Who Knows Big Buck Muleys ?????????

[Jelvis]

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[Hank Hunter]

Same old, Same old

[Fisher-Dude]

Lots of men end up with cougars when all the hot does are already taken. Does the same happen to muley bucks? 8-)

[bruin]

Correction 1. Doe's 2. Beer....... oh no wait 2. Grub 3. Watering holes

[GoatGuy]

I've never seen any big bucks out looking for cougars at the corrall, just young hunters????????

[Caveman]

Correction 1. Doe's 2. Beer....... oh no wait 2. Grub 3. Watering holes
Watering holes where you can find all of the above would be a good place to hang out. :wink: The young bucks are the only ones looking for a cougar, because the mature buck already knows those are the ones that usually have baggage :biggrin:

[Fisher-Dude]

I've never seen any big bucks out looking for cougars at the corrall, just young hunters????????

Hmmm, must be a youth season at the Corral.

I hope that no youth hunter has disadvantaged a mature hunter by utilizing hunting methods that could put a cougar on alert, and scare that cougar away from said mature hunter.

[hunter1947]

First of all you got to be in an area that supports big bucks ,secondly you have to catch them when there love sick.

[Will]

Big Bucks are always exactly where you find them............
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[Jelvis]

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[Will]

Well they certainly don't get to be "Big Bucks" in region 3 because they make habits of standing out in cuts during daylight in October.......FWIW I never really started to see "good" bucks until I began looking where others did not:-D
But I ain't no North River Jocko either ! :mrgreen:

[hunter1947]

If I was a Big Muley Buck, I'd want a hideout, somewhere where no hunters would dare to go either too lazy to walk or too steep for two legs, since I can live without eating for a long time, weeks on end I don't have to be worried about eating and can be aways from feeding areas. I do need water at some point. and certainly the does that are trying to get at me could give my spot away, so what does a big antlered buck do? Come out only after dark and get back in the hideout befor light? I would think. What have I missed hunters? Maybe get my back against a barrier and have an escape route planned out, so I can jump over and down the hill in the bush fast like. Jelvis Big bucks when in the rutting season go were they find love ,they don't hide out.

[Jelvis]

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[dana]

Dinks are the ones out chasin' pussy at all times of the day. A monster doesn't have too, the ladies come to him. Many a time he'll rut in the thickest gawd aweful jungle he can find. 99.9% of the time, he won't be out in the open for some road hunter to take a poke at him. Plain and simple, Big Bucks don't get big by being STUPID. They have learned many a trick by their old age. In this province the Best Mule Deer Hunters aren't the 2 legged ones with guns. If he has learned to live in the lions liar, not too many human hunter's are ever going to bother him.

[hunter1947]

I and some of my friends have connected on old mulies that are at the age group at 8 to 10 years old ,they did not have huge antlers but they were old and wise. these bucks were shot in mid to late nov out in the open just after sunrise.

[dana]

If they didn't have big antlers then they weren't dominate bucks. Big antlers are all for impressing the does. Size does matter.

[Jelvis]

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[hunter1947]

If they didn't have big antlers then they weren't dominate bucks. Big antlers are all for impressing the does. Size does matter. They did have good head gear 4 of them are all around 176 to 190. http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

[BCrams]

hunter - time to post those muley bucks. Can't lay claim like that without photo support.

[horshur]

It's all about calories and energy conservation--big deer are Lazy and fat at least a fair portion of the time.

[mark]

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[Caveman]

It's all about calories and energy conservation--big deer are Lazy and fat at least a fair portion of the time.

I'm starting to feel like a big buck :biggrin:

[Fisher-Dude]

But Mark, those are whities! :biggrin: Kinda looks like closing at the Corral when the odds get reallllllll bad for baggin a doe. :roll:

[mark]

FD the one in the middle has a little kicker out the back, it must be a hybred! :wink:

[Fisher-Dude]

Yep, Tinney would be shooting that one right out of the middle of the gangbang and usin' his muley tag! :biggrin:

[mapguy]

start hiking when you you can't hike no more wait for the big one

[hunter1947]

hunter - time to post those muley bucks. Can't lay claim like that without photo support. I did post mine in the gallery about 4 months ago ,take a look ,it scored 1765/8 ,it is in the BC record books ,i shot it out in the open around the headly area years back. As for the other 3 my friends they own them .

