what do you think this animal is?

[chomper]

taken recently by trail camera on Manitoulin island Ontario http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6121&stc=1

[Knute]

Looks like a cougar to me??? Or a chupacabra ;)

[Island Idiots]

Cougar. IMO

[Looking_4_Jerky]

3rd vote for Cougar.

[Bugle M In]

Cougar.....IMO

[Sander]

4th vote for cougar

[Glenny]

Mountain tagger!

[monasheemountainman]

Whitetail deer

[Mulehahn]

Obese Easter mountain lion. Since they don't officially exist the deer don't know to run away!

[wideopenthrottle]

legs look a bit too skinny and fur too short for a cougar...I'm guessing a deer

[604Stalker]

I think cougar.

[BigBanger]

Some sort of domestic dog. Thats my highly uneducated guess anyway, lol.

[wideopenthrottle]

http://www.naturetracking.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/WildTrack-Cougar-Protocol1.pdf

found this little bit of info while researching cougars that might be helpful to some

[boblly1]

as a cougar stands twice as short as whitetail deer. Because they have legs twice as short as a deer i have seen lots of cougar in my time i pretty sure your looking at cat. And not a very big one either Port Alberni area has a large population of Puma, cougar,mountain lion.what ever you want to call them

[HarryToolips]

whitetail deer

x2............................

[BRvalley]

as much as I do believe there are cougars in ON, that looks like a wt doe with her head turned back

[chomper]

as much as I do believe there are cougars in ON, that looks like a wt doe with her head turned back


Thank you everyone for your responses.. I do have many pictures of deer standing in this area and they seem to be about twice as tall as the animal in question...some people have suggested it is a bobcat?? I think its a cougar.

.i posted it on a BC Hunting website, Because BC hunters will more likely know a cougar when they see one then an Ontario hunter..


Not sure how to crop and expand picture

but if anyone can do this for me and post a better picture from what I have posted it would be much appreciated..

with sincere respect.. Chomper

[Elkaholic]

That is a cougar no doubt. Zoom in look at its back leg stepping right where its front leg is. Cat trait. Look at the body, it is not a deer. Cougar. Done deal.

[albravo2]

second vote chupacabra. rare to see out of mexico though.

[Jeff77]

Cougar is my guess

[ACE]

Deer .......

[srupp]

Hmm why not..lol..I'm thinking cougar the back is rounded muscular..not deer shaped. .same with low hanging neck size , angle..front right leg looks cougar shaped..and thick where a deers leg tapers more..comes down low enough and thick enough to preclude a deer.

Looking at specific parts and then the first glance overall impression is cougar. .
Be real interested what Chilcotin hillbilly thinks..he is far more knowledgeable on cougars..
Steven

[mpotzold]

Enlarged the photo 2 1/2x & compared the 2-almost identical!
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a0/eb/f5/a0ebf596e73dd76f36f2ee949e28c1ac.jpg

[Merch]

http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6124&stc=1

[BRvalley]

http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o784/BRvalley/deer%20or%20cougar%20ON_zpskevwe09r.png (http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/BRvalley/media/deer%20or%20cougar%20ON_zpskevwe09r.png.html)

http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o784/BRvalley/deer%20or%20cougar%20ON_zpsxe39rz1a.png

[Jeff77]

The way the back leg is bent ...its cougar ..no doubt
Deer legs aren't that short

[guest]

Looks like an Arfnarf to me.

[srupp]

Looks like an Arfnarf to me.


Lol......Good one..
Srupp

[adriaticum]

deer

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[butthead]

big pussy cat

[Pursuit]

sure looks like a cougar

[Glenny]

Looks like an Arfnarf to me.

Yarp. .

[hunter1947]

Can't see the animal that good to say what it is ???

[5jackz]

Hard to say . Unlikely that it is the only cat in Ontario .

[chomper]

Thanks for all your replies.. I think its a cougar too.. I have pictures of deer in this area and the does are about twice as tall as that animal and just about same length from ass to front end.... when I look at both pictures I have quickly one after another I can see movement in bushes about a foot behind animal that might be a tail?.. Unfortunately it is not a great picture but a retired CO I know says he is 95% sure its a cougar and has sent the pictures to the MNR science lab for analysis. .thanks again..but still any additional opinions are very much appreciated..

