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hunter1947
01-03-2016, 06:02 AM
This is a picture of a Hydatid Cyst in a elk's lungs. This is very dangerous to humans. If you witness this in your elk, moose, or deer, take a picture, and notify me immediately. Do not handle the animal, or cut the cyst. You are in extreme danger. Wolves brought here from Canada are spreading this throughout the entire Western U.S. Your game agency knows about the extreme danger, but they refuse to inform you. This disease will also continue the cycle to other animals, including livestock or your dog.

Blaming Canada for this disease is a little far fetched I would think..



http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/430613_522188577793171_150760346_n1.jpg

.264winmag
01-03-2016, 09:46 AM
I take it this is a U.S. post off the web? Kinda scary. Usually tough to examine what's left of lungs after lead poisoning. Will pay more attention now.

Keta1969
01-03-2016, 09:56 AM
Been around for awhile. http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=disease.internal4

greybark
01-03-2016, 10:10 AM
Would confined winter yarding , winter feeding and baiting exacerbate this and any other disease in this case Elk ?
Cheers

HarryToolips
01-03-2016, 11:09 AM
What will it do exactly to humans?? what if you field dress your animal with latex gloves??

M.Dean
01-03-2016, 11:28 AM
I say we poison every bloody wolf in North America! I for one would sooner be eating a nice Elk roast with mashed potatoes and gravy than listen to a wolf pack howling cuz there eating a Elk well it's still alive! If some bleeding hearts want to see wolves, tell'm to go rent a Disney Movie!!! "Wolf Cull", it's got a nice Ring to it, don't it!

Ride Red
01-03-2016, 11:49 AM
Tapeworms and hydatid disease;

The term ‘tapeworm’ describes a group of parasitic worms that live in the gut of animals, including humans. These infestations are found worldwide. They can be caused when humans consume raw or undercooked animal products that contain worm larvae (for beef or pork). Humans can also become infested after close contact with animals like cats and dogs.

In Australia, the most serious locally acquired form of tapeworm infestation is caused by the hydatid tapeworm (Echinococcus granulosis or E. granulosis), which can infect dogs and dingoes, particularly in sheep farming areas.

A person who comes in contact with the faeces of an infected dog (that is, when eggs from the tapeworm are passed in the faeces) may develop hydatid disease. This is serious and potentially fatal. Infection with tapeworm eggs causes cysts to form in vital organs such as the liver and lungs.
Life cycle of a tapewormThe tapeworm needs two hosts to complete its life cycle:

Intermediate host – such as sheep, pigs, cattle, goats, horses, camels, wallabies and kangaroos. Infection begins when the grazing animal eats dog or dingo faeces infected with tapeworm eggs. The eggs hatch in the animal’s gut into embryos (called oncospheres). These embryos penetrate the wall of the intestine and are carried in the bloodstream to vital organs such as the liver, lungs or brain, where they can develop into watery ‘blisters’ called hydatid cysts. These cysts contain around 30 to 40 tapeworm heads (the first segment of the tapeworm). A mature fertile cyst may contain several million such heads.
Definitive host – such as dogs and dingoes. Infection begins when the animal eats offal that contains hydatid cysts. The swallowed cysts burst and the tapeworm heads travel to the gut and attach themselves to the intestine wall. The tapeworms are mature after about six weeks. An adult E. granulosis tapeworm is only six millimetres long. Thousands can inhabit the gut of an infected animal. Each mature worm grows and sheds the last segment of its body about every two weeks. This last segment contains immature eggs. The eggs are passed from the animal’s body in faeces and may stick to the animal’s hair or contaminate the vegetable garden. The eggs are highly resistant to weather conditions and can remain viable for months. The eggs have to be swallowed by an animal (intermediate host) to form hydatid cysts.

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Infection in humansHuman infection does not occur from eating infected offal. People usually become infected by accidentally swallowing the tapeworm eggs passed in dog faeces. A human acts as an intermediate host in the same way as a sheep, horse or kangaroo. The eggs travel through the bloodstream, lodge in organs and form watery cysts full of tapeworm heads. This is known as hydatid disease or echinococcosis. Hydatid disease is not contagious and is not passed by person-to-person contact.
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Symptoms of hydatid diseaseThe symptoms of hydatid disease depend on which organs are affected. The most commonly affected organ is the liver. The kidneys, brain and lungs are sometimes affected. In rare cases, hydatid cysts may form in the thyroid gland or heart or within bone.

