Yalakom road blockade?

[Banjo]

FYI.....

First nations group is building some sort of camp on the yalakom road. They had militant flags saying "take action" and they are using cones and vehicles parked at an angle to slow the traffic to a stop. When I went up Thursday I stopped and asked a girl if this was a hunting camp and she replied "better". She quizzed me on what I was doing and when I was coming back. Coming out today there were many more people giving ugly stares. I didn't stop this time. They also had a doe in the tree. They seem to be building wood frame buildings right on the edge of the road.

Haven't heard of any possible blockades but the turn off onto the yalakom describes it as "unneeded St'at'imc territory.

Anyone know what's going on?

[finngun]

Did ya tell them...make peace..not a war? Ugh i ve spoken:wink:

[guest]

One law for all ...... Any one else does this they get thrown in jail. Where is a politician with some balls to finally stop this BS. How pathetic ! What else do they want ? More money shuts them up for a short while ...... Then theyre back, more more more. When's the CRAP STOP !

[180grainer]

Go down the road a mile and set up a blockade and don't let them get back to town.

[whitlers]

What a bunch of clowns

[Stroodle]

I was out there in about the August long weekend. They were building it then, typical FN building project, might see it take shape at the end of the year! It was at about the 50km marker? They stopped us then claiming it had something to do with forest fire awareness. We thougt it would continue into hunting season. Guess it has!

[Banjo]

They had a framer hard at work. They also has some sort of mineshaft/bunker in the hillside that was enclosed. Looked pretty cool

[300H&H]

I was out there in about the August long weekend. They were building it then, typical FN building project, might see it take shape at the end of the year! It was at about the 50km marker? They stopped us then claiming it had something to do with forest fire awareness. We thougt it would continue into hunting season. Guess it has!

They are just waiting for funding from the Government to come thru, then watch out...they will double the construction project and have 2 tee-pees !

[okas]

they are getting bad and get away with anything ..... the RCMP and COs are scared of them ...

[Looking_4_Jerky]

The Williams case (Tsilhqot’in Nation court ruling) will start an avalanche of this kind of stuff. Every nation will be going for the land grab, and the road map for how to get it has been laid out for them.

[Ambush]

A large group should do just as 180 suggested. Get organized, set up camp, take shifts and blockade them in. Wood stoves in a tarp town.

If for no other reason then to see how long it takes the authorities to order the dismantle of a "white peoples camp".

At least we could finally answer, definitively, the question of "...how long do you think the blockade would last if whitey tried that?".

Then confront the media to report the obvious inequity. Stir up some shit or just bellyache about the injustice of it?!?!

[Banjo]

A large group should do just as 180 suggested. Get organized, set up camp, take shifts and blockade them in. Wood stoves in a tarp town.

If for no other reason then to see how long it takes the authorities to order the dismantle of a "white peoples camp".

At least we could finally answer, definitively, the question of "...how long do you think the blockade would last if whitey tried that?".

Then confront the media to report the obvious inequity. Stir up some shit or just bellyache about the injustice of it?!?!

I'd man a shift at this camp

[srupp]

I would also man a shift.
Srupp

[kevan]

I would also man a shift.
Srupp

Count me in too...

[Ride Red]

Sounds like fun, when do we start?

[Ambush]

Well then somebody from the area get organizing!!

It won't likely be a long commitment either. Probably be ordered taken down pretty quick. But it might end up getting ordinary people talking about the one sided treatment.

Heck, if you supply some hotdogs and transportation, you can probably move a "homeless" camp out there. They can tent anywhere they want.

Seems like it's just you and me that can't.

[Banjo]

I found this link to their cause...specifically the blockade. Blocking access to hunters is not one of their stated goal...it's the logging that they say they are against.

https://warriorpublications.wordpress.com/2015/04/13/statimc-re-occupation-aims-to-stop-logging-call-for-support/

Seems like it's been going on since the spring but they are doing some serious building up there right now. Girl in the red bandana beside the chief in his video was on site.

Let's hope they run no interference with hunters

[kevan]

Sounds like fun, when do we start?

Just as soon as BgBlkDg shows up..... he'll want in for sure !!

[Gateholio]

From the link, they want to block logging that will impact a heritage site. I don't see a real issue with that, it's not uncommon to protest destroying any heritage site, from any culture. Who wants industry to destroy their history? Nobody.

