Rifle

[mulieaddiction]

Hey guys i got a big 338 win mag for hunting but as im getting into more hiking i am starting to notice its heavy for hiking hunts what guns do you guys use and recommend to use? Thanks

[Surrey Boy]

http://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/x-bolt/current-production/x-bolt-stainless-stalker.html

X-Bolt Stainless Stalker, 243 - 30-06.

I use an A-bolt, same thing but fifteen years old.

[Darksith]

325wsm...perfect. browning stalker under 7lbs I think

[BgBlkDg]

A good, CRF .338WM is perhaps the best setup for serious all-around hunting in BC. I have had a dozen such rifles, currently own six fine pieces so chambered and with my handloads, I consider it the best in the west. I have used my .338s since January, 1968 and will never be without one.

For backpack/hiking hunting, my main style of hunting for 52 years now, I have most often carried a .338 and one can easily by built to 8.5 lbs or less on a good CRF action. This, is an appropriate and most effective tool for serious hunting and no harder to pack than most .30-06s or .270s.

When. you are alone and far from camp as dusk falls, a .338 is a HELL of a LOT more reassuring in your hands than some smallbore and is NOT hard to learn to shoot well.

[dd3boss]

Tikka is a fine rifle that comes in at under 7 pounds too. And they guarantee accuracy.

[sawmill]

I pack a Browning lever in .243, light fast and fun. And deadly.

[Ronforca]

I also pack a 243 Browning lever.Light and accurate.Very good for Deer , Black bear and beheading Grouse.

[Downwindtracker2]

If your scope is Hubbel II, the number of guys I see hunting timber with 14x, that would be the first lightening I would do. Follow BgBlkDg advice, he's been doing it for a number of years, I think he might have hunted dinosaurs .

[Mikey Rafiki]

325wsm...perfect. browning stalker under 7lbs I think

That's what I have. Don't have to compromise much on power or price for a good gun. But I would recommend loading your own to get the versatility from 160 to 220 grains.

[1899]

Find a nice older SS R700 in .30-06, drop it into a Wildcat stock, load up some 200gr Partitions and call it a day.

[todbartell]

With a 338 in the stable already I would compliment it with something like a 270 Win, 7mm-08, or 308 Win. Moose/elk capable, and often chambered in trim lightweight rifles. Check out the Tikka t3X & Kimber Hunter & Montana rifles

[BgBlkDg]

Good advice, the Kimbers just blow me away with their quality and balance and light weight. If I were not so damned ancient, I would buy several of them.

The Hunter, now coming out in .30-06, etc, is as close to ideal for most BC hunting as one could wish and I can see one in my future..........

[czechsanchez]

tikka t3, you'll have to pretty hold on to it so it doesn't float away.

if they're good enough for the Canadian rangers, they're good enough for us.

[todbartell]

Canadian Rangers used Lee Enfield 303's up to now. They'll take anything! :mrgreen:

[Brew]

I haven't owned a 338 but I do carry a 35 whelen in a cooper excalibre. tonnes of power in a nice small rifle. I doesn't kill you with recoil either. Its pretty close to your 338 though.
A 30-06 with 200gr bullets is pretty good medicine. Also if your looking for a lighter calibre all together get 7-08, 6.5 creedmoor or a 308. they all make light handy little guns for packing around and they get the job done.

[25-06 Tikka]

Tikka is a fine rifle that comes in at under 7 pounds too. And they guarantee accuracy.

I went the T3 route in 25-06 about 3yrs ago for a lighter packing rifle. I have had no regrets thus far.

[mulieaddiction]

Thanks for all the help guys im needing a second rifle anyways i was thinking a 243 or 270 and now what grain would you recommend

[25-06 Tikka]

All subject to twist rates but with the 270 a well constructed 130gr like the TTSX Partition or any of the bonded bullets will work well. Fast and flat shooting. Hard to go wrong with a 95 grain bullet for the 243. These are what I would try first.

