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jammer17
04-21-2015, 12:11 PM
Hey guys was looking for some Input. Hoping to get some moose hunt in this year. Would be my first time was wondering if a 308 with 180 grain would take a moose down. Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

The Dawg
04-21-2015, 12:13 PM
Absolutely it will.

325
04-21-2015, 12:16 PM
Not a chance. The bullet will likely just barely penetrate the skin, and the moose will become enraged. Only a magnum can kill a moose

835
04-21-2015, 12:17 PM
Are you kidding me??? a 308 your nuts! lol

you will be fine, burry one in the lungs and it will die!

gutpile
04-21-2015, 12:18 PM
Not a chance. The bullet will likely just barely penetrate the skin, and the moose will become enraged. Only a magnum can kill a moose
X2 on that !

coach
04-21-2015, 12:21 PM
Not a chance. The bullet will likely just barely penetrate the skin, and the moose will become enraged. Only a magnum can kill a moose

Abwolutley! Listen to 325, he knows what he's talking about. Don't let the Dawg and 835 yank your chain and have you wind up putting yourself in a dangerous situation. Moose are tough beasts!

smallfry14
04-21-2015, 12:23 PM
I watched a video a while ago of a kid making a clean kill on an elk with a .243..shot placement is key, whether it's a .308 or .338

The Dawg
04-21-2015, 12:24 PM
Abwolutley! Listen to 325, he knows what he's talking about. Don't let the Dawg and 835 yank your chain and have you wind up putting yourself in a dangerous situation. Moose are tough beasts!


Imagine the youtube vid though?

835
04-21-2015, 12:26 PM
Shot placement is key,,,, but .. if you put a 338 210 TTSX on a moose shoulder it will brake it and kill the moose,,,, if you do the same with a 308 on a big bull it can pancake on the shoulder with little effect.
Circa 1975 and a cranker bull.... Savage 99m in .284 .... 7 rounds on shoulder moose still standing....

yes shot palcement is key, but a 338 gives you more places......

Heffernan89
04-21-2015, 12:26 PM
308 is fine dropped a few moose with it....

Big Hoss
04-21-2015, 12:39 PM
308 was all my grandfather and uncle ever moose hunted with and never had a problem. Some guys are just in love with there magnums

boxhitch
04-21-2015, 12:41 PM
I watched a video a while ago of a kid making a clean kill on an elk with a .243..shot placement is key, whether it's a .308 or .338Pphhhttt , just an elk ?
nothing compared to a Canadian Moose
.308 caliber is a good one , just make sure it has magnum power behind it

Eastbranch
04-21-2015, 01:01 PM
Shot placement is key,,,, but .. if you put a 338 210 TTSX on a moose shoulder it will brake it and kill the moose,,,, if you do the same with a 308 on a big bull it can pancake on the shoulder with little effect.
Circa 1975 and a cranker bull.... Savage 99m in .284 .... 7 rounds on shoulder moose still standing....

yes shot palcement is key, but a 338 gives you more places......
Funny, I broke shoulder and exited with a 130gr ttsx from a 300 savage. Don't think a TTSX is going to pancake on anything lol.

325
04-21-2015, 01:03 PM
I shot this bull at 380 yards with my 308 using 150 grain TTSX bullets.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc215/goatcamp/P1010472.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/goatcamp/media/P1010472.jpg.html)

ratherbefishin
04-21-2015, 01:05 PM
Well everyone knows the 303 British(bubba' ones too) isn't adequate to kill a moose.....everyone except thousands of moose that is..

todbartell
04-21-2015, 01:19 PM
Yes it will work fine. If you go with a premium bullet you can drop down to 165gr or even 150gr and not sacrifice any performance on impact. I'd guess that 80% of moose shot in BC every year are put down by either a 308, 30-06, 303 British or 300 Mag loaded with 180gr bullets

emerson
04-21-2015, 01:57 PM
Yes it will work fine. If you go with a premium bullet you can drop down to 165gr or even 150gr and not sacrifice any performance on impact. I'd guess that 80% of moose shot in BC every year are put down by either a 308, 30-06, 303 British or 300 Mag loaded with 180gr bullets
Like he said. Bullet construction is key, heavy weight less so.

jammer17
04-21-2015, 02:46 PM
Thanks for all the advice fellas. Thanks for the picture 325. Getting excited now.BOOM!

