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Junmity
07-16-2015, 03:14 PM
Give em up!

I've got an old school small but heavy chainsaw that's a bitch to start.

I was fine with it till I went to visit my folks in Ukee and my dad pulled out his sthil and poof two pulls!

hare_assassin
07-16-2015, 03:31 PM
Love my Echo CS-400!

Light. 2 pull start (maybe 3 after it sits all winter). Easy to maintain.

Modded the muffler and it rips like a 50.

Steeleco
07-16-2015, 03:39 PM
Had my MS170 Sthil for years, they are stil under $200 IIRC and worth every cent.

scretch
07-16-2015, 03:43 PM
Had my MS170 Sthil for years, they are stil under $200 IIRC and worth every cent.

Times 2-great little saw!

barry1974w
07-16-2015, 03:51 PM
Those little sthils are great saws, and seem to come on sale with a case, spare chain and some other stuff a couple times a year.

Iron Glove
07-16-2015, 03:56 PM
Have the "little Sthil" albeit with easy start or whatever they call it as I'm old. :cry:
Bought the Son-In-Law the "regular" one a couple of years ago for Xmas, it was @ $198 with all the extras.
We love our Sthils. :wink:

ramron
07-16-2015, 03:57 PM
There are only two saws worth owning, husky and stihl.

toad
07-16-2015, 04:16 PM
[QUOTE=ramron;1659959]There are only two saws worth owning, husky and stihl.[/
AMEN!!!!!!!

Buck
07-16-2015, 04:25 PM
Have a newer small 240 Husky it was not a good choice.When it gets hot it starts to bog not enough grunt basically a tree branch trimmer i have considered throwing it away.Nothing smaller than the Rancher series for me.

coast 1
07-16-2015, 04:27 PM
The small 50+ cc huskys are a tuff little saw that can bounce around on a quad or truck and not start breaking parts off do to the way they are made.i run a husky for a living they bounce off rock bluffs on a regular occourance you just hike back down there pick them up ad go back to work

FourOhs
07-16-2015, 04:37 PM
This thread's title had me going in an entirely different direction.

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plumberjustin
07-16-2015, 04:42 PM
I've got zero complaints with my Stihl ms250. Small enough to to pack around, large enough to handle whatever you need to cut. Fresh gas, old gas, warm or cold, starts second pull every time

mikeboehm
07-16-2015, 04:46 PM
i use a shindaiwa 488. model year is 1988 and still starts on 2 pull. excelllent power as well

ditch donkey
07-16-2015, 04:49 PM
have 3 lil 170 stihls in the family and only good things to say about them

scoutlt1
07-16-2015, 04:52 PM
I've packed my years old little Husky 141 around for a long time.
Have always been able to cut my way past any deadfall I've come across, and always had firewood.
Just my $.02 :)

Squirrelnuts
07-16-2015, 04:56 PM
Don't discount Echos. Really, really good saws (and they come with a 5 year warranty).

hare_assassin
07-16-2015, 05:08 PM
There are only two saws worth owning, husky and stihl.

Said the guy who never used an Echo.

Buck
07-16-2015, 05:38 PM
Said the guy who never used an Echo.


Agreed Echo and Shindaiwa make good saws.I have a Shindaiwa pro hedge trimmer nice machine.

blaine
07-16-2015, 06:13 PM
I have 2 saws, one is a Homelite 45cc with 18 inch bar that kicks ass, I also have a cs400 Echo that cuts like a dream.

randymac
07-16-2015, 06:19 PM
stihl 009 on the quad
stihl MS230 for camping firewood
stihl ms310 for the winters firewood
finding a stihl at a garage sale that won't start because the carbs gummed up-priceless

goatdancer
07-16-2015, 06:23 PM
When I saw the title I had to read what it was all about. I kinda had thoughts of " what grain of bullets work best " .

Ferenc
07-16-2015, 06:25 PM
Own an old stihl wood boss 028.. Never let me down.. So easy to work on and a ton of videos on youtube to do tune ups on it .. It's old but it still rocks.

browningboy
07-17-2015, 06:40 AM
A stihl farm boss I think it's call an 056 I believe, awesome saw, cuts like a dream and don't own any small saws

Squamch
07-17-2015, 07:12 AM
If you're just cutting a little firewood for camp, wall tent poles, and maybe the odd log across a road-stihl 200T. It's a top handle climbers saw, but the little *******s are TOUGH, run like Bruce Jenner to a media appearance, and are nice and light to pack.

mooze
07-17-2015, 07:26 AM
times 3, occasionally come as a deal with box, extra chain etc.

sed8ed
07-17-2015, 07:37 AM
Stihl, MS-170/180 for a small saw to pack around. I keep a 180 on the front of my quad with a little 11" bar... cut through a 24"+ tree that had fallen across the trail with that saw and she had no problems.