[pappy]

Kimber Montana in 338 win mag with 210 ttsx and a kimber classic select in 270 win with 140 accubonds is what I usually carry, I have been happy with how both kimber's handle and they both will out shoot my skills as they are well made. Find a gun that fits you well and feels right and you will be happy.

[todbartell]

Thanks for all the help guys im needing a second rifle anyways i was thinking a 243 or 270 and now what grain would you recommend

as good of a cartridge as the 243 is, I can't think of a single reason why it would be better than a 270 for any big game hunting in BC, unless a guy was really recoil shy...which is probably not the case here. 270, loaded with 130-150gr bullets, shoots as flat, hits harder, and is better suited for elk, moose and big black bears than a 243

[hoochie]

Thanks for all the help guys im needing a second rifle anyways i was thinking a 243 or 270 and now what grain would you recommend

my wife shot everything this year with 130gr in her Xbolt.
one word.
LETHAL.

I used the same bullet, just pushed it faster out of a 270WSM

[AgSilver]

as good of a cartridge as the 243 is, I can't think of a single reason why it would be better than a 270 for any big game hunting in BC, unless a guy was really recoil shy...which is probably not the case here. 270, loaded with 130-150gr bullets, shoots as flat, hits harder, and is better suited for elk, moose and big black bears than a 243

With those calibres in mind, why not go to something like a 6.5 Creedmoor to get the best of both worlds? From my (admittedly deficient and from a perspective lacking in knowledge re ballistics etc) research, it sounds like it's one of the best in that slightly smaller range as you get more oomph (technical term) than a 243...closer to a 270, but without the recoil of a 270. Flatter trajectory and faster bullets, no?

Something like a Browning X-Bolt Western Hunter in 6.5 CM could be found for about $1000+ on sale. Or you can get into a Kimber MA for $2500'ish.

Or am I way out to lunch and missing important facts?

[twoSevenO]

With those calibres in mind, why not go to something like a 6.5 Creedmoor to get the best of both worlds? From my (admittedly deficient and from a perspective lacking in knowledge re ballistics etc) research, it sounds like it's one of the best in that slightly smaller range as you get more oomph (technical term) than a 243...closer to a 270, but without the recoil of a 270. Flatter trajectory and faster bullets, no?

Something like a Browning X-Bolt Western Hunter in 6.5 CM could be found for about $1000+ on sale. Or you can get into a Kimber MA for $2500'ish.

Or am I way out to lunch and missing important facts?

less rifle options as not everyone chambers in this caliber and more expensive ammo.

[mulieaddiction]

I love my sako 338 and big scope but its alot to carry around for a mule deer thats why im thinking a 270 just need to try to find a good grain and bullet that is good and not a huge drop up to 200 yards

[AgSilver]

less rifle options as not everyone chambers in this caliber and more expensive ammo.

More and more rifle options every day. Savage alone has 20 models in 6.5 CM (apparently, according to the website anyhow).

Ammo pricing, fair enough (although not crazy expensive, from what I have seen...just doesn't have the hundreds of choices of lower end ammo...yet).

But yes, point taken. Still seems like that's changing more daily.

[hoochie]

270 shoots very flat.
130gr bullet going 2900fps
zero'd at 100yrd drops 12" at 300.

aim a little high on the deer and your gunna hit it at 300.

[mulieaddiction]

What bullet do you use


And i am thinking to go check out the t3 lite 270 and see how that feels

[mulieaddiction]

270 shoots very flat.
130gr bullet going 2900fps
zero'd at 100yrd drops 12" at 300.

aim a little high on the deer and your gunna hit it at 300.

What bullet do you use and im thinking of looking at the t3 lite 270

[mulieaddiction]

Also just wondering is 130grain would be to light ror a big mulie i dont hunt white tail just i hear lots of ppl using 160 grain in the 270s

[hoochie]

I am using Berger this year. I have used Sierra game king, Hornady SST, Hornady interlocks also.
T3 is great gun. Ive had 3 of them.
1 in 243 and 2 in 270WSM.

Xbolt makes a wicked rifle. recoil is minimal. same caliber, and Xbolt shoots softer.
look at both. try them on for size.