[Walksalot]

If the hunting season was to be closed during the rut most of those big bucks would never be seen. The difference between a early fall alpine hunt and a late season hunt is huge. In the early fall the animals are still scattered over the summer range but in the late fall they are more concentrated as they move to their winter range.
Mule deer have migration corridors from their summer to winter ranges and late fall snow storms seem to trigger movement. Knowing these routes and having the time to log the hours in search of a big buck and having the discipline to pass on smaller bucks is part of the recpie for success. I think some of those bigger bucks can survive at higher elevation and handle deeper snow than can some of the lesser animals. Mule deer bucks in the rut are nomads. They set out on a love them and leave them roady and they can cover a lot of country. I have a friend who worked in the wildlife section and the distance some radio collared bucks roamed was rather impressive.
Also, the antler growth is to some extent determined by genetics. While mineralization and food play a big part the blueprint for the size and shape of the antlers, to a large extent, has been predetermined in the genes.

[Jelvis]

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[hannibal]

If I was a Big Muley Buck, I'd want a hideout, somewhere where no hunters would dare to go either too lazy to walk or too steep for two legs, since I can live without eating for a long time, weeks on end I don't have to be worried about eating and can be aways from feeding areas. I do need water at some point. and certainly the does that are trying to get at me could give my spot away, so what does a big antlered buck do? Come out only after dark and get back in the hideout befor light? I would think. What have I missed hunters? Maybe get my back against a barrier and have an escape route planned out, so I can jump over and down the hill in the bush fast like. Jelvis

Dang straight! Heavy, ugly bush, where no quad or fat-*ss dares to tread. Look for big prints and big scat, then move real slow, then slow down some more. Also look for does, then look for the big fella hiding in the thick stuff near by. Does die first, they are the security system for the monster bucks, spook the does, you'll never even see the big guy.

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

Also when your hunting big muleys up above 5500 ft in the rocks you have to be so carefull not to show your self out on the open slopes.hell if it takes ya a couple extra hrs sneaking in the back door do it ,your chances improve big time on taking a big un,taking your sweet ass timegetting there and not making your self visible to them ,cause soon as that happens you most likely wont see him again that day.ive had it happen to me many times wathing the big ones bounce over the ridge and down in the trees.its what keeps me wanting to keep hunting big muleys.

[Will]

walk slow.hell crawl......big bucks are around every tree....at least I think so.don't forget to double back on your trail, big bucks like to backtrack when they think they are being followed.If you spook up a biggun and hear antlers ripping through the bush..don't get all bent. give a Burp or two, they will stop or so I'm told...watch the wind, very important ;that's all I have to say for now.
byebye:mrgreen:

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

Hey jelvis.those big bruisers are pretty dam smart.coulple of times when i thought i had them dead to rights.next thing ya know your sitting there wondering w.t.f.just happened .as the big buck dissapears over the ridge. concentrate on finding them bedded within 20 yrds of the top of the ridge on either side depending on what time of day it is or the weather will dictate what side they will likely be on .The bucks in early sept usually stay pretty close to a watering hole,over the yrs ive watched groups of bucks bed down in the alpine bowls and more times than not there is a watering hole not farfrom them usually within a couple hundred yrds .

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

another thing is i like to hunt solo whe im hunting the high country.even when there is a few of us ,we usually all go find a bowl to hunt.we seem to have better success when we go about it like that.less noise ,and less chances of gettin busted.

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

nothing like having a nap in the afternoon up on the rimrock after glassing for awhile,all by your self,not a care in the world,wake up and do the late afternoon glass .theres nothing quite like it.good stress releiver thats for sure.

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

depends on the weather for sure.the deer that hang in region 5 are usually all gone by oct 1st.then they usually take there journey towards the fraser river,but you will still pick them off in reg 3 up high . their not stickin around tho g razzing.their heads are down and they truck it right through .so if ya now the routes get set up high and wait for them to come by.the week of the 15th can be some dam good hunting . kinda cool watching them skyline themselfs coming over them ridges. The last couple yrs has been tough sledding up high where we hunt.had those nasty low fronts come in and snow like crazy,and ya know what its like hunting in fog and snow.not fun can get pretty nasty out there some days so be prepared to spend a night out in the cold,ya never know .

[frenchbar]

another good tip for the high country,be glassing that high scrubb about noon hour ive taken a few over the yrs about that time of day ,they sometimes like to get up to stretch and a lot of times they will change the spot they bed in.