[Banjo]

From the link, they want to block logging that will impact a heritage site. I don't see a real issue with that, it's not uncommon to protest destroying any heritage site, from any culture. Who wants industry to destroy their history? Nobody.

Yeah I've got no problem with that either. It is a beautiful valley and from up high it looks like there has been very little logging.

[J_T]

A suggestion. Im sure there are other user groups that might want to participate in the awareness campaign. Make some calls to others.

[honeyman76]

You know, the irony of this is that Aspen Planers is located on the Cayoosh Creek Indian Reserve which also employs people of the Stla'atl'imx Nation. I would love to know how a person can afford to stay at a road block for 6 or 7 months and still pay their bills?? Are they on EI whats the deal? I have a family and there is no way I can afford to leave my job to hang out in the woods.
On another note, forestry has come a long ways and I think they have done a decent job at making it renewable.

[itsy bitsy xj]

They are just waiting for funding from the Government to come thru, then watch out...they will double the construction project and have 2 tee-pees !

And a casino/hotel

[SWD]

Sounds like another poacher camp!
Take action co and government or will they let it slide again.
Welcome to bc land of no balls!

[juiceterboost]

I am a Lillooet local and have been stopped and talked to these individuals. They are blocking one road to stop the proposed logging in the area after a road was pushed through a archaeological site in their opinion. Yeah they will stop you and ask some questions but their note taking and documentation has also assisted in catching a poacher.

They are building a cabin and plan on remaining on site through the winter. I really don't think that this camp is necessary but in no way did they interfere with my hunt nor the hunt of anyone in my camp. There are most certainly worse camps and protests out there.

[Bugle M In]

I am a Lillooet local and have been stopped and talked to these individuals. They are blocking one road to stop the proposed logging in the area after a road was pushed through a archaeological site in their opinion. Yeah they will stop you and ask some questions but their note taking and documentation has also assisted in catching a poacher.

They are building a cabin and plan on remaining on site through the winter. I really don't think that this camp is necessary but in no way did they interfere with my hunt nor the hunt of anyone in my camp. There are most certainly worse camps and protests out there.

So, how's the hunting been round and in Yalakom these days??
Been years since I've been in there, is the road still pretty sketchy in places??

[juiceterboost]

Road is sketchy in spots. Hunting has been slow in there as of late lots of wolf sign wherever the deer or moose are hanging out. Wolves actually killed a deer about 100-150 yards from our camp. Our group was able to take two bucks out with us but lots of ground needed to be covered on foot and in trucks for sightings. The deer are there just have to work for them.

[Bugle M In]

Road is sketchy in spots. Hunting has been slow in there as of late lots of wolf sign wherever the deer or moose are hanging out. Wolves actually killed a deer about 100-150 yards from our camp. Our group was able to take two bucks out with us but lots of ground needed to be covered on foot and in trucks for sightings. The deer are there just have to work for them.
Thanks for the reply....I assume the sheep aren't doing so well still.

[juiceterboost]

I don't target the sheep so not really an expert but the numbers we run into are definitely down. I did see one 3/4 and a half curl in the Nine Mile sheep closure though.

[swampthing]

So, it sounds like they are letting hunters through?? I was thinkin of makin a run that way mid November.

[juiceterboost]

yep with the exception of junction creek the road they are blocking, hunters can come and go as they please. they just ask that you slow down going through the camp area.

[Carrollizer]

juiceterboost, where exactly is Junction Creek road? I was planning on going up West Pavilion road.
Any idea if they're around that area or are they strictly on the Yalakom road?

[juiceterboost]

Strictly on the Yalakom the west pavilion is all free and clear. Junction Creek is around the 50km on the Yalakom.

[Carrollizer]

Good to know,
I was wondering why when I was there in September I didn't see them building a camp. turns out I was not even close to where it is.
Since you said you're a local to Lilloet, would you recommend going up W Pavilion or Yalakom?

[olympia]

I am a Lillooet local and have been stopped and talked to these individuals. They are blocking one road to stop the proposed logging in the area after a road was pushed through a archaeological site in their opinion. Yeah they will stop you and ask some questions but their note taking and documentation has also assisted in catching a poacher.

They are building a cabin and plan on remaining on site through the winter. I really don't think that this camp is necessary but in no way did they interfere with my hunt nor the hunt of anyone in my camp. There are most certainly worse camps and protests out there.

Finally a guy that just gives you the straight goods instead of talking g out his azz about the "Indian rebellion", *we should do something" but won't ever.