I can go look... I think I have some loose projectiles ( last of the boxes). might have an assortment you could try.

[Caribou_lou]

Also just wondering is 130grain would be to light ror a big mulie i dont hunt white tail just i hear lots of ppl using 160 grain in the 270s

Not too light for a big Muley. I was reloading 130grain accubonds in my T3 with great accuracy and performance. Shot a big Cow elk if FSJ with that reloads a couple years ago at 300 yards. I started shooting 140grain because I couldnt find 130 grain at a number of stores. The 140s ended up matching my balistic plex in my new vortex perfectly. Shot a 3 1/2 year old bull at 320yards last year. One shot. I love my .270 T3 and haven't been more confident than I am now. You won't regret that buy paired up with a quality scope.

[hoochie]

Ive got 20+ maybe 30 130gr Sierra game kings
1 full box of 140gr SST
1 full box 150gr SST

If you get a 270, I'll let this stuff go for a good price, save you some money.
Im on a Berger kick right now, and this stuff is just sitting pretty on the shelf not being used.

[mulieaddiction]

So 130 grain is harder to get than 140?

[1899]

So 130 grain is harder to get than 140?

Depends. IMO the 130 and 150gr Partitions are fantastic bullets. I load them both, but mostly the 150's. With RL26 I am getting 2970fps (chronographed) with 150gr Partitions in a Tikka T3 Superlight. Not too much reason to go to 130's as the 150's are a bit better aerodynamically so the little advantage you gain in MV is countered to a fair degree by the ballistic advantage of the 150. Not that there is anything wrong with the 130 at all.

[Caribou_lou]

So 130 grain is harder to get than 140?

It was at the time. No one had 130grain Accubonds. So I went with the 140. Still shoots great but different powder amount.

[twoSevenO]

270 is a great choice, but if you already have a 338 that you can use for elk and moose then if I were you i'd go for something smaller than a 270. A 260 Remington or a 243Win would be my choice. Shorter action, lighter rifle, lower recoil

BTW, why did you even get a 338 win mag as a first rifle anyways? That seems a little extreme to start out with unless you got into grizzly hunting right away or something.

[mulieaddiction]

270 is a great choice, but if you already have a 338 that you can use for elk and moose then if I were you i'd go for something smaller than a 270. A 260 Remington or a 243Win would be my choice. Shorter action, lighter rifle, lower recoil

BTW, why did you even get a 338 win mag as a first rifle anyways? That seems a little extreme to start out with unless you got into grizzly hunting right away or something.

When i started out hunting my dsd hunted with a 338 and i was always around it and liked shooting his and only road hunt but now relize its to hravy and big for hiking haha so you think 243? Would be better? My wife has a weatherby 243 black and pink she shoots barns x i beilive

[mulieaddiction]

Also im wondering if the 243 would drop more at a longer distance and maybe not as effective at further range than the 270

[Comerade]

I have a .243 and never use it,and large bore rifles that stay home to.The .270 win rifles goes everywhere with me and provides the right capability for my purposes here in the East Kootenay.I just use high quality Nosler,Barnes or Hornady bullets.A .270,.280 or a 30/06 will do great things in a light short mountain rifle imo

[sawmill]

I love my 243 BLR but my go to rifle for 25 years is my 30.06 Brno. 165 grn Federals. 1 inch high at 100 yards and it has killed every year with one shot. That`s with a good rest and a standing animal. I don`t take stupid shots. And aim for the boiler room. No friggen head/neck shots.