MS-361 for anything else...

LYKTOHUNT
07-17-2015, 07:46 AM
Those little sthils are great saws, and seem to come on sale with a case, spare chain and some other stuff a couple times a year.
Yup I bought one, it works great for a little saw. I might be wrong but I think most of the little saws are made off shore or by some other manufacturer even the little Husky I looked at was not actually made by Husky but the little Stihl was made by Stihl

Zedbra
07-17-2015, 07:56 AM
Stihl, MS-170/180 for a small saw to pack around. I keep a 180 on the front of my quad with a little 11" bar... cut through a 24"+ tree that had fallen across the trail with that saw and she had no problems.

MS-361 for anything else...

I have the Stihl 180 - many people in this area have them. A little step up from the 170 where it has a tool less adjustable bar, EZ start, and a metal (the 170 has a plastic) bucking teeth.

Echos do not have a good name around here, where a lot of mountain bike trail builders are always using saws. Sure, they have a 3 year warranty, which seems to be needed, and their corporate response when it burns out is "you must have used the wrong gas". Maybe they'd be fine if you just need it for the odd tree, but not for lots of continuous work.

B.C.Boy(100%)
07-17-2015, 08:53 AM
Own an old stihl wood boss 028.. Never let me down.. So easy to work on and a ton of videos on youtube to do tune ups on it .. It's old but it still rocks.

I have one also, great saw, mine has been electrocuted, on fire, front half of muffler fell off one day and I kept running it (sounded like my 3120xp walkerized) kinda cool but seriously loud.
Runs a 20"bar, this saw rocks, I use it ten times more than the 365 or 372.
I have used the 346xp and in my opinion they're not even in the same class as the 028wb, the wood boss leaves it in the dust.

For trails or packing I use my Stihl 201T, wish it was a 200T, short, no rear handle for added length, weighs less than 9lbs and has the torque to get things done, and being an arborist saw they sip on fuel while ripping the heck out of the job.
That's the saw that will be coming with me on my trip this year.

ruger#1
07-17-2015, 09:40 AM
Yup I bought one, it works great for a little saw. I might be wrong but I think most of the little saws are made off shore or by some other manufacturer even the little Husky I looked at was not actually made by Husky but the little Stihl was made by Stihl The small Husky's are made by poulan. Same as sears.

Mudzbogger
07-17-2015, 04:25 PM
I don't have a budget for multiple use saws so went with a stihl 291, 16" bar fits nice on the quad, cuts like no tomorrow and if I need bigger I put on the 20" bar and chain it came with... nuff said.

Salmon Belly
07-17-2015, 04:44 PM
I picked up the Stihl 170, 16" bar during that really good Stihl sale in June, was $199 down from $250 I think. Not sure if sale is still on. Compact, works great. Ideal hunting chainsaw IMO.

http://en.stihl.ca/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws-and-pole-pruners/Gas-chain-saws-for-property-maintenance/2212-110/MS-170.aspx

SB

hardnocks
07-17-2015, 05:07 PM
those little stihls are ...echos LOL

curt
07-17-2015, 05:46 PM
you wont go wrong with a sthil or a Husqvarna easily the best 2 saws out there sthil 170 goes on sale usually 199 tough to beat for a small camp saw perfect for carrying on atv too

longstonec
07-17-2015, 06:07 PM
372 husky. usualy leave the 090 at home. hehe

markomoose
07-17-2015, 06:54 PM
OK-I Know I"m gonna get trashed but 8 years ago I bought a Poulan "WILD THING" from African Tire.I have owned some great saws since then but this ol beast starts first or second pull and rides on my quad and never lets me down!! Alright bring it on!! I have thick skin!!

swampthing
07-17-2015, 07:22 PM
It takes a real man to run a poulan. Especially a "wild thing".