[Crawfy42]

Just to update everyone on this situation- I was up there this past weekend on a bear hunt, we camped at beaverdam. We didn't see them on the first day, but on the second day they came to our camp. The older lady and young woman showed up and started grilling me and my buddy. Telling us it's bow only season, bear hunting is Steven Harper BS, threatened to have us removed if we aren't doing things the right way. The most unsettling part of it was she admitted through what she said... They snooped through our camp the previous day when we were out hunting... Saw a coloured paper wrapper in the fire pit. She then tells us not to burn plastic and take everything out with us (ok fine and dandy but when you drive by their camp, it looks like a bomb has gone off. Plastic everywhere. Foamies. Garbage everywhere... Ect) the older lady also asked to see our hunting liscenses, and we showed them, really trying to be courteous and nice (really hard to do). So to sum it up, it seemed like a peaceful harassment with underlying tones of threatening to remove us if we didn't do things their way. Now I've researched them a bit, it seems to me like they are "rebels" from their own tribe as their own tribe isn't even sanctioning what they are doing. Anyways, we have a family camping trip there may long weekend, we will see how that goes.

[wideopenthrottle]

Just to update everyone on this situation- I was up there this past weekend on a bear hunt, we camped at beaverdam. We didn't see them on the first day, but on the second day they came to our camp. The older lady and young woman showed up and started grilling me and my buddy. Telling us it's bow only season, bear hunting is Steven Harper BS, threatened to have us removed if we aren't doing things the right way. The most unsettling part of it was she admitted through what she said... They snooped through our camp the previous day when we were out hunting... Saw a coloured paper wrapper in the fire pit. She then tells us not to burn plastic and take everything out with us (ok fine and dandy but when you drive by their camp, it looks like a bomb has gone off. Plastic everywhere. Foamies. Garbage everywhere... Ect) the older lady also asked to see our hunting liscenses, and we showed them, really trying to be courteous and nice (really hard to do). So to sum it up, it seemed like a peaceful harassment with underlying tones of threatening to remove us if we didn't do things their way. Now I've researched them a bit, it seems to me like they are "rebels" from their own tribe as their own tribe isn't even sanctioning what they are doing. Anyways, we have a family camping trip there may long weekend, we will see how that goes.

I am glad you are sharing this info so people like me can avoid the area....I would not have tolerated what you did...I nearly screamed when I read your post...

[RiverOtter]

No way I'd show some random my hunting licence, my home address is written in it.....

[Crawfy42]

No way I'd show some random my hunting licence, my home address is written in it.....

Wideopenthrottle- you have no idea how hard it was to hold back. It was not easy.
And I agree river otter, I wasn't worried about that at all and am still not... Side note - it was 8 am and they reeked of booze. I'm actually looking forward to going up there again after knowing more about what's going on from researching. These people were so clueless to anything and everything.

[2tins]

Wideopenthrottle- you have no idea how hard it was to hold back. It was not easy.
And I agree river otter, I wasn't worried about that at all and am still not... Side note - it was 8 am and they reeked of booze. I'm actually looking forward to going up there again after knowing more about what's going on from researching. These people were so clueless to anything and everything.
I'm not sure that I could have contained myself the way you did. I tip my hat to you. Anyway, are you guys talking about the Big Bar Lake road and the Beaver dam Lake up there?

[wideopenthrottle]

Wideopenthrottle- you have no idea how hard it was to hold back. It was not easy.
And I agree river otter, I wasn't worried about that at all and am still not... Side note - it was 8 am and they reeked of booze. I'm actually looking forward to going up there again after knowing more about what's going on from researching. These people were so clueless to anything and everything.
kudo's for looking at it as a humourous situation...now that you added that detail, I think I may have just laughed it off too...I probably would have shown them a grocery receipt or something when they asked to see my license......funny thing is when I first wrote my reply to you, I was thing of that stereotype...two drunken "blueberry blonde ladies" but then defaulted to two well groomed "keepers of the land"... more funny than annoying to me now

[RiverOtter]

Wideopenthrottle- you have no idea how hard it was to hold back. It was not easy.
And I agree river otter, I wasn't worried about that at all and am still not... Side note - it was 8 am and they reeked of booze. I'm actually looking forward to going up there again after knowing more about what's going on from researching. These people were so clueless to anything and everything.
I sure hope it was their booze and not booze they absconded from your camp, or else you be guilty of BAITING my friend.........:-P

[okas]

The more i look into all this :idea: i understand where they are coming from and going too . As the 25000 new Canadians ?????

