Kamloops news. RCMP/Hunter

[Firstblood]

http://www.cfjctv.com/story.php?id=21704

saw this one the news this today thought id share.
I know the hysteria surrounding guns right now is running pretty high in light of recent events but this is ridiculous. whoever decided to call the police needs to get their mind checked out.
but we all want to know who was it haha, so fess up. makes for a good story.

[lovemywinchester]

The hunter and his brother were probably going to Chase. Heard there is a mammoth buck living out there.

[mike-juliet]

Well, I guess I should second Guess my Halloween costume choice.

[Jagermeister]

It was probably the camo that triggered the alarm.

[Jagermeister]

Well, I guess I should second Guess my Halloween costume choice.
You could dress in an old mackinaw, black wool pants and one of those old plaid caps with the big ear flaps.

[Edzzed]

This is from http://www.kicker.ca/ I always find the crime briefs to be interesting.
Aug 15 at 6:30 pm, Chase
RCMP responded to a report
of a male pointing a firearm at
a couple of people at the historic
Flume Trail at Adams
Lake. The witnesses involved
told police that they had
planned to go fishing. When
they pulled into the parking
lot, there was a man leaning
against a vehicle yelling frantically
and asking who they
were and telling them to get
out. He was holding a firearm
described by the witnesses as a
black long barrel rifle with a
scope which also had a bi-pod
attached. The perpetrator advanced
towards the witnesses
while grabbing bullets from
his shirt pocket and loading
the gun. The terrified victims
fled the scene as fast as possible
and called police.
The suspect is described
as Caucasian, 6 ft. tall, approximately
230 pounds, 50 to
60 years of age with brown/
gray hair. The suspect vehicle
is a red /maroon Chevrolet
Impala.
When police arrived at the
scene, the suspect and vehicle
were gone. Chase RCMP ask
the public to be cautious if you
see this suspect and/or vehicle
and to call police if you have
any information.

[Kami]

Wondering when someone may call the police on me. Loading my firearm into my Sidekick at 5am going hunting. Wearing my camo.

[pville]

ive heard of a few hunters having this issue in the last couple years. I try to have my gun in a case whenever I transport just incase. Wouldn't make for a good morning being shook down by the cops

[Quince]

Unfortunately the rcmp's response tactics to any firearms related call wont change and some guy waiting for his brother to pick him will get shot at some point by hyped up cops. Yes i know cops have a sh*tty job sometimes but overreaction is happening all the time...

[skibum]

Unfortunately the rcmp's response tactics to any firearms related call wont change

And they shouldn't. If I was a cop, I sure wouldn't want to be taking my guard down for call of a guy with a rifle. They don't get specifics over the radio to mitigate the situation. From the story this dude was on the street with his gun. We know the gun laws -- you are not allowed to do that.

[and I don't know the full story -- if the gun was in a case or not -- or why he had to be standing on a corner with it to begin with instead of his driveway]

Some of the firearm laws are stupid, but you have to use your head.

[finngun]

skibum===We know the gun laws -- you are not allowed to do that.///to do what:confused: who know the gun laws? camo costume does'nt make any diff..

[finngun]

Transportation

Firearms left unattended in a car must be locked in the trunk or in a similar lockable compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk or compartment, the firearm must be placed out of sight inside the vehicle and the vehicle must be locked (same rules apply for transport of replica firearms)
Non-restricted firearms must be: transported unloaded -----SO LEGALLY YOU CAN WALK on the street gun at you back[no need case] unloaded..i don't say it is wise thing to do so..might cause hysteria..:confused:

[Bugle M In]

considering recent events, I'm going with the RCMP on this...they sort of have to follow up...don't you guys think??
The hunter could of left his gun in the house or his car while waiting to be picked up.
If that hunter had been dropped off and was standing there for a while waiting for the next ride to pick him up, possibly that hunter could have given it some more thought
how exposed the rifle would be while waiting and what alarm bells might be set off.
Regardless how some feel RC's over react etc....they still have to look into it.
There were a few guys running in some camo gear and guns not to long ago...who were shooting at others...regardless of the initial reasons.
The person who called it in may need to think a little harder 1st to what they are seeing...but once RC is called...they don't have a choice...
The hunter may want to rethink what he has out in the open when standing in a rural part of a street with a rifle exposed...no????
Last event in Ottawa....not so funny!
Just like some people shouldn't posses a drivers license, I a have seen a few hunters of the years that make me think they shouldn't have a licence or a gun either.
I'm not going to beat the RC's up on this one at all.
Not in this case, surely.

