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rafike
11-06-2016, 09:18 PM
I have a native friend who has asked me to come along on a late moose hunt in his traditional territory
is there any rules I need to be aware of I will be packing a whitetail tag while he hunts moose

Ddog
11-06-2016, 09:28 PM
you still need to abide by "our" ( non-native) rules,,if the season is open for you to shoot, then your good. If the season is closed you cannot shoot an animal even if you are with a native friend. You need to have permission from the band of the territory you intend to hunt, not just a friend that says its ok. So in short NO you cannot hunt if the animal is closed. You can however accompany, but cannot carry a firearm if "our" (non-native) season is closed.
I know this first hand as i was in the same situation. Just what i was told at the time.
...D

Jagermeister
11-06-2016, 09:38 PM
You should phone the Wildlife Branch to see culpability. Answers here are not necessary correct.
Can you imagine?
CO, "Well young fella, seems you are in illegal possession of a poached moose and will be charged with that offence under the BC Wildlife Act."
rafike, "But sir, the guys over on the HuntingBC forum said it would be no problem if I accompanied my FN friend on moose hunt to his traditional territory, I didn't know that was not his traditional territory."
CO, "LOL, that's one I have never heard before. Do you want to just pay the fine or do you want to take it to court?":lol:

Surrey Boy
11-06-2016, 09:40 PM
Are you going to call him Boss while you carry his moose, Uncle Tom?

Mulehahn
11-06-2016, 09:44 PM
As I understand it, legally you should be fine. As was said, you have to abide by "our laws," but there is no law saying that I cannot hunt deer, wolf, grouse or whatever may be open and I have a tag for while standing 2 feet from someone (total stranger or a friend) who is hunting moose. However, you cannot legally help in hunting moose. No calling, spotting, pushing bush, etc. That being said should you come across a C/O I would be prepared for a headache. He may not be able to charge you but he can make things difficult.

Also, traditional territory is vague as something like 120% of BC is claimed as traditional territory. Depending on the band he is from and where, he may have to seek permission from the local First Nations not just you.

.308SLAYER
11-07-2016, 07:09 AM
Are you going to call him Boss while you carry his moose, Uncle Tom?

I'd love to slap the shit outta you sometimes

rafike
11-07-2016, 07:19 AM
Thanks for all the positive feedback, I will keep you posted on how it turns out

pnbrock
11-07-2016, 07:46 AM
Are you going to be splitting the meat 50/50?kinda becomes a moral issue. Are you prt of problem or solution?

rocksteady
11-07-2016, 07:49 AM
you still need to abide by "our" ( non-native) rules,,if the season is open for you to shoot, then your good. If the season is closed you cannot shoot an animal even if you are with a native friend. You need to have permission from the band of the territory you intend to hunt, not just a friend that says its ok. So in short NO you cannot hunt if the animal is closed. You can however accompany, but cannot carry a firearm if "our" (non-native) season is closed.
I know this first hand as i was in the same situation. Just what i was told at the time.
...D

You are not 100% accurate there D.. The guy states he has a whitey tag (which I assume means the season is still open), and he states in traditional territory, NOT on Reserve Lands. 2 different things.

Linksman313
11-07-2016, 07:57 AM
Are you going to call him Boss while you carry his moose, Uncle Tom?
I'm sure he'll call him Bro when eating his moose

Gateholio
11-07-2016, 09:17 AM
You can hunt with whoever you want, you just need to follow the hunting regs, just like if you were alone.

Gateholio
11-07-2016, 09:20 AM
Are you going to call him Boss while you carry his moose, Uncle Tom?

To ensure you have time to smarten the heck up, you can have a 24 hour HBC vacation.

StuBrown
11-07-2016, 09:54 AM
It is actually completely illegal. I have researched this greatly. You are not allowed to drive, spot, lift it into the truck, hold a leg while gutting, anything!

ajr5406
11-07-2016, 10:03 AM
It is actually completely illegal. I have researched this greatly. You are not allowed to drive, spot, lift it into the truck, hold a leg while gutting, anything!


Thats what I thought too... You can go along, but you cant be involved in any part of the actual hunt. As far as I know you can go along and "watch" but not actually help.

Seeadler
11-07-2016, 10:08 AM
It is actually completely illegal. I have researched this greatly. You are not allowed to drive, spot, lift it into the truck, hold a leg while gutting, anything!

Yeah right, so if I'm hunting wolves and buddy is hunting moose we can't associate? Buddy flags me down on a FRS and says "hey pal can you help me load this" it's illegal?

Put it this way, you and me are driving along, I have a WT tag and you have a MD tag, I can't say "look at that muley"? Neither of us are breaking any laws.

As long as he doesn't shoot the moose he is fine.

krazy
11-07-2016, 10:18 AM
It is actually completely illegal. I have researched this greatly. You are not allowed to drive, spot, lift it into the truck, hold a leg while gutting, anything!

Bahahahahahaha! Look, as Gatehouse stated, look after yourself and follow the hunting regs for you ... that's all you have to worry about. Just change the question to something like "my friend has an LEH Moose Tag, can I go with him and hunt the GOS moose season (or any other open season for which I have a tag or am allowed to hunt)?" There is no difference. Now if your buddy is successful on his LEH moose would you seriously sit back and make him load it himself? If not then it should be the same answer for if your native buddy is successful on his legal moose hunt. If you truly believe the regs prohibit you from helping your LEH buddy (with the work not the hunt) then I guess your native buddy would be on his own too ... but if I were either of them I'd be looking for a new friend ;p

finngun
11-07-2016, 10:52 AM
To ensure you have time to smarten the heck up, you can have a 24 hour HBC vacation.

are ya pushing surrey boy back to a porn side? just for a day..:shock: lead us not to temptation..

decker9
11-07-2016, 11:19 AM
No idea the legalities of it, but I hear about people doing it often, and usually they get "labeled" because lots of the time, the non native is looking for a hand out (not saying you are) Not a chance I'd be willing to take even with the right intentions, could be a recipe for disaster imo.

StuBrown
11-07-2016, 12:02 PM
Direct quote from Ministry of Forests, Lands & Natural Resource Operations

"For example, if a resident Indian was hunting on their traditional territory under an Aboriginal Right during a closed season a non-status person could not participate in the hunt in any way. "

I have spend many hours researching and asking questions. Half of my family is status.

AgSilver
11-07-2016, 01:21 PM
To ensure you have time to smarten the heck up, you can have a 24 hour HBC vacation.

My vote goes to this one as Post of 2016.

Bugle M In
11-07-2016, 01:43 PM
are ya pushing surrey boy back to a porn side? just for a day..:shock: lead us not to temptation..

Thanks for that....just gave me a great long chuckle.....I really frickin needed that!....:smile: