New mobile radio protocols for BC

[adriaticum]

http://www.newsroom.gov.bc.ca/2015/05/new-mobile-radio-protocols-on-track-for-resource-roads-1.html

[Goose]

Good to know, thx!

[Vladimir Poutine]

Luckily for me I have a model that I can program.

[Dachande]

They will make the roads safer & will standardize channels accross the Province.

[Drillbit]

They will make the roads safer & will standardize channels accross the Province.

Safer?! LOL!


I noticed the new signs the other day rolling around.

One road just said the road channel was RR-30.

Didn't list a frequency like they used to so I thought that was pretty stupid, and in no way safer. I could have programmed the frequency in on the spot.


Is there a list of the frequencies for these standard channels so I can add them to my radios?


VHF radios will save you a lot of walking when you're out of cell service areas........

[butthead]

https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hth/engineering/documents/Road_Radio_Project/Maps/South%20Area/DOS_TOC_Resource_Road_Channel_Project_Final4.pdf?

[butthead]

Safer?! LOL!


I noticed the new signs the other day rolling around.

One road just said the road channel was RR-30.

Didn't list a frequency like they used to so I thought that was pretty stupid, and in no way safer. I could have programmed the frequency in on the spot.


Is there a list of the frequencies for these standard channels so I can add them to my radios?


VHF radios will save you a lot of walking when you're out of cell service areas........


https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hth/engineering/documents/Road_Radio_Project/Maps/South%20Area/DOS_TOC_Resource_Road_Channel_Project_Final4.pdf?

[Drillbit]

https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hth/engineering/documents/Road_Radio_Project/Maps/South%20Area/DOS_TOC_Resource_Road_Channel_Project_Final4.pdf?

Perfect, thanks!

[Dachande]

If you go to any radio shop they will have the standardized channels for the whole province. I was told that they didn't list the freq as they didn't want human error to factor in from someone entering the wrong freq in their radio.

[Daybreak]

Yes, that's what I was told. I keep in my truck, a list that details all the RR #'s and the names, areas and frequencies that are attached to them. Unless the RR # is posted on the road you can have a hard time figuring out which channel to be on. I have seen roads where the channel is just detailed by a company name. Hopefully people respect the new signage and leave it as posted.

[Drillbit]

If you go to any radio shop they will have the standardized channels for the whole province. I was told that they didn't list the freq as they didn't want human error to factor in from someone entering the wrong freq in their radio.

Not everybody uses the radio shops to program.


If they want standardized channels and everyone to be on them, you'd think they make the frequencies easy to find and posted on every road so there is no guessing or going without the right channels, you know, for safety.

There's always human error, even the human in the radio shop can make mistakes.

[landphil]

Here is a list of all 35 RR frequencies, and the 5 LD channels - loading channels - scroll to 2nd page.

https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hth/engineering/documents/Road_Radio_Project/RR_Notice_May_20_2014.pdf

And standardized calling protocol procedures:

https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hth/engineering/documents/Road_Radio_Project/Radio-Protocol-cards-June2010.pdf

Channel maps listed here:

https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hth/engineering/Road_Radio_Project.htm

[r106]

Just getting into the vhf stuff. Are these new RR channels the same freq for calling? Or +- 600hz

[landphil]

Just getting into the vhf stuff. Are these new RR channels the same freq for calling? Or +- 600hz

RX and TX frequencies are the same, and the RR channels are narrowband channels - check out the links in my last post and it gives the frequencies and calling procedures.

[happyhunter]

Yes, that's what I was told. I keep in my truck, a list that details all the RR #'s and the names, areas and frequencies that are attached to them. Unless the RR # is posted on the road you can have a hard time figuring out which channel to be on. I have seen roads where the channel is just detailed by a company name. Hopefully people respect the new signage and leave it as posted.

Mainlines all have RR channels. Some other roads might not and when that is the case use the company's channel which should be listed on the sign.

[Brew]

I really like the new system because I used to have a few banks of channels for different areas. Now I just have one bank of resourse channels and one bank for loading channels when working with contractors.

[Trapper]

there are lots of older radio's that can't be program with the new rr channels

[landphil]

there are lots of older radio's that can't be program with the new rr channels

Only because they are not narrowband compatible.

[dracb]

Just getting into the vhf stuff. Are these new RR channels the same freq for calling? Or +- 600hz

There are no offsets in the new resource road protocols. Transmit and receive on the same frequency for each road.

[RiverOtter]

I like the simplicity of the new system, though I don't buy into the safer part as narrow band doesn't have the distance capabilities of wide band; a definite concern in rocky mountainous terrain. Also, many radios owned by casual users aren't compatible with narrow band frequencies and the ones that are compatible still require a radio shop to do initial setup, as a channel designated wide band can't be face programmed to narrow, or vice versa. Once your radio is setup though, Bob's your uncle, as RR33 is universal now, regardless of who's TL your driving through.

I run a mix on my radios, with a few channels of narrow and wide left open for face programming, as well as the phone repeaters, local mill repeaters and BCFS repeaters added into the mix for emergencies.

[r106]

RX and TX frequencies are the same, and the RR channels are narrowband channels - check out the links in my last post and it gives the frequencies and calling procedures.


There are no offsets in the new resource road protocols. Transmit and receive on the same frequency for each road.

Thanks....