[J_T]

And they shouldn't. If I was a cop, I sure wouldn't want to be taking my guard down for call of a guy with a rifle. They don't get specifics over the radio to mitigate the situation. From the story this dude was on the street with his gun. We know the gun laws -- you are not allowed to do that.

[and I don't know the full story -- if the gun was in a case or not -- or why he had to be standing on a corner with it to begin with instead of his driveway]

Some of the firearm laws are stupid, but you have to use your head.Correct me if im wrong but I've always understood with correct licencing in place I could walk down main street with a rifle. In my hand or over the shoulder. Not advisable. But completely legal. My point is, I wouldnt want to be conceding to laws that dont exist. I'm not questioning RCMP action in this case.

[finngun]

Bugle M In (http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/member.php?12094-Bugle-M-In)
http://huntingbc.ca/forum/images/shades_of_green/statusicon/user-offline.pngI'm not going to beat the RC's up on this one at all.////neither do i..but law is law,,,why don't go by that?
more we keep legal guns hidden..deeper we have to hide them...why nobody is educating --no gun people..what is illegal,,and what is not? like some hours at the highschools...gun educating..some aux RCMP can du that maybe:-D

[limit time]

And they shouldn't. If I was a cop, I sure wouldn't want to be taking my guard down for call of a guy with a rifle. They don't get specifics over the radio to mitigate the situation. From the story this dude was on the street with his gun. We know the gun laws -- you are not allowed to do that.

[and I don't know the full story -- if the gun was in a case or not -- or why he had to be standing on a corner with it to begin with instead of his driveway]

Some of the firearm laws are stupid, but you have to use your head.
Sorry skibum but you are wrong. Show me the law and I will say sorry.

[burger]

considering recent events, I'm going with the RCMP on this...they sort of have to follow up...don't you guys think??
The hunter could of left his gun in the house or his car while waiting to be picked up.
If that hunter had been dropped off and was standing there for a while waiting for the next ride to pick him up, possibly that hunter could have given it some more thought
how exposed the rifle would be while waiting and what alarm bells might be set off.
Regardless how some feel RC's over react etc....they still have to look into it.
There were a few guys running in some camo gear and guns not to long ago...who were shooting at others...regardless of the initial reasons.
The person who called it in may need to think a little harder 1st to what they are seeing...but once RC is called...they don't have a choice...
The hunter may want to rethink what he has out in the open when standing in a rural part of a street with a rifle exposed...no????
Last event in Ottawa....not so funny!
Just like some people shouldn't posses a drivers license, I a have seen a few hunters of the years that make me think they shouldn't have a licence or a gun either.
I'm not going to beat the RC's up on this one at all.
Not in this case, surely.

I get you Bugle but here is a great example of why we are slowly being squeezed out of our abilities to possess firearms. Why do I or anyone else need to worry about how I,m presenting my firearm. Why if I'm legally allowed do I need to worry about how it looks. Education is the answer. He's legal end of story. D

The issues that happened in Ottawa are far from this and the media has tainted you and most others. This is not news worthy!!!

[Viper]

In light of recent events I have been extra cautious when going hunting. I case my rifle and put it in the back of the truck until I get into the hunting area. I guess my main concern is someone reporting a man with a gun in the front seat at the Tim Horton's drive through. Police respond on high alert due to what has happened. They have no idea what to expect. You get stopped at gunpoint and if you scratch your nose you could be killed. Not saying anything bad about RCs just that a young snot nosed kid fresh out of Regina with a major rush of adrenaline could make a mistake that would cost you your life. In fairness to all law enforcement we should try to me more conscious of this when transporting firearms or walking around in public with a rifle slung over your shoulder. Yes it is legal but is it being a responsible gun owner?