835
04-21-2015, 04:08 PM
Funny, I broke shoulder and exited with a 130gr ttsx from a 300 savage. Don't think a TTSX is going to pancake on anything lol.


go re read what i typed.....
Granted it isnt worded well..... i was meaning a 308 with old crap bullets... a 308 loaded with cheap lead hitting a 50" bulls shoulder blade isnt going to have a good chance.... a 210 TTSX from a 338 will go through

todbartell
04-21-2015, 04:13 PM
go re read what i typed.....

I did a few times. Maybe shooting a moose seven times in the vitals is not a cartridge issue, but a bullet problem. I've seen moose dropped with a 7-08 & 120gr, but the bullet performed and did the job as well as any cartridge could. And, although not a moose, I seen the effects of a 308 Win/150gr Accubond planted right into some big bone of a bull elk at near muzzle velocity, and it worked great. Penetrated a couple feet after hitting the shoulder

This original poster/topic should be more about WHICH BULLETS to choose/avoid, for his 308 for moose, not whether the cartridge itself is suitable. On a side note, most vanilla soft points perform reliably at 308 speeds, especially 180's.

835
04-21-2015, 04:19 PM
Forget it...

i can argue for days here but people will always nit pic every bloody word....

.284 Win with Silvertips did not go through the F ing mooses shoulder 7 f in times...... yes if one was shot 10 inches further back it would have gone into the lungs and killed the moose... but the guy shooting the bloody thing thought the bullet should be able to go through the shoulder.... in 1975 there was no TTSX....

i first said the 308 is fine.... i then comented on Dudes
"I watched a video a while ago of a kid making a clean kill on an elk with a .243..shot placement is key, whether it's a .308 or .338"

to reiterate that a 338 is better.. due to the above reasoning.....

dakoda62
04-21-2015, 04:26 PM
Lung him he won't go far. My hunting partner has used a 308 for years, never lost a moose, no more than 2 shot's. Myself i use a 7mm Mag.

Fisher-Dude
04-21-2015, 04:30 PM
We lived on moose meat as kids. All were killed with a 308 shooting 180 grain CoreLokts. Never had any problem with bullet performance, either.

landphil
04-21-2015, 04:32 PM
I've seen with my own eyes a very dead bull moose that was taken with a lung shot from a .243, 100 yds, didn't take a single step. I'm getting the impression that those Island moose are tougher though.:-)

Boner
04-21-2015, 04:33 PM
The only bull moose I ever had trouble with (out of 2 handfuls) was with a 300 win mag shooting factory swift a frames. There was no rhyme nor reason for the difficulty looking at where the bullets penetrated. Some moose just like standing up I guess. That took 4 bullets to drop.
Looking back, four of moose were harvested with 308. One with a factory federal blue box 150, one with a factory federal blue box 180 grain and two with factory hornady 180 grain sst's or whatever they are called. The others were with a 300 wsm, 30-06 and 300 RUM. All were one shot to lay down.

todbartell
04-21-2015, 04:35 PM
Forget it...

didn't mean to upset you.

835
04-21-2015, 04:40 PM
Bit of a pansy today... Work was bull lol

835
04-21-2015, 04:43 PM
I have seen with my very two eyes lost moose with that very 243.
There is a lot more to recommending a cartridge then assuming everyone can hit a moose.

todbartell
04-21-2015, 04:48 PM
.243" 100gr Nosler Partition =

https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/58375_431923632991_7489400_n.jpg?oh=50f4116a2a0fdc 8c07d237102fc42ba6&oe=55DAD74B

ratherbefishin
04-21-2015, 04:51 PM
Way back when I was young and foolish I was telling Joe Gibault I needed to get a bigger gun than my 65x55 swede because I was going moose hunting....Joe suggested that all I needed to do was put one 140 gr 6.5 bullet from my swede just behind the shoulder, sit down for 20 minutes ,half an hour ,then walk up and start gutting my moose which would probably be about 50 yards from where I hit him....Joe told me my little 65x55 swede with 140 gr bullets was one of the most efficient and lethal combinations you could get for any animal,as long as I held it straight...

landphil
04-21-2015, 04:54 PM
I have seen with my very two eyes lost moose with that very 243.
There is a lot more to recommending a cartridge then assuming everyone can hit a moose.

Well, I certainly wouldn't recommend a .243 as a first choice either, but my point was it works in the right circumstances. I also agree with you that a .338 WM with TTSXs like you prefer would expand those circumstances, nothing wrong with that, but it's also a bit like pulling a 1500 lb utility trailer with a one ton dually. That said, a .308 with good bullets will work well too, within appropriate range and shot placement.