[604redneck]

Kimber Montana 7-08 with a 3-9x36 Swarovski weighs 6 pounds with 3 rounds in it

[Sinperama]

I use my 15lb XCR.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Remington M7 SS B&C stock 7-08 with 2.5-8 Leupold in Talley rings . :smile: RJ

[mastercaster]

I'm really liking my 7-08 a lot,,,,first year hunting with it and all three deer shot dropped on the spot. All 3 were shot while off hiking in the bush. I'm using 120 gr. TTSX loaded with varget, getting just over 2900 fps. The rifle is a Sako 85 SS, scoped with a Leupold VX3 3.5−10 x40,,,,,not sure of the weight but it certainly felt light enough packing it around. After using this rifle it's been hard wanting to get my other one out. LOL

[todbartell]

With those calibres in mind, why not go to something like a 6.5 Creedmoor to get the best of both worlds? From my (admittedly deficient and from a perspective lacking in knowledge re ballistics etc) research, it sounds like it's one of the best in that slightly smaller range as you get more oomph (technical term) than a 243...closer to a 270, but without the recoil of a 270. Flatter trajectory and faster bullets, no?

Something like a Browning X-Bolt Western Hunter in 6.5 CM could be found for about $1000+ on sale. Or you can get into a Kimber MA for $2500'ish.

Or am I way out to lunch and missing important facts?

I typed a long reply the other day but HBC froze up and it was all lost in cyber space. Short version - As good as the 6.5 Creedmoor is the 270 beats it at typical hunting ranges, at the expense of +25% more recoil. Mind you the 270 is pretty tolerable even in light rifles.

[ryanonthevedder]

If you dont need optics an old savage lever action model 99 is the way to go! By far the best carrying weapon I have used.

[Rotorwash]

Or you could be a cheapskate like me and buy a savage 11 or 16 package in 260/65cm for a little over $700 . accutrigger and lightweight. even comes with scope you can put on a 22.

[JDR]

Owned many rifles. Extremely happy with my Browning stainless stalker in 30-06. Light weight with the tally rings and Leupold VII scope. Hardly notice I'm carrying it compared to my other rifles. Recoil is also very manageable.

[twoSevenO]

I typed a long reply the other day but HBC froze up and it was all lost in cyber space. Short version - As good as the 6.5 Creedmoor is the 270 beats it at typical hunting ranges, at the expense of +25% more recoil. Mind you the 270 is pretty tolerable even in light rifles.

I agree with that when compared against the 270 .... but why would someone choose a 6.5C over a 260 remington? Thoughts?

[Rotorwash]

I agree with that when compared against the 270 .... but why would someone choose a 6.5C over a 260 remington? Thoughts?

I got both.
both shooting the same bullet at the same velocity. basically identical. couple grains more 4350 in one than the other. 43.0 vs 41.0 .
If i didnt reload i would buy 6.5cm for the availability of factory loads. The 260 loads didn't shoot that well out of my rifle, were hard to find and were fairly expensive.
Components tho, the 260 shines. 243 and 308 brass is everywhere and fairly cheap.

[BCBRAD]

I agree with that when compared against the 270 .... but why would someone choose a 6.5C over a 260 remington? Thoughts?


The Creedmore works better in short (2.8") actions such as the Rem 700, it's due to longer neck which accommodates long high BC bullets with out constraint.

The 260 shines in 'short' action rifles that are a bit more generous in length than the Rem 700 or many levers with the 2.8" length.

So , if you are using bullets up to 125-130gr the 260 and the Creedmore are virtually the same in the field. If you want to use a VLD or Berger Hybrid the Creedmore is better in the 2.8" action.

[twoSevenO]

I got both.
both shooting the same bullet at the same velocity. basically identical. couple grains more 4350 in one than the other. 43.0 vs 41.0 .
If i didnt reload i would buy 6.5cm for the availability of factory loads. The 260 loads didn't shoot that well out of my rifle, were hard to find and were fairly expensive.
Components tho, the 260 shines. 243 and 308 brass is everywhere and fairly cheap.

How is the factory ammo cheaper for the 6.5 if the 260 has been around for about 10 years (i think?) longer? I'd expect it to have more options as it is chambered in more rifles that i can see.

Has the 6.5 just gained that much popularity in its relatively short existence?

[todbartell]

Hornady has supported the Creedmoor with a crapload of offerings. Remington only makes a 140gr CorLokt for the 260 now haha...Hornady has jumped on board for 2017 and offering component 260 Rem brass and one factory load, a 129gr SST Superformance.