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

When i was in my teens and early twentys , i missed out on getting some beauty muleys,from just being overly impatient,walking to fast making to much noise.now its the slow approach,takeing my time.its funny it took me a while to figure it out.lol

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

Hell your still just a young guy jelvis,hell my dads 75 yrs old and still spends 6 weeks in the fall out in the mountains.he taught me well.

[Jelvis]

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[Fisher-Dude]

When i was in my teens and early twentys , i missed out on getting some beauty muleys,from just being overly impatient,walking to fast making to much noise.now its the slow approach,takeing my time.its funny it took me a while to figure it out.lol

My favourite saying when hunting: "Walk little, see much". Once I figured it out, I saw much more than tails waving goodbye to me in the bush. :wink:

[dana]

The highcountry is one of the least hunted ecotypes of the province and it is the best place to have a chance at killing a monster. The big boys bach up and they live the charmed life. Fat and Sassy, soakin up the sun at the top of the ridges where the wind blows hard and keeps the bugs down to a min. They lay bedded like a sentry, watching for any danger. They know the wind works in their favor. To those hunters that venture above the treeline, most only get a glimpse of asses and antlers as they bail out of sight.
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[Jelvis]

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[Walksalot]

I hunt private property which is a major mule deer migration corridor. The first buck showed up in mid October but the latter showed up in mid December.


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[oscar makonka]

You BC guys over complicate things. All we do is fire up the tractor about half hour before dark and head out to the greenest corner of the alfalfa field and shoot the big dumb bugger when he lifts his head outa the salad.:wink::mrgreen:

[frenchbar]

You BC guys over complicate things. All we do is fire up the tractor about half hour before dark and head out to the greenest corner of the alfalfa field and shoot the big dumb bugger when he lifts his head outa the salad.:wink::mrgreen:Turning into a farmer are we oscar.:mrgreen:head lights on or off on that tractor.:wink:ya really have to get off the flatlands .

[Jelvis]

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[oscar makonka]

ya really have to get off the flatlands .

One of these years.....not sure I could walk uphill anymore:wink: maybe I'll come over in sept and spot for ya.

[frenchbar]

One of these years.....not sure I could walk uphill anymore:wink: maybe I'll come over in sept and spot for ya.

Any time oscar,ya always were a good spotter. 8)

[Jelvis]

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[Jelvis]

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[dana]

The biggest bucks are between 2000-2400 metres in elevation right now and they are thinkin' "Damn these bugs are bad this year"

[rollingrock]

The lazier, the bigger. The bigger, the lazier.

[Jelvis]

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[dana]

Jelvis,
Hard to find shade from pine trees in this day and age. If they chose to bed under a tree, it'll be in a small patch of some windblown, twisted up, stunted, subalpine fir. ;) I highly doubt they are thinkin about if their antlers are bigger or not. They will only care to keep in the wind or else those blood infested velvet masses on their heads will get rather itchy. :) I've watched big bucks totally loose it when it comes to bugs. I've seen them kick and buck and run and shake their heads. I remember one buck years ago, I caught out right at first light. He freaked some badly at the bugs, that he ran straight up the mountain, buckin and kickin as he stotted. I could not believe the elevation he gained in such a short timeframe. He broke out at the top of the basin and instantly I saw him relax and calm down. He had found the wind. He bedded right there and never moved all day.

[dana]

And as for frigid nights, I guess you've never been above treeline in the summer. Heck, last weekend I almost froze in my winter grade sleeping bag. The wind was just nasty. That light summer coat of theirs doesn't insulate as well as their winter coats. I've watched many a buck bed right out in the middle of a shale slide and soak up the rays.

[Jelvis]

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[dana]

Jelvis, still a couple of weeks away from the beggining of the hard horns. Have seen big bucks still in velvet as late as Sept 15, that's still a month away. As for the rut, you still have 3 months dude.

[Jelvis]

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[Paulyman]

Well personally, I think you should arrange a big buck poker game, i hear the big bucks like poker. I think they would come from miles around.

[Jelvis]

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[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

Hey jelly .any more things we should know about hunting muley bucks.onr thing ive found over the yrs is if ya spot a buck out side of the tree line more times than not there will be a bigger one lurking in the shadows.take your time and he might show himself.

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

Later in the season for sure a smaller buck useually hangs around a bigger buck for sure.they pick there spots to show themselfs. wait it out and they will show .

