by a CO that a magazine could be unplugged. This is word of mouth though, and might not have any weight.

"No Choke"Lord Walsingham
01-22-2017, 06:04 AM
I received the same information as noted above from the BC COS.

Schedule C or any other purpose than Hunting of Game species that require a BC Hunting license is no capacity limits by the Province. Waterfowl is Federal. BC says that Schedule C species are not considered as included in their definition of "Hunting" as such does not require a Hunting license.

Otherwise, for any and all Game species in BC while using ammunition that meets their definition of shot - ammunition that is manufactured so as to contain 8 or more roughly spherical projectiles - must hold no more than two in the magazine, three total capacity. Things like Ghost loading and/or ammunition that doesn't meet the definition of shot is legally nebulous.

My (be it unsolicited) opinion is that this is basically just anti-shotgun bigotry by BC. There's a lot of that. No shortage of ridiculous regulations in this Province!

snipersights
01-22-2017, 08:02 AM
So I can fill my semi auto with slugs to hunt deer or blackies that's news. And great news at that

Bonz
01-22-2017, 08:24 AM
hmm..first ive heard shcedule c isnt concidred a hunt, rabbit hunting..isnt hunting? way i was taught, if it doesnt say ys, you can do this, or that. then its illegal, basicly way i was taught. everything is illegal,the regs are our book of expemptions basicly.
not saying you guys are wrong. just goes opposite what ive been taught, and never heard that before

boxhitch
01-22-2017, 08:49 AM
Bonz, that sounds like backwards thinking, laws are controlling not allowances
The regs has a big section of 'it is unlawful' ,
This discussion goes way back to the spear hunting days.

snipersights
01-22-2017, 08:52 AM
Off topic but is spear hunting allowed still in bc?

Bonz
01-22-2017, 09:00 AM
Bonz, that sounds like backwards thinking, laws are controlling not allowances
The regs has a big section of 'it is unlawful' ,
This discussion goes way back to the spear hunting days.

yes i realize its backward thinking. but for most if it, it fits and makes sence...along with that unlawfull to section. i read them that way and if i have a concern that fit that, i call my co that will be busting me in whatever area to get that 1 co`s view. not a co from a diff unit, he wont be the guy nailing you with his interpretation of regs..they all seem to read it diff also lol

boxhitch
01-22-2017, 09:00 AM
Page 14 defines what can be hunted under Schedule C without a licence, rabbits not listed
Schedule C requires a hunting licence for the most part

Bonz
01-22-2017, 09:02 AM
and since this is for the new hunter reading up before his testing. and this talk on schedule "c"..the one on that list you do need a basic hunting licence for is the newly added feral pigs, havent looked, but id assume it says that in them.

boxhitch
01-22-2017, 09:05 AM
yes i realize its backward thinking. but for most if it, it fits and makes sence...sorry you live that way by choice

along with that unlawfull to sectionNot just the page 14 section , but throughout the regs the 'unlawful' word comes up

Bonz
01-22-2017, 09:09 AM
sorry you live that way by choice
Not just the page 14 section , but throughout the regs the 'unlawful' word comes up

sory i dint put the 2 on that to make it plural,lol. is kinda what it meant.
im fine living it that way., never had any issues with legalities

brian
01-22-2017, 10:03 AM
rabbits not listed Eastern cottontail and European Rabbits are listed as schedule C.

I always found it weird that buckshot needs plugging but slugs don't.

Bonz
01-22-2017, 11:12 AM
Page 14 defines what can be hunted under Schedule C without a licence, rabbits not listed
Schedule C requires a hunting licence for the most part

only 1 on schedule c that needs a license if i recall right. them feral hogs, and as other posted., rabbit is on the list
maybe my thoughts arnt so wrong then lol

"No Choke"Lord Walsingham
01-22-2017, 06:08 PM
So I can fill my semi auto with slugs to hunt deer or blackies that's news. And great news at thatIt is, well said!

I'll add that slugs are not legal in Bow/Shot only areas in BC as they do not meet the definition of shot. To do so is a regulatory violation.