Ferenc
07-17-2015, 07:28 PM
Ok .. I know you bought it just to get the stickers that came with it. : )

Husky7mm
07-17-2015, 07:39 PM
OK-I Know I"m gonna get trashed but 8 years ago I bought a Poulan "WILD THING" from African Tire.I have owned some great saws since then but this ol beast starts first or second pull and rides on my quad and never lets me down!! Alright bring it on!! I have thick skin!!

I believe you, my brother in law has been abusing one for years and never had a problem. I had a poulan farm hand ( their largest saw) for 10 years and never did anything other than put mix and bar oil in it.
Now that I am a surveyor in the north I see husky 357's and the newer replacement 562. Both are professional saws but start with a 20 inch bar. They are very light for how much power they have. Once you have a saw like that you will not want to use a toy saw for anything. Full wrap handle, heated carb and handle and still pretty light. Blast through whatever is in your way, chicken louie! They start around $850 but run for 1000's of hours, worth every penny imo

Buckmeister
07-17-2015, 07:45 PM
Here is my original 55 Rancher Husqvarna that I have had now for about 10 years or so. Good saw, light weight. straps easily to my quad rack. 3 or 4 pulls on full choke till it sputters, then kick choke off and one more pull and she comes to life. Pictured here with my Timberline chainsaw sharpener. I think this saw is in it's 4th or 5th generation now.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/medium/IMG_0529a.jpg

LYKTOHUNT
07-17-2015, 08:08 PM
I believe you, my brother in law has been abusing one for years and never had a problem. I had a poulan farm hand ( their largest saw) for 10 years and never did anything other than put mix and bar oil in it.
Now that I am a surveyor in the north I see husky 357's and the newer replacement 562. Both are professional saws but start with a 20 inch bar. They are very light for how much power they have. Once you have a saw like that you will not want to use a toy saw for anything. Full wrap handle, heated carb and handle and still pretty light. Blast through whatever is in your way, chicken louie! They start around $850 but run for 1000's of hours, worth every penny imo

Chicke louie you say , I thought I was the only guy in the world that new what what Chicken Louie meant, for those not in the know Chicken Louie means effin fast and Chicken effin Louie means even faster

Husky7mm
07-17-2015, 08:25 PM
Chicke louie you say , I thought I was the only guy in the world that new what what Chicken Louie meant, for those not in the know Chicken Louie means effin fast and Chicken effin Louie means even faster
Haha, I like it!

358mag
07-17-2015, 08:29 PM
Take a look at a Husky 550XP with a 18"-20" bar buy it once buy it right

HarryToolips
07-17-2015, 09:48 PM
Love my poulan chainsaw...I just keep poul-in it and poul-in it and the bit$h won't start.....

Moose Guide
07-17-2015, 10:48 PM
I have a
-small butter knife Homolite
-240 husky
-028 stihl woods boss(cuts most of my wood every year)
-2051 jonsered
-034 stihl
-2079 makita
-066 stihl
I fix and sell saws but the stihls are my favorites, at the mill we use the new ms 270!

Johnny G1
07-17-2015, 10:58 PM
Can't beat my ole XL1s that I have had for 30+ yrs. still good saws to this day. for heavy work an 036 stihl that is still new.

wideopenthrottle
07-18-2015, 06:16 AM
There are only two saws worth owning, husky and stihl.

amen times 3

wideopenthrottle
07-18-2015, 06:56 AM
there are better choices than using a chainsaw to hunt...heheheh couldn't resist

ruger#1
07-18-2015, 07:35 AM
amen times 3
I own a refurbished Poulan WildThing for $89. Bought it a couple of years ago. It has cut down a lot of maple. And I still use it. I should of bought two. Had a husky 41. And it was made by Poulan. The pro series husky's are not made by Poulan.

Billyisgr8
07-18-2015, 07:49 AM
If you are only going to buy brand new get a Dolmar....they invented the chainsaw, cheaper cause they dont advertise so you wont pay the marked up price of Husky and Stihl. Bought my 79cc for $850 with a 24" bar! Everyone that has ever tried my Dolmar, are impressed cause all they ever have run is stihl and husky, cause thats what all the stores carry, thats all any one knows, dollar for dollar you cant beat Dolmar. I have cut enough cords of wood to go through 4 chains already since 2008. zero problems.