LYKTOHUNT
04-21-2015, 05:19 PM
Shot my first moose with a 308 and a few after, they all came home in smaller pieces and went directly into the freezer, well maybe after getting dressed up in some brown paper

markt308
04-21-2015, 05:31 PM
308 will totally do it! Right behind the shoulder man

todbartell
04-21-2015, 05:33 PM
308 will totally do it! Right behind the shoulder man


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RazGeSe0VOc

Ltbullken
04-21-2015, 05:38 PM
I dropped 2 moose with a 308 using 165 grain Sierra bullets. They were both lung shots and they barely took 4 or 5 steps before faltering.

Ltbullken
04-21-2015, 05:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RazGeSe0VOc

Enough said...

mikek blacktail
04-21-2015, 05:52 PM
silly question

smallfry14
04-21-2015, 06:37 PM
Forget it...

i can argue for days here but people will always nit pic every bloody word....

.284 Win with Silvertips did not go through the F ing mooses shoulder 7 f in times...... yes if one was shot 10 inches further back it would have gone into the lungs and killed the moose... but the guy shooting the bloody thing thought the bullet should be able to go through the shoulder.... in 1975 there was no TTSX....

i first said the 308 is fine.... i then comented on Dudes
"I watched a video a while ago of a kid making a clean kill on an elk with a .243..shot placement is key, whether it's a .308 or .338"

to reiterate that a 338 is better.. due to the above reasoning.....

Yep, of course a bigger rifle would give you more room for error, I was just making a point that a .308 will do the trick as long as you shoot straight..if you blast em in the ass I don't think it makes much of a difference

Eastbranch
04-21-2015, 07:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RazGeSe0VOc

That guy has some great videos.

Bubba123
04-21-2015, 08:04 PM
Way back when I was young and foolish I was telling Joe Gibault I needed to get a bigger gun than my 65x55 swede because I was going moose hunting....Joe suggested that all I needed to do was put one 140 gr 6.5 bullet from my swede just behind the shoulder, sit down for 20 minutes ,half an hour ,then walk up and start gutting my moose which would probably be about 50 yards from where I hit him....Joe told me my little 65x55 swede with 140 gr bullets was one of the most efficient and lethal combinations you could get for any animal,as long as I held it straight...

^^^This. Many a moose taken in Sweden with the 6.5 x 55. Plenty of oomph, less recoil to deal with than magnum rounds, and deadly accurate as long as you do your part.

LYKTOHUNT
04-21-2015, 08:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RazGeSe0VOc
I dont think this is possible,its a fake, you cant shoot moose while wearing runnin shoes , no camo, blue jeans, a noisy coat and a goofy hat

HarryToolips
04-21-2015, 08:34 PM
308 will be just fine as long as you do your job with good shot placement..many of these guys have magnums to compensate for their very small weeeinerz along with their big jAcked up Ferds :mrgreen:

Big Hoss
04-21-2015, 08:51 PM
^^ roflmao

Ohwildwon
04-21-2015, 11:20 PM
Love these old pics!
Thanks for posting...:-)
Still have that ole Weatherby?

Good Old Outdoors
04-21-2015, 11:26 PM
I would shoot a moose with a 308 as long as it's within 150 - 200 yards, beyond that I would rather have a my 300 wsm

mooze
04-22-2015, 12:11 AM
yes, 308 bullets go down into them stomach, the moose spits them out and then stomps you into the swamp! nothing under 45 cal!

landphil
04-22-2015, 06:15 AM
^^^ Right, that's why the .50 BigMooseGun was invented.:lol:

boblly1
04-22-2015, 06:34 AM
my cousins were resident moose hunters lived in Prince George all their lives never owned anything bigger used 303 lee enfields 300 savages 308 browning lever actions mostly used 180 grain factory loads to boot

Mik
04-22-2015, 06:46 AM
Shot a few with my 308, Savage model 99c ... And I do have a .338 for sale ��

two-feet
04-22-2015, 07:18 AM
Shot a few with my 308, Savage model 99c ... And I do have a .338 for sale ��

I have taken a 1/2 dozen moose with my model99 .308

I always recommend the caliber to new hunters. Low recoil, cheap ammo, sufficient power.