[frenchbar]

frenchbar you gotta know big buck muleys out there where you live location location location. Have you noticed that even in November a two point will follow a big dominant buck around as if to say I'm stickin with ya to learn where you go and how you do it. Like an apprentice learning from a journeyman. Thanx for the tip frenchbar I know your thinkin like a big buck muley Jelly Bar problem is the apprentice always ends up on the ground ,while the journeyman walks. most people cant wait it out.

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

Exciting time when you cant see the deer ,and the snortings going on , sure gets my addrenalin going thats for sure.keep em coming jelly.

[Jelvis]

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[eastkoot]

Jelvis, what kind of drugs are you on and where can we get some???

[dana]

A big buck certainly realizes the little bucks can work for his advantage. It starts in early summer, a big mature buck will form his bachelor group and he'll usually team up with more than a couple young bucks. They become his eyes and ears. Keeping him protected from danger. He'll actually let them 'take one for the team' when predators are around. He will push them out into an opening and then kick back in the shadows and see what unfolds before he is comfortable to expose himself. Many a time, when an early season hunter jumps the group of bucks, the big buck will hang tight and after all the shooting is done, he'll sneak out the back door.
Come the late season, he'll accept several young bucks to hang out with his harem of does. He knows they aren't much of a threat when it comes to breeding. He'll hang back in the timber and let them tend his does for him. With their eagerness, they push and test the does and actually are doing the foreplay. When the smell of actual estrus hits the air, the big boy walks in and gets the job done. And then, back to the timber again.

[frenchbar]

Funny how animals work in senseing danger .ive found that mountain sheep act much the same .ive watch sheep go over the top of ridges and the Ram never goes first .its useually a couple ewes that go first and the ram will useually be the 3rd one to go over most times ive witnessed anyway.

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

If you hunting in tandem on a uphill running ridge .its allways a good plan to have your partner stay neer the bottom while the other slowly makes his way to the top .i jumped a 5 pt muley above me on a ridge one day and it circled off to the left and made its way back down below me and ran right into my bud who who was still hunting near the bottom of the ridge.Buck almost ran right into him.shot him at 15 ft.was a dandy buck to boot.

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[frenchbar]

Cant forget that day.was one hell of a grunt draggin it back to the truck.lots of sweat but well worth it .he took 3rd place in the big buck contest that yr.

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

Any more big buck thoughts jelly bean .your pretty quiet tonight:mrgreen:

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[rock]

Dinks are the ones out chasin' pussy at all times of the day. A monster doesn't have too, the ladies come to him. Many a time he'll rut in the thickest gawd aweful jungle he can find. 99.9% of the time, he won't be out in the open for some road hunter to take a poke at him. Plain and simple, Big Bucks don't get big by being STUPID. They have learned many a trick by their old age. In this province the Best Mule Deer Hunters aren't the 2 legged ones with guns. If he has learned to live in the lions liar, not too many human hunter's are ever going to bother him.
Couldn't of said it any better, myself I always look for the thickest cover then go from there.

[Jelvis]

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[BigBanger]

Im new to hunting this year and wanted to say thaks for sharing this awesome info . Cant wait to get out there . Ive been to lazy , way to lazy and thats why i got skunked . Hunting with buddy draging his feet isent going to happin anymore.
Thanks Guys

BB

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

Afteroon jel.oct 15 to the 30th .key on the tree covered ridges at the 3000 to 4000 ft level..take your time creeping through the trees.couple steps ..stop look listen.. they love the thick stuff that time of the yr.

[Jelvis]

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[frenchbar]

Scout the same ridges in the summer ..find the bedding areas and take note of where the main trails to the watering holes..catch em in the morning on there daily commute.

[Jelvis]

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[Islandeer]

hey Jelvis, looks like we are gearing up for the muley limpics!! I am going high,early. what about October, dead time for the big guys,the calm before the storm. Hunt the in between areas,or stay high as long as you can.

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[Islandeer]

I need some O2,and quick!!!:eek::eek:

[Jelvis]

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[horshur]

Jelly. You a Ford man or Chevy?? Fastest time chaining up? Which tire size is best for late season up high? Tall and skinny eh.
How long do your chains last?...two years? how long to chain up...couple minutes?
Seen a Chevy 1/2 ton parked right next to the stump my boy used to shoot his nice buck in September....In December.
Were the wolves running at the top? female cougar track in the block she walked down the road a ways.