[swampthing]

I went through last November. An older native woman accompanied by a couple younger tree planter lookin white dudes stopped me. She asked what I was up to and I told her huntin. I then asked her what she was up to and she told me she lived there and wanted to know who was on her land. I told her I planned to hunt "crown land", not her land. She asked to see my license and tags. I told her I had it and only a proper authority was allowed to view that. She was nice to me and tried to offer some hunting advise. I could see one of the white dudes writing my plate down. When I drove out the next day no one was there.

[Norwestalta]

I sure hope it was their booze and not booze they absconded from your camp, or else you be guilty of BAITING my friend.........:-P

Funny story of two friends of mine drinking with some of the locals around slave lake while fishing. To make a long story short the natives out drank my two buddies and when they passed out they took what was left of their booze, boat motor and chain saw. Still makes me laugh when they were telling me their story.

Sorry for for the derail.

[squamishhunter]

Nice part about living in N. bc, natives don't have enough gas to get back where I go to block roads.

[ve7iuq]

What we're up against is that about 75% of city people will back the Natives in any such situation.
Every journalist you talk to will be on the Native's side.
The vast majority of politicians will side with them.
Worst of all is almost every case that goes before the supreme court ends in their favour.

The whole Native thing is probably the biggest problem facing Canada, and most people don't know it!

[huntcoop]

Nice part about living in N. bc, natives don't have enough gas to get back where I go to block roads.

Moral of the story being tax free gas only goes so far.

[honeyman76]

I went through this Check Stop on Sunday at the 50km mark. They had the road narrowed down to single lane traffic. A structure on the road and rocks. Needless to say, we weren't let through until we showed our hunting licenses. I can't say more, but I have gone to the RCMP and possible criminal charges are now pending. We shouldn't have to be going through something like this and be accosted. Its Crown land that everyone one of us has a right to enjoy. That includes First Nations, Caucasians, chinese etc etc. The signage is quite clear Yalakom Forest Service Rd British Columbia.

[Bugle M In]

I went through this Check Stop on Sunday at the 50km mark. They had the road narrowed down to single lane traffic. A structure on the road and rocks. Needless to say, we weren't let through until we showed our hunting licenses. I can't say more, but I have gone to the RCMP and criminal charges are now pending. We shouldn't have to be going through something like this and be accosted. Its Crown land that everyone one of us has a right to enjoy. That includes First Nations, Caucasians, chinese etc etc. The signage is quite clear Yalakom Forest Service Rd British Columbia.

good for you!!
maybe you should paas along the detachment you called into and the officer you left the report with.
that way, when other's go in, and have the same problem, they can also contact the same people.
wouldn't hurt to have a "go pro" running and recording also.

[Xenomorph]

wouldn't hurt to have a "go pro" running and recording also.

I got a 360 camera in my truck for that exact purpose.

[Surrey Boy]

they are getting bad and get away with anything ..... the RCMP and COs are scared of them ...

As if LEOs have any integrity . . .

Don't be so naive.

[Carrollizer]

Anyone know if they have this road blocked again?
Ideally I'm aiming to get as close to the end of this road as possible.

Thanks in advance!

[Kevin So]

it's still there as of nov 17, 2020.

[edgar11]

What we're up against is that about 75% of city people will back the Natives in any such situation.
Every journalist you talk to will be on the Native's side.
The vast majority of politicians will side with them.
Worst of all is almost every case that goes before the supreme court ends in their favour.

The whole Native thing is probably the biggest problem facing Canada, and most people don't know it!

Oh Man, I can't believe you wrote this!!
Let me tell you a story, you have your far right wingers ,and then, you have your far left wingers and somewhere in between, you have EVERYONE ELSE!!!! LOL
Which one do you think you are?
You can't write this stuff!!! Too funny.

[Tuffguy]

Drive through the road block frequently. We have a camp drilling at the Elizabeth Mine site. The "Guardians of the Land" as they prefer to be called visited the site and gave a blessing. They are peaceful and just like to know who is visiting and coming in and out. I asked the lady who we usually check in with about hunting (as being in the Shulaps I have hopes of getting that sheep draw) she just said be respectful. Their primary objective is geared towards logging. When you drive through, they have deer hanging and hides everywhere. See frequent hunters. That being said, if I was specifically hunting in an area and found someone going through my camp I would lose it. They can't prevent us from hunting. Anyway for anyone going up there, the road is sketchy but is supposed to be maintained while we're working there. Best of luck!