"No Choke"Lord Walsingham
01-22-2017, 06:16 PM
Bonz the idea that laws are permission as opposed to prohibition is certainly wrong. Licenses are the exemption to doing something otherwise illegal. Some idea you've expresed here are plenty wrong as for what the rest of us should do/how a system supposedly based on the Rule of Law functions; however, if your personal sense of ethics tells you that's the case it then certainly is correct for you!

The idea that laws are permission not prohibition is disturbing. None the less, very common and an idea promoted by authorites in socialist police state nations with apartheid systems such as this one.

Also wrong is folks studying for CORE or what have you via a Hunting forum. Read the synopsis and the actual legislation behind that. Ask MFLNROD/BCCOS for clarification on an issue or just do what you want and back your play in a court of law if needs be. It's fun to have a chat but forums are for entertainment, not legal advice.

Many regulatory violations are akin to a traffic ticket as per the amount fines are and the process. This knowledge comes from study on the matter. I have not been accused of violations of the Wildlife Act/Hunting Regulations in BC nor in any other jurisdiction.

Bonz
01-22-2017, 06:26 PM
lol, dont take my idea so literal guys. i know how to read the regs

Bonz
01-22-2017, 06:27 PM
think i mentioned to the new guy to ask the co in the area he wants to hunt in to, somewhere on here. they even have diff ideas of the regs

Drillbit
01-22-2017, 06:37 PM
I'd like to know where limiting a magazine originated from.

There is a limit on how many animals you can take, why limit how fast you can take them?

I'm betting its from the rich guys, with some pull, back in the day with their fancy side by sides that got out shot by average Joes with pumps and magazine fed guns. The beginning of political correctness, limiting everyone to the lowest common denominator, cause someones feeling got hurt.

If anyone knows the real answer, I'd love to hear it!

"No Choke"Lord Walsingham
01-22-2017, 07:04 PM
I'd like to know where limiting a magazine originated from.

There is a limit on how many animals you can take, why limit how fast you can take them?

I'm betting its from the rich guys, with some pull, back in the day with their fancy side by sides that got out shot by average Joes with pumps and magazine fed guns. The beginning of political correctness, limiting everyone to the lowest common denominator, cause someones feeling got hurt.

If anyone knows the real answer, I'd love to hear it!Game/"sportsmen" clubs back in the day felt that it was not within their definition of "sporting" to use more shells when higher capacity guns such as the Winchester 1897 and subsequently Model 12 (as two examples) hit the market.

The idea originates with antis within our midst. It also has quite a bit to do with the banning of market Hunting (same with the idea to not allow the use of shotguns larger than 10 gauge). It is the so called "sportsmen" who try to impose their personal sense of ethics on others. Now it is just more anti Shotgun rigamarole from the powers that be today. Their idea is/was to lower harvest by reducing the amount of animals that can be taken from any given flock at a time to make the filling of a bag limit more difficult. This idea does not hold water as higher cap just means more chances to miss! Maybe they thought it was cut down on wounding losses, sky busting and flock shooting instead of picking out individual birds to shoot. These are rationalizations on their ideas and arguments I've heard from proponents of such regulations.

hoochie
01-22-2017, 11:30 PM
Hello, I was reading through the hunting regulations of BC, and i thought i saw that it said you can only use a shotgun that fires 2 rounds, is this only for curtain game? or it it just for semi auto repeating firearms? thanks

Pg17:
says if hunting with shot, it has to have a mag cap of 2. This means you can also have one in the chamber, to make it a total of 3. ( shot)
If you are hunting big game, you can have a high cap mag with slugs only ( single projectile).

So, if yo take your 7 round 12g and shoot a grouse with it, you can be in trouble.
If you have a semi auto its capped at 5.

scratching your head yet??

finngun
01-23-2017, 10:48 AM
More scraching,,sorry off topic...but if driver is crusing horst car on HOV lane ..and get stopped by cop...because only driver,,,,, he is pointing back to his ' cold customer ' at the back of the car,,,,is he get fined ,,or not..:):mrgreen::roll:cheers fG

wideopenthrottle
01-23-2017, 11:17 AM
are saying there is a problem with undertakers using a full coffin to get around the HOV restrictions...sneaky buggers