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luger
07-21-2015, 09:40 PM
What out of the box rifles are 1 moa at 100 yards guaranteed rifles?
These are the ones i know of, Tikka t3 , any sako, Weatherby vanguard s2, winchester model 70.
Anything else?
Is there any Remingtons that are guaranteed?

604ksmith
07-21-2015, 09:42 PM
i believe the Rem 700 sendero is, as well as the browning x bolt

REMINGTON JIM
07-21-2015, 09:44 PM
Winnys never shoot MOA they pattern there loads ! lol :shock: RJ

BgBlkDg
07-21-2015, 09:59 PM
Horse Shit, only a FORD driver would spew such bullcrap!!!! Probably drove a Pinto back in the day!

TARCHER
07-21-2015, 10:06 PM
I can tell you I did barrel break in on my Nosler Patriot 26 today after owning it for 1.5 yrs. It is a tack driver. Last 4 shots 3/4 moa. I had 6 shots previous, 4 being near 1/2 moa then phuked it up as I almost scoped my forehead. I will say it kicks up there with my 300wsm.

walnutz
07-21-2015, 10:15 PM
What distance do they base it on when they guarantee this?

Salmon Belly
07-21-2015, 10:18 PM
I don't think Browning guarantees MOA on x-bolts but both of mine shoot under an inch at 100 yards -- stainless stalkers, one in 270wsm other 338 win mag.

SB

Barracuda
07-21-2015, 10:26 PM
most any modern hunting rifle shoots MOA with quality ammunition nowadays

hoochie
07-21-2015, 10:29 PM
Browning Xbolt carbon fiber in 270Win 150gr Sierra Game king
6 shots in .535" shot off bags at 100yrds. They may not come with a guarantee, but it speaks for itself.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy284/mrmabley/Mobile%20Uploads/20150422_180420_zpsh5kvtbec.jpg (http://s800.photobucket.com/user/mrmabley/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150422_180420_zpsh5kvtbec.jpg.html)

TARCHER
07-21-2015, 10:40 PM
Hey I'm not one to fall for the MOA guarantee shit. I bought a Nosler 48 when they first came out. It was a sweet gun. The only reason I bought the 26. The best rifle I ever owned and still have is my steyer model M professional 270. So I ordered this 26 nosler thru Nechacko outdoors going to the shot show in Vegas. Took awhile to get ammo an the powder etc. So today, first time I ever did a "barrel break in". Couldn't believe how well it was going, long story short I was punching, touching holes. That's with nosler factory ammo. Trust me, I'm not advcocating nosler but I'm happy and an say this rifle is very accurate. Details to follow

Drillbit
07-21-2015, 10:57 PM
What distance do they base it on when they guarantee this?

Here, read this

http://www.rifle-accuracy-reports.com/minuteofangle.html

BiG Boar
07-22-2015, 12:07 AM
I know 10+ hunters. I don't know one of them who has returned a rifle from not meeting the guarantee. I think it's BS.

P-17
07-24-2015, 11:52 PM
What out of the box rifles are 1 moa at 100 yards guaranteed rifles?
These are the ones i know of, Tikka t3 , any sako, Weatherby vanguard s2, winchester model 70.
Anything else?
Is there any Remingtons that are guaranteed?

I'm skeptical of any guarantees, even though the Tikka, Sako and Weatherby rifles are all excellent.

Guaranteed in what way, and with what ammunition -- and for how many consecutive shots?

I can tell you that I have a custom target rifle that I use for competition. It will easily shoot 1/2 m.o.a. for 15 consecutive shots... as long as you feed it the load that it likes (a handload that took me a long time to work out). Other loads are garbage in this rifle.

I've also got an ancient military Mauser .30-06 that shoots 3/4 m.o.a. consistently, all the way out to 600 metres, for about the first 4 or 5 shots, as long as I feed it the special load that it likes.

From these experiences, I believe that any decent, modern bolt action has the potential to shoot 1 m.o.a. for THREE shots, as long as the stock/bedding are sound and you are feeding it ammo that it likes. I also believe that the "guaranteed" rifles will also shoot terrible groups if you feed them ammunition that they don't like.

Therefore, in my opinion, the accuracy potential of a rifle is more complicated than a simple "guarantee" posted in an ad. If you are planning to buy a rifle, you should probably speak with an experienced shooter to discuss your criteria, your plans, and your realistic expectations.

BCBRAD
07-25-2015, 07:31 AM
Over the years I had many Remington 700's, few would shoot 1" at 100yds mostly get an 1.25" at 100 for 3 shots. All the Remingtons are gone now, replaced with two Sako M85's both do 5 shots in an inch at 100m, a Savage Model 12 LRP will print 0.88" 5 shot at 200m on a good day, a Tikka heavy barrel 0.75" at 200 meters most anytime, a Tikka Varmint 223 Rem will put 10 shots in less than an inch at 100.
There is a common thread here.

HarryToolips
07-25-2015, 08:13 AM
Over the years I had many Remington 700's, few would shoot 1" at 100yds mostly get an 1.25" at 100 for 3 shots. All the Remingtons are gone now, replaced with two Sako M85's both do 5 shots in an inch at 100m, a Savage Model 12 LRP will print 0.88" 5 shot at 200m on a good day, a Tikka heavy barrel 0.75" at 200 meters most anytime, a Tikka Varmint 223 Rem will put 10 shots in less than an inch at 100.
There is a common thread here.
Just using a simple bi-pod I can get sub 1" moa with my Remington 700 on a good day where I feel I'm shooting well..did you try the Remington Core-Lokt ammo? This along with Federal Fusion is what mine shoots best..

DerAlbertaner
07-28-2015, 11:50 PM
Man I have a Model 70 featherweight (my first 'real' rifle) and the guarantee made me optimistic but I've never been able to squeeze past 1.5-1.75 moa with any of the factory loads I've tried. As its a hunting rig I'd rather it group decently with a few different options than be too picky but I was a little put out.