[REMINGTON JIM]

Is it Indian reservation land or public land ? RJ

[Bugle M In]

Drive through the road block frequently. We have a camp drilling at the Elizabeth Mine site. The "Guardians of the Land" as they prefer to be called visited the site and gave a blessing. They are peaceful and just like to know who is visiting and coming in and out. I asked the lady who we usually check in with about hunting (as being in the Shulaps I have hopes of getting that sheep draw) she just said be respectful. Their primary objective is geared towards logging. When you drive through, they have deer hanging and hides everywhere. See frequent hunters. That being said, if I was specifically hunting in an area and found someone going through my camp I would lose it. They can't prevent us from hunting. Anyway for anyone going up there, the road is sketchy but is supposed to be maintained while we're working there. Best of luck!
While hunting CC last season, i spoke to a CO from Lilloet.
He said it is just a woman who is recording Lic Plate #'s, nothing more, and that they are not blocking access and you can go hunt.

I can respect that.
Seems like there should be recordings of all vehicles in all roads in the province with some of the BS going on, imo.
So, unless something has changed, it isnt a blockade like we hear in other areas of the province.
Just be kind, smile, say hello and have a nice day.

[swampthing]

Is it Indian reservation land or public land ? RJ

Its public land. As said they dont stop anyone but loggers. More of an entertainment to see them than anything. The people there are both native and hippies

[Walking Buffalo]

While hunting CC last season, i spoke to a CO from Lilloet.
He said it is just a woman who is recording Lic Plate #'s, nothing more, and that they are not blocking access and you can go hunt.

I can respect that.
Seems like there should be recordings of all vehicles in all roads in the province with some of the BS going on, imo.
So, unless something has changed, it isnt a blockade like we hear in other areas of the province.
Just be kind, smile, say hello and have a nice day.


In this global socialist day and age, this is exactly what governments and corporations intend to do.

With this mindset, it will be reality very soon that everybody's every step will be monitored.

Individual freedom is dead.

[Bugle M In]

In this global socialist day and age, this is exactly what governments and corporations intend to do.

With this mindset, it will be reality very soon that everybody's every step will be monitored.

Individual freedom is dead.

Unfortunately, it is "human nature" to be greedy.
(look at C-19 and mass rush to buy up stuff)

So yes, monitoring to some degree is the future.
Get rid of humans "inherit greed" and then we can talk about how to disassemble the need to monitor.
But yes, you are right, big brother is watching.

But, i have no issues if natives want to record the coming and goings (as long as they record themselves as well).
That far less worse then having a blockade where they think they can stop us hunting.

[Walking Buffalo]

Unfortunately, it is "human nature" to be greedy.
(look at C-19 and mass rush to buy up stuff)

So yes, monitoring to some degree is the future.
Get rid of humans "inherit greed" and then we can talk about how to disassemble the need to monitor.
But yes, you are right, big brother is watching.

But, i have no issues if natives want to record the coming and goings (as long as they record themselves as well).
That far less worse then having a blockade where they think they can stop us hunting.

Should Natives be tracked when they enter the city?

[MichelD]

That check-in point doesn't bother me. They were very pleasant when I came by.

[Bugle M In]

Should Natives be tracked when they enter the city?
You know, i am not going to get into a pissing match over it.

Sadly, i dont agree with the traditional territory BS and all the things starting to develop from it which appears that the FN want to start to stop
any non FN from entering or what we can do etc.
In that regards, eventually some are going to get hurt on both sides of the fence, as it wont stop me or others like me.

But, if this agreement is going to exist, and if the FN want to record vehicles coming and going, then so be it.
If they feel that helps them protect their land from abuse, then so be it.
Hell, i just mentioned in another thread some of the abuse going on by a few hunters around CC.
So, they record a few plates coming and going.
If someone is doing bad shit, at least they have some idea of who it is.

And you know what, hopefully they record some of "their own" coming and going.
Maybe they might realize that a few of theirs aren't so great either.
( if they are not, then they are being fairly prejudicial, and not really helping the end game of things and betterment of wildlife #'s)

Anyways, it doesnt bother me.
If it bothers you, then i suppose you have 2 choices.
Dont go, or "run her/them over"!

[Walking Buffalo]

You know, i am not going to get into a pissing match over it.


