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RoscoeP
12-26-2016, 09:03 AM
Are there any issues with shipping long guns through Canada Post? Empty of course with no ammo in the box, pretty sure they do but not positive.

Rhyno
12-26-2016, 09:46 AM
Never had an issue, follow the rules above and you should be good to go.

Weatherby Fan
12-26-2016, 09:54 AM
I've shipped dozens of guns through Canada Post, never an issue, once it's wrapped up its just another parcel !

Bonz
12-26-2016, 09:56 AM
never had any issue other than them leaving them at doors in plain view to be stolen, when i talk to them about that, as i feel its intentional, they know its a gun,. they say put no drop shipping on it i believe, then it wont be left...or not suposed to be left at a door.
ive had 2 left in plain view here,

Weatherby Fan
12-26-2016, 10:08 AM
never had any issue other than them leaving them at doors in plain view to be stolen, when i talk to them about that, as i feel its intentional, they know its a gun,. they say put no drop shipping on it i believe, then it wont be left...or not suposed to be left at a door.
ive had 2 left in plain view here,

Signature required solves the issue of it being dropped off unattended

RiverOtter
12-26-2016, 10:22 AM
Never had a rifle arrive with a locking device, save for NIB from a retailer; and even then, it was a simple keyless device.

fuzzybiscuit
12-26-2016, 10:26 AM
Signature required solves the issue of it being dropped off unattended


Not every time. I've had several left on my door step that were signature required. Followed up with Canada Post twice in the last six months and got nowhere other than frustrated.

Insure everything and hope for the best.

sparkes3
12-26-2016, 10:40 AM
same here with signature required
even if no one is home they still just leave it at the door

Weatherby Fan
12-26-2016, 10:44 AM
I've had parcels left at the door but never once when signature is required........?

Steeleco
12-26-2016, 10:52 AM
Signature required solves the issue of it being dropped off unattended

Depends on the hire a posty, I've had 2 dropped on the door and not signed a thing. Good thing I'm honest!

To add to the OP's question, get enough insurance to cover the cost of a new gun not the price of the current sale. It's $3/100 IIRC and is worth it if things go sideways

Bonz
12-26-2016, 10:59 AM
both times or us they ha sig required. they know dam well what their doing. to bad they cant be charged for leaving it lie that. it is illegal id say. i cant do that im sure or be in some troube

Bonz
12-26-2016, 10:59 AM
next time im tempted to say it was never delivered, since their is no sig.

TARCHER
12-26-2016, 11:14 AM
I've shipped dozens of guns through Canada Post, never an issue, once it's wrapped up its just another parcel ! Same with me. Well wrapped, just another parcel, never been asked whats in the box

Weatherby Fan
12-26-2016, 11:16 AM
On another note about shipping items, I opened an account with Canada Post and it has a bit of savings when shipping, something to think about if your shipping alot of items.

Lastcar
12-26-2016, 12:52 PM
There is no way they'd have any idea what's in it if wrapped well or not using original box.

I just shipped one last week and the buyer worked at the post office. So it never even had to get into a truck at that end.

I've never thought twice about shipping them. As said, just a parcel once wrapped.

Bonz
12-26-2016, 02:50 PM
they handle so many they know whats in them with shape, size and weights. a pretty good assumption anyways. their not stupid when they handle them daily.

DeerSeer
12-29-2016, 09:49 AM
I've had firearms shipped to me from dealers that weren't locked. I've shipped a few rifles, put locks on them. Of course common sense says ship the key separately but the regs don't say that.

"No Choke"Lord Walsingham
12-29-2016, 10:44 AM
I do not recommend nor condone the use of the organization you mention for any purpose. Once, I shipped a gun to myself while traveling signature required as I did not wish to bring the gun along with my person (long story, not driving etc). Those stool samples just handed the thing over to the first person they saw at the address without even asking for a signature. Sent to me in my own name and I had arrived by then, they not only didn't get my signature they got NO signature at all. Also, item was damaged. I was easily able to repair it myself but still complained.
I have also had them just leave parcel that were supposed to be secure lying about in plain sight (outside on the porch, directly visible from the road) without even knocking or ringing the doorbell. Frequently late. Mail wise, they can't even deliver the mail to the correct box around here. It's a farce. Do not use! Do not use puralator either as they are (last time I checked) owned by CP. Go with Fedex, Canpar whoever else. Any body else basically. No matter what do not tell them what's in the package and package plainly. Transportation laws apply not storage for "non restricted" (the categories should read - restricted, legislated into uselessness and outright banned. C-U-Next-Tuesday-ada are antis, period).

Salty
12-29-2016, 12:47 PM
I'm not sure where this lock thing came from but its not a requirement.
Requirements are unloaded, no ammo, signature required, do not tell PO staff or anyone else or show any markings on the parcel that its a firearm, if its restricted you need a transport permit.

Steeleco
12-29-2016, 01:41 PM
Fedex, Canpar whoever else. Any body else basically. No matter what do not tell them what's in the package and package plainly.

That's POOR advice. Fedex for one has a strict firearms policy, should you get found out I'm not sure it would be worth it. While we have all had some issues with CP it's still the best deal around.