835
04-22-2015, 08:10 AM
Yep, of course a bigger rifle would give you more room for error, I was just making a point that a .308 will do the trick as long as you shoot straight..if you blast em in the ass I don't think it makes much of a difference


that is what i was tryin to say as well, but my wording sucked a bit....... Dad hunted a 308 for his first bunch of years moose hunting,,, Uncle Had a .284 which was handed down to me at 14.... I shot my 270 For 20 years and killed lots of moose with Cheap bullets, expensive bullets and hand rolled by me.... i do have a 338RUM but my wife bought that for me for my birthday when i told her i always wanted a 338 win...

todbartell
04-22-2015, 10:16 AM
220gr in a 308 for moose?

Boner
04-22-2015, 12:26 PM
220gr in a 308 for moose?

I would consider it with a 1:10 twist. Maybe run a few past the chrony. Otherwise not.

wideopenthrottle
04-22-2015, 12:31 PM
Forget it...

i can argue for days here but people will always nit pic every bloody word....

.284 Win with Silvertips did not go through the F ing mooses shoulder 7 f in times...... yes if one was shot 10 inches further back it would have gone into the lungs and killed the moose... but the guy shooting the bloody thing thought the bullet should be able to go through the shoulder.... in 1975 there was no TTSX....

i first said the 308 is fine.... i then comented on Dudes
"I watched a video a while ago of a kid making a clean kill on an elk with a .243..shot placement is key, whether it's a .308 or .338"

to reiterate that a 338 is better.. due to the above reasoning.....

moose at 70 yards ...30-06 with a silvertip (thought it was 180 but maybe 165 gr)...bullet was stopped by a moose rib..broke the rib and pushed it back a bit allowing the fragments to spray left and right with no entry into the vitals...moose did not move...2nd salvo was from two peeps at the same time in the neck area ...moose still standing 4th bullet between the eyes and it finally dropped..it will be nozler partitions for moose from here on in for me...
To all you first shot every time shooters: I say if it aint on the ground keep shooting....I always go boiler room neck then head if I need a 3rd shoot....also seen an elk get up with 2 30-06 (150 gr ) we lucked out while hunting whitetail does, to have a 6x6 walk up....this was from 50 yards...
wide

todbartell
04-22-2015, 02:18 PM
I would consider it with a 1:10 twist. Maybe run a few past the chrony. Otherwise not.

2300'ish FPS, be fine if all shots were within 200 yards. You just don't need that heavy of a bullet to get deep penetration these days

http://www.shootingtimes.com/files/2010/09/st_barnesttsx_201003-a.jpg

Gateholio
04-22-2015, 05:43 PM
130gr TTSX will outpenetrate a 200gr cup and core bullet, and not sacrifice so much trajectory.

BRrooster
04-22-2015, 06:39 PM
I was told to.."don't shoot them on the downhill side of the road , and put it behind the shoulder thru the lungs. " Iron deer syndrome gets a lot of hunters. They think anything that they shoot has to drop immediately. Hence , shoulder shooting and bone crunching. There's lots of good burger in the front shoulders. All in all, it totally depends on the situation and also what caliber that you can shoot well. If you have to close your eyes and flinch like a bear crapping peach pits every time you pull the trigger, good luck with that. Every hunter I know never lost an animal that they hit well. Last moose I shot was with a .308 at under a hundred yards. Hopped twice , then stood for a bit till he figured out he should fall down. 165g handload. Under a miniute to shoot , and four hours to get to the truck.

Boner
04-22-2015, 09:26 PM
130gr TTSX will outpenetrate a 200gr cup and core bullet, and not sacrifice so much trajectory.

Ill try not to derail this thread but my dad and I were just talking about what's better for deer using his 35 Whelen. A 200 grain fast bullet or a 250 grain slow bullet. No joke, he really likes the gun.

guest
04-22-2015, 09:49 PM
Shot plenty of moose with 308 hand loaded with 165 partition noslers, I would NEVER hesitate recommending it either. Very under rated cartridge ....... Almost the same as a 30/06 but many won't admit that.

Punch em em through the lungs and enjoy your eats !

325
04-22-2015, 09:52 PM
Shot plenty of moose with 308 hand loaded with 165 partition noslers, I would NEVER hesitate recommending it either. Very under rated cartridge ....... Almost the same as a 30/06 but many won't admit that.

Punch em em through the lungs and enjoy your eats !

yep. On average only 3% slower than the 30-06 while burning 12% less powder