http://www.dolmarpowerproducts.com/productcatalog/chain_saws_gasoline/index.html

tigrr
07-18-2015, 07:57 AM
This is the one. MS170
http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/Images/Product/525/ms170.png?preset=Product.ProductSelector

riflebuilder
07-18-2015, 08:42 AM
I he way to many saws but teh one on the SxS is a Hus 240

ruger#1
07-18-2015, 08:50 AM
I he way to many saws but teh one on the SxS is a Hus 240 What. To early to be drinking.

bcsteve
07-18-2015, 09:35 AM
I have a Husky 365 Spl that I bought used for a good price. Runs awesome. A bit bigger than necessary but I also use it for my Lewis winch where the extra power comes in handy.

ultramafic
07-18-2015, 01:04 PM
I have a 25 year old husky 55 still runs and cuts like the day I bought it been through a couple of chains, used it to saw my deck off my old house through the nails and screws, been hunting almost every year for that 25, and cuts firewood for the house every summer/fall all I have to do is buy the gas mix and chain oil.

Cant say anything bad about it takes a beating every year and keeps asking for more. Only problem I ever had with it was when I took it in for a "tune up" should never have done it cause it ran with no issues up to that point but had to go back for a "second" tune up cause the first guy set the RPMS too low and it wouldn't cut like crap, once it was reset was right back to cutting...

If I was to get another saw this one will have to kick the bucket in some way and it would probably be a pro series husky again but a few sizes bigger.

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc378/ultramafic/CAM00074_zpsugnzjqxy.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/ultramafic/media/CAM00074_zpsugnzjqxy.jpg.html)

mike

MichelD
07-18-2015, 01:44 PM
I've got a Husqvarna 60 with no kickback safety handle I've had about 35 years. My wife had it in for a carb kit about 10 years ago as a gift and it still cuts like a beaver. I've worn out more chains than I can count as I lived on 10 acres for 8 years and burned wood.

I've got a borrowed Stihl 017 I want to tryout. It's smaller. Is that the older version of the MS 170?

ruger#1
07-18-2015, 03:59 PM
I have a 25 year old husky 55 still runs and cuts like the day I bought it been through a couple of chains, used it to saw my deck off my old house through the nails and screws, been hunting almost every year for that 25, and cuts firewood for the house every summer/fall all I have to do is buy the gas mix and chain oil.

Cant say anything bad about it takes a beating every year and keeps asking for more. Only problem I ever had with it was when I took it in for a "tune up" should never have done it cause it ran with no issues up to that point but had to go back for a "second" tune up cause the first guy set the RPMS too low and it wouldn't cut like crap, once it was reset was right back to cutting...

If I was to get another saw this one will have to kick the bucket in some way and it would probably be a pro series husky again but a few sizes bigger.

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc378/ultramafic/CAM00074_zpsugnzjqxy.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/ultramafic/media/CAM00074_zpsugnzjqxy.jpg.html)

mike XP are made my Husky. And are pro series.

Here is a good deal. Put a 18" bar on it.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?119010-wtt-2-year-old-stihl-461-magnum&p=1658391#post1658391

ruger#1
07-18-2015, 08:06 PM
I have 2 Stihls that I take along on all my hunting trips. (similarly take along 2 generators –Honda 2000 & Cummins Onan P1700) When you get spoiled it’s not worth taking a chance if one fails.
A MS170- bought 11 yearsago
A 025- bought 15 years or so ago.

They are both made in Germany. They have never let me down. The025 I use for bigger trees(both falling & cutting) & 170 for everything else. My hunting partner has used the same Husky for 25 years+ and swears by it.
We both take great care of our saws by proper storage, keeping them clean and always sharp.

STIHL SAWS- where made?
Check the First digit(After 1981) of the serial number
1=Germany
2=USA
3=Brazil
4=China
6=Various
9=Japan

The MS170 at work
http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s558/land51/fire_zps246ca21f.jpg

This is where the 025 comes to the rescue
http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s558/land51/028_zpstz4ic8mz.jpg

My god man. I need you up at the cabin. Lots of maple. And it has been sitting for a couple of years. Nothing like that beetle killed pine.

aggiehunter
07-19-2015, 07:57 AM
been chainsawing for a long time...was a husky guy..had stihls....but would not go back to those after having an Echo now.

sky-gunner
07-19-2015, 08:17 AM
Have a newer small 240 Husky it was not a good choice.When it gets hot it starts to bog not enough grunt basically a tree branch trimmer i have considered throwing it away.Nothing smaller than the Rancher series for me.

I have a 240e, and as long as the chain is kept sharp it has and will cut anything, maybe yours is a dud.