And then you whizz all over.

Hope you feel better after your boots dry.

[Bugle M In]

And then you whizz all over.

Hope you feel better after your boots dry.

Look, you and me are on the same page as far as a lot of the FN bs goes and traditional territories and blockades go.
So no use bashing against each other.
Just a waste of time, imo.

As one said to me, "you have to choose your battles".
In this case, does a native women writing down plates really matter all that much?
Yes, I get your point that we don't write their travels down.

But, no one is stopping you from hunting there.
Which is a lot different then some of the other areas in the province where "Stopping us from hunting" is.
Those are the battles worth fighting and matter most.
Fighting this one isn't going to achieve much.
If those other blockades were only a matter of writing plates down to protect the area from say illegal activity, then that
is a compromise "I can live with", but maybe not the next guy.
But to me it is a far better solution, imo.

As for whizzing on my pants.....
No worries...…
I wear Gore Tex!!
Like water off a ducks back.

[weatherby_man]

Look, you and me are on the same page as far as a lot of the FN bs goes and traditional territories and blockades go.
So no use bashing against each other.
Just a waste of time, imo.

As one said to me, "you have to choose your battles".
In this case, does a native women writing down plates really matter all that much?
Yes, I get your point that we don't write their travels down.

But, no one is stopping you from hunting there.
Which is a lot different then some of the other areas in the province where "Stopping us from hunting" is.
Those are the battles worth fighting and matter most.
Fighting this one isn't going to achieve much.
If those other blockades were only a matter of writing plates down to protect the area from say illegal activity, then that
is a compromise "I can live with", but maybe not the next guy.
But to me it is a far better solution, imo.

As for whizzing on my pants.....
No worries...…
I wear Gore Tex!!
Like water off a ducks back.

Not sure what rainbow bridge youre on but you should see one thing clearly affects the other in your post. You let them away with an infringement and its game on and open for any infringement.

And,,,,,even with goretex you would still smell like piss......LOL.

[Bugle M In]

Not sure what rainbow bridge youre on but you should see one thing clearly affects the other in your post. You let them away with an infringement and its game on and open for any infringement.

And,,,,,even with goretex you would still smell like piss......LOL.
Well, it smells a whole lot better then a "pants full of shit" from being scared of one little old FN lady.
Besides, smelled a whole lot worse after a week in the woods.
And its not like my Lic. Plate # is top secret, only plastered on my front and back bumper for the world to see.

Honestly, some of you folks with your 1200$+ iphones looking like hotshots should worry more about that and all the personal info on those and your
habits that can be retrieved by god knows who, and the fact that your phones ping constantly to give your every location by the minute, if you dont
have your gps's on, so as to remember where the hell you are while driving or your nearest tim hortons location.

What, once she has your plate number, does she flip open her laptop and have access to DMV and your records??????
Don't think so.

Anyways, the OP Heading is a bit misguided.
It isn't a blockade to stop anyone who is interested in going into yalakom to hunt.
Not yet anyways.

Crackin myself up seeing a few grown men so worried about a little old lady.
And then i ask, "what you going to do about it"?????
Haven't heard a reply or answer to that.
What, call the RCMP???
Just remind you all, the supreme court judge on the Douglas Ranch road access criticized the RCMP for catering to the Ranch and "pussy footing" what
they knew was wrong by what the ranch was doing for years, and did nothing.
Already seen that the CO's dont do dick either where FN are involved.
So???? what u going to do i ask again.

Me, if she is letting me pass and records my plate, so be it.
Maybe if i am not a prick, act polite, then maybe i need not worry that it gets worse then that.
And if it does, and really gets blocked.....well, just add that road to the list i suppose.

In that case, i might as well wait for the "earth is flat believers" to come up with a solution.
After all, they have all the answers dont they!

[Hunter gatherer]

I have stopped and talked with her multiple times. Always a pleasant encounter. She is actually doing some good out there. I've had worse encounters with the CVSE lol

[weatherby_man]

Well, it smells a whole lot better then a "pants full of shit" from being scared of one little old FN lady.
Besides, smelled a whole lot worse after a week in the woods.
And its not like my Lic. Plate # is top secret, only plastered on my front and back bumper for the world to see.

Honestly, some of you folks with your 1200$+ iphones looking like hotshots should worry more about that and all the personal info on those and your
habits that can be retrieved by god knows who, and the fact that your phones ping constantly to give your every location by the minute, if you dont
have your gps's on, so as to remember where the hell you are while driving or your nearest tim hortons location.