[Jelvis]

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[Will]

Big Bucks is where one finds them.....up mountains 99.9% of you won't or can't climb....this I know....Jelvis the last BIG buck came outta fishtrap 5 years ago;)

Nothing in there now but does, quads and chevys........:p

[Jelvis]

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[Will]

Behind Oconner is the spot anyways around here right? Where the huge bucks are really at. See ya in the threads Jel Inskip
Yep I was blessed to see the pics of that 225..........:eek:
He was very Noble indeed.......:wink:

[Jelvis]

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[johnk]

COMMON ( AUTUMN FOODS ) for Mule deer > during the fall hunting season are creeping barberry, bearberry, snowberry, snowbush, snowberry, jack pine, sagebrush, pine, cedar, poplar, quaking aspen, serviceberry, cliffrose, needlegrass, gramagrass, paintbrush, bitterbrush, rabbitbrush, fescuegrass.
Yes, Jelvis. Usually I'll prepare those salad ingredients and serve them on a pilaf of apple and potato chunks!

[Jelvis]

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[1899]

Two points:
No predator can outrun a mulie uphill; and
They like to bed in a position where they can watch for predators - that means you can see them too.

These are just my opinions, as I am FAR from a mulie expert.

[Jelvis]

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[winbuckhunter]

If they didn't have big antlers then they weren't dominate bucks. Big antlers are all for impressing the does. Size does matter.

size doesn't matter at all....... its all the attitude!! if a smaller buck is meaner and stronger it will jab the big one in the ass and chase him away!! speacially with muleys.... some of those big old *******s dont get laid at all.. they're worn out.. thats just my opinion

[Jelvis]

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[The 'Hummer']

Two points:
No predator can outrun a mulie uphill; and
They like to bed in a position where they can watch for predators - that means you can see them too.

These are just my opinions, as I am FAR from a mulie expert.
Probably correct for the most part but on two occasions I've seen a Grizzly 'pouring on the coal' going up hill and I wouldn't bet against him.

[Jelvis]

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[Little Hawk]

Great thread! I'm learning lots. Sadly, I didn't get to learn from a seasoned muley hunter like a father; trial & error with my equally ignorant hunt'in bud's...

Keep it comin' Dude's!

[Jelvis]

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[guest]

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[johnk]

Jellyfish, I hope, for your sake, hunting season gets here quick or I am afraid you may just split your wig!:biggrin:

[Jelvis]

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[browningboy]

I know muley big bucks!!
Answered your question.:cool:

[Jelvis]

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[MOWITCH SLAYER]

The big boy's are there. It's just that they are smart.Smarter than most two legged hunters.And have outsmarted a lot of four legged hunters. you have to put in the time (dawn to dusk time). The rut is the best time (nov.) Watch the does, sit and wait and wait some more.I have watched a big old buck stand in the tree's (for what seemed like hours ) before he came out to check a doe. I have followed big tracks for hours in the snow. He chased does all night and is bedded up in some dark corner getting ready for dusk GOOD LUCK AND REMEMBER YOU HAVE TO LET THE LITTLE ONES GO TO GET A TRUE MONSTER

[Jelvis]

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[thatskindafunny]

Big muleys are like women, just when you have them figured out they do something else. Remember always expect the unexpected.

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[Foxtail]

Can I have the co-ords?... I promise I won't go there... I just wanna look:lol:

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[Foxtail]

Friends of ours have a cabin in Mile High. Go up there sleddin occasionally... I know greenstone well.

[Jelvis]

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[husky30-06]

the first four I ever got was a tough one...... I always tried to sneak up one side of the ridge and creep up on him...but bythe time I crested the ridge I could hear him heading down the other side into the thick stuff. day after day I did this trying everytype of wind and many approaches..... How i final caught up with him was this........I was heading up as usual but this time i decided not to hunt for him (a little discouraged after the 12th time or so) so I creasted the ridge else where and travelled the ridge looking for someone else. I came accross this big doe and she was big..... I glassed her and everywhere around her and spotted a deer. It was a small two point...... My thought was that she was way to big for him the big guy had to be around somewhere. I watched and watched for about a half hour..... pissed off again I crashed my way back along the ridge heading back for the truck and I looked to my right and there was a deer beded down behind this tree, I glassed and sure enough HE WAS A BIG FOUR. I lined up and fired, he never even uncurled from his bed...... I finally got him. I talked to my dad about it and he told me thatmy grandpa used to shoot many deer in thier beds....even though he was very noisy in the bush. My dad never figured it out......SOOOOOO???????

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