Symptoms can occur a long time after infection, sometimes months or years later. Sometimes there are no symptoms at all. If they occur, symptoms may include:

stomach upset
diarrhoea
unexplained weight loss
swollen abdomen
anaemia
weakness and fatigue
cough
blood or the fluid from a ruptured cyst – may be coughed up
jaundice – pressure from an enlarging cyst may cause jaundice.

Hydatid disease can be fatal without medical treatment. A heavily infested organ may fail or a cyst may rupture and cause a life-threatening allergic reaction (anaphylaxis).
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Diagnosis of hydatid diseaseDiagnosis of hydatid disease may include:

medical history
physical examination
x-ray examination
ultrasound
CT scan
MRI scan
examination of blood, urine, sputum, faeces or other bodily fluids if a burst hydatid cyst is suspected
blood tests for antibodies to the cysts.

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Treatment for hydatid diseaseSurgery is the main form of treatment for hydatid disease. A risk of surgery is that a hydatid cyst may rupture and spread tapeworm heads throughout the patient’s body. To reduce this risk, the doctor may prescribe high doses of the drug albendazole in conjunction with surgery. This drug helps to destroy any remaining tapeworm heads. However, risk of disease recurrence is high. About one in three people treated for hydatid disease develop the condition again and need repeat treatment.
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Preventing infection from tapewormsBoth phases of the tapeworm’s life cycle must be broken in order to prevent infection. Suggestions include:

It is important to control tapeworm infection in domestic dogs. Infected dogs usually don’t have any symptoms. Don’t assume that your dog isn’t infected just because it seems happy and healthy.
Regular preventive deworming of dogs is important, especially in rural areas where dogs may have access to animal carcasses.
Take your dog to the vet for diagnosis and treatment (if necessary) for tapeworm infection. Treatment includes regular dosing with anti-tapeworm medicines.
While your dog is undergoing treatment, dispose of its faeces carefully. Wear rubber gloves. Incinerate or bury deeply all dog droppings for at least three days. Wash your hands thoroughly after disposing of dog droppings.
Thoroughly clean and disinfect the kennel and surrounding area.
Always wash your hands with plenty of soap and water after touching your dog. Instruct children to do the same. Supervise small children when they wash their hands.
Wash hands before eating, drinking and smoking and after gardening or handling animals.
Only feed your dog with commercially prepared dog foods.
Do not feed raw or cooked offal to your dog. This includes offal bought from a supermarket or butcher.
Be especially vigilant if you are a sheep or cattle farmer. For example, keep your dog fenced or on a lead when it is not working to prevent it from eating carcasses.
Do not allow your dog to roam when holidaying in country areas.
If you grow your own vegetables, fence your vegetable patch to make sure that pets and wild animals can’t defecate on the soil.

Chopper
01-03-2016, 12:05 PM
wow ... ill probably lose some sleep tonight

high and to the right
01-03-2016, 02:08 PM
This is a picture of a Hydatid Cyst in a elk's lungs. This is very dangerous to humans. If you witness this in your elk, moose, or deer, take a picture, and notify me immediately. Do not handle the animal, or cut the cyst. You are in extreme danger. Wolves brought here from Canada are spreading this throughout the entire Western U.S. Your game agency knows about the extreme danger, but they refuse to inform you. This disease will also continue the cycle to other animals, including livestock or your dog.

Blaming Canada for this disease is a little far fetched I would think..



http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/430613_522188577793171_150760346_n1.jpg

So why is the person in the picture putting his hands almost on the cyst and under it in the cut so he can push it out? Why is he not wearing gloves? Is this another global warming myth. lol

Chopper
01-03-2016, 03:11 PM
So why is the person in the picture putting his hands almost on the cyst and under it in the cut so he can push it out? Why is he not wearing gloves? Is this another global warming myth. lol

I have the same question ...

IronNoggin
01-03-2016, 03:14 PM
I have the same question ...

It is not transmitted through the skin. You would have to rupture the cyst, then lick your hands clean to pick it up.

Used to be a rather serious problem in many Arctic Communities.
Education helped that a lot.
Still exists, but if you are aware, it can be avoided.

Cheers,
Nog