[chomper]

just wanted to bump this back up to try and get some more opinions.. thanks

[Bonz]

looks cougar to me

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/Hub-Sports/image3_zpslxpjo2kn.jpg (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Hub-Sports/media/image3_zpslxpjo2kn.jpg.html)

[Linksman313]

Looks like a cougar to me just by what muscle and skeletal structure I can identify through this pic, my great grampa just recently sold his hunting camp on Manitoulin Island, he is coming out in the Spring I will have to ask him to have a look.

[Bonz]

neck looks to short to me for a deer, can see left rear foot in image. seems a short stride, and short leg length, just seems to muscular to be deer to me

[northernbc]

IPAs undecided but the new bigger pic says cougar to me

[Knute]

Hard to say . Unlikely that it is the only cat in Ontario .

More and more sightings in the past few years...

Cougars officially back in Ontario (http://www.muskokaregion.com/community-story/3575444-cougars-are-officially-back-in-ontario/). Story from 2012

Another story from 2012 (https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2012/07/11/cougars_in_ontario_are_we_seeing_things_or_are_the re_more.html)

2015 blog (http://blogs.canoe.com/outdoorsguy/outdoors/wildlife-observation/cougar-sightings-in-ontario-on-the-rise/)

[BigfishCanada]

Large bobcat

[browningboy]

Rabbit for sure

[wicket]

bobcat. the deer are as rare as hens teeth on manitoulin anymore. plenty of wolves bears coyotes bobcats and poachers though.

[Bonz]

thats a massive bobcat then...lol, record is about 50 pound only

[bacon_overlord]

Steve French. Cougar

[wicket]

thats a massive bobcat then...lol, record is about 50 pound only

yep lol lol lol. from that picture how big does it look to be at the shoulders? i am sticking with the bobcat lol, if you disagree lol just disagree lol because lol. I find adding lol when its clearly not a joke or funny is just @#!&ing ignorant.

[Bonz]

actualy it was funny, your the ignorant one, dont be so dam thin skinned

[Bonz]

i see the front shoulder almost the diamter of that stump in front of it..yet to see a bobcat that huge, bob cat would be about the size of whole stump there

[Bonz]

here, seriously wasnt making fun of you, this cart not in the trap is 32 pound. biggest ive been around. other is mid 20`s
barely width of the guys stance in the pic, i dunno. but that other comparing to the stump out front is quite a bit bigger.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/bobcat5.jpg

[hunter1947]

I see it more clear now no doubt about it this is a cougar..

[dedapair]

I saw a full grown cougar and 1yr plus kit while out hunting bunnies near Newport in the early 80's. When I reported it to the MNR they said it would be too difficult to follow in the snow....WTF !!! We tracked them for a mile or so and returned to hunting rabbits. When we came across a beaten down area covered in rabbit and squirrel hair we started looking in the trees for rabbits....I've been fortunate to see several cougars and kits since moving to BC in 91. Strange though, is the kit back east was spotted. None that I've seen here have that characteristic.

[chomper]

Thanks everyone

people in Ontario have said its a bobcat, I had a "expert" from Quebec say it is a 'Lynx Canadiene".. any one else have any other opinions?

[PressurePoint]

It's isis......

[finaddict]

It's what Trump's hairpiece mated with..................

[Squamch]

It's a cougar.

[WaterFowlin]

Another vote for cougar.

[rcar]

I spent many summers on Manitoulin Island growing up and did a LOT of wondering through the forests...never saw any cats, let alone a a Cougar....Some years back the local paper there was offering a $500 reward to anyone who could provide positive proof of a Cougar on the Island. Nice capture!

[chomper]

YES ...IN 2014 THEY HAD A WINNER OF THAT $500 REWARD.. http://www.manitoulin.ca/2014/07/29/trail-camera-authenticates-island-cougar/

[cas-has-cars]

White Tail Cougar High Bred.
Very Fast with a sharp sense of smell.
No Doubt in my mind.
But it does look like the cougar genes were dominant.

[chomper]

Just got an e-mail from Manitoulin island newspaper they sent the picture to A cougar expert from California and he says its a Bobcat.