I was going to get a 6.5 Creedmoor but when Lapua announced 260 Rem brass that was the deciding factory for me. Love that Lapua brass!

[Glassman]

I have a Weatherby Vanguard in .338win mag for my Moose and Elk and a .270 for deer. But,,,,,,, I've shot a nice Moose and a couple of Elk with my .270. My son has a Tika M57 in .270 that he uses for deer but has also shot a couple of nice Elk with it. My other son uses a .257 Roberts in a customized Remington 700 with a Shillen barrel for his deer. I've shot most calibers and have to admit that I like the .257 Roberts for deer the best. We use 225 grain Hornady Superperformance for the .338. 130 grain Sierra Game King in the .270 and 110 grain Sierra for the .257

[twoSevenO]

Hornady has supported the Creedmoor with a crapload of offerings. Remington only makes a 140gr CorLokt for the 260 now haha...Hornady has jumped on board for 2017 and offering component 260 Rem brass and one factory load, a 129gr SST Superformance.

I was going to get a 6.5 Creedmoor but when Lapua announced 260 Rem brass that was the deciding factory for me. Love that Lapua brass!

What is the reason for 260 losing ground that quickly to the 6.5? Still seems to be offered in quite a few rifles out there so it's not like any rifle manufacturers have dropped it.

[WWBC]

I'm really happy with my tikka t3 stainless in 30-06. It's light, very accurate and not in any way fancy. It does every thing I need.
I've also been impressed with the x-bolts I've shot and for some strange reason I really like the TC pro hunter single shots.

[REMINGTON JIM]

What is the reason for 260 losing ground that quickly to the 6.5? Still seems to be offered in quite a few rifles out there so it's not like any rifle manufacturers have dropped it.

The 6.5 CreedMoor has a MUCH SEXIER name then the BLAH 260 Remington ! :wink: lol RJ

[Rotorwash]

The Creedmore works better in short (2.8") actions such as the Rem 700, it's due to longer neck which accommodates long high BC bullets with out constraint.

The 260 shines in 'short' action rifles that are a bit more generous in length than the Rem 700 or many levers with the 2.8" length.

So , if you are using bullets up to 125-130gr the 260 and the Creedmore are virtually the same in the field. If you want to use a VLD or Berger Hybrid the Creedmore is better in the 2.8" action.

Good info!


Remington corlokt and federal fusions were all I could find in 260.
At the time I was shopping for rifle the only options were savages in 11 and 16 and tikkas.

Have to give it to the hornady marketing department. They sure did a good job.

[AgSilver]

I typed a long reply the other day but HBC froze up and it was all lost in cyber space. Short version - As good as the 6.5 Creedmoor is the 270 beats it at typical hunting ranges, at the expense of +25% more recoil. Mind you the 270 is pretty tolerable even in light rifles.

Alright-when you say "beats it"...what does that mean? Higher velocity at impact at shorter distances?

[hoochie]

I just ran some numbers, as I am very interested in the 6.5 as well. I currently shoot 270.
I found it interesting that the exact same bullet ( 140gr SST) has a BC of .520 in a 6.5 Creedmoor, but only a BC of .495 in a 270.
Looking at the max loads listed in the manual, I ran those numbers through a calculator.
max velocity 6.5 2725fps
max velocity 270 3000fps

At 100 yards, the 6.5 has 2026 ft/lbs VS the 2451 ft/lbs in a 270
at 300 (6.5) 1544 ft/lbs (270) 1864
at 700yrds, the 6.5 Creedmoor drops below the 1000 ft/lb, and hits with 852 ft/lbs, where the 270 is estimated to be 1020 ft/lbs

Trying to up the bullet weight to 150gr SST in the 270, only showed marginal improvement over the 140gr with a 700 yard hit of 1073 ft/lbs

According to these calculations, and based on a 100yr zero:
the drop at 700 yards is -135.6 for a Creedmoor
-110.8 for a 270

what? I may have just talked myself out of buying a gun omg

[AgSilver]

Asking because I'm learning lots still, so forgive if it's a stupid question...are those higher numbers mainly due to the longer cartridge? (i.e. more powder so more power)

[hoochie]

more powder, higher velocity.
BUT!
the 6.5 creedmoor has high BC bullets... its going to fly straighter in a cross wind.
All the hype of the 6.5, I was checking out rifles last week.. almost bought one. Really glad you asked the question.. it made me curious. I am sort of confused now. I thought the 6.5 was superior to the 270 and 270WSM... now Im thinking not for my purposes.
But, I really dont think i would even see a deer at 600yards! So less recoil would be sweet.