Buck
07-19-2015, 09:20 AM
I have a 240e, and as long as the chain is kept sharp it has and will cut anything, maybe yours is a dud.

Probably a dud .It cut fine the first year then the self oiler went. expensive repair.Then it would bog and die after 5 minutes till it cooled down then repeat. Took it in had it repaired.Bought the special carb tool and adjusted it runs ok but still lacking any grunt compared to an old 35 husky i have which is a much better cutting saw.I also have a pro series Husky which is dynamite.

adriaticum
07-19-2015, 10:23 AM
I don't think you can use a chainsaw for hunting and even if you could, by the time you get close your quarry, turn on the chainsaw they would be long gone.
But if you want a chainsaw for cutting wood I think Stihl and Husqvarna can't be beat.
Size of the blade is just about convenience.

ruger#1
07-19-2015, 10:27 AM
Size of the blade is just about convenience. A twenty " blade is wider. Bigger chips and less time cutting.

wideopenthrottle
07-19-2015, 01:50 PM
length of bar determines how many teeth are cutting at one time..more teeth cutting means more power required (all things equal)... you can get more cutting action per tooth by taking the rakers down more but always use a guide for the rakers or your saw will cut to one side or the other if unevenly filed down...I always take my rakers down with the guide then give them an extra 2 or 3 strokes each with the file (this is what gives you the big curls)...no problem taking the rakers down extra if you have a bigger saw with a small bar or if you are just cutting softer wood...be careful filing the rakers down extra if you have a big bar or a small saw as it will be hard on the clutch..i would file the rakers after 4-5 touch up sharpenings or if I am not getting good curls with a sharp saw

ruger#1
07-19-2015, 03:41 PM
I use the Stihl 2 N 1 file.

https://youtu.be/MsjJFG4zg4U

You can also get a 16" bar with wider teeth.

igojuone
07-19-2015, 03:43 PM
Had my MS170 Sthil for years, they are stil under $200 IIRC and worth every cent.

Picked one up at a yard sale for $100 hardly used, great saw.

igojuone
07-19-2015, 03:45 PM
Love my Echo CS-400!

Light. 2 pull start (maybe 3 after it sits all winter). Easy to maintain.

Modded the muffler and it rips like a 50.

What mods to muffler?

ryanonthevedder
07-19-2015, 07:35 PM
339xp Husky. With a ported muffler it can keep up with an 066 sthil. A really incredible little saw, but they re not cheap. If you have the bucks go for a tree topper's saw, they are the best power to weight and are built for a commercial application.... and are priced accordingly.

358mag
07-19-2015, 07:59 PM
been chainsawing for a long time...was a husky guy..had stihls....but would not go back to those after having an Echo now.
Here I thought you were always a "traditionalist" " type using a bow saw and axe:roll::roll::roll:

itsy bitsy xj
07-19-2015, 10:14 PM
QUOTE=coast 1;1659968]The small 50+ cc huskys are a tuff little saw that can bounce around on a quad or truck and not start breaking parts off do to the way they are made.i run a husky for a living they bounce off rock bluffs on a regular occourance you just hike back down there pick them up ad go back to work[/QUOTE]

Sounds safe!! lol chain saws dropping out of the sky...I just found the image of that really funny[

BCbillies
07-19-2015, 10:49 PM
I have a Husky 365 Spl that I bought used for a good price. Runs awesome. A bit bigger than necessary but I also use it for my Lewis winch where the extra power comes in handy.

My 365 Husky along with the 375 Ruger are a nice combo and never leave me wanting more!

ruger#1
07-20-2015, 01:23 AM
Here I thought you were always a "traditionalist" " type using a bow saw and axe:roll::roll::roll: I bet he is very good with a can saw.

aggiehunter
07-20-2015, 09:50 AM
not sure what a can saw is there rusty bed springs....358 I even drive a truck to my hunting spots.....got any spare dodge parts?

ruger#1
07-20-2015, 09:52 AM
It is a saw chain with two handles. Fits in a can. I cut ten inch logs with it. Pine. Might be all day on a maple. Fits in your pocket.

http://www.mec.ca/product/4008-560/supreme-pocket-chain-saw/

bcsteve
07-20-2015, 10:40 AM
My 365 Husky along with the 375 Ruger are a nice combo and never leave me wanting more!