What, once she has your plate number, does she flip open her laptop and have access to DMV and your records??????
Don't think so.

Anyways, the OP Heading is a bit misguided.
It isn't a blockade to stop anyone who is interested in going into yalakom to hunt.
Not yet anyways.

Crackin myself up seeing a few grown men so worried about a little old lady.
And then i ask, "what you going to do about it"?????
Haven't heard a reply or answer to that.
What, call the RCMP???
Just remind you all, the supreme court judge on the Douglas Ranch road access criticized the RCMP for catering to the Ranch and "pussy footing" what
they knew was wrong by what the ranch was doing for years, and did nothing.
Already seen that the CO's dont do dick either where FN are involved.
So???? what u going to do i ask again.

Me, if she is letting me pass and records my plate, so be it.
Maybe if i am not a prick, act polite, then maybe i need not worry that it gets worse then that.
And if it does, and really gets blocked.....well, just add that road to the list i suppose.

In that case, i might as well wait for the "earth is flat believers" to come up with a solution.
After all, they have all the answers dont they!

I can agree with some of your points, the one about iPhones especially and its why I don't take my cell phone hunting. In fact I'm thinking of just getting rid of it altogether. In 30 years of having one its never saved my life or done anything but suck a lot of money out of my pocket.

I dont think anyone should be blocking any road in this country, thats where we dont agree I guess. Its a slippery slope and one things for certain, when you give special interest groups an inch they will reach for the mile.

[Bugle M In]

I can agree with some of your points, the one about iPhones especially and its why I don't take my cell phone hunting. In fact I'm thinking of just getting rid of it altogether. In 30 years of having one its never saved my life or done anything but suck a lot of money out of my pocket.

I dont think anyone should be blocking any road in this country, thats where we dont agree I guess. Its a slippery slope and one things for certain, when you give special interest groups an inch they will reach for the mile.
I agree with you as well on not having any sort of blockade.
But, it is what it is right now currently.
Being a dick to this woman and telling her to F'off is not going to result in anything good.
If anything, next time you go up, we might then encounter a full on blockade with a bunch of band members assisting her in blocking the road to hunting.
Then what????
Where is the money going to come from to fight this legal battle???
Who is going to fight it????
(after all, many have walked away from bcwf already, so what other Org is going to fight this???)
And even if that all happens, and the outcome is in our favor (as it should be), it would be 20-25 years before that road opens again.
Only have to look at the DR vs Nicola R&G battle to see how long such things take.
I will be dead by then, so that is why i suggest to be kind to the woman in "this case".
Not happy to have to be stopped, but i would accept that sort of blockade over the ones we already have where we cant get access right now unless
folks start showing up in huge convoys to "fight our way thru physically".
(which ultimately is what i see happening and it wont be a great outcome for either side).

The other thing, and maybe why i am a bit more passionate on this thread is recent event in Cache Creek.
Poaching and a deer left to fully rot while another was only partially taken, as i assume hunter shot a small buck only to see a large buck right after,
so shot both.
CO's cant do dick, didnt even bother to climb up to retrieve evidence.
So, in the end, that prick (and i think i know who it is now), got away with it.
So, a little old lady recording plates isnt necessarily the end of the world.
IF there was someone that had done the same up in CC, maybe more would have come from it.

Sometimes a thing that looks so outwardly negative can actually have some positive benefits if we look at it differently.
Lets just be glad it isnt closed to hunting.
And lets figure out how to approach/change the roads that are being blocked to hunting, imo.

[Walking Buffalo]

Bugle,

When you get it back in your pants, put the water down, go back and re-read my post #60.

You are so far off target.
Every drop is soaking your fuzzy bunny slippers.

[Bugle M In]

Bugle,

When you get it back in your pants, put the water down, go back and re-read my post #60.

You are so far off target.
Every drop is soaking your fuzzy bunny slippers.
Bunny Slippers?????what are those????
Something you hide in your own closet?
Maybe that's why your so afraid of being watched.....don't want anybody to see the real you perhaps?

Anyways, let me know when you rectify the world of "surveillance". (don't think that is going anywhere).
I guess it is only okay when one hangs a bunch of cameras up in the woods to surveil deer???
And, as past posts, no answers from you on how you wish/will to end the blockades.
Me, i don't worry about it all that much as i don't have much to hide.