[twoSevenO]

Asking because I'm learning lots still, so forgive if it's a stupid question...are those higher numbers mainly due to the longer cartridge? (i.e. more powder so more power)

Well the 6.5 CM was never intended to compete with the 270. But yes, 270 will have more power and shoot a little flatter ... at the expense of larger and heavier ammo, and heavier recoil.

[AgSilver]

Got it...thanks gents.

hoochie...I'm with you. I was ranging some stuff out to 300+ yards recently and thought "I'm never going to shoot at something at 500". I'm pretty good with visually determining yardage from playing a good amount of golf over the years, but 400 yards doesn't seem so bad when you've got two shots to get there and your target is 20 yards wide...one shot into a 10 square inch (or so) kill zone and trying to factor in crosswind etc...that's less inspiring.

[speycaster]

I always carry a .416 Rigby, you never can tell when you might run into a Columbia Blacktail or a 200 lb Black Bear. :) Being under gunned is never a good idea. :wink: For less dangerous game I carry a 6.5X55 Husky.

[BCBRAD]

Personally if I were to hunt with a 260 Rem, I would be a Tikka.

Change the magazine for a 'long' action and alter the bolt stop.

This way you will have no constraints at all on COL......seat them VLD's and heavy bullets away out there thus gaining powder capacity in the process.

Tikka's are not sensitive ,in my experience, to seating depths or proximity to the rifling.

So, you end up with an accurate, fast 260/6.5mm plus all the other attributes of a cartridge that burns ~25% less powder than a 270 type cartridge.

Also, with practice and favorable conditions a 500 yard shot is very doable and a well placed shot with a 6.5mm bullet of proper construction will get the job done. Many clear cuts are 5-700 yards from the road in the middle to bush line, so assigning ones self to 300 yards will diminish opportunities.

[okas]

I haven't owned a 338 but I do carry a 35 whelen in a cooper excalibre. tonnes of power in a nice small rifle. I doesn't kill you with recoil either. Its pretty close to your 338 though.
A 30-06 with 200gr bullets is pretty good medicine. Also if your looking for a lighter calibre all together get 7-08, 6.5 creedmoor or a 308. they all make light handy little guns for packing around and they get the job done. i have the same gun plus a 25-06 but bought a Kimber accent in 308 :D but why ;)

[todbartell]

Alright-when you say "beats it"...what does that mean? Higher velocity at impact at shorter distances?

Apples to Apples, 6.5 Creedmoor would overtake a 270 Win at approx 1100 yards in impact velocity/energy, out to 2000y the 270 will always have a flatter trajectory due to its higher initial muzzle velocity (approx 250fps faster than the Creedmoor with same weight bullet) At 200 yards, typical hunting distance, the 270 would land with approx 300 ft lbs more energy

I'd still take the Creedmoor over the 270 for deer hunting. It's more than enough at any sane range. And I'd take the 280 Ackley over the 270 too :) nothing wrong with a 270 however, just a bit BLAH

[todbartell]

Personally if I were to hunt with a 260 Rem, I would be a Tikka.

Change the magazine for a 'long' action and alter the bolt stop.

This way you will have no constraints at all on COL......

Despite a 2.82" magazine box that forces the bullets to hide inside the case a little deeper, the 260 Rem can still kill shit! :mrgreen:

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/Blacktail_09_24_.JPG

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/1294285_10151732809092992_652011432_o.jpg

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/13Sept30_05_007.jpg

[twoSevenO]

nothing wrong with a 270 however, just a bit BLAH

... how dare you!?