How did you know I have a .375 Ruger!?! :shock:Creepy.......:razz:

Singleshotneeded
07-20-2015, 11:20 AM
There are only two saws worth owning, husky and stihl.

One caveat: Stihl saws from small to large are all good, the little cheap Husky saws made for box stores are garbage, but the regular sized Husky saws are all good. So, if you're in the market for a small tree pruning, campfire wood saw, then buy a Stihl. Mine's run great for years!

aggiehunter
07-20-2015, 01:00 PM
our local small engine expert relies on Chevron with techron...he swears it saves small engines...

ruger#1
07-20-2015, 04:34 PM
our local small engine expert relies on Chevron with techron...he swears it saves small engines... You have to get away from Ethanol. It is a solvent. http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=BC

BCbillies
07-20-2015, 04:44 PM
How did you know I have a .375 Ruger!?! :shock:Creepy.......:razz:

Obviously great minds think alike! ;) A guy hates to be underpowered . . . you got a hemi in your truck too?

ruger#1
07-20-2015, 05:06 PM
Obviously great minds think alike! ;) A guy hates to be underpowered . . . you got a hemi in your truck too?

Next thing you know. You guys will be dating. I herd they had a 375 Ruger on Broke Back Mountain.:shock:

bcsteve
07-20-2015, 05:24 PM
Obviously great minds think alike! ;) A guy hates to be underpowered . . . you got a hemi in your truck too?

You're right, I hate to be underpowered, that's why I have an Ecoboost in my F150!:)

Squire
07-20-2015, 05:26 PM
length of bar determines how many teeth are cutting at one time..more teeth cutting means more power required (all things equal)... you can get more cutting action per tooth by taking the rakers down more but always use a guide for the rakers or your saw will cut to one side or the other if unevenly filed down...I always take my rakers down with the guide then give them an extra 2 or 3 strokes each with the file (this is what gives you the big curls)...no problem taking the rakers down extra if you have a bigger saw with a small bar or if you are just cutting softer wood...be careful filing the rakers down extra if you have a big bar or a small saw as it will be hard on the clutch..i would file the rakers after 4-5 touch up sharpenings or if I am not getting good curls with a sharp saw

I just can't ignore posts that offer advice with the potential to cause serious harm. If you are a novice like a hunter or annual firewood cutter and not a career logger/faller it would be in your best interest to ignore this advice. (Of course if you did use a chainsaw for a living you would have already ignored it). Rakers extra low means high risk of kickback and if you've ever seen a saw-cut in human flesh you would try to avoid it happening to you. If the saw teeth are sharpened properly the rakers at guide depth produce optimum cutting without the extra hazard.

358mag
07-20-2015, 08:18 PM
not sure what a can saw is there rusty bed springs....358 I even drive a truck to my hunting spots.....got any spare dodge parts?

Jezz sure hope you have a permit to drive your Dodge from F-D ... sorry no spare parts left ....... water under the bridge for this old silver tip

Ryo
07-21-2015, 11:02 AM
You can often find old 009L's for around $100 used - good (albeit heavy compared to modern machines) compact saws for the odd fallen tree or a weekend's firewood.

wideopenthrottle
07-21-2015, 11:26 AM
I just can't ignore posts that offer advice with the potential to cause serious harm. If you are a novice like a hunter or annual firewood cutter and not a career logger/faller it would be in your best interest to ignore this advice. (Of course if you did use a chainsaw for a living you would have already ignored it). Rakers extra low means high risk of kickback and if you've ever seen a saw-cut in human flesh you would try to avoid it happening to you. If the saw teeth are sharpened properly the rakers at guide depth produce optimum cutting without the extra hazard.

not saying to take them way down and I will bow to your experience...I only cut for a few years professionally and with medium sized saws not the huge barred ones..my intent was to explain that the big curls are a result of raker depth more than saw sharpness or number of teeth/bar size ...I did say always use a guide....thanks for addressing the safety side of it (I only mentioned it was hard on the clutch but failed to mention the risk to the operator) ...p.s. you may want to tell the guy with the old saw without the brake not to use it and also never to use a chainsaw with out cutting pants/ear and eye protection also remind others around you to stay back at least 10 feet especially from behind...always ensure you have stable foot placement etc...to address some more safety issues

hare_assassin
07-21-2015, 11:52 AM
What mods to muffler?