[Cookie1965]

I don't expect non hunters and non gun owners to know the intricacies of all the gun related laws, just as I don't know the laws about things that don't pertain to me. I can understand how someone might be concerned by seeing a man with a gun on the street and call 9-11. Sounds like the police attended and handled the situation just fine. The hunter probably should have kept his rifle cased, regardless of "legal" IMO

[M.Dean]

In this day and age, I think it's better to call in someone with a weapon, dressed in camo, standing on the side of the road. It'd be better to have the Police handle the guy if he was going to go door to door shooting folks! Up here it's quite common to see Girls and Guys walking or riding Quads with Rifles, hell most of us take our Quads to the store, before it burnt down mind you, with our Rifles either on the front rack, in a boot, or on your back, no one seems to mind too much!

[finngun]

In this day and age, I think it's better to call in someone with a weapon, dressed in camo, standing on the side of the road. It'd be better to have the Police handle the guy if he was going to go door to door shooting folks! Up here it's quite common to see Girls and Guys walking or riding Quads with Rifles, hell most of us take our Quads to the store, before it burnt down mind you, with our Rifles either on the front rack, in a boot, or on your back, no one seems to mind too much!

why..if it is rural area and nobody is pointing gun anywhere...maybe another hunter just waiting for his puddys ride..why give bad name for hunters..
makes me wonder whose are gunowners worst enemies....another hunter,,or what???

[Gateholio]

I won't hide my guns. If some bedwetter calls the cops, so be it.

[solo]

I won't hide my guns. If some bedwetter calls the cops, so be it.

Amen. And after they leave I would still just be standing there with my rifle.

[Bugle M In]

I won't hide my guns. If some bedwetter calls the cops, so be it.

understood....but I think I would rather wait for my ride then look at a bunch of barrels pointed at me with a swat team all over the place????....no??

[ajeatoo]

A similar situation happened to us not long ago, parked well off the road everyone got out and put packs on and slung guns over the back and started walking into the woods... Tourists headed to Whistler called the cops saying they'd seen men with rifles on the highway, which triggered several ramp vehicles attending, they walked in found the guys and immediately figured out the situation thank goodness. Asked for licenses etc and then sent us on our way wishing luck in the hunt!!
I appreciate the rcmp coming out immediately in these situations, and also really appreciate it when the rcmp members are equally versed in local hunting to realize what is actually happening quickly instead of believing city tourists on their way to Whistler for a spa weekend. HA HA HA!!

[M.Dean]

why..if it is rural area and nobody is pointing gun anywhere...maybe another hunter just waiting for his puddys ride..why give bad name for hunters..
makes me wonder whose are gunowners worst enemies....another hunter,,or what??? I'd like to know how you can tell the difference from a Law abiding Hunter waiting for his Brother, Mother, or maybe his Pastor to pick him up to go hunting for the day and a crazed killer, ripped on meth standing on the same street waiting to start shooting kids as they get on a School Buss??? If the guy is a honest Hunter, it'll take the Police a few minutes to check him out, if it's the guy ripped on meth waiting for the School Buss, maybe the same Police can shoot him dead before he get's a chance to go on his drug fueled killing spree? Sounds like a real easy call to make to me???

[boxhitch]

In this day and age, I think it's better to call in someone with a weapon, dressed in camo, standing on the side of the road. It'd be better to have the Police handle the guy if he was going to go door to door shooting folks! Up here it's quite common to see Girls and Guys walking or riding Quads with Rifles, hell most of us take our Quads to the store, before it burnt down mind you, with our Rifles either on the front rack, in a boot, or on your back, no one seems to mind too much!So on one hand you are saying to call the cops , and the other that you see it going on all the time.


It'd be better to have the Police handle the guy if .....That little IF is a meaningful word. How many IF's do we expect cops to answer to ? How about the guy siting in his car outside a school ? How about the van-loads full of Indi farm workers ? I don't like where that is going.


Sounds like a real easy call to make to methey responded with a canine unit and a helicopter . We need that for any potential threat ? You don't enjoy your freedom , do you ?

[boxhitch]

And we can't blame the RC's for their response , they have a standard operating procedure handed down from above , the same Chiefs that are still pushing gun controls and prohibitions

[M.Dean]

" That little "If" is a meaningful word"! Exactly my point, Sir!!!

[boxhitch]

But we are looking at it from opposite sides. I say call if there is a problem , you say call if there is any possibility or perception of one. I don't want such a militant society

[finngun]

But we are looking at it from opposite sides. I say call if there is a problem:wink: , you say call if there is any possibility or perception of one. I don't want such a militant society
I agree 100per, cent
Thats the way,, to do it right..f g:-D