[todbartell]

it came out in the 1920's like Fisher Dude!!!! :mrgreen:

[mulieaddiction]

So i went to look at a few guns and they now got me thinking between 270 and 30-06 to many opptions dunno what to pick ahhh

[MOWITCH SLAYER]

This is your chance to fill your gun cabinet ! Depending on what you are hunting you could always use a different caliber ! In my cabinet sits a 22,223,243,30-06,300 win. mag,45-70,and a 50 cal. bp. love them all but if i had to go down to one cal. it would be the 300 win mag. But that well not happen !!! LOL

[northof49]

For backpack/hiking hunting, my main style of hunting for 52 years now, I have most often carried a .338 and one can easily by built to 8.5 lbs or less on a good CRF action. This, is an appropriate and most effective tool for serious hunting and no harder to pack than most .30-06s or .270s.

When. you are alone and far from camp as dusk falls, a .338 is a HELL of a LOT more reassuring in your hands than some smallbore and is NOT hard to learn to shoot well.

Very good advice from BBD.....338mag in Mod 70 lightened up is also my go to for elk/moose and for all situations where Griz encounters are likely. For Muley hunting in the more friendly areas my choice is 270win with 140g accubonds. It is a fantastic deer caliber.

[northof49]

So i went to look at a few guns and they now got me thinking between 270 and 30-06 to many opptions dunno what to pick ahhh

Stainless Tikka T3 is good choice, or if you want lighter and have some extra cash to spend check out the Sako Mod 85 Finnlight

[todbartell]

Stainless Tikka T3 is good choice, or if you want lighter and have some extra cash to spend check out the Tikka Mod 75 Finnlight

Sako 85 Finnlight? http://www.sako.fi/rifles/sako-85/85-finnlight

[quadrakid]

I just love the moose and the mullet shot,priceless

[northof49]

Sako 85 Finnlight? http://www.sako.fi/rifles/sako-85/85-finnlight

Yup ....thx

[twoSevenO]

So i went to look at a few guns and they now got me thinking between 270 and 30-06 to many opptions dunno what to pick ahhh

Now you're just overthinking it ..... ANYTHING from 243Win to 30-06 will serve you just fine.

[Singleshotneeded]

Hey guys i got a big 338 win mag for hunting but as im getting into more hiking i am starting to notice its heavy for hiking hunts what guns do you guys use and recommend to use? Thanks

Get one of those lightweight stainless synthetic rifles like a Tikka/Sako and put lightweight rings and a 36mm Leupold scope on it, .308 or .270 Win or will do anything you need it to do in southern BC and the modest recoil works well with those light mountain rifles.

[Timberjack]

Sako 85 Finnlight? http://www.sako.fi/rifles/sako-85/85-finnlight

What's the word on the street regarding finnlight accuracy? Do they always live up to the 1" accuracy promise? My kimbers have the same guarantee, but one of them has been finniky to get that accuracy... I've been thinking of trying one out. 270 or 270 WSm would do for the hunting I do...

TJ

[BCBRAD]

What's the word on the street regarding finnlight accuracy? Do they always live up to the 1" accuracy promise? My kimbers have the same guarantee, but one of them has been finniky to get that accuracy... I've been thinking of trying one out. 270 or 270 WSm would do for the hunting I do...

TJ

I have a Finnlight in 30-06, last May at the Burns Lake R&G 1000 yard shoot it printed a 7+" 3 shot group at 1048 yds, groups tend to be in the 15" range for 5 shots. It has a 6x42 Leupold on it with a M1 turret.

[hoochie]

I found this video interesting. I have never seen a MOA guarantee, but these rifles shoot tight.
custom rifles, VS Xbolt.

http://www.browning.com/news/articles/moa-custom-rifles-vs-production-rifles.html

[Iltasyuko]

What's the word on the street regarding finnlight accuracy? Do they always live up to the 1" accuracy promise? My kimbers have the same guarantee, but one of them has been finniky to get that accuracy... I've been thinking of trying one out. 270 or 270 WSm would do for the hunting I do...