Remove muffler. Use drill and/or other implements of destruction to ream the guts out of said muffler. Re-install muffler. Re-tune saw a bit rich with carb tune mod (gargle/burble) wide open under no load.

A bit louder, but it'll rip like a mo-fo after that. :D

Some people also remove the spark guard, but I only modded mine. Lot's of vids and forum posts on arborist.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRuYOO4W6FY

matt420
07-21-2015, 11:59 AM
love my sthil ms 170 16 iunch bar starts first or 2nd pull

ruger#1
07-21-2015, 12:41 PM
love my sthil ms 170 16 iunch bar starts first or 2nd pull Ya, Well my McCulloch Starts on the 21st pull, And some times 30. Try and beat that.

Squire
07-21-2015, 12:45 PM
not saying to take them way down and I will bow to your experience...I only cut for a few years professionally and with medium sized saws not the huge barred ones..my intent was to explain that the big curls are a result of raker depth more than saw sharpness or number of teeth/bar size ...I did say always use a guide....thanks for addressing the safety side of it (I only mentioned it was hard on the clutch but failed to mention the risk to the operator) ...p.s. you may want to tell the guy with the old saw without the brake not to use it and also never to use a chainsaw with out cutting pants/ear and eye protection also remind others around you to stay back at least 10 feet especially from behind...always ensure you have stable foot placement etc...to address some more safety issues

I wouldn't recommend anyone use a saw without a chain break either. Nothing personal but I felt compelled to warn others of the risks of filing the rakers lower than the recommended height.

Iron Glove
07-21-2015, 01:01 PM
Ya, Well my McCulloch Starts on the 21st pull, And some times 30. Try and beat that.

My first chain saw was a Canadian Tire special McCulloch.
It performed like a trooper for @ 5 or 6 years before I upgraded it to a Stihl and the McCulloch went to my Son who proceeded to beat the crap outta it.
Included a brief stint in the Princeton RCMP evidence locker ( don't ask ) and finally was retired in it's 10th year of very hard abuse.

wideopenthrottle
07-21-2015, 01:19 PM
I wouldn't recommend anyone use a saw without a chain break either. Nothing personal but I felt compelled to warn others of the risks of filing the rakers lower than the recommended height.

fair enough... better to be clear on risk/reward of doing anything cuz...as they say "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" ...

elch jager
07-21-2015, 02:47 PM
My first chain saw was a Canadian Tire special McCulloch.
It performed like a trooper for @ 5 or 6 years before I upgraded it to a Stihl and the McCulloch went to my Son who proceeded to beat the crap outta it.
Included a brief stint in the Princeton RCMP evidence locker ( don't ask ) and finally was retired in it's 10th year of very hard abuse.

Finally a mention for the old yellow peril! Yay! My dad ran one for decades without any issues at all.

Damn fine moose call as well... first order of business setting up camp was to run the mcculloch for a couple hours. We had a moose wander right into camp before the wall tent was half up one year... Mind you we were hunting the moose farm back then (Spruce Falls camp 95 in Northern Ontario)

I'd get one of those just for the nostalgia... Are the new ones any good? Seems like Husky owns them now?

ruger#1
07-21-2015, 02:50 PM
Finally a mention for the old yellow peril! Yay! My dad ran one for decades without any issues at all.

Damn fine moose call as well... first order of business setting up camp was to run the mcculloch for a couple hours. We had a moose wander right into camp before the wall tent was half up one year... Mind you we were hunting the moose farm back then (Spruce Falls camp 95 in Northern Ontario)

I'd get one of those just for the nostalgia... Are the new ones any good? Seems like Husky owns them now?

My father had one. It was funny watching him throw it at the garage door. Never seen him so angry.

Moose Guide
07-21-2015, 06:18 PM
If you are only going to buy brand new get a Dolmar....they invented the chainsaw, cheaper cause they dont advertise so you wont pay the marked up price of Husky and Stihl. Bought my 79cc for $850 with a 24" bar! Everyone that has ever tried my Dolmar, are impressed cause all they ever have run is stihl and husky, cause thats what all the stores carry, thats all any one knows, dollar for dollar you cant beat Dolmar. I have cut enough cords of wood to go through 4 chains already since 2008. zero problems.

http://www.dolmarpowerproducts.com/productcatalog/chain_saws_gasoline/index.html


Dolmar makes the Makita saws also, they are identical, just different colours!!!! Very weak pull cord/rewind set up, other than that not a bad saw!