"No Choke"Lord Walsingham
12-29-2016, 01:57 PM
Yeah, I have not used Fedex before, they are just a big name alternative that came to mind. Mea culpa, thanks for the clarification! I'll note to always check policies not just before using a service or making a purchase (I always do what I can to insure my money does not go to antis) yet also prior recommending things to others, likewise.

Still I truly despise Canada Post and would rather pay whatever than use them for anything, ever. They're terrible and I can not recommend them. If fedex are antis - then I'll scratch those clowns off the potential service provider list for sure! Canpar is awesome and will ship ammo and everything, whatever you got!

Thank You

Bonz
12-30-2016, 11:25 AM
all the other delivery can open any package for any reason. canada post cant without warrants. i will never ship with others.
been even more bad reports by the competitons to canada post

"No Choke"Lord Walsingham
12-30-2016, 09:38 PM
all the other delivery can open any package for any reason. canada post cant without warrants. i will never ship with others.
been even more bad reports by the competitons to canada post
Please provide a link to the source of this information. It is the first I have heard of this.

Bonz
12-31-2016, 11:03 AM
http://www.privcom.gc.ca/information/ar/02_04_09_01_e.asp

"Opening mail - right to privacy must be first consideration

In March 2001, it was revealed that Canada Customs officials were opening mail coming into Canada and passing the information on to Citizenship and Immigration Canada. The sanctity of personal correspondence is a cornerstone of privacy, and Canadians do not expect that their letters sent through the mail will be opened by anyone except the intended recipient. We don't live in one of those countries where mail is routinely opened by the authorities-or so we thought. I immediately looked into this matter.

Many people were surprised to learn that the opening of mail by Customs is lawful, if the mail weighs over 30 grams. If it is less than 30 grams, the Customs Act prohibits opening it without either a search warrant or the addressee's consent. But as long as the mail, whether a package or personal correspondence, weighs more than 30 grams, Customs inspectors may open it if they believe that it contains contraband or false documents. Any mail considered suspicious from an immigration standpoint is turned over to immigration officials for examination and further action.

It is of great concern to me that this arbitrary and artificial weight distinction allows the opening of, not just packages, but private correspondence. Correspondence should be treated with the greatest possible respect for privacy. The weight of the correspondence should not make a difference. Sending a letter by any form of "priority post" requires placing it in a large and comparatively heavy outer envelope that by itself can often put the item in the "over 30 grams" category. A letter should not be considered any less "mail," and less deserving of privacy protection, simply because the sender wanted to ensure its timely and safe arrival, or for that matter because it's lengthy and therefore heavier.

I made these concerns known to the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, and made the following recommendations

* Where Customs officials detect, in an envelope weighing more than 30 grams, a solid object that appears to be something other than correspondence, opening it would fall within the normal activities of the Customs process.
* Where no solid object is detected and an envelope is detained only on suspicion that it may contain fraudulent documents, Customs should pass the mail to Immigration unopened. Immigration could then obtain a warrant to open it if it had reasonable grounds to do so.

The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration rejected the recommendations, citing the apparent difficulty of detecting some solid objects like laminated cards in envelopes, and the great volume of mail passing through a postal facility. Essentially, she argued that implementing the recommendations would demand greatly increased resources.

Since I could not reach a consensus with the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, I turned my attention to the Minister responsible for the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency. My discussions with the Minister of National Revenue produced a resolution to this matter. Customs has modified its approach and now disregards the weight of courier-type envelopes in determining whether a mailing weighs more or less than 30 grams. Letters within such courier packages are treated as personal mail and not opened if the letters themselves are under 30 grams. I very much appreciate the National Revenue Minister's assistance in resolving this matter."

Bonz
12-31-2016, 11:07 AM
i see the weight thing has changed past few years

"No Choke"Lord Walsingham
01-01-2017, 12:17 PM
Thank you for the link!

None the less, Canada Customs opening mail has nothing to do with domestic shipping of a legally purchased/owned firearm.This clearly has nothing to do with any particular carrier but is just another example of the socialist police state we are subjected to doing socialist police state shit, which is to be expected. This does not prove that alternative parcel carriers will mess with a packaged long gun.

Nothing here has changed my mind about canada post being pure trash and the worst shipping option possible. Then again, apparently they are the cheapest too so perhaps it's just another case of getting what one pays for.

lowball
01-01-2017, 12:32 PM
I have sent and received, well received dozens and dozens of firearms via Canada post with no issues whatsoever. Sent a few Too. LOL

RoscoeP
01-08-2017, 07:46 PM
I just mailed it well packed and wrapped and it arrived on Friday, no issues.

Sharpish
01-20-2017, 02:43 PM
I was being hassled today by the counter lady at the post office. Never had an issue before, what i do is wrap in bubble tape, then wrap in my heavy cardboard making my own 'box' and then cocoon in packing tape. She seemed to think it had to be in a locking container but I've had lot's of guns shipped to me in the original box with "remington" on the side and the only gun ever to be shipped in a hard case was a Marstar SKS that came with a free case. Perhaps that's why they give away the free case?