TJ


Ive never read the Sako accuracy guarantee but believe it is for 5 shots, not just 3.

My Finnlight .300wsm prints ragged holes at 100 metres consistently.

[HarryToolips]

Rem.700 .30-06....

[REMINGTON JIM]

I have a Finnlight in 30-06, last May at the Burns Lake R&G 1000 yard shoot it printed a 7+" 3 shot group at 1048 yds, groups tend to be in the 15" range for 5 shots. It has a 6x42 Leupold on it with a M1 turret.

Thats a SHOOTER that one ! Very IMPRESSIVE ! :smile: RJ

[Surrey Boy]

25-06 shoots flat and is widely available, can be used for varmints and big game, would nicely compliment your 338.

[260rem]

I shoot a Remington model 7 in 260rem and dropped everything from coyotes to bull moose without an issue.Loaded with 140gr it is accurate,very little recoil and a nice light package to carry.Also own 243,30-06,300wsm but the 260 always seems to be with me.

[Timberjack]

Ive never read the Sako accuracy guarantee but believe it is for 5 shots, not just 3.

My Finnlight .300wsm prints ragged holes at 100 metres consistently.

I've heard it's 5 shots as well... I sure would like to have a 270 cal finnlight.. I just want to be as sure as I can be on the accuracy thing before I drop a pile of dough... ragged holes at 100 is more than good enough. Nice!

TJ

[Timberjack]

what about your customers bartel? Any stories of bad accuracy or lemons coming out of the sako factory?

TJ

[todbartell]

not really, one guy has had his 30-06 Finnlight replaced 2 times because it won't group 5 inside 1.5" with any ammo.

[Knute]

not really, one guy has had his 30-06 Finnlight replaced 2 times because it won't group 5 inside 1.5" with any ammo.

Mr. Magoo?

[Timberjack]

How about the 270WSm in a finnlight? I shot a mod 75 in 300WSM and it had significant vertical jump. It really came up and hit your cheek. Don't know whether that was primarily the stock design or what, but way worse than any other 300WSm I've shot, including a fairly light rem ti in 300WSM I owned.. Anyone with any experience with these calibers in the two different rifles and how they compare?

I would expect the short 270WSM to be a fairly accurate caliber too eh? What have all of you experienced?

TJ

[hoochie]

Ive had a 300WSM and a few 270WSM. I currently shoot 270WSM.
recoil and jump seems to be based on stock configuration. I had a Browning Abolt in 270WSM that seemed to have more recoil than the 300WSM I would shoot at the same time. An Abolt had a much stouter recoil than a T3. However, an Xbolt takes a lot more recoil out and a 270WSM is pleasant to shoot.

If a gun recoils and comes up. hitting your cheek: there may be some correction made in the way you hold the firearm. Your cheek should be down against the stock and the recoil should be directed to your shoulder. If the gun is not firmly planted in the shoulder, this could be causing an increase in felt recoil.

Is a 270WSM accurate? yes.

[Timberjack]

Ive had a 300WSM and a few 270WSM. I currently shoot 270WSM.
recoil and jump seems to be based on stock configuration. I had a Browning Abolt in 270WSM that seemed to have more recoil than the 300WSM I would shoot at the same time. An Abolt had a much stouter recoil than a T3. However, an Xbolt takes a lot more recoil out and a 270WSM is pleasant to shoot.

If a gun recoils and comes up. hitting your cheek: there may be some correction made in the way you hold the firearm. Your cheek should be down against the stock and the recoil should be directed to your shoulder. If the gun is not firmly planted in the shoulder, this could be causing an increase in felt recoil.

Is a 270WSM accurate? yes.

I hear you on the cheek weld thing - the sako mod 75 in 300WSM was the only rifle I experienced that with, which was what lead me to the stock design thing... Thanks for the feedback.

TJ

[wsm]

I use a Winchester featherweight in 270 wsm . works real nice